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MONDAY AM 4TH UPDATE: 20th Century Fox keeps refining its figures to show James Cameron’s Avatar actuals were better than expected — Friday: $26,752,099, Saturday: $25,529,036, Sunday: $24,744,346. Grosses dropped only -3% from Saturday to Sunday and finished the weekend with an opening number of $77.025481 million (not $77.3M or $76.8M or $73M as the studio previously reported). That placed second to 2D I Am Legend‘s $77.2M record for best December debut ever at the domestic box office. Internationally, the epic surisingly shot up +3% from Saturday to Sunday for $165.5M (not $159.2M) in 106 countries. That’s a $242.5M worldwide bow, including total 3D gross of $54,754,983, which Fox calls the “highest original content (non-sequel, non-franchise) opening weekend ever”.
The big budget 3D technopic was the widest 3D release to date: 2,023 3D runs of 3,452 North American theaters. At the 178 domestic IMAX theaters, a record breaking $9.5M was made. IMAX globally had to add shows to keep up with demand. Overseas, 58 Imax venues grossed $4.1M. The worldwide IMAX total of $13.6M bettered Transformers 2‘s previous record of $11.3M this summer.
SUNDAY AM: 20th Century Fox just said its big budget 3D technopic Avatar grossed $159.18M internationally from 106 territories (the six territories that have not opened are Japan, China, Italy, Poland, Argentina, and Uruguay). With North America’s snow-slowed grosses of $73M, that’s a worldwide total of $232.18M which the studio says is the “highest original content (non-sequel, non-franchise) opening weekend ever”.
Even with depressed U.S. grosses because of massive snowstorms in New York, Philadelphia, and Washington DC, Avatar finished Saturday only -5% down from Friday. That puts the technopic at $27M Friday and $25.6M for Saturday. With $20M estimated for Sunday, it’s officially a $73M pre-Xmas domestic opening weekend.
It’s the best-ever debut for director James Cameron, best-ever opening for a 3D movie with IMAX shattering their records and selling out every seat and adding shows to keep up with demand. It’s also the 2nd best December debut of all time because of Avatar‘s 3D ticket price premium compared to 2D films. (No. 1 is still 2007′s I Am Legend at $77,211,321, and No. 3 is now 2003′s The Lord Of The Rings: The Return Of The King at $72,629,713.) I’m told that 59% of 3D locations accounted for 71% of total business. The pic received a Cinemascore of “A” across every qudrant. In terms of audience demos, exit polling showed 57% male/43% female, and 38% under age 25/62% over age 25.
Avatar is playing in 3,542 total theaters in North America with 3D presentations at 2,038 sites accounting for almost 60% of the grosses. (Those 2,038 3D locations break down into 3,129 3D screens and 179 all 3D IMAX.) “Can’t wait for the East Coast snow to clear,” one upbeat Fox exec tells me about studio hopes for the tentpole to have legs because of “the tremendous word of mouth”.
Overseas, it’s playing in 17,222 screens (including a total 3D/3D Imax screens of 5,360, and a total IMAX 3D screens of 81). Fox just announced Avatar made a whopping $159.18 internationally for a worldwide weekend total of $232.1 million – more than 2012‘s hefty $225M 5-day debut number because of Avatar‘s higher 3D ticket prices.
Remember, this is the biggest 3D release in movie history, spurred by the excitement surrounding Cameron’s creation of the Fusion Camera System technology for photo-realistic computer-generated characters through motion capture animation. He wrote the script for Avatar back in the mid-1990s when he and Stan Winston co-founded Digital Domain. But when he took the screenplay to their special effects lab, Cameron was told it was just not possible to make the film with the current technology. So he sat on the project for more than a decade until there could be “several thousand 3-D screens” capable of showing the film.
All of Saturday’s pics were slammed by the snow. Disney’s holdover The Princess And The Frog placed No. 2 with a $12.2M weekend, or -49.5% from a week ago. Alcon Entertainment’s and Warner Bros’ The Blind Side finished No. 3 with $10.3M and closing in on $200M cume by still showing incredible legs at the start of its 5th week in release. Meanwhile, Sony Pictures is relieved that all the focus on Avatar this weekend meant it won’t attract much attention for the underperforming debut of Did You Hear About The Morgans? Starring Sarah Jessica Parker and Hugh Grant in what Rotten Tomatoes scored only 10% positive reviews — i.e. it’s unwatchable – the so-called comedy was lucky to open to $7M this weekend (not the $10M even the studio hoped for). It opened in 4th place Friday with just $2.5M from 2,758 runs and +5% for $2.6M Saturday. “Not what we wanted, but it will hang in throughout the holidays,” a too-optimistic Sony exec told me.
Here’s the Top 10:
1. Avatar (Fox) NEW [3,452 runs] Fri $27M
, Sat $25.6M, Wkd $73M
2. Princess And The Frog (Disney) Week 2 [3,475] Wkd $12.2M (-49.5%), Cume $44.7M
3. The Blind Side (Warner Bros) Week 5 [3,407] Wkd $10.3M, Cume $164.7M
4. The Morgans? (Sony) NEW [2,718] Fri $2.3M, Sat $2.4M, Wkd $7M
5. New Moon (Summit) Week 5 [3,035] Wkd $4.4M, Cume $274.6M
6. Invictus (Warner Bros) Week 2 [2,125] Wkd $4.1M, Cume $15.8M
7. A Christmas Carol (Disney) Week 7 [2,070] Wkd $3.4M, Wkd $130.7M
8. Up In The Air (Paramount) Week 3 [175] Wkd $3.1M, Cume $8.1M
9. Brothers (Relativity/Lionsgate) Week 3 [2,009] Wkd $2.6M, Cume $22M
10. Old Dogs (Disney) Week 4 [2,630] Wkd $2.2M, Cume $43.5M
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Precious (Lionsgate) Week 7 [1,003 runs] Wkd $1.1M, Cume $40M
The Road (Weinstein) Week 4 [396] Wkd $665K, Cume $4.9M
Fantastic Mr Fox (Fox) Week 5 [575] Wkd $600K, Cume $17.3M
Nine (Weinstein) NEW [4] Wkd $246K, Per Screen $61K
Young Victoria (Apparition) NEW [44] Wkd $249K
Me And Orson Welles (Freestyle) Week 4 [134] Wkd $159K, Cume $554K
A Single Man (Weinstein) Week 2 [9] Wkd $137K, Cume $469K
Crazy Heart (Fox Searchlight) NEW [4] Wkd $84K, Per Screen $21K, Cume $109K
The Lovely Bones (Paramount) Week 2 [3] Wkd $40K, Cume $197K
SATURDAY PM: Studio sources tell me that 20th Century Fox’s Avatar is +15% from Friday when comparing matinees. But today’s total will likely be down from yesterday because of the severe winter storm on the Northeast where it could drop -5% or more today.
SATURDAY AM: Fox’s official figure for Avatar‘s Friday total is $27M from its 3,542 total domestic theatrical release, including a slow $3.5M from midnight screenings in 2,000 venues. But the North American grosses, aided by higher 3D ticket prices, picked up steam throughout the day. Now America’s East Coast is slammed by a monster winter storm which could slow the movie’s grosses.
FRIDAY 11:15 PM UPDATE: Fox insiders are telling me that Avatar will make $27.5M to $28M Friday. As for the bad weather, an exec tells me: “Storm was in the Carolinas area today/tonight and I understand that the DC area was getting hammered. I would have to say we did get hurt in that area of the country, and I am worried about the effect in the Northeast tomorrow. Even so, this movie is getting such an incredibly positive reaction that I believe the word of mouth is just viral and those that may have been prevented from seeing the movie today or tomorrow will be there eventually without fail.”
FRIDAY 10 PM UPDATE: I’m told by sources that Avatar has been playing even with Star Trek all day until about 2:30 PM PT when 20th Century Fox’s overall gross and location average for James Cameron’s much ballyhooed technopic started pulling ahead. But 2D Star Trek had 400 more locations vs Avatar‘s 3,542 total domestic theatrical release, and a shorter running time vs Avatar‘s 160 minutes, and $7M in “pre-opening shows” vs. Avatar‘s $3.5M midnights in about 2,000 dates with a 3D ticket price premium. Of course, Star Trek had the benefit of decades of franchise awareness, while Avatar is a wholly new creation. Now Fox could be looking at mid- to high- $20sM for today from its 2,038 domestic 3D locations and 3,129 North American 3D screens and 179 all 3D domestic IMAX. Because the filmmakers are very concerned about the severe winter storm hitting America’s East Coast and the huge negative effect it could have on the domestic box office. If there isn’t significant attendance loss, then Hollywood is now estimating this pre-Xmas 3-day weekend’s opening grosses at $80M — or $27M for Friday including the midnight shows, then $30M on Saturday, and $23M on Sunday when most colleges and high schools are out Monday.
FRIDAY 9:30 AM: ‘Twas the weekend before Christmas, but I refused to wax poetic about whether James Cameron’s long awaited, much discussed, big budget technopic would be a gigantic hit, big hit, or modest hit until I saw some actual numbers. That’s because 20th Century Fox’s Avatar finally opened in theaters last night in North America and 106 countries overseas after years of fan curiosity, followed by recent months of negative buzz, followed by the past two weeks of mostly strong reviews (82% positive on Rotten Tomatoes). No one is predicting disaster for the film. Especially not after I can reveal what Steven Spielberg said after screening it on the Fox lot: “The last time I came out of a movie feeling that way it was the first time I saw Star Wars.”
Rival studios reported to me this morning that midnight U.S. and Canada grosses were around $3 million with the 3D ticket premium. Then 20th Century Fox announced its official midnight screening gross of $3,537,000, including the 3D ticket price premium, from approximately 2000 theatres.
*UPDATE: I also just heard that internationally, Avatar is huge in Australia with $4.8 million from Thursday and Friday combined, and running double what 2012 which did not have a 3D premium did there, or $2.3 million. (By contrast, New Moon opened to $7.8M.) In Germany, Avatar debuted to $1.7 million, compared to 2012‘s $1.4M. (New Moon did $2.2M.) In Korea, Avatar opened to $1.4M, behind 2012‘s $1.9M. (New Moon made only $800K.) But in the UK, opening day was hit by snow so grosses are running behind with Avatar $2.8M vs 2012 $3.2M.*
*2ND UPDATE: Meanwhile, a giant snowstorm is expected on the America’s East Coast, with 20 inches predicted for Washington DC.*
I’ve learned that today’s matinees are running about 10% better than this summer’s Star Trek. But with 3D films, matinees are normally higher because a larger portion of the business is done via presales. Then again, Fox is warning that the weekend before Christmas can be dicey for moviegoing because everyone is more focused on shopping and partying. And weather is already a factor. But movies which open the weekend before Christmas tend to do better multiples than normal from opening box office to lifetime. While in the summer tentpoles tend to have lifetime grosses of 3 to 3.5 times opening weekend. Whereas movies that open the weekend before Christmas can do 4, 5 or even 6 times the opening weekend. So if Avatar were to do $75M to $85M this weekend, it could still get to a $300M-$400M lifetime total which is what the movie’s negative cost is thought to be.
Right now, Hollywood has refined its original unfocused $60M-$75M prediction upwards to $85 million for the 3-day domestic weekend — better than the all-time December opening of I Am Legend at $77,211,321 but only because of Avatar‘s 3D ticket price premium.*
Remember, this is the biggest 3D release in movie history, spurred by the excitement surrounding Cameron’s creation of the Fusion Camera System technology for photo-realistic computer-generated characters through motion capture animation. He wrote the script for Avatar back in the mid-1990s when he and Stan Winston co-founded Digital Domain. But when he took the screenplay to their special effects lab, Cameron was told it was just not possible to make the film with the current technology. So he sat on the project for more than a decade until there could be “several thousand 3-D screens” capable of showing the film.
This opening weekend, Avatar is playing in 3,542 total theaters domestic (including 2,038 3D locations and 3,129 3D screens and 179 all 3D IMAX), and into 17,222 screens overseas (including a total 3D and 3D Imax screens of 5,360, and a total IMAX 3D screens of 81).
Now, that’s a wide 2D release but by no means the widest. And yet last night there weren’t the usual reports pouring in to me of long lines and sold-out theaters after midnight, except for the IMAX 3D venues. Instead, Internet chatter and anecdotal accounts indicate moviehouses showing Avatar were not playing to packed houses — at least not yet.
Tracking, too, had been mixed for the film. While there was big awareness and wannasee among males of all ages, girls and women weren’t there at all. In fact, rival studios kept pointing out to me tht upcoming Sherlock Holmes was tracking better than Avatar in all quadrants.
Nevertheless, Fox is expecting Avatar to have legs domestically well into January. In any case, it’s expected to outperform internationally (not unlike 2012 did earlier this holiday season.) As for those dopey media comparisons to James Cameron’s legendary Titanic legs? Apples and oranges.
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It’s the biggest December opening of all time, but we still get “only.”
You mean the second or possibly the third biggest December opening of all time. I Am Legend: 77 and Return of the King: 72.6. Avatar: estimated ONLY 74. Hah!
I got to see this yawner yesterday in 3-D IMAX. It stunk in all three dimensions.
Isn’t there a single new idea in Hollywood? It is always the evil government, the evil bureaucrat, the evil military, the evil business, the evil white man, the evil man-of-God. For a real blockbuster, you can put them all into one movie! Oooohh – how original!
Then why don’t you take your right-wing agenda out of the sand box and just go home. The other kids want to have fun.
Don’t be such a Left-WingNut! Joe has a good point.
Right wing agenda? Wow, I guess you didn’t get the message: Fight war with war (Afghanistan). I guess war is justifiable on Pandora since it appears to be a socialist planet. Although, I must admit, this movie kept me in the sandbox. Sorry for throwing sand in your face.
“Art is either revolution or plagiarism” and Hollywood doesn’t go for the revolution of an original script.
then why don’t you come up with something better??? Of course this movie is a cliche from stories told once before, same with Shakespeare plays and others who have become famous with stories that were once told in another way. The point is how its told and in this case how much marketing and hype a movie can achieve. Props to the technical aspect of this movie; I agree to some degree with the story – in all, this movie was just a nice movie to see with my family, not the best, just a nice action packed sci-fi movie, all politics aside.
Maybe when these issues are purged from our society, visionaries won’t feel the need to speak out against them. In the mean time, wallow in your ignorance.
You are so right, Joe…. it’s not so much a RW agenda as ‘John’ said in his retort, but rather it’s a tried and true formula that will get it’s money back and then some. It’s an industry, and a business. It’s the same stories over and over. There’s just too much money involved. Wait til the remake of ‘Brokeback Mountain’ or ‘The Untouchables’, or ‘The Wackiest Ship in the Army’ or ‘Cleopatra’ (with Lindsay Lohan and her fake titties, doncha know) as well as ‘The Thing’ and ‘When Worlds Collide’. Just need some CGI and whenever there’s a car/spaceship/M1 Abrams chase, crank the fucking sound up to ear-splitting levels in the theater and boost the bass so that the 10 dollar extra heavily buttered popcorn starts shaking. Oh, and don’t forget to pay off the critics so that they’ll ensure that crowds show up.
James Cameron may be a genius with visuals, but no one in Hollywood has the stones to tell the man that he’s a terrible writer. His hackneyed, dime-story love story makes all of the technology irrelevant if the tale being told puts you to sleep.
Well, all of you should have done your research and learn that he wrote the story in the 1990s. Those were the time where all of you wished to even have stories like his. It is not easy to make an original story but his story was original in the 90s. He was just told that he couldn’t be able to do all the special effects stuff with the technology available at that time. Terrible writer or you are just being plain dumb for guessing.
He may be “a terrible writer” but he makes a hell of a movie!
By the way, when is your movie coming out?
Of course there were elements that we have seen before. Big whup. Avatar is visually arresting. Word of mouth will be HUGE.
The same people criticizing Avatar probably had orgasms over 2012 and Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, the latest superhero debacle or don’t want Star Trek to be surpassed (yes, there are people like that out there).
We can compare Avatar to Dances with Wolves or umpteen jillion other things both cinematic and literary but the truth is there are very few original ideas left in this genre. Almost everything is derivative of something else — even when the writers are trying to be original. But at least I can say this film didn’t have any idiotic character moment “coincidences” that haunt you long after you’ve seen the film or plot holes big enough to fly a fleet of starships through.
And this was one hell of a beautiful film.
James Cameron topped himself, created some new 3D technology and created a damned good film that deserves to make a mint at the box office.
Some of you just can’t stand that.
Oh well.
I agree, anyone who did not appreciate if not love this movie should find another medium to enjoy
Well said!
Oh, please!
There were “no idiotic character moments”?!?! How about the “I see you” drivel? Or when the blue aliens melded their ponytails with the mythical creatures’ antenna? Or the line, “I think they’re going to launch some kind of shock and awe campaign”? Or the fact that all the bad guys were 1. grizzled white military males 2. white weasel small statured male corporation heads, and all the good guys were 1. scientists (read global warming hoaxers) 2. minorities (Latino female helicopter pilot). Even the blue people weren’t original, they talked with a JAMAICAN accent!
This movie so obviously catered to the left wingnut tree-hugging global warming hoaxer crowd it was ridiculous. James Cameron, who is one of the biggest jerks in Hollywood, treats his actors like slaves, makes a movie condemning the enslaving white race and capitalism, all the while making a huge payday himself off the very capitalist system he obviously is speaking out against. Do any of you that thought this movie was so good not see just a little hypocrisy?
I hope this thing bombs and we wait 20 years for another loser from Jimbo Cameron.
oh yeah, James Cameron, he’s such a loser and has had so many bombs, like Alien, the Terminator, Rambo, Titanic…
james cameron has so many bombs??? ohhh that explains why titanic was the highest gross film when it came out or why they are making terminator 5 from an idear he had in 1980s he can take a dump and it will be more creative than most of the bloggers on the net complaining about the story line. i not that sure but i swear that there was a black guy standing there talking about jake being meals on wheels. and when the fifteen minute preview screening of avatar tickets came out i take it that servers crashing from the pounding of people wanting to see it was just a thing that happens to all movie preview that come out these days
Folks, there are millions of old ideas with new twists out there. It’s the agency,studio system that’s broken.
Filmakers are making money and art.Just ask Cameron,Tyler Perry(yes, art to some,hundreds of millions of dollars to his bankers!),Robert Rodriquez, Tarentino, Lucas (yes him),Ang Lee, JJ Abrams, Wachowski Brothers, Ridley Scott,etc.
So,please stop dreaming of the old days, stop player hating filmakers that are making money,and enjoy your VHS of Chinatown.
Times have changed.
It was not so much capitalism itself he was speaking out against. It was more of the bad manifestations it can take.
And what is a left wingnut tree-hugging global warming hoaxer? And what does it have to do with this? The movie was impressive, you obviously had some idea about it walking in and tried to find every way you could to keep that idea.
Can you please explain to me how forcing innocent people out of their home or brutally killing them if they will not leave is a “capitalist” philosophy we should all be supporting? This movie is only anti-capitalism if you believe all capitalism involves killing people, in which case I would suggest you invest in a dictionary.
HAHa! Moviewatcher …you’re just pissed cuz you dont get a dime of that payday. Meanwhile, James Cameron has produced one of the most incredible pieces of movie making ever!
How does that go? the “left wingnut tree-hugging global warming hoaxer crowd” … so that means a good portion of the movie going public in the world?
Stop being such a hater, it doesn’t suit you well at all.
Incredible movie, a truly NEW retelling of the classic hero cycle. Great characters, great visuals, great story.
I don’t care how much money it makes the script is boring as bat shit and 300 million dollars of special effects doesn’t stop it being cowboys and indians in space.
Pity they didn’t find a writer who had an original idea in his head.
Cameron is past it and should stop.
Well, the script was written in 1990s when Cameron couldn’t make the movie because the technologies were not advance enough. Also, why are there so many complains about story when most of the stories out there are not that original at all. Get real people, originals are not easy to make and the story serve its purpose.
Avatar is the new Waterworld.
Close. It’s the new Dances With Wolves, ie, alienated white man sides with underdog for greater cause.
Actually, it’s a good enough show. Boring plot, fantastic cinematic experience. I wouldn’t have minded the tired plot if it had more of an original way of telling the story. (Well yes, Dances With Wolves in 3D is original, but maybe more captivating).
I just saw Avatar and have to agree, it’s much like Dances with Wolves but with giant blue Smurfs playing the part of the Pandoran indigenous people. Throw in an unhealthy dose of eco-weenie mother earth/Gaia worship (or should I say mother Pandora worship} African/Hindu chanting and you do not have much original here. Even when they were explaining how every living thing is tied together, I could not help but think “The force will be with you always, Luke”. To say that Cameron tried to emphasize the Pandoran religion in the movie is an understatement. Scenes dealing with being “born again” or spiritual healing and being brought back to life abound. PETA will be very unhappy about how the Pandorans exploit all manner of beasts to aid in Pandoran travel. And Pandorans pray over the food they kill thanking them for giving their life which will go on in their tribe. Very Native American or should I say Pandoran of them. Of course those that are technologically advanced are the bad guys. Sort of like the technologically advanced West and the third world. Never mind that the bad guys did try to help the natives but were rebuffed. I wonder why the natives needed poison tipped arrowheads if they were living such peaceful lives. Even the Lead Lady Smurf was going to kill the Avatar Smurf before she saw a divine sign. Looking at the film from a scientific point of view, I do not see how it is possible for mountains to be floating in the sky. Maybe it had something to do with the prized mineral. It was never explained. Apparently human beings had not yet figured how to defy gravity such as these mountains since human space ships need centrifugal gravity to stop zero g. Finally, the movie is visually beautiful in 3D but extremely boring in plot, with very little new science fiction ground broken. For the women, there is very little love interest here. Apparently if you want a Pandoran mate, you don’t get married, you just go to it. Wait till it comes out on DVD and save your $11.00.
Wow. So you really tried to find positives, huh?
Seriously, did you not see it in 3D? If I hadn’t, I would have totally hated it, too. If you didn’t see it in 3D, you didn’t “see it” (to quote the film), so your recommendation to wait for it on DVD is horrible advice… unless it has 3D glasses with the disc, it will no doubt disappoint. After seeing it in IMAX 3D yesterday, I will not see it in 2D, ever. When the trailer first came out, I mocked Cameron and his claims “I had to wait 10 years for the technology to be invented before I could make this.” After seeing it, I understand… and it was well worth the wait. Sure, the story’s been told before. But maybe every person seeing it isn’t you (the negative reviewer) and HASN’T seen something like this before… think like a Na’vi for a moment, and get over yourself. Add up the list of bad things about the film, and compare it with the good. For me, the list of amazing things is way longer than the short list of the standard complaints I read about: bland & unoriginal plot, poorly developed characters, theo-eco-evangelistic-preachiness (there’s some originality for ya–I just made that last term up). At least twice in the film, I got chills… the kind that are the reason I loved movies in the first place. The feeling that almost all movies made anymore fail to deliver. The excitement and wonder a child feels, and why getting old sucks so bad. If you honestly have a list of negatives that is bigger than a list of positives in Avatar, please let me no when the wake will be held: I’d like to show up and pay respects to the child in you that’s died.
From what you are saying, it’s sounds like the opposite is true. If you HAVE seen this movie in 3D, then you haven’t seen it.
I understand though. Although I had a bad feeling about this movie, my interest was piqued by reports of how good the 3D visuals were just by themselves. I considered going to see it just for that – already knowing that the plot sucked and would leave a bad taste in my mouth.
But then I figured, if Cameron is truly remaking the future of cinema, then why not just wait for an actual good film to come out in a similar format, then go see that?
So screw this movie. Screw all shitty movie makers. And screw Hollywood that makes far too much money from boring shit.
Now we have internet reviews, and so many films coming out, there really is no reason to financially reward anything substandard. It just sends the wrong signals to the people producing it and gets you more of the same.
We have a world population over six billion, and they can’t find someone who can write a screenplay worthy of a $300 million budget? I seriously doubt that could be the case unless something is wrong within the industry.
That means there are in all probability there are good writers – who’s work we would love – who can’t get a break because everyone is financially supporting some overpaid preachy envirofag instead.
So like I said, screw this movie. It’s part of the problem.
Then again, maybe they don’t charge enough, and our time just isn’t valuable enough to us. So we’ll happily pay a $15 and a few hours of our time just to see an effects demo reel. Kinda like how you can make a Youtube video for nothing, and somebody will watch it for nothing. We all just have too much time on our hands.
Either way, I for one will no longer forgive a lack of basic story elements because of effects. The effects are not what made Cameron’s Termnator 2 a masterpiece, and as far as I’m concerned his subsequent work can live and die by the same standard that makes that movie great even now.
That was beautiful man… serious.
I was truly touched on the emotional level with this film. Avatar delivered much more than I expected, and I had high hopes. I knew it was a love story that could be compared to Dances with Wolves. And on the basics, that could be considered true. But PEOPLE! this is JAMES F”N CAMERON!!! NOT FUCKING KEVIN COSTNER… fucking poop bag compared to Cameron. We all appreciate a good storyteller when we are kids right?.. Well that should never change and this Director is an excellent storyteller, one of the absolute best. This movie in 2D is still a great story, insane CG…INSANE!! wicked battle scenes and very honest touching moments between all the main characters. In 3D its blows your socks off!! period. you are involved in an absolute EPIC movie that feels like a ride that lasts for a great time, dont want to say long..sounds negative. seeing it many times this winter!! Thanks James Cameron, you are a large reason for my love of cinema and movies overall.
If you HAVE to see it in 3D it’s not a film, it’s a theme park attraction like Cameron’s first 3D effort. A truly great film can be watched on the big screen or on a tiny little iPod screen and still be appreciated.
ok.
i wrote on this blog a few days ago my thoughts about this movie and what i had heard about it.
1. i did not see it in 3d – anyone with glasses, has had RK surgery, wears contact lenses with one for seeing close and one for seeing far – can’t use the 3d glasses – as such this left out a lot of people.
2. i caved and went to see it in regular movie format on a big big screen theater.
3. even though it was in regular movie format i could see the beauty of the film and it reminded me of Princess Mononoke.
4. plot – sucked
5. when the movie was silent for the moralizing or the over the top (“let’s get this done and get back in time for dinner”) militantancy (thus anti-militant) of the “marines” or “jar-head tribe” I was giggling and received several “looks” from the liberal section of the movie goers in the theater who had come for their religious experience of the week.
6. i could not get over the similarities between sigourney weaver’s scientist in this movie and ripley in aliens. to that end, there was a ‘burke’ – the typical uncaring corporate type who actually pushes the toy stick forward to continue bulldozing the pristine area.
7. this movie was racist – sorry but it needs to be said. this is typical of white liberal guilt played on large screen. white guy takes on the cultural mores of the very closed indigenous tribe, then becomes its hero. PLEASE, spare me. White guys were the problem, and now a white guy is the savior, albeit in a kinder and gentler manner. WHAT A CROCK!
WTF? The indigenous people couldn’t have their own hero who, since belonging to the planet, could out think the ‘invaders’?
8. It reminded me of disney’s pocohontas movie.
9. And let’s remember the real history instead of revisionist history of this planet: it was the Spanish King and Queen who invested in the crazy idea of Chris Columbus an Italian ship captain who wanted to find a way to China for trading. The Spanish came in and rules Central and South America with an iron hand, wiping out tribes or getting them to wipe out other tribes (the enemy of my enemy is my friend) did the digging for gold at the expense of environmental protection laws. Many of the Spanish sailors bonded with native women and started families. They brought horses and a few other ideas (technology) that increased the prosperity for those that sided with the Spanish. Thus, the Spanish are to blame and so I chose to think that Cameron has a problem with Spanish people in general and their treatment of the natives and the environment.
Other than that – it was an ok movie and I’m glad I paid matinee prices.
Hope Fox gets their money back from all those libbies to pay for the sticker price of Cameron’s white guilt fantasy epic.
I’ve been wondering if the Fox News crowd is going to be criticizing the anti-capitalist, liberal-on-steriods aspects of this movie, or will corporate, News Corp loyalty prevail.
You do realize this is a FOX film.
I don’t think Fox News will be having their minions bash it.
Excellent review, I too was bothered by the fact it is 2154, they travel from Earth to Pandora and they still need the helecopter blade to fly? I know it’s just a movie however, that just doesn’t pass the smell test.
Yeah think of it from a corparate perspective. What’s gonna be cheaper even then?
Come on, stop criticizing ! At least he did something , WHAT did you realize YOU???
I think the movie was great, best 3D movie EVER! Great story, though…
By the way I didn’t know he was Canadian, always though he was American. Anyways, haters just have to keep their comments for themselves. YOU DID A GREAT JOB CAMERON… Great come back!!!
I just saw Avatar, and the effects are actually incredible. Now onto the story. The movie is a rip off of Dances With Wolves, and even throwing in a little of Pocahantas. For God’s sake the hero in the movie’s initial are JS, as in John Smith. Of course the evil white men are trying to exterminate the “NATIVES”. James Cameron should have just put them on alien horseback, and marched them down, THE TRAIL OF TEARS. Oh and the one brown skinned supporting character ( Michelle Rodriguez) trades sides because she couldn’t go along with whitey anymore. Come to think of it I think Keith Olberman wrote the script.
Actually. it rips off A Man Called Horse
Who else is going to exterminate the “natives” but the corporate giants and the evil white man?!? wouldn’t be too believable or much of a plot if it was the tree hugging scientists trying to take over the world and exterminate the cultures of the indigenous peoples…haha
Wow, how disappointing. These are some pretty insightful reviews and you guys seem to have very similar opinions. Sounds like this movie doesn’t live up to the hype. I especially dislike “Gaia Worship” movies. I think I’ll wait until it comes out on DVD and rent it for a buck at one of the red machines.
Wait until it comes on DVD and save 11 dollars? I’m speechless even more than you are clusless. Go back to sleep.
“Wait till it comes out on DVD and save your $11.00.” if you never want to see a movie studio take a risk with $400M of investor money.
Your assessment of the film seems rather weak. You fail to realize that there is a history of interaction between the two species that precedes the events of the story. The Na’vi held a deserving sense of contempt for the human invaders, and if you were capable of following the plot of the film as it was intended to be, you’d understand that. Besides, wouldn’t your reaction be at least bitter, if not hostile, were some extra-terrestrial species made camp here on Earth and started digging up your backyard? Or, if the effect of the suggestion escapes you, perhaps an example more involved in current global events: what if the dreaded Taliban just strolled across the border and started packing up American resources (assuming you’re American) and clamming them for themselves, and then offered to open schools to educate us all in the ways of Allah and Islam and other “extreme Eastern practices”? I’m sure the US and its citizens would be nothing but warm and accepting…
Plus, I’m sure the poison-tipped arrows could have some sort of hand in either food-gathering, defense, or war with rival Na’vi tribes. It didn’t seem to me that the movie’s intent was to paint the Omaticaya as a completely peaceful and loving people, but merely as resistant of the human oppression that was upon them.
And marriage? It’s a human invention–why WOULD the Na’vi practice it? You assume that because you hold certain opinions, they are necessarily right–neglecting to attempt to see things from the others’ perspectives. For instance, “just going at it” is the natural (animal and perfectly acceptable way of propagating a species, but because YOU believe in a concept of marriage before intimate relations, you judge the people. Moreover, you clearly relate and sympathize with the villains (humans) in the story simply because you are one–failing to recognize that, in a similar situation, you could just as easily be represented by the Na’vi if someone were trying to nullify your natural rights to live as you see fit.
And yes, the story clearly borrows from Dances With Wolves, Ferngully, and likely many others. But really, what’s wrong with that? It’s a message that clearly hasn’t been received, as similar injustices continue on today. There’s nothing wrong in honoring the classics while trying to reiterate their message, especially if it’s a noble one.
But, even if you’re unable to see the beauty in the story, at least see it for the beauty on the screen. The presentation will undoubtedly redefine the way we tell visual stories, influencing the future of cinema.
“Never mind that the bad guys did try to help the natives but were rebuffed.”
How exactly did they try to help the natives?
So, I want to start by letting you know thzt I will be eagerly awaiting your screenplay…
The movie had a very deep message and I find it hard to believe that anyone could not understand the vast and deep message. And about your comment about the flying mountains and the hunman soldiers using traditional spacecraft/aircraft… You said you were basing your criticism of that part of the movie on science. If you knew anything about physics, then you would knoow that we have NO idea what gravity is caused by. NONE. Our “laws” in the physics realm is constantly being amended or completely done away with. OPEN YOUR MIND.
The Earth as far as we know it, is our only god. This Earth has provided all of us with life yet we only destroy it and build our own monuments on top. That human beings should take a more introspective look at ourselves before we damn or judge another.
I felt the metaphsical aspect of the movie was brilliant. He presented these aliens as being incredibly spiritual people that were connected to the core of life. Maybe it was a god for their planet or a physical manifestation of life itself, Cameron did a great job explaining a very practical view of reality and our universe.
Amazing movie, DO NOT miss this in 3d at your therater.
I believe Dances with Wolves was a better movie. I also didn’t like the way Cameron draws from parts of Braveheart. I mean really, when the flying horses are going to clash with the “modern flying machines”, I thought they were going attack with long spears made from the giant trees. This movie falls far short of the hype I’m sad to say.
clearly you didn’t see the movie, so the next time you have a thought… just let it go
Actually I saw the movie last night at the Arclight. I walked out at 2am. The plot and dialogue were cringe-worthy
Agree with Blackline. Saw it at Kips Bay yesterday at 10:30 am.
Sad to say…you might be right. James Cameron is a control freak and in this case his control over everything detracted from the crativity of the film
Way to copy a Ron White joke there pal.
It’s actually a remake of the 50′s TV series named “Cochise”.
And Coshise had a budget of $25,000 an episode.
The landscape was wonderful story line a mix of tree huggers,environmentalists cheer leaders, fantasy and a miracle ending. Hubby fell asleep during some of it.
Some of the way the photography cgi done gave me a bad headache.
Decent story but very very long
The waterworld comment sums it up!
Not sure who your sources are but the calls I’ve seen range from $60m – $70m. $85m would be massive for a third weekend in December.
Nikki doesn’t use publicly available sources. He seems to know people at the studios. Or at least knows how to access their estimates. You won’t look bad for underestimating this movie. Many people did. The question is how many females will get on board. Hollywood.com says there are signs of under 25 year old female interest.
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lol. Nikki is a SHE, mfan.
Titanic didn’t set the world on fire at first either. This movie will have LEGS for lack of a better word and people will be talking about it all during christmas and through new years. It will also be mindblowing overseas…especially in Japan.
Exactly. 28 million for Titanic on opening weekend. True Lies was his biggest opening with something in the low 30′s, I think. I’m going to see the film but am not going to make it this weekend (or maybe not until the New Year).
On the downside, this January and February actually has some decent looking releases and it will be one of the tougher first quarters in some time. Titanic owned the box office up until April. I don’t see any way that Avatar is going to be able to do that.
Actually, Cameron’s best weekend was $146 million for 2006′s Aquaman.
Good thing Aquaman came out before Medellin, otherwise Cameron would’ve never even cast Chase for the lead role. Chase carried that movie. The special effects sucked.
Funny that Aquaman had to contend with rolling blackouts, and now Avatar has to contend with falling snow. Is this Cameron’s curse?
The Entourage references are brilliant.
I agree, the number of people coming out the theater saying they had to see it again at least one more time was quite big.
I noticed most of the audience was young and male, but that will change. The girl I saw Avatar with (in her twenties and has never seen Dances with Wolves) asked me what I thought about the film. I told her I liked it, then she got quiet then said, “I really really liked it.” She’ll tell her freinds . . . Next time I see it, I’ll see it in 3D and there will be more women in the theater.
To everyone who’s comparing this to Dances with Wolves. It’s actually more like A Man Called Horse, but that movie came out in the 70′s.
The difference between Cameron’s other movies and this one is story. Titanic had enough story content that it could have been a longer movie than it was without losing anything. Avatar could have been a good ninety minute movie. Instead it was made into a three hour “epic” that will have people talking all right. They will be talking about how boring the plot was, how silly the meta-physical references were, and how they should have spent their money seeing Blind Side again.
No, sorry, they won’t. Clearly you didn’t like the film, but it seems to be news to you that your opinion is only your opinion,l and it doesn’t have any influence on anyone else. It’s very obvious and easy to see the film has already got hugely positive word of mouth, whether you like it or not.
And what, exactly, was wrong with it’s metaphysical references? I’ve shared a similar view of life and the world around me–I thought the film’s ideas about the relationship of all things was quite accurate.
I was stunned to find that none of the Madison, Wi 3D IMAX showings are sold out yet, past noon.
We got in to see it tonight here in Madison, and the turnout just seemed average to me also.
My opinion of the movie: if you’d like the exaggerated politics and pre-chewed Hollywood liberal proselytizing of a “Fern Gully” remake on steroids, only stripped of funny or engaging characters and memorable songs, with lots of not-quite-human disturbing nakedness, but some cool special effects and futuristic concepts… then it’s great! I can see how it will work for some niche people, but I’d really like a do-over for those 3 hours.
Apart from midnight shows, the IMAX in central London has only one showing left with tickets this year.
Saw it myself last night, it was like nothing, and I mean nothing, I’ve seen before.
Performances were spot on, and as Sam Worthington’s character said he lost track of what was his real life and what was the dream, when I walked out the film at the end I wondered the same thing.
poor you, you better watch the movie in 3D. It is soooo not the same thing
More bad news – bad weather predicted this weekend in the Northeast. Just picked up Terminator from Redbox, but eventually want to see Avatar on the big screen. I think it will pick up steam over the next few weeks. I’ve heard great reviews so far.
It may take off ‘slow-ish’ at the B.O. … but if this movie doesn’t have legs in it of the kind we rarely get to experience, I don’t know which movie will.
I saw it twice already and will see it again Sunday. So will the people I saw it with. It is an experience like none other since, yes, Spielberg is right, I saw Star Wars for the first time 1977.
Am in awe – and in love – with this beautiful, most stunning cinematic experience. I call it (repeatedly) ‘cinematic experience’ as I am not quite sure if Avatar really is a movie the way movies usually are.
That’s what I’m hearing. “Unlike any movie you’ve ever seen”, “A new paradigm in movie making” (Zoinks! $400 million a pop going forward; hopefully Moore’s Law will start to apply to movie making as well).
I think you’ll see a steam roll effect with ticket sales particularly with repeat viewers like yourself. Can’t wait to see it.
Also, to Rob’s point below, a 3 hour movie will exclude some weekday viewers.
waterworld II you must be an idiot, this sucks
Well, you can keep your bad comments for you, because Cameron did at least SOMETHING. What did YOU realize dude? euhhh…Let me guess, NOTHING !!! So ZIP IT!
What is this phrase “What did YOU realize dude?” Realize?
Maybe you mean, “What have you done, sir?” Ever pick up an English book? Guess not.
Jeff k. And everyone else with nothing but bad things to say is just a hater. This movie pointed to the reality of our civilization. We know that the way our race is exploiting this planet will soon destroy it. We know that hundreds and thousands of species dissapear every year due to the harm we cause as a race and yet we do nothing about it. All we have is oil digging and forest cutting bastards trying to get rich to have more in the future, when truth is there isn’t one. So wake up a**hole and smell the roses. Only ignorant hill billys like you fail to realize that a lot of the issues that are referrenced in this movie are crucial to the survival of our society. If you don’t know how to appreciate a good movie, its on YOU!
I agree totally! Absolutely fabulous movie, particularly in 3D I MAX.
well you have to remember its an almost 3 hour movie and most people have to work on Friday .I didn’t go last night because after the length of the film and then traveling home it would be about 4 am before I got home.I’m sure this film has nothing to worry about
AVATAR was shown in a limited amounted of theaters for the Midnight show. I saw it last night in SF and there was not a seat to be had. Oh, the movie was quite the experience can a movie be too perfect? Except for the closing theme song this was the best film experience I’ve had since I saw APOCALYPSE NOW at the Zigfield in NY on opening day and it reminded me alot of Coppala’s masterpiece. Just my 2 cents Cheers and happy holidays!
It’s breathtaking. I wouldn’t be surprised if word of mouth carries this movie very far. I wish there were more IMAX locations in existence, because it’s an incredible experience on that big screen.
You better watch it in 3D, it’s so much better! And more breathtaking
And with that, the doomsayer floodgates are open.
See you in March when Avatar laps TDK.
“And with that, the doomsayer floodgates are open.”
“See you in March when Avatar laps TDK.”
yep. Just copy pasted this one. should be fun seeing this “prophecy” come “true.”
we’ll see. we’ll see.
Can we talk about something other than Avatar, PLEASE?????? There are other movies opening, you know. Can we get some news on them this weekend in between your shilling for Cameron and his silly, boring, fanboy movie?
Have you seen the thing? Its breathtaking. Even if you don’t like these types of movies, it is amazing. I’m going to go back and see it in imax when I’m back in the states. I saw it here in uraguay, and I was stuned. Most of the uraguayans were too, Lthough there wasn’t that big of a turnout. This movie is definatldy going to travel by word. A masterpiece.
I’m almost 32 my friend…love cinema and I can tell you it’s everything you want but not “fanboy movie”. It’s one of the greatest movie I’ve ever seen. It just get in my top 3
So you haven’t seen the film, and you’re annoyed that everyone is talking about it, so you call it a “fanboy” film? So how is everyone talking about it? Is everyone a fanboy/girl?
Don’t get pissy just because the movie is getting a lot of attention, every weekend has a movie everyone is looking at, this is no different.
It’ll still do $100 million this weekend but could have been larger had FOX thought to market the film to women as well….men they have locked but there is a love story driving AVATAR and so TCF dropped the ball in not also marketing the pic to women.
Because a love story between blue people is icky. Especially when one is a real blue person and one is a fake blue person.
I’m as freaky as the next person but that love scene made me cringe.
If you want to know why the numbers are less than expected/projected for traditional screens, perhaps it is due to people finally understanding that you really need to see this film in true IMAX 3D to fully appreciate and experience it. Go see it the right way! It’s amazing!
Winter storm warning for the weekend in the mid-atlantic states. 10-20 inches of snow predicted. Then there’s last minute Christmas shopping for those who still have jobs. Sorry James, iceberg dead ahead!
Titanic opened on the same weekend, hot shot.
I wonder if Spielberg meant the first time he saw the final cut of Star Wars or the first time Lucas showed it to him and Coppola and they thought it was a piece of crap?
Nice try at sounding like an “in the know” hip cynic. Lucas acknowledges the first rough cut he showed everyone was terrible. It’s in the documentary DVD for the original trilogy. Duh.
As far as grosses are concerned, why is there no mention of the long running time? That has to be taken into consideration. Isn’t this movie clocking in at over 2 and a half hours?
Either way, seeing it on Sunday after the snowstorm passes through.
Titanic barely beat Tomorrow Never Dies its first weekend, and we all know how that turned out. I’m not expecting a repeat of Titanic, but this movie is off the charts amazing.
Fox and company need not worry too much about the opening. Avatar will have legs, ten foot long legs. The film culminates Cameron’s work so far, Terminator, Alien, Abyss, Titanic — it is all here; tears, fears and cheers. The “youth” that were at the screening I saw last night will see this film again. And the upfront costs will amortize over the next two films – because there will be sequels…
The Wednesday night preview screening I caught in Belfast, Northern Ireland was full to capacity a good twenty minutes before show-time. The audience certainly responded well to it and in terms of sheer spectacle we haven’t seen its like for quite some time.
Huge snowstorm on the East Coast is going to hamper things…
I saw it in Atlanta, 7:00 pm show, and the theater was not full. No snow here (yet).
Why all the hate for this movie. It’s like we invested money into this project. Who cares what he spent, its the studios money. I’m going to watch it anyway.
If this movie flops it will send a massive shockwave throughout the business and may be the end of spiraling film costs. If it succeeds, it will embolden the people who believe the future of movies is “tech and awe” and no story.
Of course it’s our money, you moron.
LOL, you the moron,not him! And stop blaming a person because he wants to watch the movie. BEST 3D MOVIE EVER, anyways
It’s a Movie,its purpose is to entertain, which it absolutely did, not to bring to light and correct every wrong thats ever been perpetrated by Humans in this world and or worlds if you will.Every once in a while maybe it wouldn’t hurt to be a child again and just believe. Only way to see it is in 3D /Imax, I’ll definetly see it again
It will also send the message that we don’t want anything original if it’s expensive.
Just saw the 3D version. Well done and very enjoyable. Will go see it again if asked by other freinds who have not yet seen it, but then I saw it at an AMC theater for only five dollars!
AVATAR is the Best Movie of 2009!
It’s also the Best Movie of the Decade AND the New Millenium!!
James Cameron ROCKS and RULES!!!
The 3-D effects are magnificent, the story is poignant and believable, and everything about this film is first-rate.
BRAVO.
dial it down a wee bit dude.
would want you to piss in your paths over a movie or director.
let the movie get born first before throwing epitaphs.
Found your way over here from AICN?
I think he’s saying this movie will be a special effects gamechanger like Star Wars was. There are already arguments over what categories of awards shows it should fit under. And if girls get on board, I believe it will beat Titanic, but that’s a big if at this point.
absolutely agree! Stunning movie!
I agree with you. I was suprised, IN THE GOOD SENSE of course…
YOU ROCK CAMERON
Awesome, Avatar was fantastic. 3D sure has come a long way.