It’s just been brought to my attention that, while they were Harvard undergraduates, Jeff Zucker ’86 called the cops on Conan O’Brien ’85. (I never saw previous reports about this.) According to articles in both the Harvard Crimson and Yale Daily News,
Zucker, then president of the university’s Harvard Crimson daily newspaper, dispatched the police to the Harvard Lampoon office after O’Brien, who was president of the campus humor magazine, organized a prank on his college rival — stealing an entire print run of the Crimson before it could be distributed. ”He only forgave me when I gave him The Tonight Show,” Zucker told a Yale gathering back in 2005. The Harvard Crimson described the incident this way in a 2004 article about Conan landing The Tonight Show courtesy of Zucker: “O’Brien cut his teeth in comedy as president of The Harvard Lampoon, a semi-secret Sorrento Square social organization that used to occasionally publish a so-called humor magazine. In fact, O’Brien first met Zucker, his current boss, one day when O’Brien and the Lampoon editors stole all the copies of that morning’s Crimson. Zucker, then Crimson President, called the police and met O’Brien face to face while he was being arrested.” In 2001, Conan told The New Yorker this about the incident: “College pranks are supposed to be clever, but our rivalry with the Crimson had degenerated into us stealing something, Jeff calling the police, and the police making us haul it back,” said O’Brien. (Other Lampoon pranks on Zucker included ”a fake phone-sex ad with Zucker’s dorm-room phone number. Zucker did not find any of this particularly hilarious.”) So what’s to glean from this Harvard history lesson? Yes, Jeff Zucker was a thin-skinned prick who didn’t understand comedy or know how to handle creatives even back then.
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Wow. It sounds like Zucker’s stick has been up his ass way too long to be healthy.
Maybe Leno, Zucker, and Conan are all 3 playing the media to get people to watch these shows and this whole incident is a marketing ploy?
I’m starting to think you’re right.
I had thought the same thing! I’ve always liked Conan better but I’ve found myself setting the DVR more often to catch the show just because of all this….things that make you go hmmmm…
Yes, it’s a $45 million marketing ploy that leaves Conan without a show.
Zucker has colon cancer you insensitive prick.
maybe he should have taken the stick out sooner
So if you have cancer no one’s allowed to say anything negative about you?
If that’s the case, I sure hope you don’t have cancer, because you’re an asshat.
Brilliant !!!
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Those hands are creepy. Huge Conan fan since I was a kid. Super Funny. Your story was boring, at least make up something creepy, like those hands.
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So Nikki, you’re saying that Conan CAN get arrested — just not at 11:35?
No, Jay Leno will come in and take over the arrest himself.
Lol!
Good one! Conan has balls;) Hot!
At least it qualified him to run the L&O network.
And if Conan actually pulled in decent ratings we wouldn’t be having this discussion. He only has himself to blame for his failure.
According to NBC press release Conan did pull in decent ratings.
Leno could’ve said no back in 2004 but didn’t. NBC is to blame
I’m sick of seeing this argument. Any new host would have to find his own audience…just like Jay had to. You also have to take into account the horrible state of NBC primetime which is the REAL issue here. Jay is the one that FAILED!
Amen, bad lead in
It’s not nearly as simple as that and either you know that, or you’re terribly misinformed.
Rick, simple-mindedness. Simple-mindedness, Rick. Oh, you two are already acquainted?
How could Conan pull in decent ratings with Jay’s 10pm show canabilizing his audience? It’d be the equivalent of Jay starting out the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson eating his ratings at 10pm.
his ratings were fine, would have been twice as good if Leno hadnt brought is aging baby-boomer audience into primetime with him.
Agreed. All the old people laughed and pooped themselves to sleep before Conan’s show even started. Us youngins didn’t have that problem because 1. we can control our bowels and 2. We don’t find Jay funny enough to laugh ourselves tired.
Deanna, are you able to speak with any intelligence? I feel pity for you. While insulting people is an easy thing to do (and can sometimes be funny) in your case it just goes to show that you’re an asshole.
The reason that Jay became popular to begin with was only due to the Hugh Grant debacle. Hugh was already scheduled to appear to promote a new movie but was arrested for soliciting a prostitute just before his scheduled interview. Only when he decided to come clean and do the show anyway did Jay get his now famous ratings boost that beat Letterman. Until then, approx 13 months after he became host, did he finally get a ratings win.
The simple fact now is that Jay’s new show has become the albatross around late nite TV at NBC. If Jay doesn’t bring in the ratings at 10p, then the nightly news shows don’t bring in an audience. If their is now bump from the news into Conan’s show, then Conan doesn’t do well. The problem still resides with Jay. Follow the ratings… Conan started off strong, very strong. But, over the months since Jay’s show has been on, Conan has seen a gradual decline… all thanks to the loss of the lead-in show from Jay.
Leno had bad ratings at 10pm, which made NBC local news loss 30% of viewers, they were bad lead ins for Conan. Plus Leno stole all the A-list guests from Conan. I am with CoCo #teamconan
Yeah! He had such a great and successful lead-in!
if youve been reading the news conan has better ratings than leno this week and are on the rise
The rating argument really is a horrible argument. They don’t take into account DVR recording, online streaming, youtube clips. There’s a reason that polls have been taken showing that Conan is an 83% favorite. The TV-only crowd may favor Leno, but the online crowd (which is MUCH larger and growing) clearly favors Conan. You can bet that a LOT more people will stop watching NBC because of this move (and Zucker/Eberson’s classless acts) than would have come back to Leno. I wish Leno all the luck in the world, but there’s no question in my mind that NBC is making some very questionable moves.
Conan had good ratings for a new tonight show host until this REALLY AWFUL show started to stink up the 10 – 11 time slot every night and destroyed the local nightly news ratings. Lets be honest. Leno needs to move to Vegas and do vanilla, milk toast comedy for 70 year olds on vacation. Conan is the future. Leno is the past.
How many 18 to 35 year olds do you think have a nielsons ratings box???
Unbelievable that people think that that asshole jay is actually watched by more people.
Every young person I know watches and loves conan and hates jay.
Way to think about the future NBC, you morons.
Without good lead in numbers, conan has almost no chance at getting good ratings.The network failed to deliver the numbers in late prime, and they’re killing the local news too.
How many times do we have to go over this? Leno’s ratings also sucked when he took over the Tonight Show. It took a while to build up his audience. And as for his 10 pm show, the affiliates were ready to pull that because those ratings really sucked.
Leno is just a whiny, sycophantic baby.
i heard he was #1 for 9 weeks…. soooo uhhh you FAIL.
Conan’s ratings weren’t the issue, Leno’s were. The local NBC stations were complaining Leno wasn’t giving them a strong lead-in to the 11:00 news.
Leno’s ratings sucked the first two years of hosting The Tonight Show. They’re not giving Conan a chance.
It’s not Conan’s rating that are the issue, Jay Leno’s are in the tank and apparently he most have photos of Zucker with farm animals or something to shift everyone about.
Hey Ricky-
You may find this article interesting:
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/23/arts/jay-leno-criticizes-nbc-on-tonight-cliffhanger.html
Apparently your boy had his own struggles when he first started “The Tonight Show,” and thought it was unfair of NBC to judge him so quickly…
That’s a load of crap and anyone with half a brain knows it. Leno didn’t have to compete with Carson coming on an hour earlier. Or there never would have been a Leno show. It should have been pathetically easy for Zucker to predict that the ratings would be split between the two.
Rick – remember that this is all about Leno’s poor ratings upsetting the affiliates. Conan is the innocent victim here. Sounds like Zucker is Leno’s bitch. I hate you NBC!
Where’s the mug shot? Was he armed and extremely hilarious?
Just watched Kimmel on Leno. What’s there to say? Just two of the least amusing or charismatic guys sharing one stage.
Nary a genuine laugh to be had. Kimmel is so desperate for people to think he’s edgy and a bad boy of comedy, but honestly, HONESTLY, he’s talentless. Mind bogglingly lucky mofo. He’s gotta go. Let them both go at this point. I know it won’t happen, but man, such blatant mediocrity has eroded my love of the once amazing late night genre.
Conan is a juvenile and awkward like a teenager. Teenagers can’t pay his bills any more than college students. You make your money on 35 on up. Also, Conan’s comedy is more miss than hit. He stinks. Blaming others is really stupid. Jay is great; stop trashing him. Where’s Fallon? He’s awesome.
You disqualified yourself when you said Fallon is awesome.
Last time I checked I was a college student that pays his own bills and has financial independence, thank you very much.
You lost the game (and argument) when you not only stated “Where’s Fallon? He’s awesome.” but when you stated that money is made on 35 and up. There’s a booming culture of consumers and marketing online. People are moving away from the box in the living room and are moving to more on-demand types of media. While people out of college may have the money, as you claim, they also have kids who watch tv and parents buy things for their children because they are influenced and begged by that demographic that “doesn’t pay their bills”, even though they have a larger control of media and demands than you give them credit for. Case in point: Hannah Montana. End of argument.
Yeah, Rich, good point about Conan’s ratings. Because, you know, Conan’s lead in is kicking ass. The whole network is in the tank. Get a grip.
Wow, people are not intelligent at all with business. It wasn’t about ratings. Research a little before speaking Rick.
They used to say that television is just high school with money. Now it’s gone to college,if you can call it that. Sounds like Zucks and Conie spent too much time bowling at the Hong Kong in Harvard Square. Or not enough.
Rick: you sir, are a misinformed ass cake. If Conan sucked half as much as Leno, this whole thing wouldn’t even be a problem. But that’s not reality, now, is it?
Wow…what made Zucker think he’d be any good in the ENTERTAINMENT industry? Sounds like he has the personality, and entertainment savvy, of a low-level government accountant making $45K.
@ Rick
I do recall Leno having Friends, Seinfeld, ER, and Frasier has HIS lead ins…just to name a few.
And who has Conan have? Leno and Kath and Kim? The truth is that this is no one’s fault but Jeff Zucker’s. They should change it from “The Peter Principle” to “The Zucker Principle.”
Knew them both back then. Stealing the editor’s chair — funny. Stealing the Ibis — funnier. Stealing the print run — fucking stupid.
As for Conan, you signed a contract. You appear to be getting fired. You got the kill fee. Done. Enjoy. Or don’t. But there’s not much more to it.
To Bill Johnson -
I think the whole point of what NBC is doing is that it’s trying to fire Conan without paying him the kill fee.
If NBC pays the kill fee — and finds new jobs or pays decent severance to the below-the-line staffers who moved to Los Angeles to work on Conan’s LA show — than all of this falls under the category of “dumb network TV moves.”
If NBC goes out of its way to stiff Conan and the people who work for him, then that’s pretty mean.
Well apparently he isn’t getting his kill fee, because they aren’t taking his show away they just want to move it back 30 mins. (Of course some may argue that is the same thing, but not NBC). Real hardball stuff.
Conan refused to move “for the sake of the show” or somesuch nonsense.
I don’t think anyone believes NBC gets away free but perhaps not the $60M kill fee. They will settle. Unfortunately for Conan, there is almost no way Conan can win here. He may get a fat settlement of course, but it appears his career on TV is over unless somehow they salvage something from this mess.
FWIW, the deals NBC made were horrible. Why did they agree, 5 years in advance, to move Conan and dump Jay, and offer up $60 mil to Conan and $80 Mil to Jay if they didn’t honor their deal? Who plans that far ahead in a market environment that changes rapidly? In 2004 they could have fired Conan and replaced him… with Jay’s lead-in they could have built another Late Night host and not had to worry about $140 million in future kill fees.
And this dumb idea of putting the tonight show (with a different name) on at 10pm to save money is the dumbest idea in showbiz. Isn’t the purpose of business to make money? Who cares if his show costs 1/5th the price of any other show if nobody wants to watch it. And OBVIOUSLY nobody wants to watch it… that is why they put those shows on at 11:30 in the first place. This moron Zucker thought he could out-think the people who built the network? What an ego.
So I say, NBC should pay for being so stupid, and for trying to make up for their bad negotiations in 2004 by being dicks about it today. And they will pay, not just to Conan but to buy 5 new shows for next year and in ratings losses for the rest of this year.
And I don’t care what ABCNNBCBS puts on the air. I just love the drama and guffaw at the hubris.
Hey Bill,
Why not fire the guy who’s ratings sucked waaaay more?
NBC never moved Carson into the 10 PM slot so Leno had to compete against him.
Letterman is a perfect example of NBC screwing over their own talent. And if they do it often enough, there will be no NBC.
Yeah, Zucker’s head is so far up his ass he can see. He has destroyed a great network, and with it the jobs and lives of a great many people. That’s his legacy. That’s his life. The man is human garbage.
WELL PUT, Louis. Leveled a great network. Very sad.
And incidentally, if Conan ends up somewhere with a decent leadin to his show, he is going to walk all over the rest of late night. Conan forever!
“O’Brien cut his teeth in comedy as president of The Harvard Lampoon, a semi-secret Sorrento Square social organization that used to occasionally publish a so-called humor magazine.”
Hmmm. O’brien STILL occasionally dabbles in so-called hunor. He’s a pathetic wannabe teenager.
Yeah OK, Zucker… Get your resume ready. You’re going to need it.
In the history of television has one executive ever screwed up a network as badly as Jeff Zucker has since he came to power in ’90s?
Not only did he take his network from first to last, he made them a national joke.
And Jay. Oh Jay. If he didn’t want to retire in five years why did he take the deal? To be loyal? No, he just changed his mind after a few years. And while that’s very human, he still had made a deal, and it was time to get off the stage. Best to go out on top. (It’s not like he ever made any attempt to push the format anyway.) He could’ve gotten a year-long residency at any Vegas hotel if he wanted. Is that the same exposure as The Tonight Show? Maybe not. But he could’ve been a mensch. Will he go back to being in first place? Maybe (but not with the younger demo.) Will he still be remembered as the nice guy he supposedly is? Probably not anymore.
NBC broke their contract with Jay by removing him from 10pm, he could’ve walked over to ABC. He and Conan both leaving? Now that would make Jay a mensch.
Go back and look at Leno’s rating when he took over for Carson, it was worse I do believe, far worse. But they gave the show time, something they aren’t willing to do this go around apparently. Seven months is not enough time for any show to find a strong audience, it never has been.
When Jay took over from Johnny, Letterman killed him consistently until Hugh Grant’s post-prostitute visit in 1995, 3 years after Jay took over.
Exactly, right: “they gave the show time”. Plenty. They also didn’t put Johnny Carson on a new 10pm show before Leno’s fledgling Tonight Show to sabotage its chances for success.
You’re all a bunch of assholes. All of you. People are dying, and you’re fighting over the most inconsequential bullshit imaginable.
Leno sucks.
Zucker sucks.
Conan, love you, but your show was criminally unfunny from the debut episode in LA.
Letterman, like you, too, but going after cheap shots with the guy’s chin? It’s a tired joke, half your studio audience that night were probably overweight Jane and John Does from the Midwest, and who doesn’t have something about their physical appearance they would like to change. You have 20 writers making upwards of half a million dollars a year, and that’s the best you guys can come up with? Pathetic. Someone who’s kid is going to the subject of taunts for your ill-advised sex scandal shouldn’t be lobbing insults at a guy who’s been married to his wife for 30 years.
Kimmel, like you, too, but no one is going to know who you are in 20 years. You’re such a non-issue.
And quit going after Fallon and Daly. Are they funny? No, they’re not, but if someone gave me millions of dollars to do a talk show, I’d sign up as well. Pick on someone your own size, especially in light of the fact that they’re both genuinely kind human beings. It’s too easy to go after them — why don’t you go after Limbaugh or whoever else? Ridiculous.
All a bunch of spoiled brats. You should be ashamed.
they’re dying and then you go on and make a comment, too!
agree that it’s all absurd, but, really, you’re sitting here reading this chain and commenting as well. just like I’m doing right now, too!
Haiti is an epic tragedy to be sure (it’s been one since Reagan was in office) and we’ve all made our donations, but beyond that, short of picking up and volunteering to go there, the average person can’t impact Haiti.
so, instead, we bicker about Conan & Jay & Jeff and all the banalities of NBC’s latest PR fiasco. just do us all a favor and admit that you’re doing the same goddammed thing.
And yet here You are… adding to the fray… what does that make you? Sanctimonious?
The chin was used as metaphor; nicely I might add. Otherwise I agree with your thoughts. Conan is actually funny and will continue to make us laugh in some venue, somewhere.
If you were getting dicked around at work, it would definitely be the concern of both you and the people who know you (customers, associates, family). This is similar, but on a national level.
The next time you get fired, give me a call and I’ll gladly tell you to shut your whining because there are people dying out there.
I concur. There are more important things to worry about like: who is getting plastic surgery; whether the Kardashian sisters are impregnated; sex tapes by beauty contest losers; what parties Paris Hilton and Britney are attending; and Dancing with the Stars (who are those people by the way?). Please keep fighting over who is filling what time slots; be glad your sorry asses have a job. It would be a terrible shame if all of you worthless “comedians” and I use that term loosely have to actually get a job and work for a living. Conan, you suck – come on seriously? Jay, you have a long and distinguished history on TV; following in the foot steps of Johnny. He would be very disappointed in your shinanagans. I’m boycotting all you turds…..
Sorry Anonymous@8:20pm – Leno’s “long and distinguished career” started with him forcing Carson out and stealing the Tonight Show out from under the man Carson promised it to, Letterman. Johnny was already disappointed in Leno’s shenanigans, which is why he refused to appear on the Tonight Show post-retirement–though he did pay a few visits to Letterman’s new show.
Leno was fine with handing the show over to O’Brien when they inked the deal back in 2004. This was no sudden coup d’etat by Conan; this was an arrangement made to avoid a repeat of the Leno/Letterman debacle. That said, hanging onto Leno was a good move on NBC’s part, but giving him an identical show earlier in the evening was just self-sabotage.
Well said Honestly.
You, my friend, are an ass. You perpetuate the long-standing nonsense that all of us goofy folks in the midwest are all overweight fools with no idea what entertainment is! We are the ones who decide whether or not a show is worth watching or not. There is an entire country between L.A. and New York. And as far as we are concerned, you people matter less to us than we matter to you. I am personally sick and tired of you people on both the east and west coasts thinking you are so much better than us. It offends me, and I would love nothing more than to see both coasts fall into the damned ocean. Speaking of being ashamed… you know.. i’m not even going to further reiterate… you, just like the rest of the coastal ilk, are completely ignorant of nothing more than your immediate surroundings. Piss off.
Love,
Jeremy In Kentucky.
P.S. Conan, you are a genius. Kimmel, that Leno interview was pure brilliance. And Leno, just quit. Your so called comedy hasnt been relevant since the late 80′s. And I will, and have, continue to go after Limbaugh until the day I die. Although his fat assed pill popping, hate spewing, hell-spawned ass will go way before me.
I agree this has been reduced to bitch slapping and stupidity, and it is now the norm for a corp. exe. to drive it’s company into the wall at full speed to sell it off…look at Chrysler, home depot…. idiots who want to play god and get what they can will find a huge dog named karma finding them soon…….. look out you overpaid (including sports arena) whiners… reality is a cold bite comming
“People are dying, and you’re fighting over the most inconsequential bullshit imaginable.”
Says the person who took the time to write one of the longest replies here to said inconsequential bullshit.
Lose the self-righteousness, board monkey.
Show me proof of your donation, and I’ll show you mine. If you ever lose your job and complain once about it, I hope someone makes you well aware of the bad things that are happening in the world, whatever they may be at the time. Karma sure is a B,and you’re a D(ouche)at best.
Giving your opinions on late night show hosts doesn’t help the cause either. You lost that battle when you called all of us assholes.
Sincerely,
Brett, College Student
Isn’t it funny how only Harvard guys get work in this town. No wonder the films are so bad!
Okay, sure, while this rivalry from their days at Harvard wasn’t exactly covered up, it’s clear that somebody sympathetic to the Conan camp brought it up. I’m a fan of Conan, but I do think it’s worth pointing out that bringing this up *now* is somewhat questionable timing.
However, that said . . .
Zucker has to step down from NBC. Entirely. This is now an it-doesn’t-matter-who-started-it thing, it’s simply clear from all of the ample evidence that Zucker has no ability whatsoever to look at anything involving Lenogate with anything even remotely resembling objectivity. He’s been doing Leno no favors all along by showing such spitefulness to Conan — now we’re reminded why.
But let’s look at this objectively for a moment:
Lenogate destroyed NBC’s primetime lineup, its late night lineup *and* the ratings of the local affilates’ late news programs. All of these decisions have Zucker ultimately, directly to blame.
First, Leno complains that he’s had only four months to develop That Lenogate Show while Conan had seven months on The Tonight Show. The problem is that Leno’s complaint is specious and he knows it.
the simple fact of the matter is that while Conan has had only seven months to start to develop his version of The Tonight Show, Leno had eighteen months to develop The Tonight Show after he was given the show in 1992. Leno was floundering in the ratings until the Dancing Itos and Hugh Grant and all that. So, in reality, Leno had nearly three times the amount of time to develop his version of The Tonight Show than Conan has had to develop his.
Conan has never had a show at 10pm. 10pm and 11:35pm are two radically different timeslots with different expectations from well, everybody. The threshold for success in primetime always has been and always will be much higher than it ever will be for late night, even considering how much of a cash cow all of the late night shows are. So Leno is comparing apples and oranges.
Lenogate airs during prime time, where a lot of producers of a lot of cancelled scripted shows across all of the networks over the past 60 years would have *killed* to have their shows air for four months. The Book of Daniel and Journeyman just to name two. So having had four months on the air to prove himself, Leno’s complaint is, frankly, whining.
Second, regarding Zucker’s asinine attempt to move Jay to 11:35 and Conan to 12:05: I live in one of the central flyover states and I think it’s clear to virtually everybody that the *only* reason that any provision in Conan’s contract that allows NBC to move it to 12:05 is meant to cover only temporary but multi-day bumps for special sporting events like tennis coverage and the Olympics. These bumps are and always have been pre-empts, they’ve never ever been meant to be, much less interpreted as, moving the show to a new timeslot (ie: a permanent change). Thus, taking into consideration these occasional pre-empts are, in fact, exceptions, The Tonight Show is *explicitly* an 11:35pm show. Not implicitly, *explicitly.* Since the show has had the same 11:30/11:35 timeslot for sixty years, The Tonight Show is simply a synonym for “The Show That Airs on NBC Right After Your Late Local News.” The Tonight Show is explicitly a synonym for 11:35pm.
And, c’mon, the whole reason that The Tonight Show is always presented as “The Tonight Show with Jonny Carson” and “. . . with Jay Leon” and “. . . with Conan O’Brien” is not so that the host has his name in the title. As we have seen with “Lenogate” — excuse me, “The Jay Leno Show,” and with, well, practically every other talk show in existence, the host’s name is going to be in the title. What getting The Tonight Show part of the title means is that you’re getting the 11:35pm timeslot, you’re getting the leading timeslot in late night, have the highest rank in late night.
If NBC tries to argue against this fact, it’s being disingenuous and worse, it’s devaluing its history and to some extent, shareholder value in the network by devaluing both the show and Conan just to accomodate a very spoiled friend of the network’s boss.
Third, regarding Zucker’s (reported) specious argument that Conan let him down at 11:35pm given the show’s low ratings: The fact of the matter is that ratings for the late night shows have always been just as directly affected by the ratings for the 10pm shows as the late night local news has been. It’s a proven fact that when 10pm shows suck, the ratings go down on the local news shows that follow and as a direct result of the local news shows having lower ratings, the late night shows have local ratings. It’s like a hurricane moving from the beach into the first five miles of land. The neighborhoods surrounding the beach get slammed just as much as the beach does.
In short: Conan’s ratings have sucked since the season began *because* Lenogate’s ratings have sucked. Conan’s version of The Tonight Show was always going to have taken a bit of a hit because a) he’s a new host for the timeslot and b) his sensibility is similar to Letterman’s, so they have a bit more overlap of audience than Leno did with Letterman. This was always to have be expected because, by virtue of the fact that Conan is two decades younger than Letterman and fifteen-ish years younger than Leno, the entire purpose of promoting Conan to the rank of host of The Tonight Show was to have him comfortably in place in the show whenever Letterman finally decides to retire. At this point, that may be as soon as 2012. Now, if they stick with Jay rather than with Conan, for however long Jay lasts — five or six years maybe? — they’ll have to spend a lot of time cultivating a newcomer to take over the 11:35pm timeslot. Meanwhile, Letterman’s replacement will get a few years head-start and wherever Conan were to land, he’ll get a few years headstart and, well, Conan might (and should) inherit CBS’s Late Show timeslot, so NBC could (and should) be facing a juggernaut on at least one other network that could instead be their own juggernaut *if* Leno steps down. Which may take making Zucker step down.
As even other current NBC programming execs have noted in public, NBC has to retrench and rebuild their schedule — a schedule that, I might add, that Leno, Zucker and Ben Silverman shattered with varying levels of, to be charitable, less than intelligent decisions. One exec, Gaspin, already forced Zucker to look at NBC’s need to restructure for the longterm and cancel Lenogate. I think that Zucker needs to take a look at the longterm again and realize that, regardless of how likable Jay may be in person, there’s only long-term damage, not benefit, to returning him to late night in any capacity. Because, even ignoring the political hit that Leno and Zucker and NBC are taking over this debacle, Leno has no significant future in late night, a couple of years or so, maybe five. While Conan has two decades, more than half of his career, left to go.
In that context, it’s probably not wise for NBC to allow NBC’s future in late night, The Tonight Show’s fate and Conan’s status at NBC to all be determined either in whole or in part by someone who once had Conan arrested and who clearly still holds a grudge against him.
— Rob
Well said!
Well said Rob
Yes, Rob. Well said! And Leno never had to compete directly against his predecessor… Zucker knew, or should have known, that Leno fans would watch him and the ratings would be split.
The problem with with American business is, when these silver spoon C.E.O.S don’t perform, there are no consequences. Any other employee would have been out on his ass long ago.
Very thoughtful, and well-said, Rob. Thanks for a well thought and written comment.
Harvard? That figures. They’re both thin-skinned Ivy League pricks who specialize in getting other Harvard Men jobs they can’t handle. How many “Harvard Men” are on Conan’s writing staff, I wonder.
Hey Readers/Commenters, where did you go to college? Do you think Jeff or Conan would hire you?
To The Best and the Brightest — Whatever Conan’s faults, the idea of suggesting that he only hires Harvard Lampoon alumni is off the mark. Andy Richter went to Columbia College in Chicago. Robert Smigel, Conan’s first head writer, was a Cornell drop out. Marsh McCall, the second head writer, went to Stanford, and he got on the show by submitting a packet over the transom. The current head writer, Mike Sweeney, who is ultra smart and ultra nice, went to Rutgers-Newark for his bachelor’s and Fordham University for law school.
Conan also helped a lot of other non-Ivy Leaguers get onto television. Some of the people that Late Night helped promote include Dan Cronin; Victor Varnado; and the Upright Citizens Brigade people (Amy Poehler, Matt Walsh, Ian Roberts; Matt Besser; Horatio Sanz). Because the UCB people had the money to support their improv school, and they went on to funnel their students onto TV, Conan is really the comedy grandfather of a lot of the UCB alumni who now work on the Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert shows. To my knowledge, none of those people went to an Ivy League college.
@ The Best and the Brightest – Why so angry?
Seriously though, there’s a lot of bitterness I’m reading.
I agree with this. While I like Conan (liked him better on his last show where he had more freedom to be himself), I do sometimes find this Ivy-League humor off-putting. The best writing, esp comedy, comes from outsiders and not the elite. Conan’s stand with not taking the later time-slot is coming off as prima-dona stuff. And it’s affecting hundred plus crew on his show! There’s nothing funny about that.
Also… this prank of his wh set Zucker off was not funny nor clever.
Look, I’m on the side of talent, but esp in these times, all these GUYS seem to be whining! We need more diversity in late-night and these guys are extremely fortunate to be there in the first place! There’s a lot of funny people out there –
“So what’s to glean from this Harvard history lesson? Yes, Jeff Zucker was a thin-skinned prick who didn’t understand comedy or know how to handle creatives even back then.”
And Conan O’Brien has NEVER been funny.
Bet you leaned back in your chair and folded your arms behind your head with a satisfied smile after you dropped that opinion-bomb.
Breaking News from the Crimson.
Circa 1983.
“To the Editors of The Crimson:
Mr. Zucker overly flatters himself and demonstrates a conceit that does not conform to the facts. ”
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1983/3/18/provincialism-pbto-the-editors-of-the/
Wait, was he actually ARRESTED? Or did the cops make him return the papers?
Now this is entertainment. Coco standing up for all creatives.
On to the miniseries (HBO) – it’s going to be KILLER -
Zucker – Paul Giamatti, Turtle from Entourage…
Jay Leno – CGI
Conan – ?
Nikki Finke – just a manicured hand and a cel phone
Howard Stern as himself, as the oracle who predicted it all
*scratches head*
Are you really putting Paul Giamatti in the same category as Turtle from Entourage? Just wanna make sure I am reading this right…
Conan – Pee Wee Herman