UPDATES Worst Network Pilot Season For Women?
My recent post asking whether this was the worst network pilot season for women writers and showrunners provoked a lot of controversy. I asked Neely Swanson to expand for Deadline/Hollywood on her recent essay about it. She is the former SVP of Development for David E. Kelley Productions, and presently is an adjunct professor at the USC School of Cinematic Arts in the writing division. She teaches “The Entertainment Industry Seminar.” Neely also writes a blog about big and small sceen writers at www.nomeanerplace.com.
I received several emails this past week pointing out the scarcity of women writers on the recent pilot pickups. At a cursory glance it is easy to jump on the bandwagon decrying the lack of diversity among the “creator” ranks, not to mention showrunners and writing staffs, but this was a subject worth pursuing in a bit more depth. Nikki Finke sent a missile to the broadside of various network heads about what was being called “the worst year in a decade for female writers and showrunners.”
Based on announced pilot pickups and using Studio System and the Trades, I made a list of all the new pilots that had been ordered to production as of February 1 for the four major broadcast networks, as well as the credited writers, the production studio and the intended network. Of the 66 pilots I documented, 13 pilots had at least one female writer as part of the “created by” team; however, of those 66 pilots, only 7 of them were written entirely by women. You can do the math yourself, but this works out to a high of 20% involvement by women when writing alone and/or with men; and just 11% when written by women without male participation. A closer look at the all the names will reveal one writer of Hispanic origin, three Asian-Americans and an entire absence of African American writers,.
The WGAW, as part of their diversity program, instituted a “Writer Access Project” to try to draw attention to underrepresented groups – considered to be “minority writers and writers with disabilities; women writers; writers age 55 and over; and gay and lesbian writers.” Their proactive response…a contest? Why is there no outcry? This isn’t a glass ceiling, it’s a White Boys’ Club brick wall. Showrunners often staff their shows with friends they can trust, even if those friends aren’t the best writers available, and since the vast majority of showrunners are men, so are their friends, and therefore so are their staffs.
But who is it that’s picking these pilots for production? Studio and network executives, of course. And who are these studio and network executives? Who has the power? It might surprise you. Network Chairmen are overwhelmingly male; there are no women within those ranks. Network and Studio Presidents, however, are almost evenly split with 4 men and 3 women. As far as creative executives with a title of Vice President or above, the tale becomes more interesting and perplexing because the vast majority of these executives are women, 42 female creative execs compared to 28 male executives. Is it possible that women are discriminating against women?
An article in the June 24, 2009 New York Times by Patricia Cohen entitled “Rethinking Gender Bias in Theater” may have pinpointed what is happening in television as well. A research study had been conducted in an effort to find out whether women playwrights were under represented on stages across America and the answer was yes. What was more interesting was why. Women artistic directors and literary mangers, the people who chose the plays to present, discriminated against women playwrights. Emily Glassberg Sands, a Princeton Economics student, “conducted separate studies to analyze this problem. One study considered the playwrights themselves. Artistic directors of theater companies have maintained that no discrimination exists, rather that good scripts by women are in short supply.” This she discovered was true – there was a shortage of good scripts by women compared to the number by men. There are twice as many male playwrights as female which accounts for some of the discrepancy. This may also be the case in television as there are far more male writers than female (usually for the reasons elaborated above).
In another study, Ms. Sands “sent identical scripts to artistic directors and literary managers around the country. The only difference was that half named a man as the writer (for example, Michael Walker), while half named a woman (i.e., Mary Walker).” When female artistic directors and literary managers judged the scripts, Mary’s scripts “received significantly worse ratings in terms of quality, economic prospects and audience response than Michael’s.” When judged by male artistic directors and literary managers the scripts got equal ratings.
The question for television then becomes: are women fighting both the Boys’ Club and prejudice within the ranks of those who do the choosing? The Princeton study certainly brings up more questions than answers.
But one thing is for sure. Whether it’s 11% or 20% something is clearly wrong and needs to be fixed. Ladies in your office suites, are you listening?
After posting this article on the Baseline Studio System blog site, I received several interesting comments, one of which was from a former showrunner who implied that women were receiving more than their fair share of staffing slots. He went on to say, “Here’s the reality. If you have 7 writing slots, there will be roughly 400 writers to read. Of those 400, only 50 will be women. I know this sounds crazy… but there simply are LESS women applying for writing jobs than men. Do some math on this. Of the 7 slots available, at least 3 will be women. In many cases, 4, but we’ll assume 3. That means there are 50 women applying for 3 positions and 350 men applying for 4 positions. The chances of getting a writing job on staff as a woman are 6%. The chances of getting a writing job as a man are 1.1%. This is not me being sexist… this is simply math. But consider the proportions. The proportions of applicants for writing jobs are actually IN LINE with the proportions of people who are getting pilots picked up. So I ask this… which practice is unfair? The one that favors women? Or the one that favors correct math in the applicant pool?”
Certainly judging by his numbers, women comprise only 8% of the job pool, so therefore 12% representation on pilots is more than fair and he should be hiring at most one woman to fill his available writing slots.
Somewhere there is a disconnect. In analyzing the 06/07 season, I read 234 submissions from 219 writers of which 78 or 36% were women (part of a team or writing alone). In using the above reasoning, 3 women (36% of the pool) would have been the right number to fill the 7 open slots. Women fared worse in the 07/08 season but not as bad as the former showrunner would have us believe. Of the 161 writers that I read that season, 40 were women, representing 25% of the pool which would equate to 2 women eligible for the 7 slots. Was he just unlucky in the submissions he received? Apparently so. I think it’s interesting to note that about 40% of the students coming out of BFA and MFA programs in filmic writing at USC are women. No one is asking anyone to “favor” women; we are asking that they get a fair representation in the pool.
More interesting, however, was the comment from Julia Jordan who was involved in the original study cited by The New York Times. She wrote: “As the instigator of the Glassberg Sands study and having sat with it and Emily Sands for some time, I need to clarify. Ms. Cohen’s short article did not fully encompass the research and has led to some regrettable confusion. In Emily G. Sands research there is a bit more information to analyze than presented here. The respondents to the audit study rated the artistic quality of the scripts to be equal whether or not they believed them to be written by women. Where the discrimination came in was when the respondents were asked questions about the discrimination of others. They believed the scripts would be less successful out in the world, that top talent would have less interest in them, that they would earn less money and were less likely to be supported by others in the industry. THEREFORE the scripts were deemed to be of lesser value. The female respondents BELIEVE that work by women will be discriminated against and will therefore hurt their own economic standing and or that of their company and so do not promote or produce it in great numbers.
This comment began a conversation and I wrote back to her: “In laying out my article the way that I did, I intended the facts to speak for themselves. I hope I didn’t significantly distort your work because the premise you speak of is, I believe, in play in television as well. First, I don’t think that the women (and as you noticed, female execs far out number men) are consciously aware that they are discriminating and second, I believe the same thing is in play — that the women feel they will be more harshly judged for having favored a woman, or more importantly that they feel that the woman writer’s work will not hold up as well and then the exec will be harshly judged.
To which Julia responded, “I didn’t feel that you distorted it at all. I’m just taking every opportunity to clarify because people tend to jump to “women beware women” with very little provocation. If we can get the pressure on to establish that the audiences don’t have bias, which I believe will hold true across the board, then men and women may change their behavior, consciously. It is so interesting to me the idea of an object’s gender. They have it in other languages obviously. We don’t think in those terms. But writers creating dramatic stories do create human characters and therefore gender. The audience doesn’t know us from Adam, but they become emotionally involved (hopefully) with our characters and their gender is part of the relationship. Theater has a long LONG history of major leading ladies. It seems Hollywood is maybe now beginning to rediscover them and their emotional resonance with the audience and therefore their economic power. I’ve found that when women understand the study fully they are more receptive to the information, otherwise they recoil. And the happy accident with men is that when they find that women are also biased against women they are more open as well. We had a nice bump up in NY in our major theaters. We went from 16% of productions written by women last year to 40% this year. The publicity does help, immensely.”
I mentioned this study and its possible correlation to women writers in television to a very good friend, a woman producer, who asked if I thought this was a case of “women hating women.” I said that I didn’t really think so but that it was more likely an unconscious bias, one that could be ameliorated if it was brought to their attention. It is truly amazing how quickly perceptions were changed or rather improved in the theater world. Alas, I don’t believe it will ever reach that stage of enlightenment in television, but I do believe they can be improved.
Julia believed “the jump in productions was a response to the push for consciousness that we had in the press last year. I don’t believe it will hold unless we continue to keep them conscious, especially of the huge success the female written plays are having. I have more hope for TV and film than you. Out there you seem to have more of a bottom line mentality, and when there is a way to PROVE that you are delivering, women tend to do extremely well. Granted tv and film are collaborative and the test you are taking isn’t you and you alone in a room, lack of resources support and talent obviously affect the results. But… We learn by observation. It will be a rolling cumulative process. A few more productions, a few more successes, a few more observe and invest in a few more women and on and on. But it will take past our lifetimes without a big kick. So, more publicity, more shame and more economic studies! People read them and talk about them because they are interesting. How the brain works is interesting. How it chooses what is good and what is bad is largely independent of the object it is choosing or not… What doesn’t seem to work for us is what they like to call “complaining.” We don’t need to. We can simply present the evidence.”
Although nicely expressed, I felt her take was overly optimistic. But, we’ll see. I can only hope that a dialog has been started and that enough people with the power to change the status quo are listening (or reading).
Editor-in-Chief Nikki Finke - tip her here.
I received several emails this past week pointing out the scarcity of women writers on the recent pilot pickups. At a cursory glance it is easy to jump on the bandwagon decrying the lack of diversity among the “creator” ranks, not to mention showrunners and writing staffs, but this was a subject worth pursuing in a bit more depth. Nikki Finke sent a missile to the broadside of various network heads about what was being called “the worst year in a decade for female writers and showrunners.”






Good work from the WGAW Diversity Program.
The problem is one of attitude and arrogance. When I was repped at CAA, I told my agents what shows I wanted to work on and as we went down the list, several times my agent (a woman) said things along the lines of, “They’ve already got two women on staff, so won’t be looking to hire another.” s if being a woman was my only qualification.
When I met with an exec at Fox,he said, “We’re big fans. Are there any shows you’d like to work on.” I told him 24 was the only show on Fox that I watched, and would love to be on staff, to which he replied, “24 won’t hire a woman. They had one and it didn’t work out. Any others?”
(Yes, an officer of a publicly traded company looked me in the eyes and said I couldn’t even interview for a job because I’m female. One of my biggest regrets is not leaving that meeting and calling a lawyer, but I was afraid I’d never work again. Silly me, if I’d sued, I’d never have to work again.)
That’s the problem, though. If they hired one woman and it didn’t work out, they think all women can’t write. Wish they felt this way about white guys. That would open hundreds of doors. Can you imagine what The Simpsons staff would look like if someone said, “We had a white guy once, but he just wasn’t funny, so we’re probably not going that route again.” Those are the kinds of things that are said about women and minorities every day.
Want to see real discrimination? Check out the Warner’s approved writers list. If you’re not on it, you can’t work there. Period. And chances are, if you have black or brown skin, or if you lack a penis, you won’t be on it.
The quality of the writing has less to do with success now than ever.
Which is why the writing often stinks.
Warners TV has a Don’t Employee list alright. It is a list of all the writers and directors you can’t hire for your show. It is called THE LIST.
I have held it in my own two hands. They make a new one every year.
It is based on the personal preferences of the people who run WBTV.
I am surprised no one has printed it. If a director goes too long on his days he is on it for sure. But it is the law over there when hiring a staff.
To Woman Working Writer: If it’s any consolation (I’m sure it isn’t) I was told 24 wouldn’t even read women writers before the show ever aired. It wasn’t that they had one that didn’t work out – I sincerely doubt they ever had one. I wonder if NOW could ever file a class action suit?
It seems the first hurdle is the agencies. Has anyone asked them what’s going on? I know that I’ve had my films and scripts recommended to them a number of times, they won’t look at them. So we’re not being rejected, sometimes we’re never even being considered. A simple first step would be for the agency heads to tell their employees to read a certain percentage of women writers.
A favorite quote that I think more fully explains what is happening:
“What is bad faith when it comes to equality?”
“To act in a way that is both sexist and racist; to maintain one’s class privilege; it is only necessary to act in the customary, ordinary, usual, even polite manner. Nonetheless I doubt that any of us who does so is totally without the knowledge that something is wrong. To slide into decisions without allowing oneself to realise that one’s making any; to feel dimly that one is enjoying advantages without trying to become clearly aware of what those advantages are (and who hasn’t got them); to accept mystifications because they’re customary and comfortable; cooking one’s mental books to congratulate oneself on traditional behaviour as if it were actively moral behaviour; to know that one doesn’t know; to prefer not to know; to defend one’s status as already knowing with half-sincere, half-selfish passion as “objectivity” – This great, fuzzy area of human ingenuity is what Jean Paul Sartre calls bad faith. When spelled out the techniques used to maintain bad faith look morally atrocious and appallingly silly. That is because they are morally atrocious and appallingly silly. But this only shows when one spells them out, i.e. becomes aware of them. Hence this one effort among many to do just that.”
Russ, J (1984) How To Suppress Women’s Writing, London: The Women’s Press
HelenofPeel, you nailed it on the head.
I don’t care who writes it as long as it’s not ANOTHER legal or medical show. I’m so tired of television being dominated by doctors, lawyers and cops. I don’t even watch network t.v. anymore. Instead, I went out and created something I do want to watch….and yes, I’m a female.
In looking at the profiles posted on Studio System and IMDB-Pro, in recognizing the lack of writers of color who have high writing profiles, in looking at the previous credits of the writers of those scripts, and in recognizing many of the names, I drew what I believe to be a fairly logical conclusion that none of the writers were African American. If my methods bypassed a person of color, I apologize.
Here’s an even larger question, given that 70% of consumer purchase decisions are made by the women of a household, why aren’t networks eagerly seeking projects that have strong appeal for women 18 to 49?
I would imagine that women might have a good idea what appeals to women, but beyond that, why is the demographic that’s always being chased by netoworks is males 18 to 49?
The common wisdom that males don’t have brand loyalty and that’s why they should be chased has never been proven with long term market research.
The notion that women, who tend to be socialized to be zero sum equation thinkers (as opposed to team players) don’t support and mentor other women to become powerful (i.e. hit showrunners) makes more sense to me. Back in the days of mega women showrunners like Linda Bloodworth Thomason or Diane English, it was male network execs that greenlit those women’s shows.
If you are a female network exec who helps greenlight a show created by a woman, you are potentially creating someone more powerful than yourself, and if you are a zero sum equation thinker, that will never do.
You’re incorrect on a number of issues. The number usually cited is 80% of household purchasing decisions made by women, a figure that is laughably high and reflects the living patterns of 1950, not today’s high level of divorce, chaotic cohabitation, and delayed marriage. For example, Food Network has at least half male viewership, yet remains very female oriented. Cook’s Illustrated went from 17% male readership to 51% in the past decade.
If anything, men are UNDERSERVED in media, particularly TV. TV remains a female-gay ghetto, with female programming execs as Ed Bernero admitted in his interview right here on Deadline Hollywood.
Networks chase WOMEN VIEWERS to the exclusion of men: ABC has no show that would even remotely skew male, Fox has at best the Simpsons and 24, NBC at best “Chuck,” and CBS “NUMB3RS.” Particularly the CBS “crime-time” shows are built on female viewership, according to Bernero (and as showrunner of Criminal Minds presumably he’s seen his show’s Nielsen breakdowns).
Moreover, networks declining viewership as population increases, something that happened back in the early 1980′s, before cable, before FOX! stems from ignoring half the population: MEN.
Males 18-49 have basically fled TV, the WSJ and other outlets covered the whole hue and cry back in 2003 when Nielsen changed its coverage techniques and found a huge drop in male viewing. Do you honestly think that men would watch feminized soap operas like “Lost” or “Heroes” or “Mercy” or reality stuff like “Fattest Loser” or American Idol?
Where is a show like “the A-Team” designed solely around male viewers? Heck even a show like “Chuck” has to shovel in stupid soapy love triangles just to make female viewers happy, since they make up more than half the audience (my guess based on ads running during broadcast).
The networks chase women TOO MUCH. NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, and CW are all gay-female ghettos, as far as content goes. The few shows that are male-oriented reside on USA: Burn Notice, Psych. There are so few of them they are like White NFL Wide Receivers, you know both of them by name.
Women are under-represented in Writing just for the same reason as Blacks are: RISK.
Writing (you should know) is a risky business. As a WGA member, it’s a good bet that you can go YEARS without income, particularly early in your career, and rely on other income and family support to help you. Writing for TV is like coaching, high risk, high reward at the top, a long climb where you don’t make much money. Pete Carroll spent years living in crummy houses with a bunch of other assistant coaches, relying on family and wife’s income to advance. This is why White Men who can go years without much real income, relying on a social network of family to support them, dominate TV writing, Coaching, and Olympic Swimming.
Think back on your career, all those low points. Can you see someone without both a huge appetite for risk (going years without making money) and a big support network making it, no matter how talented?
No.
You can have all the outreach you want, all the discrimination against White male writers, and you can’t change the fundamentals: women dislike big risks in careers, and Black writers generally have smaller social networks. There are plenty of White guys who get selected out too, lacking a wide social network and the ability to eat Ramen noodles for six years, but there are just more White guys around. This being a majority White nation (~ 66% according the US Census Bureau, excluding Hispanic-White, guys like Mark Sanchez).
The ONLY change would be broadening the industry so that a LOT of serial shows get made, distributed on the Internet, served cheap with ads, so much so that the demand for writers is so BIG that those without the money/support (i.e. the Simpsons famed Harvard Mafia, or Conan’s Harvard Mafia) can get work right away and earn a career right off the bat. Making writing less risky.
Since that would mean generally, FAR LESS MONEY AT THE TOP** for WGA “winners” who are show-runners or elite writers, with high reputations and awards and proven-money-making track records, this will never happen.
So all the rants about “diversity” and not enough women/Blacks etc is just BS.
**Same general pool of money for production costs spread out among more projects, means folks at the top get less.
Whiskey, you blowhard, I noticed in your boringly bigoted rant that you even brought up the coaching issue for blacks. Are you fucking kidding me, throwback?
In Whiskey’s comment, I see ideas and reasoning. In yours, I see bitter vitriol and insults. Who’s the throwback again? Oh, wait, it’s ok to lambaste him- he’s probably a white male.
CBS doesn’t have a gay character on their network. It might as well be World Wide Wrestling. Neither does Fox. NBC and ABC have turned to much more male themed development. CBS has a very macho development slate.
You seem out of touch and yet you pretend to know a lot. Dangerous.
“whiskey” is just short of a troll. Ignore him.
Women tend to be more jealous of each other than men are.
Old Man’s Tale…
Quit using stereotypes and old cultural baggage to justify the unjustifiable…
The writer of the article touched on one very important aspect about women working in the industry, whether writers or not. And that is, women are far more discriminating about other women and do not understand the ‘old boy network’ and what that means. Women in high places are more nervous about their position than men, they distrust other women. Rather than helping their women friends as they perceive that they will be judged weak for hiring friends, they would preferably hire a man. A man newly promoted will put his own team together, usually friends and previous colleagues who will be loyal and play the game. Women do not do this so it is very difficult to move up the ranks if the person above you won’t hire you. Short answer women don’t help women. The worse thing that can happen is to have women friends in high places, they would rather cut off their arm than help or hire you. Ladies it is time to play the game.
You need new friends.
My women friends helped me a lot!
So did my male friends.
That’s part of the reason why they’re my friends.
But given your post, I think it’s more your fault.
So the Princeton study establishes that men are impartial when judging scripts regardless of the sex of the person on the cover sheet…good, I can stop paying attention to this tedious whinefest wondering why we don’t enforce race and sex quotas so that talentless hacks have a shot too.
Sorry, but it’s simple…
Women are included in diversity programs. Diversity programs provide ENTRY LEVEL (staff writer) writing positions. Since, women and minorities, in those cases, break in for reasons OTHER THAN TALENT, they are less likely to move up the ranks to showrunner and sell pilots.
While no system can ever be 100% merit-based, diversity programs promote racism and hurt the prospects of talented people.
Given that this article complains about gender/race bias by the networks at the top, it should be calling for an end to it at the bottom.
You shouldn’t generalize. I would restate what you by adding the word many or some…
You make it sound like ALL women and people of color go through diversity programs which is not true and you know it.
Either you’re a bigot or are really insentive/dismissive to those you’re referring
to.
Why don’t we just talk about the white-guy program that takes up 90% of the jobs. Hacks. That’s why network TV sucks. Same hacks writing the same hacky stuff.
Thank you so much for posting about this Nikki, and for posting Neely’s incisive essay.
The first step is just talking about it, period, which you’re helping us do. Many female TV writers like me fear talking about sexism in this industry because we don’t want to look like whiners, or like we can’t make it on our own merits, or like we resent men, or like we’d be difficult to work with. So we keep quiet and even subconsciously adopt a sort of Stockholm Syndrome where we start to identify with the system — the more we learn to work within the reality of the sexism in the industry and never, ever talk about it, the more we identify with it and the less inclined we are to be outraged.
That’s why the first step is talking about it.
I’m a female who had the same experience with “24″ as the woman above. Although I’ve worked at high levels on other testosterone-driven shows and adore Jack Bauer, the “24″ boys club would not consider or even read me. They wouldn’t even read me. They just knew I was wrong for the show because of my gender. The benign hostility toward women is killing me.
So what about the men they didn’t read? What was the reasoning there? Or are you going to tell me that they read everything submitted by men? Open your mind. There were probably other factors involved.
The WGAw has the Writers Access Project. It’s fairly new. It’s a solid attempt to get people read by showrunners who might not otherwise find the scripts of these experienced and talented writers. It’s not a contest, but a competition. One judged by fellow WGA members who have lots of experience. It’s not perfect because that judging is of course subjective. But it helped get some people staffed last year. Which should be celebrated.
women will never succeed as writers as long as 99% of their writing output and 100% of their professional conversations consist of whining about being discriminated against for being women
Um…waiting for the collapse…are you serious?
99% of female writing output is NOT about being discriminated against. In fact, I’d say it’s disproportionately NON representative of the female plight. I am a female feature writer– a successful one! shocker!– and I have never written a single character who whines about being discriminated against, or even points out that she is being discriminated against, nor have I “whined” about being discriminated against in a professional conversation, much less a private one. Mostly that is because I haven’t felt discriminated against and don’t identify as a downtrodden minority in my professional life. But if I ever did feel unfairly slighted due to my gender, I would be afraid of pointing that out, for fear of being identified as a minority who might “make waves.” This article and the comments following it are making me think again– and in fact inspiring me to DO something about the way female writers are treated.
And to Whiskey– I don’t understand where you got the idea that Blacks and Women have less robust support networks and are more risk-averse than white men. Huh? P L E A S E.
If women are so risk-averse, why are there so many actresses? There are just as many women who want to be writers and who are willing to eat ramen noodles. I cannot believe someone in this day and age would get on this board and assert that the underrepresentation of minorities in the top ranks is THEIR fault because they are less risk averse!!!!
So you’re saying, basically, that it IS the white man’s fault. Gee, that was easy. Where can I sign up for someone else to blame for my failures? Why the double standard here? If a woman or a black person is successful, I would say that it’s because they are talented, work hard, and got lucky, like everyone else who is successful. Do you expect me to believe that if they aren’t successful it must be someone else’s fault?
Why don’t you talk about the program that gives 90% of the jobs to white males who suck. that program is not based on merit it’s based on guys hiring their friends. They create shows, the shows suck and they hire their friends to write on them.
Why is the WGA so quiet in the face of these and all the other statistics?
If 26% of the Guild that is female is not protected by the Guild then why are women members at all?
Please don’t take this the wrong way: you can *generally* ascertain a person’s gender by their name. The same with race (Goldstein, Rodriguez, Jackson?). But how does one ascertain a writer’s sexual preference? Just curious.
There are fewer women writers because women give up after decades of being shut out, or, look at their odds of success and choose to do something a little less soul shattering with their lives. It’s almost impossible to improve as a writer if you are never given a chance to write professionally or to make the connections needed to develop a career.
Most symphonies now do blind auditions. The musician is behind a curtain. The number of women playing in music professionally have increased dramatically. When auditions are conducted in this matter routinely more women than men advance to final rounds. Before blind auditions were introduced women were virtually shut out. Now they often make up more than fifty per cent of orchestras and symphonies.
http://www.princeton.edu/pr/pwb/01/0212/7b.shtml
In a town based entirely on who you know, you can’t hide your gender or race. Hollywood is impoverished artistically as a result.
I interviewed for a staff writer position on a successful sitcom that was headlined by and named after its female star. In the meeting I was told point blank by the creator/exec producer that he ‘wasn’t sure he wanted to hire a female for his writing staff’. Because this meeting had been very casual and lighthearted up until that point, I joking inquired why the hell not, citing the lead character, and various other female costars on the show, pointing out that my experience and POV might help in crafting storylines and jokes. I was then lectured about the Friends writing staff getting sued, and told that ‘things get colorful’ when the staff is spitballing, etc, and that they didn’t want to have to worry about feeling restricted when pitching ideas. I felt like an ass for reassuring him and trying to make light of the whole thing. I wanted the job, and knew that calling him out for that comment would prevent it. I didn’t get the offer, and yes, it did go to a male writer.
Fun fact: I’m not sure they knew I was a woman before I was invited in for my meeting because my first name doesn’t indicate one way or the other.
Out Guild is run by men who do not care. They have never made women or minorities a priority. When we strike we strike for male rights. They don’t give a crap about us.
Thanks for this Nikki.
The WGA doesn’t care about discrimination towards its members. Or sexism. It cares about getting more work for the white boys club. It supports discriminatory hiring. It supports entire shows that refuse to hire women as writers.
I went to both NYU (undergrad) and Columbia (grad) film schools and all of my male film teachers were always very encouraging and supportive, while my female film teachers looked at me as if I was already competition (except for one, ONE supportive female teacher during a total of 7 years of film school.) One of my not-so-nice female teachers even asked me to write a script for her to produce, so I wrote all 120 pages and then she claimed she wrote it- so I took legal action, but ANYWAYS…
After diving into the “real world”, every female film director, producer or writer I have assisted has treated me like competition/CRAP instead of being the inspiring mentor I have always wanted. While initially offering to read my scripts, in reality they never, not ONCE, ever read a page of my work.
This attitude needs to change. Instead of being threatened by each other, why can’t we just support one another? Doesn’t this sound like a better formula for overcoming this seemingly never ending crusade?
Although scholarly and solid, I find this article misses the larger perspective. If you started a female run production network online, to produce and showcase good pilots written by women, you would still find you had downtime…because the server providers are male and sometimes biased females. If you ran your own server for this network you would find yourself running into advertising problems, not strictly because of the advertisers who often do like to aid female enterprise, but because small groups of biased people can influence an advertiser. There is a very good article on Bullying and the rise of it in the workplace across gender lines as studied by the ILO, a division of the UN.
Decision making in Television is influenced by “tiers” of biased groups. For instance, I recently had an ex-CA tell me that job was for 23 year old men because of their strength. JJ Abrams in his commentary on Star Trek mentioned they needed the birth scene to get women (their wives) into the theater. Both of these statements are learned biases. I’ve yet to see a strong 23 year old man give birth!
As a women who has been blacklisted for over 2 decades because of an ambition to be the first in the world to accomplish something, I have witnessed that women do hate other women. They manifest it in different ways then men. Men will attempt to kill or cripple you. I’ve had cars jump the sidewalk to deliberately run me down and one choking/attempted homicide by men, amongst other violence. But, women want to deprive you of the right to work and drive you into poverty so you don’t compete with their men or make them appear bad at their jobs. In the long term they are viciously more deceptive.
Technically, I like solutions and not debates. The solution I believe is a women run, but also male populated, online network.
Yet, it would have to be testosterone driven and not a so called “women’s network” to drive the big money needed for production, fx, unions…
Over the years, I have been told on more than one occasion, “Oh, we’re not reading women right now.” Can you even imagine someone getting away with saying out loud, “Oh, we’re not reading black people right now. We’re not reading gays right now.” On that subject, my agent has been asked many times about me, “Is she a black or Asian woman? We’re looking to fill that spot.” During the strike, I heard a showrunner explain in front of me that he had not hired any women on a staff of 12, pretty much because it hadn’t even occurred to him.
Of course the sexism exists. And most of the execs and showrunners aren’t bothering to cover it up, so I don’t understand how people can defend it on here.