The decision to dump Megan Fox from Transformers 3 underscores the perils of slamming your franchise and filmmakers if you’re a thesp. Promoting Wall Street 2 in Cannes, LaBeouf hasn’t been as recklessly critical as his now former co-star. But Hollywood executives I talked to feel that Shia was disrespectful when he proclaimed publicly (and truthfully) that Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull basically sucked even though he starred in it. The 23-year-old did take some responsibility (“The actor’s job is to make it come alive and make it work, and I couldn’t do it. So that’s my fault”). But he told reporters that “when you drop the ball, you drop the ball… You can blame it on the writer and you can blame it on Steven. I’ll probably get a call. But he needs to hear this…”
Is this kid now seriously lecturing a directing legend who gave him a shot at movie stardom in DreamWorks’ Disturbia when LaBeouf was known for little more than playing the goofy younger brother in the Disney Channel series Even Stevens? Yes, even though Spielberg is still involved with Transformers 3. And that’s when Whoopi Goldberg on The View yesterday took Shia to the woodshed. Whoopi, who worked with Spielberg on The Color Purple, said: “Really, Shia. Really? How come you [don't] just make a phone call to Steven and discuss it. There’s no class. If he had an issue with Steven, he needed to call Steven. You don’t go public with that. You don’t do it with anybody. It’s rude. The guy gave you a job. And jobs are hard to come by.”
Indeed, actors lucky enough to sign on for tentpoles make a bargain that could hardly be called Faustian. They’re overpaid to star in silly movies whose global grosses allow the actors to make films they really care about. What they’re not supposed to do in return for all that moolah is trash those hits and their directors. Modern-day movie stars like Will Smith, Leonardo DiCaprio, Sandra Bullock, Tom Hanks, Julia Roberts, Denzel Washington, Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, and Tom Cruise all follow that golden rule. And while George Clooney admitted his short stint as Batman was a failure, he blamed himself and not helmer Joel Schumacher. Executives today have little sympathy for Megan Fox, who bombed in Jennifer’s Body and now has a lot riding on Jonah Hex. And the unfortunate fact, be it sexism or whatever, is that Megan who just plays the girlfriend in Transformers didn’t get a pass and Shia who plays the lead did. But those suits also feel LaBeouf’s comments could potentially hurt his career. Sure, Shia’s and Megan’s candor helps their street cred and makes great copy for the media. And controversy can sell movie tickets. But violating Hollywood protocol is a dangerous game to play. Megan learned that today. Will Shia learn it tomorrow?






I think the difference between Fox and LeBouf might be getting overlooked here. Shia commented on a “film”. Fox made a personal attack on Bay himself. That’s a huge difference. Although I’m sure Spielberg might have felt a little sting by the comment, Shia never said that Speilberg was a bad director, person, tyrant, egomaniac etc. the way Fox did.
Shia has been his own person from the time he’s been an actor, coming into TV auditions at age 12 and adding ad-libs like “fuck” to his readings…it’s just who he is and it comes across on screen, along with the fact he’s just a very cool and kind guy with charisma and a decent degree of natural talent. Sure, he could become another ass-kisser running around with their tail between their legs, but I sure hope not. And who on this planet gives a damn what Whoopi Goldberg has on her vacuous, addled mind, about anything?
“. . . her vacuous, addled mind.” Hee hee.
I think you just found the perfect title for Whoopi’s autobiography.
Honey, Whoopi has more class in one of her dreads than in your whole Shia-ass-kissing body
How is he cool for adding “fuck” to a TV audition when you can’t even say that on TV? Sounds more like a stupid kid who thinks he can act tough but is over compensating for his shortcomings to me.
I’m sorry, but as you pointed out yourself, he was asked a question and answered TRUTHFULLY. Yes, jobs are hard to come by but is anyone (including the studio execs you spoke with) claiming that what he said was INACCURATE? Honestly, he sounded more like a frustrated fan than a disgruntled employee.
Do I think he meant to be disrespectful? No…I simply think he felt safe in being honest because of the personal nature of his relationship with the people involved. It could be entirely possible that people on the outside are underestimating his relationship with Spielberg. Do I think his comments can easily be misconstrued as disrespectful? Definitely. It was obvious from the moment I read his interview that he was eventually going to have to offer some form of apology, pay a public penance, and learn that he could never be that honest again because Hollywood only has room for ass kissers. It will be interesting to see whether or not the industry forgives him. But he’s been smart enough to package himself in a favorable enough way to get him this far. Unlike Megan Fox, he’s not stupid enough to make the same mistake twice.
Anyone remember the time Eddie Murphy dissed “Best Defense”?
Quoting Wikipedia: “When he hosted SNL, Murphy joined the chorus of those bashing Best Defense, calling it “the worst movie in the history of everything”
I also remember him saying something like “there was no way I was going to do that movie, and then they showed me how much they would pay me and I was like WHA–? Where do I show up?!”
He was credited as “Strategic Guest Star”.
So this isn’t particularly new. It’s rare and refreshing, but not new.
Ummmm…didn’t you guys here? Megan Fox says says SHE quit Transformers and wasn’t fire. The poor little idiot really seems to think that, given her history of big fibs, people are actually going to believe her. I don’t know which is more egotistical – telling people you didn’t get fired or expecting people to believe you.
The appalling rudeness wasn’t so much him saying the movie sucked. It was “He needs to hear this.” Really, little lad? You think it’s appropriate to discuss publicly what Spielberg “needs to hear”? If he needed to hear something from you, why didn’t you just call him? Or did he “need” to hear it via a thousand internet stories because in your considered judgment it was time for a public intervention? God, he sounds like every 22-year-old on earth who joins AA and suddenly thinks he not only has his life solved but everyone else’s. A I’ve thought this kind was unbearably cocky ever since the first time I saw him on Project Greenlight, but he is accelerating to unbearable at lightning speed.
Totally agree…if you didn’t think the movie turned out so well..that’s OK. To say publicly it didn’t turn out as well as you hoped…no big deal. The movie had its moment in theaters two years ago. But to say “he needs to hear this”…that is one ballsy, arrogant, and just plain dumb comment. Steven Speilberg needs to hear this! Puhleeze! Shia, as appealing a screen presence as you are, please have a little respect for the filmmaker who gave you your big break. Absolutely no professional and/or social graces. Carey Mulligan, get out while you can!
I’m not a Shia fan but HE WAS RIGHT. Every word. That’s honesty.
INDY 4 was a massive disappointment. The only people who liked it seemed like they wanted to love it so badly, they convinced themselves it wasn’t so bad.
It was. It was even worse than the Star Wars prequels (much worse actually).
How can you say Shia got a free pass and Megan didn’t? First of all, what Shia and Megan said and did were completely different regardless of how much everyone wants to lump them together. Shia kept it professional and criticized the final product, and didn’t exactly say anything we didn’t already know from watching both of the movies you referred to. And he shouldered personal responsibility. On the other hand, Megan criticized the process of making the movie–repeatedly saying it wasn’t about acting and how terrible Michael Bay was to work for. She also made it personal by saying Bay was socially awkward, etc. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!!!!
I forgot to mention that Megan got plenty of free passes…she just used them all up. Anyone catch her recent Allure interview? It’s like she goes out of her way to take pot shots at Bay.
Is Emile Hirsch available to take over the lead?
what happened to speaking truth to power. spielberg hasn’t made a decent movie in fifteen years, but for some reason everyone kowtows to his ‘legendary’ talents as if he is beyond criticism. truly great artists know when they suck it up, acknowledge it, tell sycophants to ***k off and try again. but ‘the steven’ has no sense of self awareness anymore beyond his carefully crafted image and ‘legendary’ reputation. good for shia. keep keeping it real. bad for nikki for sucking up.
ABSOLUTE TRUTH! Steven hasn’t made a good, let alone great, film in a long time. Great ideas, some great scenes, but in the end disappointment. It’s a fact. Even Saving Private Ryan, with the tacked on begining and ending rubbish. He fails to follow these great story ideas through to their logcal, tragic ends.
Aye, “the Steven” and “the George” have stunk up Hollywood for the past 15+ years. They have both made some damned good money but no damned good films.
I’m more likely to see a film with Megan Fox starring and a film starring Shia LeBeouf too. Granted, I will not go see the Transformers films, but seeing Fox talk straight and not like all the others makes me think she may be a real actress. LeBeouf is a real actor, a very good one, who’s career has been hurt by Spielberg and his suits. He could have become a Daniel Day-Lewis, and now he’ll have to settle for a Matt Damon.
They’re both crappy little actors. Her shelf life is over. His expiration date is coming up soon.
I don’t think Steven needed to be reminded what a piece of shit Indy 4 was. And the shudder that was felt by Harrison Ford after seeing it, leads me to believe he’ll never don that fedora again.
Whoopi,Who is she to call the actor rude? I remember how she spoke about Disney when Sister Act became a hit. Rude was in the tone. I worked with her on Sister Act 2. She was one mean broad. She had her clique of people and then everyone else. She was mean. Her disdain for Bill Duke the director should have been kept between them. She went out of her way to be mean. I like how she runs to defend Steven and you call Steven, you tell Steven..Gall rude and mean..
Thank you. Everyone here is bashing Shia… but who the hell is Whoopi Goldberg to lecture anyone on class and manners? Really?! She knows nothing of them, so needs to get off her high horse.
Shia should be applauded for this. There was absoultely nothing — NOTHING — disrespectful of what he said concerning the movie. To some it may seem like a bitter pill for those who were involved in it or as the famous saying goes “never bite the hand that feeds you” but its the truth dammit! The movie simply sucked on all levels. The acting, the screenplay, the editing, the photography, I’ll even go as far and say the visual efx were just shockingly sub par for the talent involved. It sounds like a cliche but I’ve never seen so many people in collective unison slam their popcorn on the floor in disappointment, myself included. If you’re a fan of the Indy series and you think its the best movie ever then 1) You were never a fan to begin with. 2) You have no taste.
I just can’t fathom the notion that Spielberg would be that delusional in thinking he made a worthy addition to a truly beloved franchise. I refuse to believe that. Deep down inside within the recesses of his heart he knows he made a shit flick. Lucas I can believe, because the man simply wants to make toys. Story. Dialogue. Abstract concepts to him at best.
If anything I want Spielberg to return so he can atone for the last effort. And this time he should tell George to just stay at the ranch, cut a check and shut the fuck up.
You go Shia. Stand your ground. Can’t wait for Wall Street.
I agree, this is the first Spielberg movie where I was like, old man’s losing it. This is a **** flick.
Who cares about the opinions of actors and actresses? They’re a dime a dozen and easily interchangeable. In a few years, we won’t even remember Shia as another actor will take his place.
CRYSTAL SKULL was bad. That’s why it underperformed. Shia said what the public has already confirmed with weaker than anticipated ticket sales. Why would that bruise Steven’s ego? The pubiuc’s rebuke was a rebuke. Shia’s comment was merely a mea culpa. Good for him.
By now, Spielberg’s ass has Calluses from all the ass kissing he had given to him the last 30 years. He’s a big boy with nothing to prove. If he can’t say “yeah, we made a movie, it made a ton of money, and it sucked” well then, he is just a baby billionaire. South Park had it right with that film.
Shia LaBeouf is an idiot, and his comments to Spielberg prove it. I was once on a flight with him from London to LA. He was yelling profanities at his mother so loudly in the Virgin lounge at Heathrow, an older gentleman came over to him and asked him to lower his voice as he was offending his wife. La Beouf proceeded to say to the man “WAS I TALKING TO YOU”? The tirade continued nine hours later in the customs line in LA as he simulated masturbation and again yelled at his mother when she asked him to stop.
This is not about pissing off (or on) St. Steven of Spielberg, this is about respecting the ticket-buying public’s ability to place blame. Unless the actor is the green-lighting element — and the definition of a franchise is that they aren’t — nobody holds him accountable for the product. Shia is just an actor, and if he feels he somehow has to extricate himself from a disappointing film, that’s giving himself way too much credit for its creation (and c’mon, “Crystal Skull” wasn’t THAT bad; have you ever seen “The Life Aquatic”?).
People work hard to make movies, even bad ones. Everybody gets stuck in poo; the longer one’s career, the more poo comes along. It can’t be helped. The great stars are those to whom it doesn’t stick.
I once interviewed a young actor who had made two dreadfully bad movies: his previous one, and the one I was interviewing him about. Of the first he said, “Of course you know it’s a bad film at the time, but you don’t say that, you say it’s the best film you’ve ever seen.” Then I asked him what he thought of his new movie. He smiled and said, “It’s the best film I’ve ever seen.”
If you have talent, grace, or class, in the end, history remembers only the shinola.
Come on!!! How can you compare that piece of Sh++ with the life aquatic. Last Indiana Jones movie was crap, the life aquatic is awesome!
Who gives a flying fsck what Whoopi Goldberg thinks or says. How does she or anyone else know what Shia may have said to Spielberg in private.
I agree with Mouse and Martin, he may have broken an unwritten rule but he said what everyone knows and a lot of people probably have much more respect for him now.
Nikki you state stars are overpaid to star in tentpoles, but considering how much the two Transformer movies have made its probably a very small percentage of the overall profits. Casting the wrong person for a roll can kill a tentpole so to imply they aren’t worth what they are making is pretty silly don’t ja think?
Yes, if anyone knows that a job in Hollywood is hard to come by, it’s Whoopi Goldberg.
What Mr. Fleming also doesn’t mention is the rest of what Shia LaBeouf said in this apparently disrespectful diatribe, and when you hear it, you’ll see that he’s not being a snotty little brat. C’mon, Mike? Out of context quotes? You’re better than this.
In the article from LA Times’ 24 Frames he also says (first in reference to both Indiana Jones 4 and Wall Street 2 and then elaborating on the former):
“I feel like I dropped the ball on the legacy that people loved and cherished…If I was going to do it twice, my career was over. So this was fight-or-flight for me.
I think the audience is pretty intelligent. I think they know when you’ve made [crap]. And I think if you don’t acknowledge it, then why do they trust you the next time you’re promoting a movie. “We [Harrison Ford and LaBeouf] had major discussions. He wasn’t happy with it either. Look, the movie could have been updated. There was a reason it wasn’t universally accepted.
You get to monkey-swinging and things like that and you can blame it on the writer and you can blame it on Steven [Spielberg, who directed]. But the actor’s job is to make it come alive and make it work, and I couldn’t do it. So that’s my fault. Simple.
I’ll probably get a call. But he needs to hear this. I love him. I love Steven. I have a relationship with Steven that supersedes our business work. And believe me, I talk to him often enough to know that I’m not out of line. And I would never disrespect the man. I think he’s a genius, and he’s given me my whole life. He’s done so much great work that there’s no need for him to feel vulnerable about one film. But when you drop the ball you drop the ball.”
Yeah, what an ungrateful little bastard for being so honest about his work and doing the same thing film critics do every damn day. It’s refreshing to see an actor (especially one so young) hold his work to such high esteem and have the courage to voice criticism of it publicly. He doesn’t even bash Spielberg, but just says the film had problems, and he takes most of the blame for his own follies.
Old Man River called, Mr. Fleming, he wants his grumpy “back in my day” demeanor back.
Thanks for posting this. La Boeuf’s comments were butchered.
I don’t think it’s a big deal. Shia was right in what he said, it’s been awhile since the movie came out, and he at least took some of the blame.
I love Spielberg and Lucas, but at this point in their careers they are iconic figures who seem to have surrounded themselves with ‘yes’ men. Shia was right: they need to hear it.
And keep in mind: the way Megan bashed Bay was to call him a Hitler. I think that’s a big difference.
did any of these hollywood executives even read the whole interview?? because i know i can’t possibly be the only one who picked up on the lengthy paragraph shia spent explaining how much he loved and respected spielberg versus the two sentences he said about “dropping the ball.” or the part where he said they had already had discussions concerning the movie’s flaws.
in re-reading the article, to me it sounds like they’ve started working on indy 5 and were once again heading down a slippery slope. hence the infamous “he needs to hear this” quote. i say this because although shia has said some controversial things in the past, he has always been extremely calculated and smart about his career. it seems out of character for him to jeopardize his career/personal relationship with spielberg in one inconsequential 5 minute interview with the la times, unless he knows something we obviously don’t. but again, i have no idea what’s going on behind closed doors.
but on a slight tangent–what i really wanna know is what exactly broke the camel’s back in the fox-bay relationship.
You’re probably right about this being a calculated move that relates to an in-development Indy V … especially when the “I feel like I dropped the ball on the legacy that people loved and cherished. If I was going to do it twice, my career was over. So this was fight-or-flight for me.” quote is interpreted in that light.