More than 140 of the industry’s top film producers
have already endorsed this new program that is aimed at “increasing the integrity and credibility of the Produced By credit”. I think it’s absolutely ridiculous along with the “p.g.a” mark. It’s going to be meaningless to Hollywood and moviegoers because this is strictly an internal Producers Guild Of America matter. Yes it’s aimed at making sure a do-nothing producer doesn’t get credit on a film. But even that is a subjective process considering all the managers, childhood friends, wives, and sons masquerading as producers these days and discerning who’s real and who’s not is a sliperry slope. 
I’m told the new “certification program” will follow the guidelines established by the Producers Code of Credits (PCOC) that was initiated in 2004 consisting of a consistent set of job definitions and arbitration process for evaluating the fulfillment of those job functions, which will now comprise the key criteria for the use of the p.g.a. mark in motion pictures. The Producers Guild’s new initiative stipulates that a producer’s name, when credited as “Produced By” in movies, will be followed by the p.g.a. “This mark will only be given to those producers who request it and who have been certified through the Guild’s arbitration process; PGA membership is not a requirement,” a PGA source tells me. “Producers will receive on-screen verification of their work, while companies will be free to recognize other individuals with the ‘Produced By’ credit as they deem appropriate.” The first p.g.a. marks are expected to be on films next year if studios decide to implement them. I say, Don’t. Nevertheless, the PGA are now demanding that the studios/companies provide it wth a Notice of Producing Credits — “just as they do during the awards process” — but now no later than the commencement of post-production. There are no immediate plans for the Producers’ Mark program to be expanded to television and New Media productions.
“Six years after the Producers Guild first codified what a producer does, our Producers Code of Credits has become the standard to define the job. The code not only helps define who should be honored with a Producers Guild Award, an Oscar or Golden Globe, but also gives everyone in the industry a way to determine what qualifies someone to hold the title of producer on a movie,” PGA Co-Presidents Hawk Koch and Mark Gordon said in a statement. “We were determined to work to further protect the producing credits. We’re proud to be a part of the collaborative effort within the Guild’s leadership ranks and the broader entertainment community to implement the groundbreaking Producers’ Mark program, which serves to recognize deserving storytellers for the work they have done. We look forward to working with our industry friends and colleagues to implement this process swiftly across all films, as well as an honorable and important distinction for producers.”
“For years, the role of the producer has been devalued because nearly anyone could negotiate a credit. This is something Producers Guild members have fought passionately to change,” said PGA Executive Director Vance Van Petten. “The new p.g.a. mark is an innovative solution to a longstanding industry dilemma of awarding credits. The PGA leadership and the industry are embracing the Producers Mark as a way to ensure the protection of the Produced By credit and the credibility and integrity of the producer’s work.”
Read the PGA’s full letter about the Producers Mark program here.
Editor-in-Chief Nikki Finke - tip her here.


Why not? There are way too many producer credits as is, and it completely devalues the credit. I believe they’re trying to implement something similar to what the WGA has in place. I don’t see how this is a bad thing, but obviously I have an open ear if you can come up with some good arguments.
Bet Don Murphy and Dan Farah amongst a few others are crying in their soup right about now…
so, how much will this cost?
new income stream?
practical problem: all of the ‘producers’ will insist on participating in every aspect of the film, so they can get their pga ‘mark’, and the real producers will be unbelievably hampered by them.
If all of those working producers who signed the letter think it’s a good idea, then there must be a need for it. The article says it is going to be “meaningless” but it appears to have meaning for some of the biggest names in town who signed their name.
If this kind of thing puts an addled, worthless bottom feeder like Don Murphy out of business then SIGN ME UP!
What a scam. The so-called Producers “Guild” continues to try to steal real estate from the other, real, Guilds. Most recently trying to say who is and isn’t a writer-producer in television, for the Emmys. It’s a scandal.
Hmmm. Nikki says it’s a bad idea, Spielberg and Bruckheimer says it’s ok…Who should I side with?
This credit system will make it harder to raise money since the investors won’t like the idea of a devalued ‘Produced By’ credit. People who invest millions make films happen, they deserve producer credits whether or not they appear on set.
There’s a word for people who give millions of dollars to fund movies. It’s “financiers.” And there are plenty of credits available for them… “Presented By” and “Executive Producer” for two.
Producing is a skill, like writing, like directing, like editing, and so on. We’d think it was outrageous if a film gave up a “Directed by” credit for money. Yet it’s producers who are supposed to “take one for the team” and share their credit with someone whose only qualification for being involved with a film is being fabulously wealthy.
On the upside, maybe I won’t have to sit through 80 producer credits when I watch Boardwalk Empire every week.
Hey Scott,
I agree, but the long and distinguished list of producers for Boardwalk Empire set the tone for the show….long with a distinguished look…but so far, no character or story plot has grabbed my attention like in the Sopranos or other HBO shows.
Boardwalk Empire, so far, is like the best wrapped most disappointing gift under the Christmas tree.
What a shame that this list of producers could not deliver a great show especially with the budgets for production.
Ooops, maybe, a huge part of these costs went to the many producers involved. It’s too complex for a person like me to understand.
But, the PGA (not really even a guild) does…go figure!
Stop your yappin Tom and Scott. There are very few producers on that show compared to the 82 other shows out there.
The Soprano’s took its sweet time to take wing and so did Mad Men. Boardwalk was overhyped. That was the problem. We didn’t get to discover it. We were told it was the biggest thing since sliced bread and you are now creating the backlash.
Boardwalk Empire is wonderful. Deep, exciting, surprising and picking up the pace every week. The last two episodes were damn good. The tone and style are becoming clear as are the characters.
I think you are out of work, disgruntled and pissed at the hype and frankly a little jealous. I am too. But I am not going to piss on my brethren when they are doing good work. That is kind of douchey.
Writers and Producers act like democrats and eat their young. They destroy themselves internally with squabling.
Tom sorry you are bitter but this is about the PGA not a show you didn’t get hired on.
This has nothing to do with being bitter nor is it about not getting hired for a job. In fact, that has never been a problem.
It is the fact that the PGA has let this get out of hand for years. Now, they want to put the cap back on the bottle, and attempt to fix a problem that has long plagued the ‘producer’ credit credibility.
Until there is some real credibility to the title and function of producers, I do not believe this will happen. You can write the rules, but you must lead by example…not legislation.
Remember, the PGA was stripped long ago of of its real guild status.
Let’s see if these actions have any impact. At the end of the day, it is about the money. If it were not, production would not have left Hollywood to shoot elsewhere…and, guess what, the producers get tax breaks.
So, please, do not lecture about what you think may provoke my comments. Mine are based upon the track history of the PGA in this effort to date.
I will be first to honor the PGA if it does put in place a valid system to address the ‘producer’ credit issue.
The operative word is ‘valid’.
Stop crying Scott. BE is a great show that was an enormous piece of work to produce. Sorry you didn’t the job.
Producers have integrity and credibility? Since when? Wow, that would really be a feat if the PGA could pull that off. I think on the feature side studios have learned that most producers are nothing more than used car salesmen and add little value. Guys like Rudin are the exception. Maybe there are one or two more like him… otherwise they are completely useless.
Perfect reflection on Hollywood. This happens in SAG also. The slimeballs who would have never gotten in if this was implemented on them, trying to make it more difficult for the up-and-comers, a position they were once in. Guess that’s Hollywood, make it and forget about your struggling friends. Aside from this, Nikki is right, this “process” is still subjective and I agree with rc; all this is going to cause more disputes and favor for a favor BS on getting your “mark.”
Well, at least you can’t buy producer credits on craigslist like SAG vouchers.
I’m just worried about young producers who come up with good material and get involved with big producers who then cast them aside (but endorse this document)… One needs to see
the details of ‘certification’.
More importantly, producers have no benefits, royalties etc and that is what this guild should focus on
instead.
Just for the record:
The details of certification are available in the Producers Guild’s Rules of Arbitration, on the PGA website. Just click the “Credits” tab.
Furthermore, those rules *explicitly* protect the credits of producers who are involuntarily removed from a production that they initiated. Such producers have to show: 1) That they originally optioned or developed the material; 2) That they were removed from the production involuntarily; 3) That the writers hired by that original producer retain some manner of writing credit, demonstrating the seminal importance of the original producer’s development work.
great…add more shit on the main titles of a film the audience needs to suffer through! Good work p.g.a.!
to producer
I agree a hundred percent – I’m in the guild and feel it’s very one-sided. Producers who find the material and develop it get shafted when one of the top 5% partner with them – they won’t share the responsibility or credit – and the only recourse is to not sell them the material or partner up in the first place but then where does it leave the rest of us trying get projects made? We have no choice if we want to get movies produced. So we partner up and get relevated to lesser credits not out of choice but because we do what’s best for getting the film made. That being said, some of the producers at the forefront of this are getting older – they better start mentoring those of us who have been thwarted time and again due to selfishness and ego. I’ve been pushed aside so many times and I’m the one who worked with the writer to develop a script and/or optioned a book or source material only to get relevated to the sidelines – the only help the PGA has given me when I’ve complained about this practice is to say “You can say No” or “Sh*t happens.” Seriously. What about protecting the rights of producers who are somewhere in the middle of the guild and not in the top 5%?
This Guild is completely useless. In fact it is not a Guild it is a club. Instead of working towards benefits, royalties and a pension plan they guys are worried about the size and meaning of their credit.
Come on. Give me a break. Pathetic.