EXCLUSIVE: Simon Cowell tells me that Fox has promised it will spend the same amount on the U.S. version of his The X Factor talent contest that the UK programme costs to produce – $2.4 million. Next year, Fox will broadcast it and American Idol in 2011 with Idol running from January to May, and The X Factor airing from September to December. Idol has been the biggest programme on American TV for the past 8 years, and is understood to contribute $200M-$300M to Fox network profits every year. So Cowell, 51, is feeling the pressure of matching that success. Meanwhile, the 7th UK cycle of his X Factor is costing ITV £50 million to make — but earns £72 million in revenue through a mixture of advertising (£50 million), sponsorship (£10 million), phone-line revenue (£5 million), the live tour (£5 million) and merchandise (£2 million). It is estimated that Simon Cowell’s production company Syco, co-producer Talkback Thames, and broadcaster ITV split the £22 million profits between them.
With a personal fortune estimated at £165 million, Cowell just signed his next £100 million 3-year deal to keep Got Talent and X Factor on UK TV. And I’ve learned that Cowell’s Syco also is developing a game show with links to the UK national lottery; the idea is to produce scratch cards that will let viewers join in at home for big cash prizes. Right now, it’s difficult to overemphasise how important The X Factor has become in the UK national consciousness because of he incessant chatter on radio, TV, and Fleet Street. I caught up with Cowell while he was preparing for Saturday night’s 2 1/2-hour show which peaked at 13.2 million viewers with a 51% audience share:
Deadline London: What changes are you going to make to the U.S. X Factor so that it’s different to the show we see over here?
Cowell: I said to everybody the other day, with the American show, just think blank sheet of paper. Don’t make any promises, don’t make any predictions. Go in with a blank sheet of paper right now. I can feel a change in the air. While everybody’s going left, we’re going to be going right.
DL: What do you mean, there’s a change in the air?
Cowell: Look, I’m not going to tell people in advance what we’re doing. When you’re making a reality show, you can’t even plan a week ahead now. So we’re hopefully going to be in sync with what’s happening in the States at the time. I like to try and make as many decisions as late as possible. What I will say is that it will be like nothing else you’ve seen before on American TV, I guarantee you that. There are a lot of surprises in store, there’s going to be a lot of surprises. But I’m going for it.
DL: How would you describe what the new show’s going to be like for U.S. viewers used to American Idol?
Cowell: Zero rules. Because I can’t bear rules. For instance, I’ve never liked the idea you have to be a certain age to be a pop star. I like the idea that anybody can enter, anybody can compete. And obviously the fact that groups can compete as well as individuals. They haven’t had that on American TV before. I thought long and hard about whether to bring the show over to America or not. The show’s done so well all over the world, and I think to myself ‘Is this room for one more show?’ What’s never happened in America before is a big talent show that runs up to Christmastime. The US show will run from September to December next year. We’re putting a lot of resources behind it. But the main thing is that we’re going to America because there’s a lot of talent in America and there’s a lot of people over the age of 30 who want to get to these shows as well. It should be a 14-year-old competing against a 50-year-old competing against the next ‘N Sync. That to me is an interesting show because it’s got a variety of contestants. And we are going to scour the whole country to make sure that the whole of America is aware of the show and is given the chance to audition in as many different places as possible.
DL: How much is the U.S. version going to cost to make?
Cowell: Each UK programme costs around $2.4 million to produce each week. When we spoke to Fox we needed their assurance they were going to back it financially. All the money goes on screen. It’s not about paying for celebrities; it’s about money going on screen so that it’s like nothing you’ve ever seen before on TV. Fox gave me its assurance that’s it’s backing the show all the way. We’re building a studio in Hollywood that’s going to seat 2,500 people. It’s going to look huge. It’s three times the size of the UK X Factor stage show.
DL: There’s been a lot of press speculation that you’ve already decided that Brit pop star Cheryl Cole, Pussycat Doll Nicole Scherzinger and even the UK’presenter Dermot O’Leary are definitely coming over to the U.S. version. What’s the truth?
Cowell: Genuinely, nobody has been booked for the show. The only person that’s been booked is me. We’re trying to keep it as open as possible. People approach me to be on it all the time. It’s not about booking well-known people it’s putting together a panel that hopefully Americans will relate to and like. There will be some surprises, genuinely some surprises.
DL: One name that I’m told you wanted for a judge was P Diddy. But he wasn’t interested because he didn’t have ownership of the show.
Cowell: No, he wasn’t in the mix. Even this week two people came forward totally out of the blue. It’s a great platform. You want them there for the right reason. When we started these shows, it wasn’t about the judges it was about the contestants. I’m trying to go back to basics here and say, “Hey look, this is a show that’s about giving as many people as possible a shot, giving them the best possible platform a shot.” It’s all about finding one person. I’ll give you one example: I was doing Idol one year and it was going okay and then Carrie Underwood walked in and I remember thinking, she’s going to win and she’s going to become the biggest-selling recording artist we’ve ever found. And I called it right. You’ve got to be alert to that. That’s why on the U.S. show, we’re going to tell the whole of America to turn up and audition.
DL: The UK X Factor and the U.S. X Factor are still both due to take place at the same time next Fall. What are you going to do? You can’t be in two places at the same time.
Cowell: You’re going to be surprised by what we’re going to announce. I’ve got a little plan.
DL: Will you be taking your core team with you over to the States or are you assembling a new team?
Cowell: Both. We’ve got new people on board and we’re taking some of our people from over here too.
DL: What can you tell me about the third show Syco’s planning for ITV after X Factor and Got Talent, your new game show?
Cowell: We haven’t sold the show yet and it’s one of those concepts that if I tell you about it, somebody else is going to come along and steal it. I have to be very careful about what I say in advance because the minute you announce something, somebody else comes along and pinches it. And I don’t like to hype these things – if they work, they work. I want the public to discover them for themselves.
DL: Ellis Watson, your Managing Director, has said Syco doesn’t want to become a TV producer like Endemol just churning out unscripted formats.
Cowell: But I do want to be like Endemol. If we’re half as successful as Endemol, I’ll be very very happy. What we do is that we’re very careful about taking anything out of development because there’s a lot of attention on these shows now. Broadcasters spend a fortune on them. The important thing is that the public likes it. When you’re used to the numbers we’ve had, we’ve got to be careful about what we do so we can repeat these sizes of audiences again. When we launched Got Talent, the first review I saw of it was the worst review I’ve ever seen in my life. And I really did worry about whether this was going to work or not. But we’d never hyped it in advance and the public, thank God, liked the show. When I first started doing these shows all I was concerned about was getting recording artists. Then about 2 or 3 years into it I realised I loved making TV. Everything we’ve got in development they’re shows that I love making. Honest to God, we never thought when we were starting out this was going to be a phenomenon. It was always about putting the money on screen and reinvesting in the show.
DL: But you’ve got a problem because you have to keep outdoing yourself each season in terms of production values.
Cowell: That’s why I keep telling the broadcasters, it’s not about us, it’s about making sure the audience likes the show more and more. That’s why we need more resources, because we need more people. It’s about throwing our weight behind what’s on screen, what do we need to make it more spectacular, more fun? It’s about bang, that’s the buzz. There are a lot of competition shows out there on TV. But I don’t look at the competition; it’s about respecting your audience.
DL: You’ll be running four shows simultaneously next year with the U.S. and UK versions of X Factor and Got Talent. You’ve spoken about having this tsunami of work hanging over you the whole time.
Cowell: And it’s not just America and Britain. China’s Got Talent exploded this year and South Asia’s becoming a big market for us. But I keep telling our team over and over again, forget the hype — it’s all about respecting the audience and looking after the contestants. That’s our job.

If Lord Blackshirt doesn’t let Fox screw it up, “Factor” should hit US TV like an a-bomb.
While this new UK season is the most “stage-managed” yet, in terms of an almost jury-rigged group of contestants, the show is still a shining jewel. Its combination of old-school Saturday night variety TV, its focus on the narrative that can be created by a long-form reality show, the two-levels of competition (singers and the judges/coaches), and the weekly appearance of a way more benevolent and paternal Simon Cowell than we normally see here on “Idol” all add up to the best reality TV show on the planet.
Hate to break it to Simon, but American game shows have to have rules – all the stuff that was put in place after the quiz show scandals.
In particular, there will be eligibility requirements that will begin with the exclusion of News Corp employees and families and employees of certain advertisers and their agencies.
nitpick much? you can’t possibly be that dumb to think that has absolutely anything to do with what he was talking about.
I just started watching “X-Factor: UK” online and I think the format of the show is superior to “American Idol”.
It’s more interesting to watch because not only is there drama with the contestants, there is drama with the judges because they are all battling to ensure their acts are successful. I really believe it’s going to be a success here in America. I just hope he is able to find good judges.
Nicole Scherzinger is a good choice and she can fill the former girl band singer who is insanely attractive position that Cheryl Cole currently fills in the UK. But who else can he get?
Either way, FOX is going to be in a good position this next Spring/Fall. Hopefully they’ll settle their disagreement with Cablevision by then…
First of all, his X Factor show is going to appear BEHIND AI is finished, in the summer, so there’s no competition there. His competition might be his own summer show AGT or Nigel’s dance show. He’s not on another competing network.
Second, the talent in the UK sucks big time. They haven’t discovered anybody who has become a “national” or international star, and he knows it, that’s why he’s over here. SusanBO is a train wreck. The woman can’t take the pressure of being in show business. It’s a young man/woman’s game.
Third he runs the risk of too many variety shows that look the same. Don’t you also think that having jimmy iovine(?) as a mentor for the AI’s is stealing a bit from X Factor?
Last, he talks about talent….but he lies….it’s about making more money. And he hasn’t scored yet with a big “star” except on American Idol, and he doesn’t own AI. Let’s see how well he does over here.
Susan Boyle wasn’t on X Factor.
You should learn about UK popular culture before you start making silly statements.
p.s. JLS, Burke and Lewis are massive in Europe. An area of 50 countries.
The definition of Internation Star isn’t somebody recognised in the United States.
These kind of comments, Sally, feed the common fallacy that Americans are ignorant and insular arseholes.
omg so youre saying all those talent shows arent ultimately about talent? that theyre about making money? oh my world is crashing down now!
RE: “Second, the talent in the UK sucks big time. They haven’t discovered anybody who has become a “national” or international star, and he knows it, that’s why he’s over here.”
Leona Lewis
To sally:
You need to do a lil more research, to say that X-factor has not produced any national/international talent? Leona Lewis is certainly an international star, and Alexandra Burke and JLS rule european radio, not to mention the other recording stars that clamor to get the sunday night guest performance slot which has pretty much garaunteed you the top of the chart the next week… X Factor is going to be huge!
Sally, Leona Lewis and Alexandra Burke are both successful X-Factor alumni. The US X-Factor will debut FALL 2011 not Summer. It starts in September and will have the benefit of launching with all the promo usually given to a Fall Launch. It will undoubtedly be promoted as Simon’s return to TV.
Finally, Susan Boyle was not from X-Factor. She is from the UK version of the “Got Talent” series. And her CD sold 9 million copies.
I can’t WAIT! X Factor already IS a big hit in the U.S. When it airs in the UK every week, THOUSANDS of American fans scour the internet, particularly YouTube, looking for the full episodes, or at least clips to see it. I wish they would air both the UK version AND the new U.S. version over here. The show has thousands of other international viewers looking for it on YT, too, from countries where it also does not air. My friends and I have been watching XF in New York every single year since it started. I hope they will bring Cheryl and Louis and Xtra Factor, too!
If Dermot O’Leary is presenting the show, I’m there!
“Sally in Chicago”, Leona Lewis was a pretty big discovery wasn’t she? Most Idol winners didn’t do very well, and the one that did Carrie Underwood, is almost unknown out side the USA, I’d never heard of her until I looked her up. So I would not say there is much different in the level of talent. They shows are largely made up of rejects and unmarketable people. Lets face it if you still can’t make it after hours of exposure of prime time TV, well what more is there to say.
The shows is basically the same as idol, with groups, the raison de etre of the show is basically so that Simon owns the copyright.
Difficult to see how two shows which are basically the same thing will manage, in the UK XFactor replaced Pop Idol, the equivalent of American idol, so the problem have two almost identical shows was avoided. will people appear on both shows or will the ‘talent’ be divided between them?
The current UK XFactor has already very controversially sent home the best act – Gamu, she may also be deported to Zimbabwe – which would be a tragedy. the remaining acts are pretty dire, the best of which being a second rate SuBo who by the way came from Britain’s Got Talent not XFactor, although granted almost the same show.
Simon is not in the USA for the talent, he is there for the money
the market is 5 times the UK market.
The should bring Louis Walsh over because Simon could not spot talent if a busload of it ran over him.
I hate Cheryl Cole since she sent Gamu out so I don’t care what happens to her.
So true about Cheryl. Last year I was all for her coming to America. But after Gamu-gate, she can stay home!
angry much?
We need X Factor in Canada.
As a runner up JLS sold over 1mil albums in the uk alone..in a country with a fifth of our population ide say that’s pretty impressive.
Bren- Kelly Clarkson is pretty successful but yeah the actual winners are a little watered down. Guys like Daughtry get voted off because the people had all the power. Everybody wanted to save a certain someone because everybody thought that everyone else was going to vote for Daughtry which they didnt and he got booted. X Factor has an intriguing concept that is not the same ho-hum idol season. X Factor will flourish if marketed correctly and with the right judges. The UK X Factor this season is alright granted I just see highlights. I think Matt Cardle could be a star over here much better than Lee Dewyze.
Cheryl Cole should not be on X Factor as she cannot sing. She is a decorative mannequin and Simon’s piece which is why he is shovingher down everyone’s throats ’til we are sick of her. He asks favoujrs from his mates in the bujsiness to say things like “have girl crush”, “Cheryl will make it big in USA”, etc from US stars like Rihanna, Usher, Will.i.am, Katy Perry and more,it’s ptronising for Skimon and Cheryl to think the public are such fools. She is nothing but a beautiful woman and nothjing else. She was part of Girls Aloud groujp, her best work as the other girls covered her very weak average voice. She is a racist and thugf and has a conviction. Can Cheryl Cole even get a work permit for USA or is she applying in another name? Her family have a lot of experieince of going to prison. She was accused of racisim long before Gamu. What youj see on the outside is not what is on the inside. She will flirt with Simon until she gets her USA X Factor job and the cash of course.
How about leona lewis. What a tard.
Bren in UK…. Carrie Underwood is the only AI contestant that “did Well”???? REALLY???? couple of names for you…. Kelly Clarskson…. Little known band called Daughtry…. Even Clay Aiken sold albums…. Josh Turner…. And most of these aren’t even people that WON Idol…..
Can Canadians audition for X Factor US?
thanks
Michele
Well if Simon says no rules, then I say absolutely!
The rules state… Eligible to work in the USA and Canadians are eligible to work there with a proper permit.
Can someone clarify?
Thank you.
Proper permit may be the catch…Michele
So true, he left us Canadians a loop hole. Maybe he did it on purpose
yes
I read with interest Simon Cowell’s claims that it doesnt matter how old you are, all are welcome to audition for the X factor; REALLY SIMON. My very talented sister auditioned in London, after hours of waiting and basically being herded around like cattle; she was given a number (shed got through the first stage) then a very young girl enquired of my sisters age, along with a very derogatory tone I might add. Upon learning she was 47 (she actually snickered)she was basically dismissed. My sister has been a vocalist since the age of 5, has a very professional demo and everywhere she sings gets a standing ovation (the last time being in Arizona) I understand not everybody can get through, thats just the music biz, but a little common respect would be nice and dare I say maybe a little honesty about ‘the reality’ of this type of show.