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SyFy is going back to the Battlestar Galactica well. After launching prequel Caprica, which is now airing the second part of its first season while awaiting word on a second-season pickup, the cable network has greenlighted a two-hour pilot for Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome or BGBC how it will probably be known in the Battlestar fan universe. The pilot, about the young years of Ensign William Adama, hails from Battlestar Galactica executive producer David Eick and Universal Cable Prods. and will involve CGI and virtual technology. Here is more from the network’s announcement:
Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome takes place in the 10th year of the first Cylon war. As the battle between humans and their creation, a sentient robotic race, rages across the 12 colonial worlds, a brash rookie viper pilot enters the fray. Ensign William Adama, barely in his 20’s and a recent Academy graduate, finds himself assigned to the newest battlestar in the Colonial fleet… the Galactica. The talented but hot-headed risk-taker soon finds himself leading a dangerous top secret mission that, if successful, will turn the tide of the decade long war in favor of the desperate fleet. “The ‘Galactica’ universe as re-imagined by Ron Moore and David Eick is rich with possibilities and backstory,” said SyFy’s Mark Stern. “We jumped at the chance to revisit the William Adama character and explore this exciting chapter in the BSG narrative which falls between the events of the original series and the prequel, ‘Caprica,’ currently airing on Syfy.”
“While maintaining the themes of politics, social propaganda, and the timeless question: what does it mean to be human? – ‘Blood & Chrome’ will also return us to the authentic, relentless depiction of combat and the agony and ecstasy of human-Cylon war, which was the hallmark of ‘Battlestar Galactica’s’ early seasons,” said Eick. Michael Taylor wrote the teleplay from a story by Eick, Taylor and Bradley Thompson & David Weddle.
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What an awesome name! Think the acronym factored in heavily.
It is great news, but the name rang ‘Blood & Sand’ to me.
Agreed, A. Someone tryin’ to copy-cat on another title’s success, maybe?…
BGBC is an abbreviation, not an acronym.
Actually, BGBC is and acronym. However, acronyms are just a specific type of abbreviation.
Whoops. Tag/spelling failure.
Let’s talk some more about the nuances of the English language. It’s such a sexy topic. And oh so interesting.
OMG who signed off on the title?
Isn’t Caprica bombing in the ratings? Why greenlight another BG series?
Probably because they still see BSG as a viable property, but Caprica is a completely different type of show that has alienated a lot of the old fans. Getting new series started with more of a focus on the war-movie-meets-space-opera focus of the reboot might not only save this iteration of the property but might actually help Caprica stay afloat (characters on one could show up on the other albeit older/younger, events in Caprica can lead to consequences in BaC, etc…)
Because some Galactica fans (one who is sitting in this chair) screams loudly at most episodes; “Where are the godsdamn Cylons!?”
I really, really, really want to love Caprica but it is just such a downer of a show. Not that BSG was sunshine and roses, but Caprica is very depressing and aimless. It looks phenomenal, the VFX are great.
However…WHERE ARE THE GODSDAMN CYLONS?
This sounds like part of Battlestar Galactica: Razor when Adama finds where they made one of the first hybrids.
Agreed. They should get the director that did Razor to do this one. Razor was awesome!!
Sounds like a much more interesting idea than Caprica which has become an unwatchable, turgid mess.
Oh enough already with BSG. Caprica has fallen apart in the ratings and the way the series ended was just an insult to the fans. Enough with BSG.
You’re right. Let’s kill this and put on more medical dramas. Or cop shows! Or shows about lawyers!
… or vampires… BSG with vampires… in 3D
BSG: BC does take place 2 years before those flashbacks ProMovieBlogger, because in those clips it said they were already like 4,571 days into war right when it ended which like 12 years… So if anything we can get a cool season or two of awesome battles while Caprica fleshes out the 6 years it took before the war started.
Caprica the series = 58 years before bsg pilot, cylon war ended 40 years prior to pilot, war was 12 years long, so it must’ve started 52 years before or 6 years after the start of Caprica pilot.
I think your detailed knowledge may be exactly the problem. It’s a complex world, with a complicated history. I wonder if at this point new viewers can really be brought into the story. That’s not a criticism–it’s a question.
And, of course, you have ridiculous people like me who are gritting their teeth because they read the comic book version of the first Cylon War and are whining that Caprica is heading in a direction that will likely make it so those events in the comics aren’t canon.
I laugh at myself.
I was hooked on Caprica entirely accidentally- I had no idea what BSG was before I saw it on Hulu when it started. Now that I’ve seen BSG, I like Caprica all the more, but it’s a very different show.
BCBG won’t be as easy to get into all on its own like Caprica was, but it should still be good.
Ronald D. Moore not involved? That’s worrisome.
Or helpful… depending on whether you were a fan of the first show, or would like to be a fan of the new one.
BSG had moments where it looked like it could have been a good show — unfortunately poor writing and pacing after the 2nd season killed its quality. Moore was a big part of that. With him gone, perhaps the writing will dramatically improve. I’d give this one a shot. I would not waste my time on it with Moore anywhere near it.
you frakkin kiddin me..
After Being Human airs, sy fy will realize they dont have to have everything spawn from BSG.
They have milked the battlestar franchise into the “rocky” zone..
Guys you need more than one good idea to run a successful network.
Jeff,
I think Ronald Moore brought the franchise into a “rocky” zone with that last season and especially that finale.
Cool! That’s – oh, wait just a frakking second… NO RON MOORE?!?
EPIC. FRAKKING. FAIL. (No offense to the other fine folks involved.)
And come to think of it, how does Universal feel about this? Aren’t they still developing a big screen Galactica reboot with Bryan Singer (like Star Trek)?
Hmmm…
John,
SyFy is owned by NBC Universal. And the article states that Universal Cable Prods. will be involved with the making of the new series. So it appears that Universal approves of BGBC, regardless of any plans for a movie version of the property.
Any and all shows get bogged down into muck when they ram the same old bag of tricks at you. I’m a musician/writer yet I’d like to see the musical montage burned at the stake. AND background music kept to a bare minimum. What ruined BSG for me was way too much religious cant & high heels in space. Strip it down to passionately delivered plotlines & exposition NOT “sexy” plodding. AND fast paced, explosive NOT exploding action.
The network exec said that they “jumped at the chance to revisit the character…” from RAZOR played by Nico Cortez. Yet, they are still not sure if they are going to use him again. Really? The guy that brought the character to life in the first place? No brainer. Boggles the mind.
Didn’t Ron Moore relentlessly pillorize Star Trek’s show runners for not listening to its fans when Enterprise got canceled? Didn’t he chide them for the stewardship of that franchise?
Et tu, Ron Moore? I don’t think Moore, Stern, Eick, et al., are listening to the fans and the ratings of Caprica show that. Moore, et al., are in fact doing exactly what killed Trek on TV. They are pushing the franchise in directions that interest them and not the viewers
The viewers want:
- An explanation of WTF was up with Starbuck.
- A better ending to BSG.
- More stories about the original crew.
I’m sure someone will say that Ron Moore isn’t directly connected to this new pilot, but let’s face it, he’s Ron Moore and he has a huge influence on the property.
Like I said: Et tu, Ron Moore?
Actually not every BSG fan needs a neatly tied up explanation or reason for what Starbuck was, nor do they think the finale of the show was entirely bad in it’s general conclusion.
Of course, fans of shows frequently don’t always want the same things – for example, I read one person talking about Caprica once say ‘let me know when they start building battlestars and then I’ll get interested’ – which seems to be to be someone who just wants space battles and explosions.
Fine, sure. But that’s not ‘interesting’ to all. Though they look nice when they do them.
Though at the time Moore was entirely correct about the problems afflicting Star Trek at that time.
I’m wondering if the concept of this new show isn’t actually to try and bolster Caprica so as to give fans who want battles and explosions something to please them, while others perhaps can watch Caprica instead. Though I’m sure that many would watch both anyway.
Although that stragegy does indeed run the serious risk of repeating the 1990s Star Trek: Voyager and Deep Space Nine co-existence problem. One show (DS9) was great but wobbled in it’s final year as well, the other (VOY) sucked totally from start to finish.
Maybe they shouldn’t have auctioned off all of the sets and props, many of which are now being showcased at Paul Allen’s Science Fiction Museum in Seattle.
Are they going to do the CIC and hangar bay all greenscreen now?
This is FANTASTIC news. Seriously, I am THRILLED to hear this. Caprica has been such a colossal fail that I couldn’t bear to watch it anymore, even though I was such a devoted fan of BSG.
The opportunity to see the cylon uprising from the beginning (vs. the final chapters in BSG) and to see the Galactica in her prime with the entire colonial fleet in action….yes, this has the potential to be really fraking good.
I just want SGA back…………in whatever format.
I wish SyFy would do that……….
And this time how about some really creative writing like they managed to do in season five in VEGAS and a few other instead of
fluff which I believe so many were.
What the Frack!! The only problem is that I know who the final four are and one of them grew up with Bill Odama. Ask me nicely and I’ll tell you who it is…
This is an awsome idea. Caprica was a good concept but the soap opera feel is antique. Syfy show must now be real, bloody , dark. I.e. SGU. Thoght, i did love the mafia aspect of the show. But a BSG show without vipers or battlestars isnt worthy enough.
WAIDaminit…”Blood & Chrome”??? Sounds like someone saw the new “Spartacus: Blood & Sand” and liked the title a little too much…
I think it’s important to point out that while Moore may or may not have been responsible for the supposed drop in quality in the second season, he was also responsible for the astounding first year and a half.
Moore is alleged to have left Caprica sometime after it began. He certainly hasn’t been a part of the second half. I think this is exactly why Caprica has not captured an audience early on, or certainly since it returned.
Blood and Chrome will bomb (I definitely won’t be watching it and Syfy will screw it up anyways…lol) out and won’t be any comparison to what Caprica could have potentially become. They still have so many issues about what happened before and leading up to the Cylon War, that needs to be addressed. They let Caprica get to the point of basically mass producing and some secretive shipping off of the cylons to the STO. Syfy only aired 13 episodes of Caprica counting the pilot. By the time they actually finish off the first season it would be almost 2 full years to accomplish this, and the whole time line of all of season one is only a couple to few months…lol. Round that out and it took Syfy 4 times as longer to air the series than the actual time line of the series… geesh. They never gave it a chance. We wanted to see BSG history and background.
All they accomplished so far was to get the cylons built. They haven’t even merged the avatar consciousnesses with the cylons yet, let alone show any social interactions of them with society except the unaired 5-8 minutes of it. That was mostly just a glimpse here and there, maybe in all 30 seconds of social interactions, on part of the cylons. Also they still have a great number of loose ends to the characters and story lines.
So what we end up with is jumping straight into a battle that has been going on for 10 years already. No chance of filling in any of the five year gap (before the war) of story lines and cylons receiving these consciousnesses let alone how it actually is accomplished and their initial reactions to this new way of life so-to-speak. Let alone their interactions with society and what leads them to actually revolt against mankind to begin with. How about their starting up of the human experiments to gain skins?? Ten years into this battle they have already been doing this for some time, at this point, secretly. Just because ‘The Husker” only saw this at the end of he war, doesn’t, mean it didn’t start long before that point. They already showed ZOE-A, as a forefront for season 2 (before it was cancelled, that is) of obtaining a skin body herself…lol. tell me they can keep that a secret for 10-15 years or so…lol. That is probably how the other cylons begin to want it themselves, but we will bever know that.
They would have to first came of reason as to why they wanted t to begin with and also gaining facilities to do this in secret. experiments don’t just happen over night, either lots of prep work figuring out where and how to start etc.
All this doesn’t even start to touch on the character aspect of loose ends. We also won’t even know William Adama actual background growing up. We got to see, what maybe 30 seconds of him when he was like 4-5 years old then instantly jump to him being about 18 – 20 years old. Big gap there. We actually didn’t get much of anything for background and what we did get was only half of it, as everything was just starting to come together, as a whole.
Syfy killed this show on purpose to make room for Blood and Chrome, not to replace a dieing show with it. Blood and Chrome will never come close to what Caprica could have been in actual story and BSG background. It’ll be basically a younger version of Adama, ut same basic BSG battling, without the sexy cylons. They’ll be the ugly 0005’s, which actually worse than the U-87’s, in my opinion. anyways here’s how Caprica’s demise actually went down.
Syfys Plan Of Not Airing Two BSG Prequels, May Have Caused Caprica’s Demise.
Syfy has already stated, in their only statement, since the word of Caprica’s cancellation and removal of the last five episodes, that they never had planned to air two BSG sequels, at the same time. Now Syfy decides it has another prequel to BSG, that they wish to produce and air, but they already have Caprica. What do they do? Well, first they need to get rid of Caprica.
They also want to make as much money as possible, while doing so. Next they abruptly change Caprica’s pre-scheduled air date from January 2011 to October 5, 2010, with less than a months notice and without proper promotion or advertising of this change.
Now, Syfy places Caprica in a spot that it would be almost impossible to gain any good ratings. Caprica only aired for 4 days, of it’s Season 1.5 release and was put up against Special Sports (drawing millions of extra viewers away from regular series and shows) and the two highest rated shows of that date/time slot airing Special Longer Length Episodes (both of which timed it so that each of their special episodes,would not air against the others, airing in 3 out the 4 days that Caprica did).
Even Teen Mom (Is The Highest Rated Show for that date/time slot), fell over 1 million (on their average ratings)for its TWO HOUR SPECIAL, week October 19, 2010. Against the Special Sports Events!!!!!
Caprica wasn’t able to stand alone properly without proper advertising notice of a schedule change under a month, in advance. In addition to many of Caprica’s viewers were counting on a January 2011 airing, not a surprise October 5, 2010 airing!!!
Even looking around the internet at many postings, you’ll see people that were watching Caprica in Season 1.0, DIDN’T even know they changed the schedule or that it was even CANCELLED, until reading it through some of the many SAVE CAPRICA POSTS or other posts stating its cancellation.
All this against pre-scheduled and properly advertised Special Sports Events (airing every Tuesday through Caprica’s airing time) and Special Event Episodes of the two Highest Rated Shows in that time/day slot (each of those shows Special Episodes aired so that at least one of the specials were airing on Each Tuesday of the month).
Caprica had only aired 4 episodes and all those weeks had pre-scheduled Sports Events and/or the two Highest rated Shows (airing longer length Special Episodes) of that time slot (even before Caprica was Suddenly moved from its PRE-SCHEDULED AIRING DATE OF JANUARY 2011.
None of the other shows had any surprise schedule changes and had started airing their shows well before the month of October.
Use these pages for ratings references:
Tuesday Cable Finals for Air-Date: Tuesday October 5, 2010
http://www.thoughts.com/CapricaNeedsSeason2/tuesday-cable-finals-for-air-date-tuesday-october-5-2010-taken-from-tv-by-the-numbers-website
Caprica’s Last 3 Episodes And Ratings – See The Real Reason Behind The Low Ratings!!!
http://www.thoughts.com/CapricaNeedsSeason2/capricas-last-3-episodes-and-ratings-see-the-real-reason-behind-the-low-ratings
How Did Caprica’s Mid-Season Look, Using The +7 DVR Ratings, Before The Quick Change In Schedule?
http://www.thoughts.com/CapricaNeedsSeason2/how-did-capricas-mid-season-look-using-the-7-dvr-ratings-before-the-quick-change-in-schedule
Also when you add up all those additional MILLIONS of viewers (not counting the regular date/time slot series shows) that were watching these Special Sports Events, they had to come from somewhere. Take a total count of a normal Tuesday night ratings (without Special Sports Events).
For instance, last Tuesday night that time slot (including shows that overlapped it) totaled 13.236 million for the (7) shows that aired (without Special Sports Events or shows).
Week of October 19, 2010 (where even Teen Mom’s 2 Hours Special dropped over 1 million viewers), had a total of 15.451 million for (10) shows(not even counting TBS ALCS Game 4 (8pm, 257 minutes) with 9.846 million viewers. That is only 2 million more than the week with (7) shows, which would average about 0.600/extra show (not great stats there). Total with TBS ALCS Game 4 (8pm, 257 minutes) with 9.846 million viewers, was 25.297 million viewers.
These extra Millions of people had to come from some where? Especially considering only just over 3% of the viewing population is used for the actual ratings, of these shows.
So don’t give me this Caprica couldn’t hold it’s own, during these 4 days, SYFY. When you placed Caprica up against, Special Sports Events combined with the (2) Highest rated shows for the time/day slot airing Special Longer Length Episodes on (3) of the 4 days, is really a fair way to judge Caprica ratings ( with all the viewer confusing, of not even knowing Syfy started to air them).
COME ON!!!!
The same type of math, with the ratings, can be done with the other 3 weeks as well. I just used this particular week to show that even Teen Mom lost about 1 million viewers (from its normal) during this week, and even against its Two Hour Special.
Syfy even used this trick with justifying themselves for giving Stargate Universe an additional Season with 20 more episodes. Stargate Universest Season finale dropped from 1.8 to 1.3 million and Syfy said that it was because of some Special Event that aired at the same day/time slot.
Well, It definitely shows a double whammy for Caprica here on these 4 days of showing not only Special Sports events, but also the (2) highest rated shows of the day/time slot also showed Special Longer Episodes at the same time with the Special Sports Events…
Think About It!!!!
This even effected other shows that had already been airing steady episodes, for over a month before and ALL their viewers knew that they were being aired!!!
Some people might say that Special Events and Series Specials happen all the time and if a show cannot handle this then its not worth being on the air.
My answer to them woud be, true (to some extent) if the series has already been running steady and everyone knew that is was being aired. Not when it’s starts the same day it premieres, with hardly any advertising or promotion that they have switched the already pre-scheduled air date, in less than a months time. And these events run straight through every single episode.
Then I would have to agree with them, but Season 1.0 was actually gaining little by little live viewers ( I’ll admit, not much, but some). It was really increasing on the DVR ratings, about 12-15% in each area (18-49 & 25-54 age groups), with each new episode.
Then Season 1.5 airs and Caprica instantly drops 0.300 and more on the live ratings. Anyone would seem to think, that with the sudden schedule change and no real promoting that they were doing this, that maybe a good share of viewers didn’t know about the change. Also that these Special Events are actually effecting them.
I believe Syfy actually knew all this and was actually part of the overall plan, in order to bring forth a new prequel to BSG, “Blood and Chrome” as well as making as much profit as possible, with DVD sales of Caprica’s Season 1.5. I believe, Caprica’s Season 1.5, never actually was going to air for any purpose of adding viewers to the show, as Syfy had already made its decision to do away with Caprica and start on the process of making “Blood and Chrome”, but it still needed to get rid of Caprica, before it could gain more popularity (perhap by Season 1.5 being aired in a just and proper way, Caprica could have actually taken off and became a popular series.), but Syfy could take that chance.
They also wanted to make as much money as they could in the process, hence, moving up the Season 15. DVD sales to before Christmas 2010. Next, they had to attempt to air the episodes before the DVD release, to look like they are doing this for the fans (also it is highly irregular to release a DVD for TV shows before the actual episodes air). Syfy, knowing the ratings would be low, by abruptly changing Caprica’s air date within less than a months time and no real advertising or promotion, stating that this is was going to be happening, along with the Special Sports Events/ Special TV Series Shows (highest rated of that day/time slot, airing extra long special episodes.), they knew Caprica wouldn’t have its full viewer capacity knowing it would be airing as well as the shows (specials – sports/extended length etc.) it would be facing, would drastically reduce its ratings.
Then part 2 of the plan, make as much money as possible. Remove the last five episodes till after the Season 1.5 DVD sale, to increase the want of the DVD’s, since it would contain these five episodes.
One thing that Syfy didn’t count on, though was that NBC actually own’s Caprica’s contract and yes, Syfy can stop airing Caprica on its channel, but could not stop Space from airing Caprica there, since only NBC could do this, and NBC didn’t want to stop the airing of Caprica and let Space continue it normal broadcasting schedule.
If Syfy had it their way, these last five episodes wouldn’t be airing anywhere, to increase the profit potential of the DVD sales. It’s all about the DVD sales and the upcoming “Blood and Chrome” series, behind Caprica’s demise, planned and executed by Syfy themselves.
Pretty fair, considering they judged Caprica’s performance based solely on 8 episodes, upon which only 6 of them were actually aired, without any breaks in its airing schedule.
That is hardly a fair judgment, considering, they even stated that Caprica was only an experiment. LOL…even an experiment would require more episodes to justly evaluate its performance. Something at least to the equivalence of say 10 full episodes, airing consecutively.
With no comment, whatsoever by Syfy or their Administration (since the initial October 27, 2010 statement), regarding these issues, related to all the fan uprising and publicity, behind Caprica’s cancelation, leaves this commentator, with nothing else to believe, but his opinion and observations surrounding this article.
Dear Syfy Management,
I’m just a Syfy fan as well as BSG & Caprica, and I see Syfy going down the tubes, unless you can start gaining more popularity with your (Sci-Fi) genre. Canceling Caprica is definitely a step backwards. Caprica was an experiment, so I hear from people of your team, trying to defend low ratings etc. Well even an experiment deserves more than you have given Caprica.
Caprica needed to take more time than most series to gather a following. You tried too hard to set it apart from BSG. It is part of BSG. You were trying to reach another genre as well, that won’t work when you are a Syfy channel. If you wanted to do it that way, you should have aired on NBC (your parent channel), they have a wider spread audience. Inadvertently, by trying to separate Caprica from BSG, you did just that and most of the BSG genre, bought into the hype and wouldn’t sit long enough (or not at all) to give it a chance, because all they expected, was some half-baked show that didn’t have much to do with BSG.
You should have started out just releasing the series, based on BSG and once it caught on, try to gain other genre’s into the fold. If you look at the episodes from season 1.5, they have really gathered the BSG genre back into the fold. I am still clueless as to why you didn’t play all your cards with Caprica, since you had made all the episodes up ahead of time, and let them unfold, then make your decision, after that.
If Season 1.5 was actually aired and implemented in the right way, you would, most likely already have the fan base you were looking for at the beginning, even with the sloppy airing of the first set of episodes. You really out did that with airing the Season 1.5 (tenfold), placing it in the schedule you did and you cannot tell me that you didn’t know about the Sports Events/TV Specials(of the highest rated shows of that date/time slot) appearing along side of Caprica for those (4) days of airing. All the shows fell in the ratings for that month, even Teen Mom fell 1 million on its 2 hour special (from its norm).
You have a great show with as much potential as BSG (if not more), if you play it right. You still have time to save this gold mine. Look around at the free publicity Caprica has already gotten, since that, one and only statement on October 27, 2010. I’m not just talking International. I’m talking ‘World Wide’. I’d like to think you have some smart people running Syfy, you must realize all the attention Caprica is gaining. Imagine what this could do for your company if in 2011, you make a statement of a second season for Caprica, can you imagine what the ratings would be like on the air date (if aired properly). Caprica is already all over the Internet, now.
Caprica is a new type of science fiction, that is compelling, in depth in the story line, great actor/character base and can be a much better prequel to BSG than Blood and Chrome will ever be (given the era of its setting). Time is something you should have realized as a component to introducing a show with this magnitude. It’s what people are looking for, whether it takes them a while to realize it or not, and they have.
You also would have succeeded in gaining the other genre’s into the fold as well. As another bonus, all the frustrated Syfy fans, your science fiction fans, may have some faith brought back to them, in your programming. Not many of them are happy with the schedule you seem to be acquiring lately, with wrestling, reality shows etc. Grant it, you are trying to expand your audience, but in trying to expand other areas, you are losing a whole other genre.
Who am I to tell you how to run your business, I’m just a fan that knows what the people want and its mostly science fiction from their science fiction channel…lol.
P.S.
I apparently omitted another fact, SYFY. On your airing of Season 1.5, your abrupt schedule change, also added to the lack of viewers which most definitely effected the ratings, as well. You switched the already scheduled air date of January 2011, to October 5, 2010, with under a months notice and lack of proper promoting and advertising, that you were doing this. You must have known the effect this would have on the shows overall performance.