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A lot calmer View co-hosts spent 4 minutes today reminiscing about Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg’s infamous walk-off during the interview with Bill O’Reilly on Thursday. “On this show, we all talk about standing up to bigotry, so I stood out,” was Behar’s comment. “I hit my saturation point… I had enough,” Goldberg said. Stressing that the stint was not staged, Sherri Shepherd shared an amusing exchange during a camera break on Thursday when she said O’Reilly was excited about how the clip will be “played all over the nation and it is really gonna make your ratings.” Barbara Walters’ response: “We were doing fine without you trying to make our ratings.”
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Tolerant people will only be tolerant of their own opinions…
Sad really. Whoopi sure was tolerant for Mel Gibson’s comments and her not “rape-rape” comments still make me shudder. She should hit her saturation point and get up and walk out on herself. And “Queen Of Over-Talking” Joy Behar enjoys the drama, as much as she protests.
My Suggestion to Barbara Walters:
Stop inviting O’Rielly to The View if you don’t need his ratings or don’t like his brand of drama. What you see with him is exactly what you get.
Either way I stopped watching both of their shows long ago. Now if a certain person *cough* (Nikke) will just stop writing about them…
Stupid debate – Liberal PCism run amuck.
Muslims were responsible for 9/11.
It sure the hell wasn’t Mormons.
The people that attacked us happened to be Muslims, but the way he phrased it seemed to make it an us vs. them thing as if Muslims as a whole attacked us–which I think is the issue.
Exactly the bigotry they were responding to. Many Muslims were killed in 9/11, too. Christian radicals bomb abortion centers. Does this mean all Christians are to be blamed?
Of course not. Everyone seems to think Bill said all Muslims were responsible for 9/11. He didn’t.
He stated that the majority of the US public is against the GZ mosque (which is a fact). When asked why people are against it, he stated the obvious truth — because muslims attacked us on 9/11.
Everything he said was simple fact and the “bury the head in the sand” response of these women is all too prevalent among the left in this country in response to radical Islam.
since you are fond of the facts, you may want to make note that it’s not a mosque (it’s a community center) and it’s not at ground zero (it is several blocks away).
Just who is this “majority” that opposes it? No one polled me nor any of my friends who are not in opposition – to a Community Center 2 blocks away and out of sight of ground zero, by the way. I love how freely people attach the “everyone” and the “majority” to claims with no real data to support them.
Frankie, I take it you don’t know too much about statistics, or about generalizing from a random sample. That’s just a hunch, but I don’t think I need data to support this one.
Great point!
What’s telling more than anything else is how serious they discuss this non-issue — as if all the world was on hold and lost sleep over their behavior and response to O’reilly. I’m sure fourteen-million out-of-work people are thanking Behar and Whoopi for underscoring their noblesse oblige.
Sad that so much focus is on them walking off stage rather than the crazy and outlandish shit O’Reilly was saying.
Amen!
O’Reilly was simply stating facts. I don’t think anything he said was that outlandish at all. Liberals hear what they want to hear and put their fingers in their ears (or stomp offstage) when someone says anything that offends their precious PC worldview.
Bill O’Reilly was technically correct by saying “Muslims killed us on 9/11″. The extremists were Muslim. But there is a difference between Muslims and Muslim extremists which O’Reilly appeared ignorant of.
Men were responsible for 9/11 too. But only extremist men, not all men.
Ditto!
Saying “Muslims killed us on 9/11″ is no more-or-less accurate than saying “Christians perpetrated the Holocaust.”
Well, both statements are technically accurate, so what? It’s about who’s saying it and why — O’Reilly is not willing to engage on any nuanced discussion of Christians being responsible for the Holocaust any more than he is willing to engage in a nuanced discussion about Mulsims and 9/11.
He’s a race-baiter, plain and simple, the ladies were right to walk out on him.
You think Hitler was a Christian?
Crack a history book once in a while…
not sure if hitler was a christian or not, but christian churches in germany did not stand up to him and were willing to look the other way.
Ivy –
Hitler was most certainly Christian.
Crack a Google search once in a while…
Hitler was most certainly Christian as was most everyone in his cabinet as was most everyone in the SS all the way down to the guys driving the rail cars. These people were nearly all baptized Christians in a Christian nation.
When you point this out most Christians in the US will gasp and say “Well they weren’t REALLY Christian!” and point to the Nazi’s atrocious acts as evidence that they weren’t “really” Christian, which is kind of the whole point of this discussion and whether or not the 9/11 were “really” Muslim. It feels different when the finger is pointing at someone else.
Ratings are not all that great, ladies. But the whole issue does undercut Whoopi’s validity as an “author” of books on manners and civility. You don’t invite someone and then walk out when you’ve “had enough”. Your job as a host is to be civil, tolerant and allow your guest to have his say – or don’t invite him. But you don’t invite someone and then behave rudely.
Muslims – not all Muslims, not every Muslim – but Muslims did kill 3000 people on 9/11 and bear collateral responsibility for the many rescue workers who have died of job-related illness associated with that day.
Sorry Whoopi and Joy – the “see what you made me do” defense doesn’t cut it. You were rude and you were wrong.
Whoopi, Joy and The View have had their 15 minutes, and then some, of fame from this. They are a real life oxymoron of no class closed minded thinking and behavior called The View.
This story is done.
PLEASE, Nikki…they are just pandering to you and others for much needed publicity…and, you are just giving them a forum to do this.
The women on the View – Whoopi Goldberg and Barbara Walters especially – handled O’Reilly very poorly. Rather than all trying to talk at once, Goldberg and Walters should have calmed things down so everyone could make their points. Rather than walking off, Goldberg and Joy Behar should have just taken O’Reilly down point by point.
As soon as he says it’s Imam Rauf’s right to build there, you agree with him. It IS their right to build the Park51 project.
As soon as he cites an opinion poll, you come right back with, an opinion poll in the mid-1960s showed 70% of Americans were opposed to the Supreme Court striking down miscegenation laws. Obviously, the American public as a whole feels quite differently about it now. Should we have continued to ban interracial marriage because at that point a majority of Americans opposed it?
And if that’s not enough, add that the Founding Fathers were so concerned about extremism and mob rule – the “tyranny of the majority”, they called it – that they built in three branches of government, each with checks and balances on each other, along with TWO legislative bodies specifically so that calmer heads can prevail in the face of the tyranny of the majority. In other words, Bill, it was the intent of the Founding Fathers that we not govern based on opinion polls.
You take down an SOB like this point by point, tearing right through each argument he makes. Especially when he’s on your turf.
What you don’t do is storm off the set of your own frakking show.
This is overall a very well thought out argument, but there is one fatal flaw in your logic– interracial couples did not attach us on 9/11. Therefore, I do not think it is fair to compare opinion polls about interracial marriage to an opinion poll about Muslims building a mosque. If interracial couple terrorists blew up a building back in the mid 1960′s, then you have a fair basis for comparison.
Interesting how once again the Muslim Community remains silent. I was probably sleeping when they came out against the the Terror that took place on 9-11. They don’t have much to say about it do they? They don’t say much as a community against Iranian Policy either. We will all wake up soon. I just hope it’s not to late. I’m just another peaceful guy watching the leadership from all sides.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRWmu365AKQ
The Imam of the community center did speak out. He has condemned all forms of terrorism. The Bush administration flew him all over the world to speak out against extremism. The mosque itself has already been built – it’s been in use for over a year now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G68Jd5WqyZ4
It is the community center portion (basketball courts and swimming pools) that is currently in jeopardy. The Imam said he feared that if the community center was not built, extremists would use it as another excuse to launch terrorist attacks against us. Fox News twisted that quote into a threat against our country by the Imam. Even when you speak in the most gentle and rational terms, people only seem to hear what they want to hear.
If your primary news sources are Fox News, AM talk radio, and the Drudge Report, of course you’re not hearing anything from moderate Muslims.
Well, you used to. Imam Rauf has appeared multiple times on Fox News, but not since the Tea Party decided to take aim at the Park51 project.
I wish one of these talking heads had the sense to say “I’m sure if you took a poll of Southern states in the 1960′s, over 70% would approve of segregation. Just because the majority opinion favors discrimination doesn’t make it right. It speaks to what kind of country we want to become — one that follows whatever the popular opinion of the time (morality be damned) or one that follow the ideal of equality for all.” Instead, they chose to walk away from the opportunity to have an intelligent discussion. Such is our political climate these days.
So standing up to bigotry = walking away? Not where I grew up.
Getting up and leaving like two obnoxious, bratty three year old toddlers accomplished what? Maybe, The View should only have people on they agree with. If they won’t allow their guests a chance to speak–no matter who the guest is, why should I waste my time listening to them? Fail!
These two “comediennes”, Whoopi and Joy, have morphed into sad-sack, unfunny leftists and are incapable of any real give-and-take. If you don’t share their world view, there is something wrong with you, they believe.
Islam throughout the world have made it a tradition to build a Mosque wherever they feel or believe they have had a military/religious victory. The rule of thumb is to be able to “stand on the steps of the new mosque that has been built” and within that I eye-line be able to see the site where victory was achieved.
This is true throughout the world history; Africa, Indonesia and in numerous other countries.
This is real people and to allow a Mosque to be built near ground-zero would be a crime in the since that it would ring ‘victory’ and tell Islamic world that ‘yes’ the USA can be defeat and this is the first step.
Do you want that? You’re all smart… Google/BING and do your own research. Also get it right people.
Christians (People) = Christianity (Religion)
Muslims (People) = Islam (Religion)
Except it’s not a mosque, it’s a community center. How many times does this need to be explained?
It’s a mosque (mosques traditionally contain community facilities beyond just worship centers), and it’s at ground zero (blocks away or no, an engine from the jet landed at the proposed site.)
Also, except it’s a moderate Sufi who’s behind the Park51 project, a man who, very much counter to the radical agenda of violent groups like Al Qaeda, has made a point of promoting understanding between major religious faiths by doing things like participating in the World Parliament of Religions in Sydney last year. Oh, and acting as a kind of goodwill ambassador for President Bush.
Yeah, that’s the guy you’re trying to vilify here. A man who traveled the world at the behest of President Bush after 9/11.
Classy move there hoss.
If your Sufi was so concerned with promoting “understanding,” maybe he would “understand” how inappropriate and insensitive it would be to build a mosque next to ground zero. What a load of bs.
as she stated in the clip Whoopi had had her fill of Bill and if she had stayed while he was making the musilms killed us on nine eleven when he ment extremists Whoppi would have wounded up with the fcc giving the View a big fine for swearing. i give Props to both Joy and Whoppie for walking off mostly to calm down. and take a breather from Bill.
Bad manners, sense of a code of behavior from ‘The View’ hosts…
What a joke.
Learn how to have a proper conservation without raising your voice, swearing and rising up at somebody…
What a sick joke.
Bill hasn’t back down from his statement from the view. Still the ladies of the View were talking about it. One thing Bill O’Reilly knew people who were lost in the World Trade Center from his hometown of Levitown,Long Island. That’s enough for me for him to justified his statement. Obviously some New Yorkers like Joey Behar have a such a short memory. She hasn’t learned her history lessons. For her and Whoopi to walk off displayed bad manners.
19 hijackters Saudia Arabian,Lebonese snuff lives at the World Trade Center,the Pentagon but the Brave Americans of Flight 93 stood to these terrorists for that’s what they really are.
Please everyone — let’s relax here. Why are we so polarized right now? Daytime television pundit squabbles are seriously dividing us? If so, what hope is there to find common ground on things that actually matter like generating jobs? We may need Jon Stewart to hold a Rally to Restore Sanity once a month, not just once this year. The polarization is leading to a paralyzing grid-lock. I think it’s important for us on the left to really make an effort to extend an olive branch to some of those on the conservative right. We are all Americans and in the past, during times of crisis, we’ve been able to put partisanship aside to pull ourselves up. We REALLY need to do that now because the average working men and women are struggling. So many of us are tired of the shouting and the stubborn attitudes. I know we’re all frustrated. But for the sake of the hard-working people who need help, let’s try and listen to one another and engage in legitimate dialogue. Who did what on “The View” doesn’t mean anything when you look at the bigger problems we are facing. Let’s try and find what unites us, not focusing on what divides us.
Park51, or still the Cordoba House? If he’s going back to Cordoba, well, it’s a place in Spain where Muslims ruled once…
NYTIMES in 2009: “The location was precisely a key selling point for the group of Muslims who bought the building in July. A presence so close to the World Trade Center, “where a piece of the wreckage fell,” said Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the cleric leading the project, “sends the opposite statement to what happened on 9/11.””
it was the cordoba people who first brought up tying the tragedy of 9/11 to GZM back in 2009.
Taking Whoopi at her word, here’s what happened.
Whoopi says “bullshit”, then realizes it is time for her to leave the conversation. She gets up to leave. Then, (sigh) Joy Behar sees an opportunity to grab some spotlight and joins in with her.
At least Whoopi gave a rational explanation. Joy’s explation? “We say stand up to bigotry, so I stoood up” (roughly) – a pat, moronic answer worthy of Sarah Palin. Whoopi is either a better liar, or Joy didn’t have any real reason to storm off except she could.
Then again, Whoopi has entertained me in comedy and drama, whereas I’ll change channels to a Carl’s Jr. ad before I’ll stay with Joy Behar.
“It is the community center portion (basketball courts and swimming pools) that is currently in jeopardy. The Imam said he feared that if the community center was not built, extremists would use it as another excuse to launch terrorist attacks against us. Fox News twisted that quote into a threat against our country by the Imam”
so if the cordoba house doesn’t get built, the islamists will get angry and attack us?
the imam is engaging in blackmail.
You can’t fully blame Whoopi and Joy for “walking out on their guest.” Fact is, Whoopi and Joy don’t decide who’s a guest on the program, Barbara Walters and Bill Gettie do. It’s more like being at someone else’s party where a boor goes on and on obnoxiously, and deciding it’s time for you to go.
If Whoopi or Joy were in fact in control, I’m sure they would have kicked Bill off or cut him off, just like he so often does to anyone he’s done with hearing from on his own show.
There is a Islamic Community center in my neighborhood. It is a interesting place above one door it says “women and children entrance only” the more ornate door above says “men only”. The door for men leads to the mosque where men pray and for the women I don’t know.
Back on topic, this episode reminded me of Michelle Malkin appearance on the view. They also didn’t come prepared to the discussion and looked childish.
If anyone knows anything it’s that everyone knows the opinions of the guest being invited or they would not have been invited to be on a show discussion. Low class, vulgar, disrespect, of the Barbara Walters legend and they should be fired. The ethics claus in contracts serves that purpose. Too bad it’s ignored in sports.