SATURDAY PM/SUNDAY AM WRITETHRU: It’s the start of the Holiday Moviegoing Season, so celebrate! The box office sure is, because this wound up a record first weekend in November for North America with the $155+ million total of all the movies (not corrected for inflation or ticket prices) passing the Industry record of $153M set in 2003. But with all 3 big newcomers meeting their opening weekend expectations, where’s the fun for cynical me? Meanwhile, Sony Pictures had a great summer, Warner Bros led with a successful early fall, and now Paramount Pictures is showing strength: In the last 4 weeks, the studio has released 3 different films all at #1 and all opening over $40 million in 3 different genres. Here are what my sources say are Friday’s and Saturday’s Top Ten grosses with weekend and cume numbers:
1. Megamind (DreamWorks Animation/Paramount) NEW [3,944 Runs]
Friday $12.5M, Saturday $20.6M, Weekend $47.6M
DreamWorks Animation toons, like Pixar’s, do reliably strong box office, even on Date Night, with a big Saturday kiddie matinee bounce. So there was considerable surprise among rival studios starting midday Friday when newcomer Megamind 3D‘s grosses looked underperforming despite its “A-” CinemaScore, usually successful formula of hip pop culture references, a typically aggressive marketing push, and a giant release into 3,944 theaters with 2,634 of them 3D-equipped. It was as if life were imitating art, since Megamind is the most brilliant supervillain the world has ever known — and the least successful. But the problem, it turned out, wasn’t the movie. Instead, I learned that AMC theaters was experiencing computing problems and had no grosses in the system, according to distributor Paramount. The studio knew the actual number would go higher: “There are no kids out of school. Looks like mid- to high-40′s, right where everyone expected,” a Paramount exec reassured me. And it has. It opened just ahead of the first 3-day weekend of the original Madagascar ($47.2M) which was only 2D and therefore had lower ticket prices, but also ahead of How to Train Your Dragon 3D which was regarded as weak because of its summer weekend gross of $43.7M. Megamind starring the voices of Will Ferrell, Tina Fey, and Brad Pitt turns the superhero genre on its head so, naturally, the promotional campaign kicked off with a giant superhero event at LA Live where the record was set for the most superheroes ever gathered in one location. There also was a big tie-in with the World Series that featured Ferrell disguised as a character that looked remarkably like Marlon Brando’s Jor-El from 1978′s Superman. There also was an outreach on MTV for under age 25 moviegoers with Megamind auto tunes.
2. Due Date (Legendary Pictures/Warner Bros) NEW [3,355 Runs]
Friday $12.2M, Saturday $13M, Estimated Weekend $33.5M
Warner Bros’ Due Date, an unofficial reboot of John Hughes’ Planes Trains & Automobiles, opened this weekend almost exactly on target with what Hollywood expected from its wide release into 3,355 theaters. Audiences gave it a “B-” CinemaScore. The comedy starring Robert Downer Jr and Zach Galifianakis, who reteamed with his The Hangover director Todd Phillips, had been tracking on the high side of what an “R”-rated buddy comedy will do, and indeed Due Date fared almost exactly the same as The Other Guys starring Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg did in this genre over the summer. As usual, Warner Bros’ marketing czarina Sue Kroll promo’ed the heck out of the pic, with three different trailers and TV ads. The teaser trailer was launched with Inception in July, and the studio had a main trailer playing from September through release. WB capitalized on early opportunities with TV season premieres in September, and longer format media stunts (Downey singing “Looks Like We Made It”) that included heavy network, cable, NFL, Baseball/World Series, etc. There also was a strong WOM program that included military bases, college campuses, traditional radio, and national talk shows. As a result, Due Date generated well-balanced male and female support, capturing strong date crowd business, with its primary audience 17 and older. It also was one of those few R-rated comedy marketing that didn’t try to insult or gross out women. “The campaign sought to always capture the humor, but also ensure the tone was warm, likeable, even sweet at times — but always with outrageous comedy,’ a WB exec tells me. In the online/social media world, the studio used its existing Facebook Hangover fan page (8 million followers) to push Due Date content “giving us a much wider reach than we otherwise would have had to a perfectly targeted audience for the material,” the exec noted.
3. For Colored Girls (Lionsgate) NEW [2,127 Runs]
Friday $7.4M, Saturday $7.9M, Weekend $20.1M
Lionsgate’s For Colored Girls at first looked like the R-rated drama was wildly overperforming Friday for an estimated $28M from 2,127 theaters when the Tyler Perry-directed film was only expected to gross $20M, the equivalent of its budget. Then again, it receiced an “A” CinemaScore from audiences. ”It’s performing more on a par with Tyler’s other films,” an excited Lionsgate exec prematurely gushed to me that afternoon. But the weekend grosses were not the phenom first thought. Still, they met expectations and, ”between Tyler’s loyal female following and the cross cultural and multi generational appeal of the work, the opening weekend is feeling like we made this an event, going beyond the core African-American audience,” an insider tells me. With actresses including Thandie Newton, Whoopi Goldberg, Kimberly Elise, Phylicia Rashad, Janet Jackson, Loretta Devine, Anika Noni Rose, and Kerry Washington, Perry gave each the poetic monologues dealing with love, abandonment, rape, abortion, and such from original playwright Ntozake Shange. Lionsgate plans to push the women for Best Actress and Best Supporting Actress categories, and for the Screen Actors Guild’s Best Ensemble Cast. This is the 10th Lionsgate/Tyler Perry collaboration, but the first production to be released by Tyler Perry Studio’s art house label 34th Street Films. Tolerate his racial stereotyping or not, Perry’s normal fare is a money machine for Lionsgate especially when his films star his female alter ego Madea. But not even Tyler’s close pal Oprah Winfrey wanted him to make the film version of 1975′s iconic For Colored Girls Who Have Considered Suicide When the Rainbow Is Enuf. And her first reaction echoed the outrage of many black females along the lines of, “How dare you!” because the storyline is profoundly their story, not any man’s, and especially not his. I was told that, despite her horror, Oprah gave Perry “huge feedback” on the script, and that Winfrey and her gal pal Gayle King both gave Perry big props when they saw the rough cut. (Yes, but was Winfrey simply admiring her own handiwork or his?)
4. Red (Summit) Week 4 [3,229 Runs]
Friday $2.5M, Saturday $4M, Weekend $8.9M, Cume $71.9M
5. Saw 3D (Lionsgate) Week 2 [2,808 Runs]
Friday $2.6M Saturday $3.4M, Weekend $8.2M (-66%), Cume $38.8M
6. Paranormal Activity 2 (Paramount) Week 3 [3,168 Runs]
Friday $2.3M, Saturday $3.1M, Weekend $7.2M, Cume $77.2M
7. Jackass 3D (MTV Films/Paramount) Week 4 [2,165 Runs]
Friday $1.6M, Saturday $2.2M, Weekend $5M, Cume $110.8M
8. Secretariat (Disney) Week 5 [2,614 Runs]
Friday $1.2M, Saturday $1.9M, Weekend $4M, Cume $51M
9. Hereafter (Warner Bros) Week 4 [2,365 Runs]
Friday $1.1M, Saturday $1.8M, Weekend $4M, Cume $28.7M
10. The Social Network (Sony Pictures) Week 6 [1,860 Runs]
Friday $1M, Saturday $1.6M, Weekend $3.6M, Cume $85M
UPDATE: Fox Searchlight reported to me that director Danny Boyle’s Oscar-touted 127 Hours starring James Franco “had massive crowds and long lines all day to sell-out results this weekend playing in 4 theatres in NY and LA.” The film grossed over $265K, its theater average $66,481. This is the 2nd best opening average of 2010 behind The Kids Are All Right in 7 theatres, average $70,282. This is also exceeding Fox Searchlight’s expectations and it’s a great start for the first film from Boyle since his Best Picture Oscar-winner Slumdog Millionaire and helps his and Franco’s awards chances.
And Summit Entertainment’s Fair Game starring Sean Penn and Naomi Watts in the Valerie Plame/CIA leak scandal opened with $700K playing at 46 theaters for a per theater average of $15,217. It earned $200K Friday and $300K Saturday and will add 130 theaters to next weekend’s release pattern. Receiving an “a-” CinemaScore, the film skewed older while attendance was evenly split between men and women.
Fox Searchlight’s Conviction starring Hilary Swank continues to fail to catch on, just as I’d predicted. (Why Is Fox Searchlight Still In Swank Biz? Especially after last year’s Amelia was such a total loser for it at the box office.) Playing in 672 locations during its 4th week in release, it made only $1.5M this weekend for just a $4.7M cume.
Paramount Vantage, Participant Media, and Walden Media updated the grosses for their education documentary, Waiting for Superman at 242 locations now after 7 weeks in slow release. Its weekend estimate is $386K and its new cume is a very respectable $5.3M.
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How To Train Your Dragon also opened to low $40s with cries of “bomb…”
will ferrell is usually the kiss of death, so for him, these last two movies are over-performing.
How to Train Your Dragon had some heart at least. Megamind may be one of the worst animated features to come out in the last few years. You people have seen The Incredibles and Despicable Me right? Megamind is just a half-assed rip off of both. Lowest common denominator to the extreme. Oh hey, how about another character who raises one eyebrow and smiles? Dreamworks is a joke and where good ideas go to die. Just look at the art book, Megamind himself went from interesting to Dull because the creative visions over at DW are muddied by the intense executive interference that never leads to the better. I expect big drop offs on this turd.
Did you see the film, or just commenting from the one-sheet and trailer? Just like Dragon, the feature film is much more than the 2-min trailer can convey, and it does have a hear.
Due Date was terrible. Very silly and Zack G is just not funny.
And Tyler Perry is the anti-christ.
The film’s success has less to do with Tyler Perry, and more to do with the source material being based on a well known literary work.
Ha are you kidding? Do you really think that a stageplay from 1975 is a bigger draw than the powerhouse that is Tyler Perry?
That’s actually not true, however much you wish to believe that.
No too surprised about Megamind. They’ve trained audience to be wary of anything other than the already familiar. Eventually that mistake will self correct.
Okay, it is still early, and the global box office could be huge.
Yet, the trailers never made me a believer. I get screenings to all films. In this case, audience and your response will get me there.
I hope this story lasts long enough for Deadline’s audience to respond. I need help.
Megamind will do fine, about 150 in the end, no HTTYD, but no bomb either. I’m really tired of the Tyler Perry hating. Whether u like it or not he opens movies as a director/producer like very few these days. This is a business.
Yup, I agree with you 100%. Tyler Perry writes, directs, produces – what more should the man do? And even if he was Scorsese, Cameron, and Speilberg rolled into one some folks still wouldn’t prefer him. So watch it or don’t. He’ll be fine regardless.
The hate for Tyler Perry is race related. No one in this industry wants to see someone else make very successful movies and get rich as hell without jumping through the traditional hoops. Then add on the fact that the one man who is bucking the trend and having success without the help of the Hollywood elite is black, and all hell brakes lose. I don’t know why it’s not talked about more, but it is well know that in a majority off all Hollywood circles there is no racism until a black man or woman becomes more successful then them. Then race starts to become a huge factor, because as these self-entitled pompus a-holes say it, “everyman should know his place in the pecking order.” So cuddos to you Tyler Perry. Although I personally don’t like your movies, I love seeing your success!!
I’m over Zack Gilafinwhatevricus already. He’s an unattractive hairy overweight one note actor who’s now labeled the best thing to comedy films and it’s ABSURD. He’s not that funny.
He’s the new Seth Rogen!
No, even worse. He’s the new Jason Segal. (Pathetic puppet fetishist).
They’re STILL better than Big Momma Martin Lawrence and Goofy-Ass Tracy Morgan (not to mention Goofy-Ass Big Momma Tyler Perry), so take THAT “post-racial” America…
You really let the world have it with that email. A thousand souls of long forgotten warriors are quaking under your immense courage.
I thought he was the new Jack Black.
Jack Black is actually funny. Jack Black has charisma.
Zack rules. He’s very funny and his less-than-perfect physique is something a lot of people can relate to. It’s not his fault you’re living in your Mom’s basement.
Zack PERSONIFIES the typical Mom’s-basement-dweller. Fat, dumb and childish. Figures he’s YOUR hero.
Yeah, comments about his looks aren’t appropriate, but he is not funny. Sorry, I’m not jealous. I’m happy with my life and my career, but he’s not funny. And that will soon play out in his career.
The joint on Bill Maher’s show was a smokin’ version of jumping the shark.
Are all of you insane? Zack Galafinakis is hilarious, has been for years. And unlike a lot of other physical comedians, he’s truly got depth. He’s finally found this slightly off loveable weirdo character got him into some major films. His career is going to continue to blossom. His talent is undeniable and he takes risks to keep himself fresh.
I don’t like Tyler’s projects but the man’s a money maker first and everything else after. His fans are fiercely loyal to him no matter what. It’s almost cult-like. Doesn’t hurt to have Whoopi, Janet and the rest in the line up for added insurance. Black Women will support this and drag their dates along. lol That’s pretty much the story with all his films. My opinion of his work won’t affect his bottom line one bit… That’s for sure.
I love animated movies, but I have no desire to see Megamind.
I can’t wait to see Due Date tomorrow night!!
Good note Teddy. Also, congrats on your success as a filmmaker.
Due Date is a good flick and a nice job by Todd Phillips to split up the Hangover comedies.
Um…. have you seen Due Date? What exactly was good about it. Just got back and I’m in shock at how bad it is.
What I saw of it was awful. Fell asleep through half the 2nd act…
Tyler Perry’s movies, whether you love them or hate them, always kill in their opening weekend. The guy has a massive, massive fanbase. Yet, every time he releases a film, they’re called ‘overperformers’ when they do great. Can it be maybe that the films are just being UNDERestimated rather than OVERperforming?
Don’t anyone worry about “Megamind”. Good reviews, only animation at the moment, holidays coming up and of course good word of mouth. It’ll do fine.
oh good because i was so worried about megamind
Sarcasm is worthless when unaccompanied with some wit. Please note the time of my previous posted comment. Now notice how its time corresponds to the initial report regarding “Megamind’s” surprisingly poor performance figures. That’s the problem with sarcasm; so little thinking involved.
“Starring the voices of…” That’s a new come-on.
We go to movies to hear voices?? (Im hearing voices now.)
Nikki…you are a sketch..
I’m being serious: Will someone please explain how Tyler Perry’s movies make so much money? I’m asking a real question.
Usually, I barely see any advertising for his films. And what advertising I do see isn’t necessarily memorable or clever. So again, how do his films make so much on opening weekend? Does he just have an amazingly loyal fanbase? And if so, why is his fanbase more loyal than pretty much any other fanbase?
I’d love to hear any opinions on the matter.
There are very few movies that focus on Blacks as the main character that aren’t either historical dramas or gang/violent male oriented films. Perry focuses on getting the innermost desires of Black women (whether rich or poor), he focuses on family issues, as well as fundamental black evangelical teachings of forgiveness, redemption and treating people well regardless of their station in life. He combines all of that into one film. For some, it’s the only film all year that they see which “feels” like their life. Even if it’s not the best-made film, it allows them a catharsis for similar issues in their lives. Isn’t that what movie making is all about? Touching people emotionally? Until a better film maker comes along that can combine all these elements AND make a spectacular film, Perry is their best shot.
I love this thoughtful post. You hit the nail right on the head. I’m not a ‘woman of color’ so to speak, but I enjoy the dynamics in his movies for all the reasons you mentioned far more than I mind them being ever-so-slightly predictable.
Although I’ve seen all of Perry’s films (via Netflix, I would never pay $12 to see his amateurish soap operas) and have liked none of them, I think Jackie’s explanation of their appeal is spot on. And I fully agree that until someone else decides to regularly hire all of the talented black actresses out there and make high-quality films, we have to settle for Perry’s mediocrity. I and numerous other black film-lovers are hoping every day that a better talent comes along soon to supersede Perry.
As right as your post is, and there was not one false statement in what you wrote… you left out one key element: how his films paint blacks in such a horrifying light through gross stereotypes.
He’s an abomination. A man that makes hundreds of millions of dollars from exploiting blacks.
The Hollywood system does not track his base–urban females between 17-57. of that audience: They’re not male, they’re not white and they’re not 13 y.o. It’s a trifecta of indifference. Look at how WB just announced that they will only make 8 movies per year, all comic books for the next 5 years of development. What tracking company that wishes to remain solvent will produce numbers accounting for Perry’s audience to feed such executives…
It’s called a built in audience. When you know your audience and what they want and give it to them they will not disappoint you. So you can put out a product with little to no advertisement and your people will find you. An old strategy but still works none the less. The simple fact that you have to ask this mean you are not one of his audience members. What’s the next Tyler Perry movie.. I don’t know but his audience member do
That’s true about the built-in audience, but the advertising is also there. You’re just not seeing it, because you’re not the target audience, and seeing a bunch of ads wouldn’t change that. It’s just highly targeted marketing.
Take Selena Gomez. She’s one of the biggest teen stars in the world right now. But a lot of people who don’t have kids have never even heard of her.
The real answer has very little to do with Perry himself. Black people have not assimilated into mainstream society or into the cinema culture of America. We remain defiantly separate and in a perpetual love/hate relationship with white people.
White standards of beauty, power and sexuality expressed in cinema have no effect on our desire to see ourselves as beautiful, powerful and sexy.
Perry is getting a small amount of the black audience available. he does not get the young or any men.
And he remains the only game in town because Hollywood in times of hardship immediately drops all allegiance to anything that is not “mainstream” a wonderful euphemism for “white.”
So it doesn’t matter that Perry is a hack, can’t act, shoots lazily and has not vision or cinematic acumen. He’s a hack but he’s our hack you see and so it is better to rule in Hell than serve (or get nothing) in Heaven.
@NoCountryForBlackMen
Amen!!!!!
Next week the bottom drops for Perry..
The answer to this question is plain and simple…untapped market.
Perry goes after a market that won’t otherwise go see a movie. The problem with “mainstream America” is they all feed into the same things. They watch the same shows, go to the same events, cheer for the same sports teams…etc, etc. But Perry, he’s created something that reaches out to an audience that has never felt connected to film. By making these movies he’s drawing people on the fringes who have for years felt like no one cared about their lives, their story. In Perry the found someone who does (and I belive he’s genuine about it). And they don’t care if a majority of America thinks the movies or TV shows suck. All that matters is that they have a representative at the top of the food chain, working for them, getting their message out. And for this they will be fiercly loyal, go whereever they need to go and pay whatever they need to pay in order to belong. So like it or not people Perry is hear to stay. And rather then fight him, Hollywood should join him. There is a hell of a lot of money to be made if they do.
…and to piggy back on what someone else just said, the audience Tyler Perry speaks to is strong, but routinely underestimated. Tyler Perry had a large following when he did his plays long before he turned them into movies, but guess what-Hollywood knew nothing about it. He knows how to reach them and get them to show up and show people what the black dollar can do. Black audiences are always dismissed when figuring in what theaters to go to and who to market a movie to. Tyler went straight for these under-served, under-appreciated audiences and hit them where they live. Hate or love Madea, most black families have a woman that is just like that and Tyler plays it to the hilt which is why people respond. Soon he will be making his mark overseas (something else Hollywood thinks he can’t do). If the people of Hollywood would really start paying attention to what audiences of color really want, they would continue to be “surprised” just how powerful our dollars are. I know middle America has nothing better to do then to go to movies, but not everything needs to be catered to them and other audiences are just as viable (as Tyler has shown), if you give them what they want to see.
It always makes me laugh when these execs use their own screwed-up children as the standard for children and teens across the country.
Even if the kids brought up in LA were normal, which they are not, what makes you think your kid speaks for his generation?
Well played, sir or madam.
Unfortunately they use the same standard for deciding what movies get made (“What would I wnat to see in a movie?”), which is why we’re treated to watching tons of 40 and 50 year old white dudes bedding women half as old and twice as hot in virtually every movie made. (please see “hot trailer” for “Just Go With It”).
So true! I’d like to add it’s also the reason we’re subjected to an endless stream of pretty, young blondes with little talent and so few Asian-American, Latinas and black women; because the middle-aged white studio executives don’t want to sleep with them.
you think the masses’ opinions are any better? please.
LA is a big place (made up of many different neighborhoods, subcultures, and income levels) and yes, there are some “normal” kids here. Adults too. Now whether the execs you speak of know any, that’s an entirely different question, so if that’s what you meant, you have a point.
It’s a sad sad day when a movie opens over $40M for a weekend and it’s underperforming.
I believe the animation sect of the film industry is faced with over-expectation upon every release.
Good point. If the film is any good, these movies seem to have legs like “How to Train Your Dragon” did.
I guess Tyler Perry fools the industry and handily defies low expectations again. Go on with your bad billionaire-to-be self, Tyler. You sure don’t do artistic or uber-polished work, but we all know the only color that really matters in Hollywood is GREEN ($$$).
THAT you do very, very well, my brother. Lionsgate is lucky to be on board with you.
Now, can you deliver a network TV show for NBC that won’t get cancelled (“Undercovers”) at the drop of a hat?
That’s your Mission Impossible … should you choose to accept it!
What I love about Tyler Perry lovers is that they acknowledge that he is a untalented hack but he makes money and that forgives his utter lack of talent.
The reviewers got it right. It’s a piece of crap.
Yeah and Lucas has been producing crap for 20 years and is just as much a hack–That’s Hollywood, what is your point? We won’t even talk about Bay and Ratner…
Ha, Dave, you hit the nail on the head. I don’t see folks getting on Bay for his nonsense. The criticism of Perry has more to do with too many people viewing one individual as a symbol for all black filmmaking. Yes, he’s successful but he doesn’t represent every black filmmaker. It’s Perry’s vision and no one else’s.
your so right Noah. ..people do underestimate his movies opening weekends. ..I enjoy tyler perry and his movies. too..they are what they are..
@Bob: Let me guess. You’re white.
Tyler Perrys movies do so well because he does have a VERY loyal fanbase that will go out to the movies and see them opening weekend. Before he did movies he has extremely successful plays that went all over the country to sold out crowds. Plus Tyler caters to a black audience. ..something hollywood seems to neglect.
Before the Perrymob eats up much of this comment section, let me remind everyone that as consistent as Madea has been at the box office, he’s yet to make anything that’s crossed $100 mil in domestic box office.
He’s not a major player. He’s fringe. Watch COLORED GIRLS plummet in its second weekend.
Not a major player huh? Go look at the Forbes list of most financially successful director/producers for each of the last 5 years. Guess who is #2 in all of Hollywood after Cameron? Sure as heck ain’t you. He is as untalented as most of Hollywood–big freaking deal. Why hold him up for scorn when Bruckheimer churns out shit every summer that yall eagerly scoff down and ask for more?
Amen to that, Tony!
“Amen” Tony,
Perry makes money with movies (keep in mind Miley Cyrus’s latest grossed more than Perry’s — Bruckheimer’s stuff did as well). He makes a fortune with television.
His movies are relatively cheap to produce, ergo he doesn’t have to make $100M at the box office to have a “hit”. Like him or not, he has a HUGE fan base of mostly blacks (and he’s pretty much the only writer/producer in that market [Spike Lee isn't going there anymore]), and he has brilliantly watermarked every one of his projects as “Tyler Perry’s…” The man brings in profit from every one of his projects – millions in profits. Hollywood should take note of how it’s done (if they can remember back that far).
Ryan thinks the only way to be successful is to have a $100mil movie. But anyone with any sense would rather have Perry’s record of consistent profits over a constant chase for one “big” hit.
“Ryan thinks the only way to be successful is to have a $100mil movie.”
Never wrote that. However, it’s a benchmark used for success. I doubt Perry will ever reach it.
Again, he’s fringe. And his movies aren’t really that cheap anymore.
Tyler Perry is “fringe?” I mean…wow. Movies showcasing his name on them have grossed close to half a billion dollars at the domestic b.o. in the span OF ONLY FIVE YEARS!
Not sure why you’re so confident one of his movies will never reach 100M, considering that “Madea Goes to Jail” did 90M.
You want to call him “fringe” based on his b.o. record, then you’re pretty much calling every single filmmaker “fringe” whose name isn’t Nolan or Spielberg. I mean, really, you want to trot out Woody Allen’s box office record and compare? Oh wait, Woody makes movies about rich white people, so I guess he’s not “fringe.”
Five years, sure. But NINE MOVIES in those five years. I mean, you could make the same argument for Kristen Stewart’s box office appeal.
“Movies showcasing her name on them have grossed close to half a billion dollars at the domestic b.o. in the span OF ONLY ONE YEAR!”
Looks amazing, but doesn’t paint an accurate picture.
And why is everyone soiling themselves about “profit.” Are you all Lionsgate accountants? Hollywood doesn’t care about profit, they want HITS. They want the stuff that brings glory. I didn’t make those goofy rules. It just is.
A $20 mil film that does $100-$200 mil is GLORY. Perry doesn’t bring GLORY. He brings financial padding to the studio. And FOR COLORED GIRLS looks to be another tepid ground-rule double for the filmmaker, while his budgets (as “reported”) continue to balloon.
He can spend a lifetime making this stuff, but it will never register beyond the core demo. His fringe demo. Yes, like Woody Allen.
Ryan said,
“Hollywood doesn’t care about profits, they want hits.”
You sir are delusional. Hollywood is exclusively about profits, prestige be damned.
Dude, why are you hating? Are you racist or something? No one here is saying Tyler Perry is original or cutting edge with anything he produces. In fact, everything he does seems trite and shallow to me. However this thread is about BOX OFFICE, and he is bringing in PROFITS.
Also, you must understand that a $100M (net) take is NOT a blanket “benchmark used for success.” It depends on the budget. If the film cost twice that much to produce and market, it is obviously a BOMB.
Similarly, if a film cost $2M to produce, $10M to market, and came in at $70M, it is a HIT. Why? Because it made MONEY, hand over fist!
Get over yourself man.
Profit is the benchmark of success not reaching some arbitrary and dated number. They’re plenty of films that gross over $100 million that never turn a profit because their exorbitant production and marketing costs. We could all list dozens of films that have reached this “benchmark” yet have all been considered flops.
Ryan: Perry’s movies routinely are some of the most profitable in the industry. It’s not about $100 million gross at the box office when it cost you $90+ million to make. Perry makes his for less than $10 million usually and walks away w/ 40-60. Do the math.
How would a $42 million weekend be “underperforming?” Seriously. That’s a pretty good number.
It’s really amazing to hear the consistent harsh words regarding ALL of Tyler Perry’s projects. There are plenty of bad movies to pick on, interestingly enough he is an obsession for most. What his fans love about him is his ability to produce projects that matter to them, albeit not the masses.. and don’t forget this supposedly untalented individual produced a film that granted a oscar worthy performance.
Sorry, Shana, but Tyler Perry had ZERO influence on the Oscar recognition that Precious received. He and Oprah signed on as producers AFTER the movie was made to help its distribution and marketing. If Perry had been involved in the making of the film, it would’ve turned out worse. How do I know? Because I’ve seen ALL of Perry’s movies and they are ALL amateurish. He’s a mediocre writer and director and he allows his actors to overact.
You are correct that there are other bad movies out there but one would think that after all of his success, that he’d get BETTER! That he’d learn the 3 act structure, how to create a 3-dimensional character, how not to write on the nose, how to properly place the camera…you know, writing and directing BASICS.
Perry said in an interview that he takes 2 weeks to complete a shooting script. Once I read that, I knew that Colored Girls was doomed.
If you have watched ALL his movies Anonymous — guess what, you’re a fan!
That Tyler Perry can illicit such strong emotions, good or bad, is the reason Hollywood LOVES this media genius who just happens to be black. Whether you watch though Redbox, Netflix, cable, DVD purchase at your local theater is irrelevant. By spending currency, you sustain this “amateur, mediocre writer and director’s” film and television business.
As Dr. Phil would say, “How does that make you FEEL?”
Meanwhile, Perry’s preparing for Awards season and casting his next project as you my friend come here to dazzle us with your knowledge and pithy intellect. There’s something oddly amusing about that!
So carry on with your predictions about “For Colored Girls” being “doomed”, I’m sure it will just be a matter of years, months or even days before we see your cinematic 3-act structure brilliance on the silver screen. In the meantime, I bet (once again) you’re gearing up to fork over more of your hard earned cash to Perry.
That is, if you haven’t done so already.
Everybody wants to be a star. Shine bright Anonymous!
Get over it. Due Date was funny AND bizarre (in a great way). So unlike other mainstream comedies, it was hilarious and shifted tones like an experimental comedy. Kudos to Downey for taking the leap and kudos to the filmmakers for trying something different.
The (sold out) audience I saw it with at the Grove broke into applause four or five times during the screening.
Will Ferrel? Tina Fey?
I think I’ll pass.
Not a Ferrell fan but I have to admit “Megamind” looks pretty funny. And I did enjoy “How to Train Your Dragon”.
only an idiot would pass on 2 of the funniest people on the planet.
THAT is completely subjective.
If that’s what you think of Fey & Ferrell, then, YOU’RE the funniest person on the planet.
I knew it, the first time I saw the 5-minute trailer of Megamind, and I know this film will really do amazing, love it!
Zack is so friggin’ funny that the SNL episode he hosted was actually watchable. The guy deserves all he gets now, he is a huge talent and an extremely funny guy who toiled in anonymity for a long time. I’m gonna see due date twice. that being said, downey junior is a world class deuche.