
UPDATE: The prospect of FX doing what would be the first series centered on an illegal immigrant character sure brought up a lot of emotions today. Here is the project’s writer Chap Taylor responding to the criticism in some of the comments posted after the story was picked up by the Drudge Report:
I’m not here to insult anyone or make assumptions about their intelligence, patriotism or morality based on the networks they watch or the web sites they view. I would just like to respectfully make the following points:
1.) I am a middle-aged white guy, a practicing Roman Catholic, and a former Army paratrooper (peacetime). I am about as American as American gets. I would appreciate it if you would not pre-judge my character and intentions before you actually see the show.
2.) The pilot script hasn’t even been written yet. For people from any background to decide the value of a show before it even exists on paper, let alone has been shot, edited and broadcast is a little unfair.
3.) As several people on this comments thread have pointed out, some of the most beloved films and television programs of the last fifty years have featured characters who are gangsters, thieves and/or murderers. Aside from CITIZEN KANE, THE GODFATHER is pretty regularly named the greatest American movie ever made. The protagonist of that movie orders dozens of murders, presides over a nationwide criminal network, and ultimately murders both his brother and his brother-in-law.
4 ) The pedophile/rapist comparisons are a little out of line. I mean, seriously, watch the show before you say our lead is the moral equivalent of a guy who rapes kids.
5.) We absolutely do not intend to whitewash anyone. It will not be a show about beastly white folks or saintly immigrants. Like any good drama, we hope to make a show about people in extreme circumstances who have to make decisions – some good, some bad, and some really ugly.
6.) If we’re lucky enough to get on the air, I would respectfully request you watch the first episode before you decide one way or the other. If you then decide that you want to express your disapproval by boycotting the show, that is your right. I know, because I spent three years of my life defending it.
EXCLUSIVE 1:30 PM: It is a premise that would no doubt spark controversy. FX has put in development the first major series project centered on an illegal alien character, a drama from Changing Lanes writer Chap Taylor about an illegal Mexican immigrant working as a private investigator. TV and film director Rodrigo Garcia, born in Colombia, has come on board to direct and executive produce the project, described as “Traffic meets Chinatown.” Also executive producing are Taylor, Dawn Parouse & Marti Noxon of Grady Twins and Garcia’s frequent collaborator, producer Julie Lynn.
Once a staple on TV, the private eye genre has almost disappeared in the past decade or so. The networks have taken numerous stabs at launching a new PI series, including such high-profile recent efforts as ABC’s Marlowe remake, NBC’s Rockford Files reboot and HBO’s noir comedy Bored to Death, which was just renewed for a third season. But Taylor says that most PI shows “have really focused on the style – fedora, trench coat, etc. – and not on the essence of what a PI is: a powerless individual sticking up for other people without power in a corrupt society.” He points to Raymond Chandler’s Philip Marlowe who lived in the fringe of Los Angeles at a time when the city was riddled with corruption. Taylor decided to look for a contemporary counterpart to Marlowe, asking himself: “Who today is on the outer fringes of Los Angeles but sees everything?” The answer – an illegal immigrant from Mexico.
In addition to relying on his own sleuthing skills, by being an illigal immigrant, the PI on the show will be able to tap into a network of other immigrants. “It’s an invisible network of people we don’t pay attention to who see everything,” Taylor said. “They take care of our kids, they mow our lawns, they deliver our food, they mop the floors at our offices, they park our cars. They know if we recycle, and they know if we are cheating on our wives.” The PI drama will be dark and authentic, and Taylor stresses that this it not turn into “the immigrant of the week” story. “The theme is about helping the powerless in a corrupt society who can be from the immigrant or the Anglo community,” he said, noting that a trophy wife in Beverly Hills who is completely dependent on her husband “is just a powerless as her cleaning lady.” He added that the show won’t be limited to Latino illegal immigrants only, as a plumber could be a professor from Poland and the bagger at the grocery story may be a philosophy major from Montreal.
The project is taking on the hot-button issue of illegal immigration, and Taylor is well aware that it would probably stir controversy and possible accusations that, with an illegal as the hero, the show glorifies people who are in this country illegally. But “in Los Angeles and in the U.S., people’s lives are built on the labor of those immigrants,” Taylor said. “Our job is to tell good stories as honestly as we possibly can. If everyone is mad at us, we’ve done our job.” Garcia, son of Columbian author Gabriel Garcia Marquez, directed the pilot for HBO’s Big Love and is executive producing the network’s drama series In Treatment, which he co-developed. Garcia, Taylor and Grady Twins are repped by WME.
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Just let me know which advertisers to boycott, and which network execs to call. Glorify the law breakers – the illegals?? I don’t think so Tim.
Do you boycott Breaking Bad, there’s a fair chunk of law breaking going on there. What’s your take on Boardwalk Empire? The Sopranos?
Those shows have lead characters that violently MURDER people. Oh, but a show about a PI who happens to be undocumented, why, that’s beyond the pale (rolls eyes)
Nikki, you have got to put the brakes on these Drudge losers who have infected your site.
You mean censorship. Right?
but censorship is the liberal way.
bigotry and ignorance, whilst rightfully protected speech, are still bigotry and ignorance. As such we do everyone a disservice by affording such beliefs the same respect we would give to a point of view with we merely disagreed.
Well, good thing Funk Dubious is here to decide what’s racist and bigoted, thereby protecting all of us undermisedumacated rubes!
I didn’t know this site is run by the government. Thanks for the insight.
No, more like “quality control”. This site used to be about the industry and primarily frequented by people IN the industry, not mouth breathing losers who run to Drudge to be spoon-fed their daily outrage.
Such hostility. Calling people you disagree with as mouth-breathers and losers.
If you’re so “elightened” and “evolved”, surely you can use your superior intellect and refute our arguments.
JustaGuy, what arguments are you guys actually putting forth other than screaming and outrage? You realize that television is pretend don’t you?
The point is that until recently, this site mostly was an “inside baseball” site that focused mostly on SGA/WGA politics, agency comings and goings, and greelit projects. Most of the conversation was civil and generally kind of wonky.
However, Drudge began linking articles here and all of a sudden hundreds of new commentators screaming political slogans proclaiming “I’ll never watch __________ because of ___________”. Frankly, most of the Drudge readers have shown their intellectual limitations for all the world to see in their own posts. They add nothing to the conversation, they have nothing to say. Go run along to your echo chamber at Big Hollywood and leave the conversation to the adults.
Gee Pete. Rather elitist of you. I’m hurt that you don’t want to let us in to play. I feel like…like I’m here undocumented. What credentials do I need to be IN? Do you see this? You are one of us. Difference is THEY are here illegally. We’re not!
Sigh, Pete your venom decries your own inflexible ideology.
Oh, Please Pete, people “in” the industry lack both quality and control.
OK, so as long as I agree with you I am not a knuckle dragger. I guess alot of those types just voted, more seats changed hands than any time since 1932. Of course not all liberals are democrats, but it just seems that way. Wow you are so enlightened and tolerate, NOT!
Pete says “Industry” like it’s what built this Country.
It’s more like a mind-F^cking operation to brainwash the masses.
Lefties are Loons……..
You can always tell those who have no factual, truthful, logical argument. They start childishly calling those they disagree with all sorts of names from bigot to “mouth breather”.
When I mention that I’m against illegal aliens people do the same to me – claim that I’m racist, in fact, because (according to them) I supposedly “hate Mexicans”.
First, Mexicans are considered to be Caucasians (are you suggesting they are Asian or African when you claim I’m racist?) and second, where in “illegal alien” did I say anything about Mexicans or hispanics? I don’t care what their race, ethnicity or country of origin is. My issue is their immigration status. If they can’t or won’t come here legally and properly they shouldn’t be here. Period.
The problem, as I see it, isn’t that the American people have any disillusion that television is more reality than story….but that this show will show the actual life of an “illegal immigrant”, and seeing as how it is to be a drama, this life will be a difficult one, likely. This will take those Americans that relate real world and television, and get them sensitized towards illegals. Im sorry, I wish them the best in life….just not here illegaly. I think that this sensitization is going to cause more acceptance of illegal aliens. You see, the problem, while the fact that they are illegal and are milking off of our system is big, is that if these people can get in…who else is getting in that will do horrible things to the country? For any attempt to stymie the flow, though, Obama and his douche bags will just sue your state. Please, FX, dont bring any attention to the life of illegals….you wouldnt feed a bear…because the bear might approach another human for more, and hurt them. Eff EWE Illegals!
So, an illegal alien P.I. from Mexico who is able to somehow be licensed from the state, avoid being deported, taking money and work from legal citizens, paying no taxes, and being protected by shrill do-gooders thinking themselves enlightened by failing to follow the law.
Mystery detective series??? Sounds more like a Reality TV show to me.
Illegal immigration goes beyond just being illegal. They take our jobs. They DO come over here and commit other crimes(a friend of mine was raped by 3 illegals spics!). They do NOT pay taxes, all the while working for the American dollar to send home to Mexico. There is NO other country where illegals immigrate only to have the citizens REQUIRE that the students learn their language(my daughter is required in her public school to learn Spanish!). GET! OUT! And take that stupid “Day without a Mexican” movie with you! Liberals can go with them.
Every DrudgeReport linked article ends up the same way. Thoughtless herd comments, name calling, then cries of censorship. It is a model that works. Everyday thousands of drudge readers win the internet argument.
The CA and NY LIBS just doesn’t get it. It’s not about discrimination, it’s called the constitution and laws upheld. Illegal is illegal, but of course, if you disagree with a LIB, you are a bigot or racist. Take a trip to the Real America!
glorifying illegals is not right. they BROKE THE LAW! and before you cry racist and bigot, i am of German,Irish, Phillipino and native American decent. i spent my youth on the Reservation. i served in the United States marine Corps. i EARNED my RIGHTS.
so glorifying people who BREAK the LAW is TEACHING CHILDREN that they dont HAVE to OBEY the LAW! is that what you really want?
TOTAL AND COMPLETE ANARCHY!
this is my first time here. and the first thing i noticed, is that it appears that long time posters who are liberal seem to be elitist and superior in their attitudes to those that differ from theirs. i have noticed that they dont try to use LOGIC, FACTS and PROOF of anything, they just start of with insults.
are these people really what the liberals represent?
Censorship on a website is fine. If someone doesn’t want certain comments on their site, that’s their right. No one has the “right” to say what they want on a privately owned website. Our 1st Amendment has nothing to do with it. Period.
Pete,
There is no such thing as an “undocumented immigrant.” The legal terms are citizens, naturalized citizens and illegal immigrant. Undocumented immigrant is used to try and lessen the crime that is taking place by making it sound as if they simply don’t have their papers with them as opposed to them being here illegally. At least get your vernacular right.
And, if there was a move to make legal murder, drugs, etc., like there is with illegal aliens, then you bet there would boycotts going on.
You are correct – calling them “undocumented immigrants” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist” or a pimp an “entertainment director”.
Or a murderer an “involuntary euthanologist”.
Are you freaking serious? You’re really comparing being an illegal immigrant to being a drug dealer? This is what’s wrong with this country! This is utter nonsense! Being illegal to be fair is like a misdemeanor in the criminal world. Sure, they’re here without permission but being here isn’t exactly hurting anyone. The mistake most people make is the same you are making here. For some reason, people automatically assume if you;re here illegally then you’re part of the criminal element that plagues our nation. It’s the same way people attribute Muslim to terrorist. We have to find to a way to judge each person based on their own merits. When we lump everyone into a group, we all lose.
>>Sure, they’re here without permission but being here isn’t exactly hurting anyone.
Really ?!?!?!? I was born and raised in So.Cal. I lived there until 2005. I saw tons of day labor camps taking money from unemployed carpenters and income tax from my child’s school. I went into the ER when my kid was 2 and running a fever of 105 with Tylenol not lowering it. I waited 14 hours because of all the illegals. I watched the two ERs, one 5 miles and one 12 miles from my house, close because they couldn’t pay their bills from the lack of payment from people with no SSN and a fake address (illegals). Then my nearest ER was 24 miles away…..Comforting. I watched my insurance rates go up because illegals don’t have driver’s licenses and don’t have insurance and my uninsured motorist coverage premium kept going up every year.
Did I mention I’m a cop? I take a report every other day on an average of some retiree who hasn’t had a credit card in 20 years having trashed credit because “Jose Jimenez” or “Juan Garcia” or somebody with a culturalistically similar name is running up bills. Some would say is great because they are paying taxes. Wrong. The local community doesn’t ever see any of that money. They are on food stamps (and all the other free programs) and send all that money back to Mexico. It never gets injected back into the local community, along with the absence of food bought at the store / sales tax, property tax, etc.
If you think being illegal isn’t hurting anyone, you are either living in Antarctica away from everyone or still be in the second grade and believe in Santa. Illegals are robbing us of tons of money, and I just gave you many many victims, from private citizens and whole communities to nation as a whole. Time to wake up.
J.A., Are you serious? “Sure, they’re here without permission but being here isn’t exactly hurting anyone.” Yes, they are hurting plenty of people. Sending Billions back home to Mexico, Crowding emercency rooms, Gangs popping up all over the country. Watch Gangland a few times and you’ll see that the 1980′s amnesty was a disaster as latino gangs spread across the country like a virus in the 1990′s. This isn’t knuckle dragging mouth breathing, it’s fact. Go to arizona and check out the national parks with warning signs that say you might be attacked by illegal immigrants in this area.
Bob Roberts, what a great comment. Hillarious indeed !
Actually, proper American vernacular would be, “undocumented immigrant.” To call a person an “illegal immigrant” connotes a human being can be against the law, which I think we can all agree is impossible. That is, one can do something that is illegal, one can behave illegally, but one cannot be, in the strictest sense, illegal.
Illegal Alien is a time honored term – illegal immigrant is meant to categorize a class of people that have more permanent residence in mind, though they are illegal aliens as well. One becomes illegal by virtue of the fact one is in violation of law. It’s a status, not a denigration. I am surrounded by legals and illegals in the deep south, and i had a boyfriend that had to return to central america because his visa expired. I knew if he stayed, he risked ever being “legal”. Not fun. I also read Druge, along with 700 million other visitors a month.
@ Raul – Sorry, but you’re incorrect. “Illegal alien” is correct because a person CAN be against the law.
Just as calling someone a “thief” successfully identifies them (as opposed to “undocumented possessor”) or calling someone a “murderer” identifies them (as opposed to “undocumented executioner”). I can think of fifteen to twenty million people who ARE against the law. Or, I guess, fifteen million AND ONE, now that I’ve met you.
Seriously, this ridiculous political correctness in the name of lawbreakers is beyond me. I mean, would you prefer the term “wetback” be used toward illegals as “thief” and “murderer” are toward the people that they described? Yeah, I didn’t think so. Remember: a lot worse words than “illegal alien” (which, by the way, describes an ALIEN, i.e. “one who is not a citizen,” who is ILLEGAL, i.e. “not here legally”).
I could totally go into the obvious failures of our public education system here, but I think my point is made.
ILLEGAL ALIENS IS THE PROPER TERM.
Cosign Pete. People, this is a showbiz website. You want to talk politics, find someplace else.
Murph/Pete: Is it me or is the fact that this is a showbiz site talking about a program that is politically targeted towards a very hot political issue not render your argument a bit silly? You two sound like all hat and no cows to me. I just see people responding and questioning and defensive reactions by the “insiders”. You are just hearing from a market focus group on this concept, ahead of the marketing department and free no less. Don’t like what the focus group is telling you…you change the concept not the focus group. Seriously, they’ve been doing it with dog food, diapers, and beer for years. You should check it out.
You and others turn everything into a political debate. Literally, someone leaving their job for moral reasons becomes an excuse to discuss, as some of you did, how evil liberals are in Hollywood. The subject matter is pretext for you to push your political agenda at the site.
so you are saying that if you dont agree with what people are saying, that you decide they dont deserve to be here?
mighty uppity arent we?
Maybe we should have a show about the illegal executioner in NJ that was just sentenced, how about that seeing that you left wingers are trying to attach some level of equivocation to this. Don’t any of you left wingers subscribe to the idea that these people should make an attempt to straighten out their own country.
Before you respond please remember that loose points with the liberal left if you don’t use the phrase “Fear Monger” or the words “Bigot”, “Hater”. You get extra points if you use all three, try it – you might win a trip or a Horse (you hate cars and anything like that so we figure you’d love a horse)
They could call it “Doing the Jobs that Americans Won’t” or some such.
I won’t call you a bigot because I don’t know you. You could an outstanding citizen for all I know. As John Stewart said, save the labels for people who have proven time and time again they deserve it. With that said, and as the son of illegal immigrants, I agree and disagree with you. Not all liberals are as bad as you’ve been told. We are, for the most part, as sensible as the average conservative. I don’t take to name calling. I may be outraged by some claims but we should be able to speak like civilized people. I wish, for the sake of my parents and the family members I have south of the border that things could be as good for them as they have been for us. But their problem isn’t as simple as most think. As you’ve probably seen on the news, there is a terrible battle being fought throughout Mexico in an effort to achieve what you propose, they are finally fighting back against the cartels and criminal element in order to free themselves of the corruption. Put yourself in their shoes. If you were living in extreme poverty and despair knowing no matter how hard you work everyday, it seems like you’re not making any progress. Now imagine having a family to take care in that same situation. You think that with the image the United States projects to the rest of the world is not appealing? To them, the only thing standing in the way of a better life is a fence. Tell me you wouldn’t cross it if you were in their situation.
I’m not advocating for the borders to be taken down, I’m not an idiot. We need to be able to protect ourselves from invaders. The only way to stop the bleeding is to lend them our aid. To pretend that Mexico is part of the US and help them in their fight to improve their quality of life. We’ve helped other countries before. By helping them, we not only help ourselves by eliminating a large portion of the immigration problem but it also gives us a big, BIG in into many of the untapped resources of that country. Keeping your mind open, we can do amazing things that way.
So, J.A…you were an anchor baby? Or perhaps one of your older siblings? You say that the average Mexican is starting to fight back against the corruption in Mexican government, against the cartels. Then how do you explain the 14 police officers that quit in Los Ramones just last week? The entire police department quit after their building was shot up by the cartels. Yeah, that sounds like fighting back to me! I haven’t heard anything since about how the Mexican army or Federales or anyone has gone after this group of terrorists. Maybe America would come to the aid of Mexico if Mexico diplomatically requested our assistance. Yeah, right, like that would ever happen. No, this is the Aztlan Reconquista and everyone knows it. Mexican leadership allows and promotes through inaction the northern migration of the poorest. If the poorest can make it into the US then they are less of a burden to the Mexican government, and the money they send back home is mostly confiscated by corrupt politicians and cronies at all levels of society. Until the common people of Mexico decide to revolt against their government, nothing will change. We can help foster that revolution by shutting down our southern border. When the Mexican population has nowhere left to go suckle, they will then begin to examine the problems and people that plague their own nation. We did it ourselves here in the US 225 years ago.
JA, you’re right since I don’t know you I won’t call you a bigot or a racist. But reviewing your comments indicates that you love trite political slogans and dislike serious analysis of complex problems, preferring the simplistic and trite.
Yes lets pretend Mexico is part of the USA. I’m sure the anchor babies pretend that the USA is part of Mexico. What an amazing approach to illegal immigration. Have you thought of applying for Nancy Pelosi’s job?
you admit you are an illegal. so you are admitting that you have no RESPECT for the LAW! if you did, you would turn yourself and your parents in to the AUTHORITIES and receive JUSTICE!
and another problem with your theory is the fact that the crime along the border has spread from Mexico to all US border States.
phoenix, Az is now the number two kidnapping capital of the world. why? because of illegal aliens bringing their CULTURE WITH THEM!
We should have that show if it would get ratings. Look, if “An American Carol” had been a hit, it would have spawned sequels.
Its money, not politics, that rules Hollywood. As it should, as Hollywood is pretty much the last place in America that makes a product that’s so desirable we can sell it as an export.
I would watch this.
The line about who illegals “are” is straight out of fight club and the idea of a hidden network of people who are beneath the radar dates back to the Three Investigator’s “ghost-to-ghost” network.
But just to point out that when you make an ad hominem attack based on a news outlet you sound like a fool.
Is F/X a TV Channel? Exactly. That is why they have to do something to grab attention to this toilet of a cable channel.
Marquez, your dad was a good author and I like his books. Should he have won a Nobel Prize? No. It was because the liberals want to reward people of color – not their achievements (Obama, Arafat, et al). There really hasn’t been anything substantial come from Central or South America. The Macarena? What else?
como se dice ignorant en espanol?
Blatant racism? That didn’t take long. Isn’t time to logon to your Faith and Founders class at “Glenn Beck University”?
Racism? Where?
I think people that call other people racist need to define it and give an example. Because it certainly isn’t being used as the definition states. My grandfather was a racist. Most people have no clue what racism really is. lol There is no watered down version of it.
I will try to explain your racism. You said the “[i]t was because the liberals want to reward people of color – not their achievements (Obama, Arafat, et al).” Obama is the first president of the United States, this is quite an achievement but you dismiss it because he is a person “of color.” He achieved that position against great odds by inspiring a nation. Another great achievement. He obtained a law degree coming from a single parent home and poverty. He has lived the greatest of the American dream.
But you believe it was just given to him because he is of color. Pure Racism.
I meant “first black president of the United States”
Bubba – If you read my comments you will see I was referring to Obama being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, not Prez. He was awarded by his color because 99% of liberals are racist, like yourself, and don’t judge people by their character, but by the color of the skin. The exact opposite of what Dr. King taught.
That’s absolutely ridiculous. Gabriel García Márquez dominates the magical realism genre. In fact, I would go as far as to say that he practically developed and defines that genre of literature. You have no idea what you’re talking about, so don’t say that the Macarena is the only thing that has come out South America.
Also, I don’t see what that bashing of Márquez had to do with this article…
“Magical realism,” as a genre, is absolute tripe. That isn’t to say the stories are necessarily bad, but just call it what it is: Fantasy. “Magical realism” is just a weasel word certain authors use so they don’t have to be pigeonholed into the fantasy genre, and looked down upon by supposedly valid critics who have preconceived notions about that genre.
Your basic point, that there are plenty of good things that have come out of South America, is absolutely valid, but listing a made-up name for an existing genre as one of them doesn’t help your point any.
“Magical Realism,” as a genre, is absolute tripe. That isn’t to say that stories in that “genre” are necessarily bad; in fact some of them are really quite good. But don’t be afraid to call it what it is: Fantasy.
“Magical Realism” is just a weasel-word that certain authors use to distance themselves from the fantasy genre, and avoid being pigeonholed and looked down upon by supposedly valid critics who have preconceived notions about fantasy.
Your basic point that there are plenty of good things to have come out of South America is absolutely a valid one. However, listing a cowardly, made-up word for a pre-existing genre as one of these things doesn’t help your point any.
Didier:
Yeah let’s hear it for Castro, Liberation theology, Che, Peronism, and TeleMundo!
“Undocumented”? You mean “illegal”, right? One can be illegal but be caring immigration papers–its called overstaying your visa. Maybe Johnny Boarderjumper has his drivers license and passport but didn’t go through the boarder crossing–are they undocumented? They’re certainly illegal.
Jacka**.
Wow, Douche pouch you really do feel me. Ha!
If you and your criminal alien buddies are so great couldn’t mexico use them at home to make that country better?
You really don’t get it, Nikki’s revenue is directly related to the number of hits this website gets. She may hate conservatives, but I’m sure she loves it when Drudge links to this site. If you think this website is supposed to be an exclusive club with a few thousand hits from industry people then you are foolish.
“Happens to be undocumented”? What happened, he woke up one morning and found himself on the other side of the border? Sounds like a case of kidnapping to me. Someone call the federales.
Now excuse me, I need to go to the bank to make a withdrawal that “happens to be undocumented”.
To Pete – Just because someone advocates something you disagree with doesnt mean that they are a. losers or b. that they get their news from Drudge. Talk about stereotyping.
Pete,
Being an intransigent bigot toward people that actually care about the creeping balkanization of California(and other states), who also know that this isn’t innocent entertainment, it’s propaganda, is tiresome..wise up..you too Murph.
I agree this is trying to make a social statement as most liberal Hollywood directors attempt to do. It isn’t necessarily bad… But I’ve lived in AZ for a while and there were clear reasons to address illegal aliens.
Most people, like 6yr olds, believe Hollywood is truth or at least in part. It’s fun to believe that… but remember it is all imaginary.
“Undocumente”…I like that! It’s nice and sanitized and oh so sweetly politically correct!
…of course, those who speak English hear it in their head, and rightfully so, as “Illegal”. Yep…Illegal! Try that one on yourself…
…that having been said, I’m not sure how anyone could cast any kind of judgement on a show that no one knows anything about other than the creator director, pre-producers. I’m gonna watch it, and I’ll bet I’ll enjoy it for what it is…televised entertainment damn near flawlessly written, like most FX offerings.
Oh…and as for Drudge…the title of his link-out is actually 100% accurate. If you can prove otherwise, in some way different than ” HUFF HUFF BUT ITS DRUDGE YOU MOUTH BREATHING CRETIN NAZI!!! IT HAS TO BE BIGOTED AND PREJUDICED AND ALL THATS WRONG WITH THIS COMMU…ER….COUNTRY IF ITS DRUDGE!!! YOU WHITE MALE LUNATIC!! HUFF HUFF HUFF HUFFF…”
sorry, but…it’s TheTRUTH!
How does this person get his PI license being an illegal? Oh, and dealing with the police while investigating; they never deport him? So many things wrong with story line! I will not watch the show and if that is the case will block FX from TV. I love Sons of Anarchy but will not support a channel that produces this kind of show. By the way we have in America more people living in poverty than ever before we need to take care of our own people and stop spending money on those who should not be here sucking up benefits.
The only people who will watch this more than fans of the show are people who hate illegal immigrants.
OK, now you are profiling and hating even more than anyone who doesn’t want our country bankrupted. Do you really think everyone who wants to control our borders is a hater. What kind of sick vicious mind stays up late into the night to depict their own fellow citizens as “Haters” while congratulating themselves for such enlightened commentary. We don’t buy that nonsense anymore. So, get used to getting this type of commentary thrown right back in your face for being either a very vicious person or brainwashed by the left.
another FACTUALLY INCORRECT talking point. our country has been bankrupted by two lengthy and unnecessary wars, and a bloated defense department budget, among other things. please point your fingers elsewhere. gracias.
You’re right in that the 2 wars have been extremely costly (but no, they did NOT bankrupt us). However, there is a key difference you’re choosing to ignore:
1. The wars were based upon the premise that they’re necessary to protect America’s interests, and the lives of US citizens. If I have to overspend and take out debt to protect my family, I will! Similarly, if the government MUST overspend to protect the citizens, it’s just what it has to do.(BTW, I disagree with these particular wars and the premise is incorrect, but I hope you can see the point being made?)
On the other hand, the illegals are murdering, raping, and destroying the lives of US Citizens in MANY cases. 30%+ of the federal prisoners are illegals who are incarcerated for drug dealing. Does that mean anything to you at all?? There is a net loss of revenue from illegal population in the US – they contribute NEGATIVE to the US.
2. The wars, messed up as they might be, were condoned by the US Congress, including your buddy Barry Soetero. Of course, once the wars became unpopular the leftist chameleons changed their colors and acted like they’d always opposed the wars. See the videos on Youtube of Reid, Kerry and multiple other ‘Dem Leaders’ conding the wars and even calling them necessary. You know why? Because after 9/11 it was popular to act like you were a patriot. 5 years later, it wasn’t as ‘cool’, so they changed their talk, and now Barry runs around apologizing to everyone.
Illegals are illegals – the congress has not, and hopefully never will condone their passage into the US. Essentially, they’re breaking the law, and the WH is refusing to act on it. Hollywood (with the clear left bias) is trying to glorify illegals as if they’re completely helpless and harmless individuals. WRONG! tens of thousands of convicted criminals cross the border, not happy-go-lucky family men and women. By comparison, the ‘good, helpless immigrants’ are few and far in-between.
Even if they were so chummy and important to us, what aren’t they changing their nation instead of running here in droves? Why won’t they fight for their rights like we did? Why won’t they work hard and build up their nation like we did?
Your whole argument falls flat on multiple points…pleaes think this through. You’re a fellow citizen (I hope), and this isn’t about the ‘Left vs Right’ – this is about right and wrong, and about the survival and prospering of our nation.
As an actual Licensed Private Investigator, the mere thought of an illegal alien acting in such a capacity is laughable. While California is LaLa Land, they do have licensing laws as do most other states which include fingerprints, SS#, DOB and just about everything else to confirm you are a law abiding LEGAL citizen.Not to mention the liability insurance requirements, the Bonding and other protective measures designed to protect the PI’s and their clients.
So in addition to being an “undocumented immigrant” he’s also an “undocumented PI”? Maybe the one permits the other.
NY PI, he won’t need to be licensed. Here’s how I think the plot will run. The illegal, undercover, super-sleuthy Indocumentado PI, will work mostly gratis, helping victimized members of the community while staying just under the radar of the authorities. Note that he will be helping BOTH Americans and illegals, demonstrating his honor and integrity in an unjust world. He will have a simpatico American law enforcement friend who will help ‘el Zorro nuevo’ by feeding him information, giving him tipoffs so that he can slip away before being apprehended. Likewise, he will spy for the cops as an illegal undercover illegal. Supercop will then claim something nebulous, like dumb luck or opportunity, for his apprehension of the real criminal. Of course, there will be an American love interest for Magnum PI, maybe the Disrict Attorney, or perhaps the Mayor’s daughter who happens to be the star reporter for the local newspaper. She will write of the great exploits of ¡El investigador más grande de los mundos!
Have I missed anything?
“Have I missed anything?”
A few marbles maybe.
FX is owned by FOX. Does that mean Bill O’Reilly and Sarah Palin will watch this show?
Are you fucking kidding me? Have you ever read a book in your life? Have you ever watched a great play, experienced and understood what drama is? Drama is about finding truth in unexpected places. This is a brilliant idea. Seriously, go watch Everybody Loves Raymond, this kind of thing is too good for people like you.
I KNOW Raymond, and I can assure you that he is not loved by EVERYBODY.
I’ll only watch this if they show the illegals getting shot when they trespass on private property in the USA. Now that would be good drama. I guess you would also be okay if I produced a drama about Voter Fraud in the USA. First episode would be something along the lines of having a few union reps carting a bunch of retards to a voting booth and telling them how to vote. Both great drama yet both highly illegal.
THAT’S SIMPLY “DUCKY”! JUST WHAT WE NEED, TO GLORIFY AND ROMANTICIZE
ILLEGAL ALIENS, AT A TIME WHEN WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO CLOSE THE BORDER!
Its a TV show, its not real, watch it or don’t watch no one cares, except those who have no life, get a life there are more import thing to fight over, like Jersy Shore
I’ll gladly join the boycotts. I’ll really miss watching FOX if they continue this idiotic plan to glorify criminal behavior.
Waht the hell are you nuts.
Just another reason why I don’t watch TV series (except House). Last thing I need on the tube is a show glorifying illegal aliens.
People from Drudge watch out comments directed at you maybe from left nut Funknasties!
I don’t see anything wrong with creating any show that does not break any laws. I believe this would be a great show because it would relate to a lot of people.
And lo, the self-righteous walked the land once more…
I’m with you. I don’t care what is written or has not been yet.
I’ve been a HUGE viewer/fan of FOX since day 1…Loved 21 Jumpstreet, Simpsons, Married, etc….Fox News is it for NEWS channels, etc…This goes forward, I will simply read news on Drudge and block ALL Fox channels in my house. Apparently FOX isn’t reading what happened in the elections to the politicians who are pro-illegals…Want to tick us off with TV? Then by all means, make the show…Watch game sales soar as regular people turn off FOX…Ugh, or worse…CNN ratings/NBC/ABC/CBS will all go up and FOX’s down.
I know,
How about doing a show about a family of undocumented workers who come to America, steal a few social security numbers, (causing the owners unknown tax liabilities and credit problems} Then have five children for free in American hospitals and apply for welfare for those new citizens so they don’t have to work while they raise them.
Then you can follow the kids as they reach their early teens, have babies out of wedlock with teenage gang members, apply for welfare and live in section 8 housing.
Drive around Van Nuys, CA. It is pretty much those people who populate the city. Miles and miles of gangs, blocks where you don’t go at night for fear of MS-13. filled with unemployed and willfully uneducated single parents on welfare who have destroyed the city. And of course, there is always the one or two people in the group who actually do work.
The Mexican, El Salvadorans etc.. who stay in their own countries will tell you what they think about the quality of the people who come here, not much. they will tell you many come to work, most come to take advantage of the system.
The “privileged” people who feel sorry for their gardeners don’t follow them back to the neighborhoods they have helped to destroy. They have no idea what damage illegal immigration is doing to this country.
I think this show will tap into a growing demographic that is well on its way to having more consumer power.
Unfortunately there are people that are confused and believe this series glorifies illegals…I think it expands ones perceptions. Where were the protests when shows like Boardwalk Empire (which I like) – show how crooked the government was and sold alcohol through the black market….does it glorify being a crook??…maybe – why isn’t anyone boycotting that show?.
Do I believe that Sons of Anarchy glorifies motorcycle gangs, NO.
Where were the boycotts for shows that glorify narcissim and sexcual behavior?
Let’s not read a book by its cover because we are hindered by xenophobia.
I’m with you! Start calling FX first, that could stop the show before it can ever shoots it’s first episode!
Uh, oh… This made it to Drudge. Now let’s hear the xenophobic mouth-breather take.
This is about law-breakers! Not your accusation of racism and xenophobia!
There’s a part of this society that glorifies certain types of law-breakers (illigal immigrants) I’m not one of them.
So, you react this strongly to shows about lawbreakers such as Breaking Bad, Sopranos, Mad Men (Don Draper is AWOL after all), Dexter, Big Love, Weeds, House (doctor who’s a drug addict), Boardwalk Empire, etc. etc. etc.
I don’t watch those shows. But when the contextual opportunity presented itself, yes, I have!
Well if he doesn’t, I react. I actually don’t watch any of those shows. And have not. I also won’t watch this show. Shows that glorify and exalt criminality have no place on television where our kids can view them and be influenced. But I guess that is the point, to try and brainwash our kids.
(spit-take)…what about the kids, won’t someone think about the kids???
Did you “think about the kids” every week when Jack Bauer was pulling out someone’s fingernails?
Did you “think about the kids” every week when Brisco and Curtis were at a crime scene where a raped nude woman’s body was found?
Did you “think about the kids” when Sam Malone slept with flight attendents and enabled the addictions of half a dozen roaring alcoholics?
Of course not, you watched those shows and stayed silent.
if you’re worried about shows that exalt criminality you should start by turning off c-span, cnn, and fox news.
Just stop spewing your poison peter. Your views are baseless and you can’t even drum up a competent argument.
So, literally any program that features a lead character who is a lawbreaker makes you react the same way people are reacting to this show?
Next time Nikki puts up a post about Dexter (you know, where the lead is a serial killer), I’ll bet you a shiny dime that we won’t see Drudge bots foaming at the mouth here.
Actually, I do strongly object to shows like Weeds, Dexter, and Big Love. As far as the other programs go, their law-breaking is depicted as a character flaw.
Just because you interpret those other shows that way doesn’t mean that’s what they are.
You obviously watch too much tv. Get out and experience the real society. See what it’s like to have your son broadsided by someone who turns out to be an illegal. Then he flees the country. Not only are we left holding the bag for medical bills that will go on for years and years, but we don’t even get the small satisfaction that this pig will face justice. Or, have your police officer husband make a traffic stop on a stolen vehicle only to be shot 6 times in the back of the head because this child molester that he pulled over has been deported twice before and even stated that he killed the officer because he didn’t want to get deported again. Get a life Pete and come out and meet reality. These are the illegals WE deal with.
The funny thing is that the roofers who put up my new roof were pretty obviously undocumented. What was weird was that they didn’t rob me, assault my wife, crash my car, shoot me, none of that.
They did a great job on the roof, cleaned up the mess, had me sign some paperwork, and went on their way.
Pete, As with all liberals, given enough rope you will hang yourself. Explain to me exactly, how were your roofers “pretty obviously undocumented”? Did you ask them or are your profiling based on the fact they are darker skinned than you and speak spanish? Just because they are “Latino” and roofing your house they must be illegals? You, sir, are a typical liberal, elitist hypocritical racist…and BTW, if you did ask them and they answered they are illegal, you too are a criminal.
Liberals are the worst kind of racists. You pretend to care about minorities and act on their behalf because, according to you, they couldn’t possibly help themselves.
“No Irish need apply”
“The Jewish problem”
And here and now it’s stuff like:
“The Balkanization of California..”
“Illegals that rob and crash into us…”
It’s not the desire to enforce laws that is worrisome, it’s the sentiment underneath exhibited by too many of those foaming at the mouth about this issue.
Cutting,
Your points are irrelevent in this discussion. Those are cases of discrimination against “legal” residents. We are discussing illegal aliens right now. Unfortunately for you libs, in this issue and so many others, you assume everyone else has the same underlying racist fears you do. Your fears, and your guilt about such fears, causes you to make irrational and immature arguments.
The simple reality is we have looked the other way on this issue for far too long and now need to enforce the law. We have real grown-up problems in this country, and one of them is an increasing population of illegals, and the companies hiring them, stealing from the legal residents and citizens of this great nation. They need to go back to their country and fix their own problems or get in line, and enter the country the right way. They way my parents and grandparents, and probably yours, did.
This comment actually goes to @Pete below. While your roofing shouldn’t be the parameter for the illegal immigration debate (though it does underscore illegals taking jobs from citizens,) since you brought it up, we had contracting work done on our house by what turned out to be illegals. They used the license of a licensed contractor, lied about it, also lied about their skills and experience, ended up making a disaster of time, money, mess and stress. They were fired obviously and new guys had to come in and first undo what they did. The first guys ended up being “coyotes” and they are vicious. They came back and ransacked the property, stealing and vandalizing. The cops did nothing and even if they would’ve they said these guys are untraceable ghosts because they’re illegal. These guys come here and lie about their skills, destroy hardworking people’s properties with criminal acts and inferior incompetent work (while property taxes fund their kids’ schooling,) and then disappear back into the shadows. It’s not a romantic basis for a detective show.
All those shows you listed off there are all punishable offenses and while committing those crimes or have committted the crime a suspect can be stopped questioned arrested and face the death penalty for murder. As an illegal it is unlawful to ask as to status, natinality and identity so yes Screw that show.
sincerely Eddie Gonzalez
Well said T.
Now you are expert on legal matters regarding punishment regarding being an illegal alien? for the record, you demonstrate how ignorant you are. The punishment for being caught illegally in the US are: 3 year bar for anything longer than 6 months, 10 year bar for anything longer than a year, and life time bar plus having gone to jail if one commits a felony while being here. THe idea that there is no punishment is a joke. It just reflects your lack of knowledge of the subject matter of which you speak. This is not including the issue of being able to be harmed here, but not being able to go to the police to address it.
You sir, are a bigot.
I clearly indicated my issue with the show: the central character is a law breaker, and your response is to call me a bigot.
Please don’t redefine common terms in the lexacon.
Having an issue with law breaking is NOT bigotry. Perhaps you should consult a dictionary before you submit your posts.
You sir, are an idiot.
Now that’s better! I’ve presented a logical and consistant argument, and I have been called a bigot, an idiot and a mouth breather. I was beginning to think liberals on this site weren’t true liberals. True liberals know how to name-call!
Short on logical argument, but very long on ad-hominem attacks! That’s what I typically observe from true liberals.
Ad homenims plus the occasional “tu quoque” argument, ie if you watch the Sopranos you can’t complain about this.
Argument? What argument. You don’t want to watch a show about an illegal immigrant/detective. That’s not an argument, that’s a personal decision. I guys you didn’t watch “Scarface” or “Goodfellas” or “The Godfather” either, right?
I love you JustAGuy. Will you marry me?
>> Uh, oh… This made it to Drudge. Now let’s hear the xenophobic mouth-breather take.
I invite you to put a sign in your yard, or outside the door of your residence, letting everyone know you’re home is open and everyone is welcome to enter and use what they please.
good point.
i’m sure the native americans had this sign on plymouth rock when europeans moved in
Yeah, the Iragis should put up that sign, too.
Why all the hate? Where’s the love?
well we have already heard from the limp-wristed, utopian crybabies ( ie: YOU )
The xenophobic mouth-breather take? Here it is, you fool:
“Am I a racist to feel alarmed by that?” Bill Maher asks his guests. “Because I am. And it’s not because of the race, it’s because of the religion. I don’t have to apologize, do I, for not wanting the Western world to be taken over by Islam in 300 years?”
A real “mouth-breather” huh. Don’t bother your little pea brain trying to point out the different topic, while not understanding the principle is the exact same.
Mouth breathers … wow …. you are a genius. Perhaps they will hire you as a writer on the the show. Or maybe cast you as a character who is a hypocrite, but is too stupid to realize it.
File this under “refreshing”. Finally a show with an intriguing and resonant concept and (presumably) lead character. Enough of teen vampires and white suburban-centered crap. Well done, FX.
The truth is not what you will try and show –YOU WON’T SHOW THE GOV. ASST. PLANS HIS FAMILY IS USING AND THE FREE SCHOOLING HIS CHILDREN ARE GETTING AND THE PRISON WHERE HIS RELATIVE IS IN –YOU WILL NOT TELL THE TRUTH –GO TO THE CARTELS AND ASK THEM HOW MANY AMERICAN HOMES THEY HAVE BOUGHT FOR FAMILIES OF PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR THEM —YOU WILL ONLY SHOW THE LITTLE HELPLESS PERSON BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF BY THE BAD NORTH AMERICAN ESTABLISMENT BUT FIRST READ THE MEXICAN IMAGRATION LAWS TO THE PEOPLE WATCHING –DON’T TELL ONLY HALF THE TRUTH
Well, I will file my comment under yours since it isn’t filled with hate and that is ‘refreshing’.
Anyway, there is no PI show that will ever top Magnum PI…the islands, the Ferrari, that great Hawaiian shirt, Tom Selleck, TC, Rick, Higgins, even Zeus and Apollo.
I’ll catch the pilot to see if it works but the bar is set awfully high.
Maybe the lead will get arrested and deported
LOL
lmao! It’s funny because it’s true!
Hahahaha. That’d be awesome.
I would watch THAT!
An illegal immigrant who’se a PI? I won’t watch it!
…and don’t call me racist! I don’t care what race the illegal immigrant is, I WON’T WATCH IT!!!
I am with you—I WON’T WATCH IT!
All illegal aliens must be deported and quickly.
I’m curious which other shows you don’t watch based upon the morality? Breaking Bad (drug dealing)? Sopranos (murder and extortion)? You do know that TV is make believe, right?
season finale He becomes President…..
Will he end up being his own first case? “By jove! There is an illegal alien afoot!”
(They didn’t tell you that the main character is going to be British, did they?)
Why? There are programs that feature characters that arguably do substantially worse things.
I don’t watch those shows either.
And they are portrayed as law breakers. I am not sure of any episode of the Sopranos where it was not thought of as against the law for Tony to kill someone.
Do you suspect Jorge the PI will ever be investigated for breaking the law like the other “feature characters that arguably do substantially worse things”?
Let me answer “HE!! NO
Yeh, there are more lousy sots out there. But the point being made here is that our sovereignty, which is already being exploited by our own government and greedy employers, will be further crapped on by the illegals who are being elevated as “respectable,” although they came here illegally and have no desire to actually BECOME AMERICANS, as in, learn OUR language, stay off welfare, and leave their culture back in that horrid country from which they fled. Yeh, we’re real proud of mexico right now, aren’t we?
And for the record, for those who continue to believe the propaganda that they “built this nation,” do your homework. Oh, that’s right! The public schools no longer teach truth – just more propaganda….
So, St. Patrick’s Day…was that invented in America by Americans? Or, does that reflect Irish culture that wasn’t “left back in their country”?
How about Oktoberfest?
Polka music?
Oh, it’s when the people are brown, then all of a sudden cultural expression is not permitted?
In other words, you believe that upholding the law is essentially due to Racism? I don’t understand your premise here… In the Southwest, the Hispanic culture has been celebrated for decades: Cinco de Mayo, cities and landmarks with Spanish names, Mexican/Tex-Mex restaurants, etc.
It’s about the law – not the race, culture, or heritage of an individual. You seem to be the one that characterizes individuals on the basis of race. And that is a Typical Liberal.
Again Pete, you are the one with the race problem. You keep bringing it back to race. How exactly do you know your roofers are, say it with me, “illegal”? Was it only because they were brown and spoke spanish? Did you ask them? You are a fraud and a troll. Put down the bong, get off your mother’s couch, ask her for some money for a suit and go interview for a job.
Of course a job would be easier for you to get if the illegals didn’t have them. Ok. now respond by calling me a mouth-breather.
No, Pete. Sovereignty’s point is clear with me… Illegal Aliens are in America now so they should stop acting like they are still in Mexico!! This isn’t a third world country! You don’t have to FIGHT, RAPE, and PILLAGE to survive here!
lmfao!
what about all the white people here who don’t know the language and are on welfare and who have done nothing to build this nation? oh, right, if it’s brown, put it down. and, i think you’re all set with the propaganda – good luck.
suck it
Oh, because there are aren’t any lazy, fat, white trash, rednecks without an OUNCE of culture or education, on welfare? With their twenty trailer trash babies? Is that the “American culture” you are referring to that “Mexicans” should be learning? Low literacy rates (the US ranks 27th out of 205 countries…) and an addiction to McDonalds and Twitter?
Ever watch Teen Mom? Those are all white girls having kids as teenagers…and Bristol Palin? Glorified, on dancing with the stars, for teen pregnancy? If these were black or brown mothers, it would be an abomination, a drain on our resources…it’s a double standard, and as a tax paying citizen, I am quite sick of it myself. There should be a TV show about hypocritical white people who blame the welfare state on minorities while enjoying it themselves…
Personally, I’m sick of paying for young horny “Christian” mothers who keep having babies because they are too stupid and religious to use contraception or have an abortion. (This is regardless of race.)
What? Because there aren’t lazy, fat, uneducated, redneck white trash living off off welfare? With their twnety trailer trash babies? Is that the American culture you speak of, an addiction to McDonalds or Twitter?
If you want to talk welfare abuse, how about all those young horny “Christians” who are too stupid or relgious to use contraception or get an abortion? Those are a drain on our resources…yet there is MTV’s Teen Mom and Bristol Palin on Dancing With The Stars, glorifying ignorant white girl pregnancy.
Generally, those “substantially worse things” aren’t endorsed by the show. This show threatens to be the usual SWPL preachment, where the rest of us are told to accept illegal immigration in our neighborhoods and schools so yuppies in gated communities can keep their cheap nannies, maids and gardeners.
At any rate, FX already has a great PI show in Terriers.
How widespread is the MOB issue? The illegal alien issue, in strong contrast, is current and rampant. “Gueto” might as well be named “Buck” (reference to a Western movie character), as far as toying with reality is concerned. There is no real comparison here. Now if you want to compare their method consider what some people have written into television scripts where homosexuality is concerned … not THAT’s a valid comparison. Twenty years ago ‘gay’ comedy was accursed by ‘everyone.’ Now? Shoot-man … They are cute and cuddley, interesting smart and talented ! Wow.
I think that’s the dynamic they are after. Will they succeed?
As there is no edit feature on this site I wanted to correct a single word in my post which I will do by reposting it all (sorry):
How widespread is the MOB issue? The illegal alien issue, in strong contrast, is current and rampant. “Gueto” might as well be named “Buck” (reference to a Western movie character), as far as toying with reality is concerned. There is no real comparison here. Now if you want to compare their method consider what some people have written into television scripts where homosexuality is concerned … now THAT’s a valid comparison. Twenty years ago ‘gay’ comedy was accursed by ‘everyone.’ Now? Shoot-man … They are cute and cuddley, interesting smart and talented ! Wow.
I think that’s the dynamic they are after. Will they succeed?
file this under ‘won’t last more than two episodes’. the american people do not want to watch an illegal alien/criminal mincing around fragrantly.
Fragrantly or flagrantly – either way it seems it’s okay with you to kill people on TV, but to be one of millions of illegal immigrants regularly employed by Americans (including Drudge darling Meg Whitman!), horrible. It’s called drama, get used to it. Can’t wait to see the show, love that Rodrigo Garcia!
Ginger, please stop for a second and reconsider the point being made.
If there was a show on TV that CONDONED murder, theft, rape and such, people would be opposed to it.
The problem with the suggested script is that it attempts to paint a positive image of illegals. It ignores the facts that they break the law, are responsible for the largest import of hard-drugs into US, are a net negative for our revenues and a large % of them are convicted rapists, murderers and sex offenders.
So one show depicts mafia and gangs for what it is – wrong, and messed up. The other depicts illegals not for what they are, but in a flowery ‘positive’ image to appease their elitist left leaning views.
The movie THE PROPOSAL was about an illegal alien mincing about fragrantly. It made $163 million at the box office.
PS: I think you meant “flagrantly”, norm… but I choose to believe Sandra Bullock smells delightful.
sandra bullock was a legal alien from canada her passport expired and she asked someone to marry her so she could stay. she wasnt illegal, einstien. nor was she fragrant..ly get your movie facts right and learn to spell the correct word and use it in context correctly,how old are you?10?
Sandra Bullock was born in Arlington, Va. Was that still a province of Canada in 1964?
Did you watch the Proposal? It was about a foreigner that was to be deported due to her Visa expiring. Up until her deportation order – She was 100% legal and was following our laws. BTW, when her date was finally given to her, she packed her bags and prepared to leave; she wouldn’t defy the law, and her company wouldn’t support her illegality. She was trying to get married in order to avoid deportation…
which is illegal in it of itself, TucsonDevil…
Something like 12 million people watch Boardwalk Empire, a show that has mobsters as their lead character.
Many millions watch Dexter, about a serial killer who works as a forensic scientist.
Pete is 100% correct. I love Dexter as I did the Sopranos and the show’s characters are performing illegal acts. They’ve got my curiosity up with this one, I haven’t seen a good PI show in decades. However, I do object to lashing out at Drudge. All Drudge does is link to stories on the web. Sure he adds the headlines but thats just to attract attention much the way newspapers used to do. If you don’t like the Drudge Report you can read the Drudge Retort; a decidely leftist version of the Drudge Report.
The problem is that Drudge is based on an audience of fire breathing conservatives who lash out first, think second. Therefore, we aren’t suppose to watch a show on the very idea of the show, and meanwhile they whine about being censored when someone points out that they are being extremist.
Yes Pete that’s right, we have our own filth to tell stories about. We don’t need to import it.
I, for one, am incensed. This idea stinks.
lol.
Your first name must be frank.
Cool, fresh idea. If done right, could be really funny and original-
What’s next? A PI series of a guy who solves crime by day and rapes women at night to force info from them. Or maybe a pedophile who uses his child conquests to get information and leads. Yeah, nothing like a bunch of LA TV type sickos glorifying illegal actions.
Really? You’re going to equate people trying to escape rampant extreme poverty and make a better life for themselves and their children with people who commit VIOLENT crimes against helpless women and children?
I really hope you’re joking. Cause if not, you’re a souless fear-monger.
Does this PI have a stinkin’ badge?
No! He won’t need no stinkin’ badge.
FX I’m done–there’s plenty of other networks. Will boycott the advertisers and your station.
You’re boycotting FOX? I hope you realize FX is owned by FOX. Where else would you get your “fair and balanced” TV content?
You’re so dense you probably don’t even realize your comment only undercuts YOUR ilk’s ridiculous “Fox is eeeevil cuz they’re not Leftists like me” nonsense.
My god, you people live in fear.
Josh – you “people” (liberals) live in a fantasyland. You vote an idiot in as President based on platitudes, cheer his administration on as they run up trillions in debt for welfare programs, then sit back and smoke bongs while our economy teeters on the edge of a cliff. Does a crack-pipe make you have no fear of consequences?
Yeah, open the borders, get rid of religion, promote class-warfare, force people to share their wealth with those that do nothing. Imagine there are no liberals, it’s easy if you try.
Eric,
On one hand you complain about “class warfare”, and then you spend most of the rest of your post engaging in it.
Pete, you clearly don’t even know what class warfare is.
more FACTUALLY INCORRECT talking points. the deficit has been lowered and please re-do your math and specifically go back over problems 1. iraq and 2. afghanistan, to locate your $$$. thank you.
Oh…My…God! You ACTUALLY believe the deficit has been lowered???? You must be kidding, because if you aren’t you are incredibly naive or misinformed.
Our national debt is now $13.7 trillion for 2010. It will jump to $18.3T for 2014 due to Obama’s health care reform. Bush’s final year (controlled by the same Democratic Congress) was $9.9 trillion in the hole.
The annual operating deficits – you know, the number that makes the debt rise – are $1.3T for 2010, 1.4T for 2009, and $438 billion for 2008.
So you actually believe that just because Obama spent $128B less this year than last that justifies calling it “deficit reduction”…?!?!?
nah, you won’t… you’re just a troll who gets a kick out of flaunting your misinformed opinions on the internet. also, if you won’t watch fx how will you know which advertisers to boycott?
try boycotting johnson and johnson and GE… they’ve got hands everywhere.
ergo, you’re an idiot.
You can find out through the web sight and e-mail the company’s! Yes I have boycotted before and the sponsors usually respond. If enough people e-mail they will pull support and have in the past! It can be done!
Well, at least it will be easy to tie up the loose ends if the show gets canceled. He was caught and deported. EOS
Does this PI carry a badge?
No!
He don’t need no stinkin’ badge.
when you have a moment, please go back and get a sh*tload of dimes. thanks.
Golly, it’s great to see how in touch liberals are with the rest of society.
what race is an illegal alien from mexico. a mexican?
when did that become a race.
I can see that both sexes in mexico have melted into one androgynous
sodomistic abuser, but did the hundreds of mestizo
indian tribes all weld themselves into a homogeneous race.
like a dog is a dog, regardless of the species, and genus.
Saying that all Hispanics support amnesty for illegal aliens is like saying that all bank customers support bank robbers.
Will this show delve into the three main areas that illegal aliens impact:
Law enforcement
Health care
Public Education
Or will it be a platform to make a Politically Correct commentary on liberal agenda today?
Won’t watch it. Won’t patronize the advertisers. I can’t believe any network would glamorize those that don’t respect this country enough to come here legally.
How does an Illegal get a P.I. license? Interesting Idea. FX has some unique series. I’ll check it out at least once.
I like Garcia’s work, especially HBO’s CARNIVALE. I’d watch it. People who wouldn’t watch — I hope you applied the same rationale — of not watching a show with lawbreakers as protagonists — to the Sopranos, Oz, Sons of Anarchy, Breaking Bad, Weeds, etc.
Illegal alien.
No such thing as an illegal immigrant.
D*** A** gringos no nothing.
Illegal immigrant (hero) is just more of the left’s tired politics and propagandizing of the masses. Mention it or catch them at it and they’ll play their silly little Dan Quayle game of: “it’s just a movie stupid!” And we’re supposed to pretend that they’re going to all this trouble of promoting leftist and Godless junk in the movies and on TV for nothing?
For decades we’ve been forced to watch them destroy religion, capitalism, and make the woman or the black guy save the dumb white man’s butt.
Just because you’re put of by premise of the show doesn’t mean it’s “liberal propaganda”. Just because you read liberal bias in something doesn’t mean there’s a hidden left-wing conspiracy behind it. Calm down. It’s literally just a television series. The script to which has even yet to be written.
Also, what do you mean “destroy religion”? As far as I’m concerned, individual Americans are still guaranteed the freedom to practise the religion of their choosing. If you’re referring to the fact that in government-sanctioned PUBLIC schools there is no longer a “time set aside for prayer” then I would like to remind you of the official separation between Church and State that has been established in the US since its early years.
I have not been able to find the separation of church and state in the Constitution. Amendment 1 Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,…
Unless there is a show about killing illegal immigrants, it won’t catch on. No thanks F/X!
USA: THIRD WORLD RISING.
“If you’re a legit private eye then where’s your green card?”
“Green card? I don’t got no green card! I don’t need no green card! I DON’T GOT TO SHOW YOU ANY STINKIN’ GREEN CARD!!!!”
(Law-breaking arrogant pig of a private dick opens yanks out Colt six-shooter, gets riddled with machine-gun bullets. His leaking America-invading corpse falls into Rio Grande…)
FIN
won’t watch this one–
reason one!!! and only one I’ll ever need
1!!
I wanted to do the work that Americans won’t do(they say) that they gave to a illegal and I’m white too!!
I work in the movie biz here in Cali and when i started out years back I was doing real hard work coiling heavy power cables we use all by hand 50lbs to 150 each –alone and never got a complaint about speed or anything
I then went off to a outta shop on show job for a few days. this was a gravy job to me and only persons with lots of time in biz and tech know how get show work at this company and it pays more.The next day
called into work day after to see if they needed me as usual,I would call every Friday to see if work was on for next week and was told
“nope its slow”.
came into work that Wednesday to pick-up last weeks pay check to find 3 illegals doing my job my “BREAD AND BUTTER” job. The job that paid the bills from month to month a “JOB”WITH HARD LABOR– IN A HOT BUILDING WITH NO FANS!! A JOB THAT AN AMERICAN WAS WILLING TO DO!!!!
and they started to pay them in cash right infrount of me!!!
well that started a screaming match right there and I stormed out!!
I called after I got home the INS and they took info and said that “since its only 3 they might not come out for it” bang goes phone
well later that month that company calls me back– 3 weeks since I left and offers me another”day show job”
I asked if I was going to get regular work in the shop
“nope we have guys”
me “the illegals”
“yep”
so why did you call me? can’t they do it
nope- “they don’t know the high-tech stuff on shows and how to set-up and run them”
me- I’ll take the show job, If you make me permanent in the shop coiling the cable again and “fire the illegals”
cant do
well @#$%$@#$ off and don’t call me I’d rather be on unemployment
so as story goes never say to me that ILLEGAL ALIENS don’t hurt US born/legal citizens because it cost me a job and 10′s of thousands of dollars
nuff said
and this is real story
ohh by the way I’m white and was doing hard back breaking work in socal then and now -if they still let me instead of getting 3 guys at lower pay- no insurance or workman’s comp paid in or taxes collected
You do realize that the likely white owner of the company you worked for made a simple calculation: he could get three people to work for the amount of money he paid you. Capitalism stole your job. Try directing your anger there.
It would be more accurate to say that California’s artifically high minimum wage laws, and all the taxes and other beauracratic red tape that an employer has to deal with to employ someone legally, stole his job from him. If his employer had the option to pay him less, he might very well have taken it. But if he did, he’s be doing something every bit as illegal as hiring the immigrants. That’s not a case of capitalism stealing his job, it’s a case of liberal policies preventing pure capitalism from actually working.
Now, if he then wanted to complain about capitalism keeping his wages too low for his liking, he might have a valid argument. But if he chose not to take the job at that point, it would be his own decision, not somebody else stealing it out from under him.
Admittedly, this opens up a whole new can of worms, in regard to ensuring that workers aren’t blatantly mistreated and exploited, but that is ALREADY happening to people performing those jobs illegally. Wouldn’t you agree that it would be easier to minimize that kind of exploitation if the jobs are not handed out under the table?
In short, capitalism is not the problem here.
and to Vorkon
the min wage law never applied here at all he always paid over scale for all labor till this happened or no one (in the small specialized work force in the industry) would ever work for him (with one exception the illegals in this one case)
so for your statement of “”If his employer had the option to pay him less, he might very well have taken it.”"
does not apply unfortunately –the person I will always see that stole that job was President Ronald Regan –who legalized them all at one point but never put teeth in laws to keep them out from that point forward
so what s your piont?
the company owner was too GREEDY
yep
should the laws in-place made him think twice of hiring an illegal?
DARN sure it should have
just like when I think about not stealing a car or murdering someone
Think I’ll watch this garbage to see which advertisers I need to boycott.. This program is obviously designed for IDIOTS. Advertising aimed at audience will be for “WONDERFULL PRODUCTS”.
The show is destined for failure. FX is trying to go male, and Terriers is pulling in only half a million, with Donal Logue in the lead. Women have not responded to the PI theme (Veronica Mars) because they like romance/soapy stuff. Guys don’t like PC.
There’s a substantial Hispanic audience, but it watches Spanish language stuff. Meanwhile the White audience (outside Malibu) washes its own cars, mows its own lawns, cooks its own meals. That group would prefer Mexicans stay in Mexico, and Americans stay in America. Spending a lot of money to support Mexico’s poor is questionable at any time. Now its even worse when lots of White folks would be happy for a min wage job.
FX will tick off a lot of its White Male targets, without getting anything in return. I’ll note that the Illegal Alien audience is economically dead to advertisers, since almost all their money is sent to Mexico or to smugglers (as repayment).
This is something so stupid only Hollywood could do it.
And yes, there will be boycotts and campaigns. Its a perfect wedge issue against Advertisers.
If you really wanted to do this series, do it with a real Mexican writer/producer, not some White guy slumming/demonstrating moral superiority. Put in on Telemundo, written/produced in Mexico. No Anglo will be able to capture the cultural aspects needed to make it successful with a Mexican audience.
PIs are of course not “powerless” but rather uniquely powerful (they can poke around in things) but removed from society, in the stories. And illegals don’t build America, rather they impose big costs on ordinary people (the LAT estimates one illegal was paid almost $40K below his min wages and overtime due) so rich people can have a flood of cheap labor for nannies and maids and gardeners.
America does not need and is hurt by cheap, low-skilled, non-English speaking labor with loyalties to another nation right next door and with massively dysfunctional culture (Mexico is a failed nation/people).