Michael Moore today called for Democrats to run “beloved… smart… good” Hollywood stars like Tom Hanks and Oprah Winfrey as candidates and for the Obama administration to use Hollywood to “help fashion” its message. In an MSNBC interview with host Lawrence O’Donnell who was one of the writer/producers of The West Wing and other political TV shows, and Moore had this exchange about the midterm election results:
O’Donnell: Presidential elections have a movie star candidate to vote for. Midterm elections are like trying to open a movie on the weekend without a movie star. How do you do that? You’ve done that.
Moore: … [the Republicans] have actually run movie stars and won. They ran Ronald Reagan. Fred Thompson was a senator. Gopher from The Love Boat. Sonny Bono…
O’Donnell: Arnold Schwarzenegger
Moore: I don’t know why they hate Hollywood so much. When they run Hollywood, they win. When are the Democrats going to run Hollywood. For as much as they’re accused of going hollywood…
O’Donnell: Tom Hanks, step right up here for your nomination.
Moore: Seriously, if we ran Tom Hanks, if we ran Oprah, there’s a whole column of people who are beloved people, who are smart, good. But we have Obama, and he’s kind of like Tom Hanks, a nice guy. Why dont they make use of all the great communicators in Hollywood to help fashion a message? You don’t say things like, ‘Here’s your stimulus. What the hell, that sounds like a gynecological thing you’re handing out to people. It’s called, ‘The Tax Cut And Jobs Bill’.
Moore, the Academy-Award winning filmmaker of Fahrenheit 9/11, Capitalism: A Love Story, Bowling for Columbine, and SiCKO, was on the show to talk about his petition “letting the Democratic politicians know that our vote comes with one big condition: If they do not straighten up, get a spine and do what we expect of them, we will find alternate candidates to run against them in 2012. And we mean it.” He urged listeners on his blog to sign this petition which he pledged to deliver to every elected Democrat: the “I’m Voting Democratic But I Will Work to Defeat You Next Time If You Don’t Do Your Job” petition (aka “The Democrats on Probation” petition). “Let’s publicly put them on notice that we’ll give them just two more years to start doing the things we elected them to do. If they move one more inch to the “center” or to the right, they will never get our vote again. And we mean business.”
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It’s amazing how entertainers let their success intoxicate them. People in Hollywood, as well meaning as they might be are no match for the despots, tyrants and assorted psychopaths who lead nations. Everyone needs to relax and stay in their lane. The last thing I want is an actor engaging people who mean business. We’ve got enough problems.
Alternatively, Hollywood could start making political and heroic military movies for Red State people too — not just Blue Staters.
Reclaim the billions of dollars Red States are spending elsewhere.
Be bi-partisan. Be an example. Quit catering to just the hard core leftists.
There were so many great WWII movies made over the years. Oscars were won. Careers were made.
Why Is Hollywood throwing all the chances away to make great patriotic films?
Please provide a list of the mainstream unpatriotic films you’re obviously suggesting are pervasive.
You sound like you believe Hollywood should act like Tokyo Rose for every war the US decides to enter. Pathetic.
That is the attitude I’ve come to expect from Hollywood.
Throw away billions in revenue because patriotic movies aren’t being made, and equate the liberation of Iraq from one of the top mass murderers of the 20th century to the war crimes of the mass murdering Tojo regime of Japan.
A patriotic movie about Iraq and Afghanistan could focus on the people fighting the war — like They Were Expendable — in a loving patriotic manner, without backing every government decision that Hollywood disagrees with.
But deep down Hollywood hates the US Military personnel fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.
John Ford and John Wayne didn’t hate the US Military personnel fighting in WWII.
I doubt Hollywood hates the US Military personnel fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan any more than their spouses and children do, propagandic glorification notwithstanding.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Dismantle-the-empire–or-by-Jim-Miles-100926-435.html
That’s not exactly a fair statement to make. If you look back at the days your talking about, a huge chunk of those films either sucked, or were made simply as propaganda pieces to get people to buy things, or join the military. Those were the days when people were easier to win over by appealing to emotions about Native Americans, or the Japanese, or whatever flavor-of-the-month enemy of the time. Not to say there weren’t great actors or films of the time, but those movies existed in an age that will most likely never return with the media-dominated, instant news society we live in.
I agree with you 100$!
How about a movie about a US Marine who gets hit by an IED, and
then comes back and has his claims denied by the VA??
That, I think, would be hugely popular and patriotic!
So Harry Potter, Toy Story, Spider Man, Superman, the Pirates movies… these are all “leftist” films. How exactly? For every little art house, left-leaning film there are dozens of movies with no political slant whatsoever. The idea that hollywood is full of liberals is a myth. The money people, investors, lawyers, etc… are conservatives. Even the guy who partially bankrolled Avatar, the film that had conservatives all in a tizzy about liberal hollywood, was in fact, one of the biggest conservatives of all, Rupert Murdoch. I encourage you to actually think about what you are saying here rather than just repeating some GOP talking points you’ve heard over at drudge.
Don’t sell us up the river! Or we go straight for the green party.
If we do that, we can say hello to the Palin/O’Donnell administration….
Obama is worse than having a third Bush term and I vow to vote him out even if it means putting Palin in. I knew as soon as he caved on FISA in July of ’07 we had all been duped and had American Express refund the $500 campaign contribution I had made two months prior. Ha, now you know why taxes are removed directly from checks. I was so disgusted I even threw out my Obama-girl undies and mine & my dog’s matching t-shirts.
I never thought in a million gazillion years I would vote Republ.. wait. Republic.. okay. I can do this. I never thought I would vote for a Republicon, but here in NJ it was a desperate situation with crooked Corzine. You may remember, he’s the guy that mandated the FLU shot for every school child on down to 6-month-old infants in daycare. The only crops this ‘Garden State’ seems to be cultivating are chemicals and the corruption to peddle them directly into the veins of the citizenry against their will. Dspite being the Autism Capitol of the World (1 in 64 males according to Govt. signs all over the toll booths) this Wall Street rackateer is forcing infants to be injected with deadly adjuvents for the FLU. Excuse me, but the flu vaccine is basically a GUESS every year, I haven’t had the flu in over ten years, and the last time I *did* have it, I got it from the vaccine they were giving out for free at work! Fool me once..
Still, I had to pull the lever really, really fast because I was so morally conflicted about the issues the seemingly downright Satanic Republicons stand for and how they behave. But I did, and you know what? IT WAS AWESOME!! I’ve never particularly cared for the impotent Democrats and have come to terms with the realization they are all Republicons behind closed doors. Servicing the same corporate clients for the same campaign contributions.
I am a Progressive who now refuses to reward term renewals to revolting deceitful do-nothings. Vowing to kick them all out — yep, even if it means putting Palin in — saved my sanity. It’s cool though, I’ll vote to kick her out to. Right there on my absentee ballot sent to me new residence in another country. :p
http://www.kickthemallout.org/
How is Obama WORSE than a third Bush term?
Do you think Bush would have even done HCR? Let alone saved the US billions while keeping student loans, or secured billions from BP to offset their damage to Louisiana? Or bailed out GM, saving hundreds of thousands of jobs?
There’s a lot to criticize with this President. But to suggest he’s the same as Bush, is to suggest that Bill Clinton is the same as Bush. Wrong in both cases.
yeah moore you do that. you help run more left wing candidates run for office and win dem primaries, and you see what will happen.
right now i am a drunken independent loving how the horseshit/bullshit artist left wing mob got their proudful big headed asses handed to them.
hahahahahahahah
yeah you go BIG FAT SICKO mike.
OH and guess what loser??? rahul, bro of fedel is pleading with communist unions to allow more capitalism to intrude into the commie paradis known as “cuba” or else communism is DEAD!!!
oh! this is too funny mike you are too FUCKING FUNNY!!!!! Hollywood is TO FUNNY!!!
cheers folks. heres to 2 more years of watching dems & libs make complete FOOLS OF THEMSELVES!
I AM SO FUCKING HAPPY RIGHT NOW!!!!!
Okay, I’m being serious now. I’m also an independent, but apparently WAAAAYYYY on the other side of the independent spectrum. I’ve gotten to the point where rather than get angry about rants like this, I really want to know what you’re talking about.
What is it that the liberals have done or what they stand for that gets you so upset? Why do you think of them as arrogant and out of touch when what they keep trying to do is re-take America from the rich industrialists and give it back to the middle class? Why do you get so incensed when they try to get lower cost health care for everybody (not just the poor, lazy freeloaders) and cut out the profit-taking middleman insurance companies?
If you hate Hollywood liberals like Leonardo Dicaprio, Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Tom Hanks, etc. when they try to help out people in the world, do you also hate conservatives like Bill Gates, Warren Buffett and Michael Bloomberg (borderline conservative) when they do the same thing? Do you hate it that they show that you can be rich even if you give away a lot of your wealth to help out others? Do you hate them because the movie stars get more publicity? Well, duh, they’re stars; besides money, which they contribute by the bushel, publicity is the one thing they can bring to a cause that will really help.
I really want to know, so if you can turn on your spell/grammar checker and reply, I’d appreciate it.
I’ll take this one. You ask:
“Why do you think of them as arrogant and out of touch when what they keep trying to do is re-take America from the rich industrialists and give it back to the middle class? Why do you get so incensed when they try to get lower cost health care for everybody (not just the poor, lazy freeloaders) and cut out the profit-taking middleman insurance companies?”
Arrogant? Look at your own sign-off, “so if you can turn on your spell/grammar checker…” Check any political discussion online and you will see multiple references to the uneducated red-staters, racist, bigot, mouth-breathers, haters, etc. The primary message of this campaign was that all the programs that have been introduced in the past two years are good for the people, but we just don’t understand it. My own rep was asked about her vote on healthcare given her district was so overwhelmingly against it. Her answer, “they just don’t understand it.” That is arrogance.
“take back”, “rich industrialists”, “give back”, “middle class”. The implication is that the rich industrialists took something away from the middle class, that it was the middle class that gave the industrialist the concept for his industry, or that they funded his industry, or that they took the personal risk of starting the industry, or that they worked the 70 hour weeks when the industry was just 3 people. I know someone who is worth $40M+ thanks to his stake in a huge corporation. It was his third attempt at a start-up. His first two failed. Even with the third one they went months without money, eating mac-n-cheese, etc. Another friend was along for the ride but left when the money ran out because he wanted the comfort of a salary for his family. That “rich industrialist” now provides 100,000+ jobs to middle class people, and computer equipment we all need. And you want to “take back” from him? Where would we all be if he didn’t have the brainpower, work ethic, and willingness to take the risk in the first place?
Finally, “lower cost health care for everybody” — what a nice dream, but the behomoth that was passed last year doesn’t do that. The CBO says as much. The majority of analysts say as much. Common sense says you can not add millions of people without increasing costs, and increasing taxes on the manufacturers of the equipment does NOT lower the price of equipment, hiring 1.6 million IRS workers does NOT lower the price, and I could go on. I read more of the bill than most of the people who voted for it.
Tying back to the original article, Michael Moore is the king of arrogant. He is also rude and disingenous. Having grown up in the Midwest with a father whose job depended on the auto industry, I’ve followed Moore since his “Roger & Me” days. I was young and naive and shocked that he could make a movie so full of lies. Now I know it’s his modus operandi.
Let’s begin by admitting that most conversations about the mythical “middle class” are based upon abstract individual perception. Here in NYC metro area, $140k/yr is middle class according to the New York Times. Bizarrely, despite being far less expensive to live, that number rises dramactically to $250k in Arizona. For evidently, as revealed by Sen. John McCain, if you do not make $250k/yr, you do not belong in his mental middle class.
Clearly the speculations of a newspaper pale in comparison to the horse’s mouth of the ruling elite. Given the wealth enjoyed by he and the other 1% (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_One_Percent), and despite the stinging realization that apparently, I am I guess “low class” now, I am obliged to agree with McCain. We’re the serfs, they’re the masters. Disappointing as it may be, emotions are an irrelevant distraction. If our bruised egos can’t face it, they certainly can’t fix it.
Tying minimum wage increases to Congressional wage increases would be a significant improvement. After all, they do give themselves a raise every single year. Because government employees make around 48% more than employees performing the same job in the private sector, this will only serve to help close the disturbing disparity between America’s hourly workers, and their salaried executive counterparts in that area.
With CEOs making some 450x more than the average employees of the same company, this problem — unique only to America in all the industrialized world — will remain unabashedly acknowledged by ‘rich industriasts’ like the friend that you mentioned because, frankly, most extraordinary stories of success are worthy of respect and admiration, and there is never a shortage of supporters surrounding them more than satisfied with the justifications they provide.
Admittedly, it does seem a bit misguided, but who am I to begrudge you for it? I would ask you to consider if it isn’t a little naive though to expect people to pretend they deserve to be taken advantage of. In corporate America’s feverish pursuit of profit, decades of stagnation reveal a race to the bottom regarding employee compensation. I consider this particular abuse of the citizenry a form of insider trading, fascination with impressive individual success notwithstanding. Politically connected insiders at the top routinely abuse their position to continually railroad their own workforce at a gain for themselves and a loss to the employee. Everyone should expect to suffer for failing to become as successful as he?
It is unethical to punish people for a disadvantage, even if it was something they themselves could easily cure, like their own ignorance. This is what ethics are all about: the fiduciary capacity to prevent abusing the interests of others in the face of the opportunity. Not pointing fingers at your friend, but it is common knowledge the problem is systemic. If checks and balances are good enough to prevent abuse of power in government, they should be good enough to do the same in the workplace. And checks and balances are as American as apple pie! :p
Moving on, I too have tired of the health care charade. The crux of the difference between Obamacare and Hillarycare was that her plan was corporatist, his plan was populist. She promised to regulate the people (through garnished wages and fines), while he promised to regulate the insurance companies. Pre-election Obamacare was awesome. Post-election Obamacare is Hillarycare and sucks. Burned again. Typical.
Bill Gates, Warren Buffett and Michael Bloomberg aren’t conservatives, borderline or otherwise. In the mean all three are centre-left.
“what they keep trying to do is re-take America from the rich industrialists and give it back to the middle class? Why do you get so incensed when they try to get lower cost health care for everybody (not just the poor, lazy freeloaders) and cut out the profit-taking middleman insurance companies?”
Is that what you think liberals stand for?
If you were a true Independent you would know that the only difference between a Republican and Democrat politician is that the Democrats pretend to care about middle class, the Republicans are honest that they don’t.
You are !00% spot on. At least we know where we stand with the Democrats and Republicans. Sadly, it doesn’t help the middle class or the poor.
Randy V,
Don’t tell anybody, but Brad Pitt ain’t a liberal.
He’s very conservative. He’s a Republican who doesn’t want to rock the boat.
He let’s people label him as a liberal because it ‘fits’ for Hollywood.
I am,
The Hollywood Republican
No offense buddy, but you don’t sound too “independent” to me.
Like the guy I replied to does?
Being an independent doesn’t mean you don’t have opinions or leanings in one direction or the other, just that you can’t quite drink the Kool-Aid. I admit, about 90% of the time I come down on the progressive side, but I think the Democrats are just knuckleheads, and I can’t get behind their whole agenda. I get the impression that you feel that “independent” means you just disagree with everybody. That’s more like a Tea Partier.
MM should promptly shut the hell up.
A liberal tea party is on the horizon. I predicted it months before the midterms. Now, the question is will these foolish leftists be outright hypocrites when they start one or will they be embrace a more subtle “grassroots politics are okay when we do it” approach?
A liberal tea party is on the horizon. I predicted it months before the midterms. Now, the question is will these foolish leftists be outright hypocrites when they start one or will they be embrace a more subtle “grassroots politics are okay when we do it” approach?
I don’t know why you seem to hate liberals so damn much. FYE we’re not all as useless or spineless as the Democratic party. I consider myself a libertarian with liberal tendencies, that doesn’t mean I want the government to run my life. I’m sure I have most of the same concerns as the average Republican in this country. Just like I’m sure most Reps are nowhere near as insane or nonsensical as Glenn Beck, Bill O’ Reilly or most of the Fox elite. I give you the benefit of a doubt, give us liberals the same. That being said, Michael Moore is an idiot. He in no way represents me or anybody I know. I wish he would just go away.
Michael Moore is all about the money. With Fahrenheit he screwed several overseas distributors trying to get an extra 25% out of them. He is not a man of the people, he is a man eating two pizza pies at once.
That’s why it’s called business and not clergy.
OK seriously, that headline reads like The Onion.
He’s been saying this for years, I hope someone listens soon. I think a Hanks/Hanks ticket in 2016 would be unstoppable. (President Tom Hanks and Vice President Colin Hanks.)
Moore’s quote: “If they move one more inch to the “center” or to the right, they will never get our vote again.”
This is what’s wrong with progressive liberals like Moore: they fail to understand that the U.S. is a “Center Right” nation. Not a “Center Left” nation. And not a “Left” nation. That’s why the Republicans won 60-70 seats in the House: America rejected Obama’s “Hard Left” policies and want the nation to go back to it’s core “Center Right” values, which is what made this nation the greatest in the world.
Let’s hope the Republicans can restart our nation’s brilliance again before we have riots in the streets in a couple years like Greece and France due to the unions continued unrealistic benefit demands that have bankrupted states like California and New York.
Every time an American uses the term “Hard-Left” or Socialist to describe Obama and the Democrats, people all over the world fall to the floor in laughter spasms. America is so far-right, it needs to run to the left, as fast as it can.
And Greece and France got into trouble, because they couldn´t afford their tax breaks for the rich, initiated by their right-wing governments – not because of the unions. Sound familiar?
No, it’s GREEDY unions around the world, More, that are destroying nations. Private workers are being forced to pay for the unions unsustainable benefits (the majority being forced to pay the benefits of a small, non-productive minority). Wake up!
Yeah, lets hope the GOP can do another “heck of a job” like they did in 2001-2008. Those were truly the glory days, our Pax Romama. Ugh.
Maybe if the GOP was a center-right party your point would hold water. Alas, they are not.
And no political party will “restart our nations brilliance” (whatever that even means).
Hey Joe D: more people identify with the Republicans views right now about the world and this country and not the Democrats (only 20% of the population considers themselves a liberal). Did you see the election results? Or were you drunk on the same myopic anger that the five loons on MSNBC on election night were high on?
If you don’t like Republicans, I suggest you move to France or Greece with your buddy More because 2012 there will be Republican President and a Republican Senate majority and the Progressive, Leftist movement will be history. Woo-hoo!
“Let’s hope the Republicans can restart our nation’s brilliance again before we have riots in the streets in a couple years like Greece and France due to the unions continued unrealistic benefit demands that have bankrupted states like California and New York.”
You DO realize that the Republic of Texas has a $25 BILLION deficit, yes?
Yes, I know that. But California and New York have the highest debt amounts. And you know why? Because they are run by tax hiking, progressive liberals.
This is the problem with the US right now, the center has been pulled too far to the right instead of being in the center.
This is the result of a focus and well funded effort by an extremely rich oligarchy who have fooled a significant portion of the population into believing what’s good for the rich is good for the middle.
It isn’t.
They use guns, God, the flag, and other tactics to generate hate and fear and cut education systematically so we’ve gotten dumber over the last 30 years.
We are turning into the movie Idiocracy.
That so many people vote against their own best interests is tragic. We’re not a center right nation, we’re a nation of lemmings who worship power.
We need radical leftists to push the boundary of debate much further left, this will then make truly centrist ideas more mainstream. This is what the right has done, the left needs to counter it with balls.
Hey Mike: The education dept. has been given BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars over the past 30 years and they have failed students consistently. Why? Because the TEACHER UNIONS take the majority of the money from the govt. and don’t really care about actually teaching. And it’s almost impossible to fire horrible teachers. Why? Because of the UNIONS! I think I’m seeing a pattern here: unions destroy wealth, private jobs (and private schools) create it.
All four of you need to start reading books about how this country started and how progressives like Woodrow Wilson have tried to turn into an unsustainable socialist nation for the past 100 years.
So not only will the Republicans bash the Democratic politicians, but now the Democrats will bash them, too. The result of this is that Republicans rule the world.
I would rather see Harrison Ford or Clint Eastwood run for president myself, and they would definitely win.
Harrison Ford…first stoner in the White House. Yes We Can.
Why do you presume that Hollywood should only fashion a message for the left? What about the overwhelming majority of people who are independent or conservative, as in, over 75%?
There are many, many more of us in Hollywood than you will ever know, but we are beaten down by the leftists in power just to keep our jobs, and that’s not right under any party. It’s every bit as bad as sexual harassment or racism or religious intolerance or homophobia to berate us because of our political beliefs, beliefs that are protected by the Constitution.
California is the only state to have gone completely left in this election. And California is the state that is going down the toilet the fastest.
Let’s see what happens now with a Democrat legislature, a Democrat governor, all run by the labor unions, let’s see what happens when the highest taxes in America are increased even more to support illegal immigrants and government workers’ high salaries and benefits and pensions beginning at age 50. Who’s going to pay all these taxes?
Let’s see what happens when all the taxpayers, all the productive workers and businesses leave the state for other states with lower taxes and fewer regulations, or when they leave for other countries, as our so-called “green” economy, the green economy that is supposed to save our state and our jobs, has been leaving California in massive numbers for China and India because it’s so much less expensive to operate there than here. Solyndra Solar Panels took a half-billion dollar loan guarantees from the federal government less than a year ago, but now they have announced they are shutting down their factory in Fremont, California, canceling their planned IPO and moving their operations to China.
Obama was literally handed his hat by voters in this election, and the next day he got on a plane (200 planes, actually) and headed to India with 3,000 American business leaders to discuss plans to move jobs from the U.S. to there.
You scream at the top of your lungs for fairness and equality, yet you hold up Oprah and Tom Hanks as your shining examples of leadership, people who have millions of times more wealth than the average middle-class American will ever have in a lifetime, millions of times more wealth than they will ever need in 100 lifetimes, and you call that fair and equal. Tax the rich! as long as you don’t tax Oprah or Hanks.
You scream at the top of your lungs for global warming legislation that is going to cost us millions more jobs, yet you celebrate the liberal Republican Schwarzenegger getting on his private plane every single day to commute from Sacramento to Pacific Palisades, and one day after the election he is already bringing governor-elect Brown onto his plane for the same gas-guzzling ride.
California is doomed, and only good that will come of this is the rest of the country will very quickly see that liberal policies do not work, and never will.
It’s amazing to me how deep in denial the left wing seems to be after the results of this election. Their message touting the benefits of socialism and the evil, redneck, ignorant, racist “tea baggers” and Republicans was disseminated quite well by the labor unions, CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, NPR, CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times, The LA Times, The Washington Post, Newsweek, Time, Vanity Fair, Hollywood et al. Ahhhh, yeah, the message was received. Thank you.
The public finally gets it. They understand that the media has became infected by a left wing propaganda machine, a malignancy which could be traced directly to Hollywood. They finally woke up to see that the virtues of Barack Hussein Obama were a myth created by the myth makers. The man was ill-prepared to lead a city let alone a nation. They don’t see the so-called “brilliance.” What they see is pure arrogance supported by little if any achievement since winning the presidency.
In just one election, the Republican Party, which the left predicted would be extinct for generations, not only clobbered the Democrats in congress, but swept governorships and state legislatures across the country—wiping out decades of established Democrat, liberal, “progressive” politicians.
Tom Hanks and Oprah Winfrey? Man, it’s easy to over estimate your intelligence when surrounded by nothing but like-minded numb nuts.
I have loved and admired Mike’s work and politics. Usually I’d brush off this sort of thing, if I hadn’t heard him say it in person on the Lawrence O’Donnell show. He’s really panicking and if there’s one thing the Dems don’t need right now it’s panic.
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Two points: The article’s headline suggests Moore was no kidding about Hanks and Oprah running. Both of them make far too much money to bother with public services. A portion of the public (myself included) does not enjoy seeing celebrities giving America a message. The only message I want to see is: “Oprah, Hanks, etc give all their money except $1 million to less fortunate Americans.”
Not that I advocate for the insane Moore, but why are actors less qualified to run for office than any other American citizen? Most politicians are glorified actors, just not as talented.
Politics is Hollywood for the ugly. Hollywood is politics for the stupid.
I hope this bilious communist sympathiser speaks out as much as possible. It’s an enormous help.
Michael Moore should run himself, on a treadmill
How about his… Michael Moore for President!!! I’ll vote him on the ticket. Then watch his face when he loses.
I think more celebrities should run for office. Join Al Franken in Congress. They are clowns in a circus.
Does anyone really listen to this idiot?
He should be on ‘The Biggest Loser’ which suits him perfectly…
Michael, take your politics somewhere “crazy” still sells. You’re dead here.
Run those alternative candidates Gas Bag, run em! You have no chance anywhere but New York and California. This from the man who said there was no terrorism and Bush created it to keep us scared. What a fat bloated gas bag douche!
If we all ignore Michael Moore, he may just go away!