So Amazon decides to form Amazon Studios and to give away $2.7 million to wannabe screenwriters. (Here’s the actual 21-page Amazon Studios Development Agreement contract they have to sign.) Sounds good, right? Not necessarily creatively or financially. It’s easy to understand why Amazon wants to get involved with the creation of entertainment and not just its distribution. Or why filmmakers would want to break into the biz through this contest that gets them noticed, lets them win money, and maybe even lets Warner Bros release their movies. But a growing echo chamber of Hollywood scribes is warning wannabes to beware because of problems with copyright, authorship, Amazon Studios’ free 18-month option on a writer’s work the moment it’s uploaded, and rewriting by Amazon readers. Here’s some of the most confounding language:
Amazon Studios invites filmmakers and screenwriters from all over the world to submit full-length movies and scripts, which will then get feedback from Amazon readers, who will be free to rewrite and amend. Based on reaction (“rate and review”) to stories, scripts and rough “test” films, a panel of judges will award monthly prizes… You agree to be automatically entered into any future contests for which your work is eligible. The specific contest rules for future contests will be posted on this page when they are announced.
Prominent scribe and blogger John August asks this: ”Do you really want random people rewriting your script? To me, this feels like the biggest psychological misstep of the venture… Sure, most aspiring screenwriters yearn for access to the film industry and the chance to get their movies made. That’s why they enter screenwriting competitions, including things like Project Greenlight, which feels like its closest kin. But here’s the thing: each of these writers wanted to get his movie made. I’ve never met a single screenwriter who hoped anonymous strangers would revise him.” August quotes from the Amazon Studios’ FAQ:
Can I make it so that no one else can revise my original work?
No. But if someone makes changes that are bad, their version is not likely to get a lot of attention. And if someone comes along and makes your work better, you’re more likely to win a prize and get your project made. Sometimes other people can bring a different viewpoint or a different set of skills that take the story in a new direction or add new elements that make it even more compelling.
August (Big Fish, Charlie And The Chocolate Factory) gripes: “Hollywood already has a bad track record of messing up projects by bringing in too many writers — and that’s when they’re paying people who have already written and produced movies. The idea that an undiscovered screenwriter in Wichita will rewrite someone else’s screenplay on his own time seems far-fetched, and to me smacks of spec labor. I’m pro new ideas. I think you can make interesting, artistically worthwhile projects through crowdsourcing… But I don’t see Amazon’s model working.”
Blogger Craig Mazin, whose insights into screenwriting are far better than his own hack scripts (Scary Movie 3 and 4, Superhero Movie) opines that the Amazon Studios scheme “kind of disgusts” him because it’s a “bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad” deal. “They put this whole ‘Hollywood is old and lame, and we’re the new hotness’ vibe out there. In their intro video, their hip spokesman with the spiky haircut is an inclusive, welcoming voice. Hollywood is represented by a fat old Jew at a desk. Funny thing, though. The actual terms of Amazon’s ‘studio’ are so much worse than those offered by Hollywood studios, it’s grotesque.”
Mazin worries about the lack of credit protection or residuals: “WB could hire a WGA writer under a WGA contract to rewrite the script (if they hire any writer directly at all, it must be under a WGA deal). At that point, the Amazon work becomes source material, and the original writers are not eligible for ANY WGA credit at all. Just a ‘based on a screenplay by’ credit. The WGA writers – even if they only wrote five words – would be the only writers eligible for WGA credit and residuals.”
I’m sure this is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of outcry.
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we already have anonymous “strangers” rewritting our scripts…they’re called idiot studio executives. This is a big rip-off
There is no way I’d submit my best work to Amazon Studios. Maybe I’ll send some of my crummy scripts just to see where it goes. Always adhere to the golden proverb – “If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is”.
Nikki, you are overlooking the most dastardly part of it:
Even after 18 months, Amazon can show your project–or any movie based on it–free, online FOREVER.
Even after the option runs out, who is ever going to touch a project that Amazon can show online for free?
The relevant passage from the FAQ:
The right to show and distribute it (and scripts and movies based on it) FOREVER. We do not have the right to show it or movies based on it to people in theaters, or on DVD or Blu-Ray, or via linear broadcast or cable TV or a la carte sales or rentals online, except for short clips, but we can keep it up on our website and otherwise distribute it without exercising our option. There is no “delete my stuff” button.
First off, I love that you called Mazin out as a hack, Nikki. Well said. Second, I’m with Suzanne, and every sensible aspiring writer that this is a shit deal. I’m certain Amazon knows that they’re circumventing union protection by crowdsourcing these screenplays, and it really is awful to think that a company I rely on so much is capable of such a thing. It’s bad enough to work for months or years on a script, hard enough to actually submit it for a contest, but then to have it rewritten by some dick in Loophole, Missouri? Fuck that.
While I understand that Amazon wants to get into movie production, I feel that it is going about it the wrong way. Not being able to shop around my script for eighteen months because it’s on the Amazon slush pile is bad enough. Allowing strangers to come in and play with with it is even worse.
If Speilberg, Cameron, Stone or Coppola made me this offer, I would jump on it. They’re the big fish in the big pond. Amazon is the little fish…
Filmmaker Magazine’s Scott Macaulay has some excellent points about Amazon Studios as well –
http://filmmakermagazine.com/news/category/news/
Unfortunately, studios view writers as krill.
As a biologist and a writer, I salute you for your succinct, original and and very apt metaphor.
Screenwriters will soon be quoting you–starting with me!
What’s so awful about this is that I’m betting the site will be popular because so many people are desperate to have their voice heard. They just won’t realize that they’re being screwed in the process…
I concur w/Mazin and August–this is a rip-off. In my view, any respectable aspiring writer would not want to allow their intellectual property to be re-written at random by anyone with a laptop, not to mention the lottery-like odds of a movie being made. Surely there are better ways to break in. I appreciate that it is difficult, but writers have been doing it for decades without ‘help’ from the likes of a deep pocketed conglomerate masquerading as a benevolent benefactor.
It’s too bad this idea wasn’t around for artists like Basquiat or even Hopper. I would have loved thousands of anonymous “artists” to help shape Jean-Michel into a truly unique voice and to have saved him from the common, forgettable painter he became. Furthermore, would really have loved for crowd-sourcing to have brightened up old, gloomy Mr. Hopper and all his downer themes of isolation and loneliness. Lord knows no one responded to all that nonsense.
But what I really, really just can’t wait for is to see films made from the collective opinions of hundreds of thousands of anonymous craftsmen.
Geez…
This concept is getting justifiably crucified on scribe websites. Especially the good ones like Two Adverbs.
Avoid this like a plague!!! This is just a scam for Amazon to get it mitts on the unlimited ownership rights to a ton of material at little or no cost. Once you enter this “contest” you lose all control over the destiny of your material. Worse yet, should you have created something worthy of sequels….you will not be able to do that work without plenty of consent (and control) from Amazon.
This is similar to the frequently seen “photo contests”. Thousands of amateur photographers send in their “entries”. The fine print of the “contest rules” transfers all rights to the photo in perpetuity to the contest operator who thereby amasses a huge stock photo library at little or no cost. No serious photographer and no professional ever falls for this crap.
If you are a serious writer or have any serious intentions about a future as a writer don’t fall for the Amazon scam. If you are already a pro, you know better already.
ok, i won’t fall for the scam. But as a newcomer, tell me, sir, just how the hell do I get my material read? I’ve had pros tell me my queries are great, yet I send out 200 and don’t hear a thing back.
Everyone seems to agree this contest is a bad entry to Hollywood. but I don’t hear anyone saying how to get into the Hollywood — what’s the right way? I know Spielberg walked onto the Universal lot and set up an office. Post 9/11 you can’t do that.
Maybe, just maybe, Amazon isn’t as bad as you say and the real villians are the established pro posting are here who toss my letters and emails away or send them back in little envelopes marked “Unread.”
Sig, there is no one path to Hollywood but here are some general guidelines and others posting here have pointed a few out. I myself am an aspiring screenwriter inching along. Nothing produced yet and not enough dough to be able to quit my day job, but I’m meeting the right people, getting in the best rooms and, most importantly, having my work read by some of the top companies in town. Some very general advice:
1) Move to Los Angeles. Must be done. I tried to “get in” from Boston for 10 years. Never happened. Moved to L.A. and within 12 months, had a manager and a top-flight agency behind me. Sure, you’ll always read stories about some script being discovered from a gal in Wichita, but it’s not the norm.
2) Enter every legitimate contest out there. Triggerstreet is a good one. ScriptPimp.com runs a contest that employs professional readers (and where my manager found me). Also, the Nicholls. There are others.
3) Make connections. This is the reason for moving to L.A. Become involved in the “film” community. Become a Film Independent member. Join a writing group. Take an acting class (great experience for a writer) and writing classes at UCLA or USC (chances are, the profs have connections). Point is, in L.A., you’re only one or two people removed from the film industry.
4) Work in the industry. Someone mentioned becoming an assistant – this is excellent (albeit, tough and at times, soul-crushing) training. But it’s a way “in” – whether at a studio, agency, production company or for some stuffed-shirt actor. Doesn’t matter because you will have access to vital resources. If you do your job well, at some point, you will get a shot to be read.
Basically, what I’m talking about is immersion. Work, play, eat, sleep, interact. Show people that you are serious, that you are willing to learn and do the work, but you aren’t desperate. Be professional, diligent and patient. Never give up.
The other worrisome tendency I see if the amount of writers not writing. Sad, but true. You should put yourself on a track to write 3-4 scripts a year. Solid, polished scripts that you would be happy to have anyone read. That’s what I did and now, I have a stable of ideas and scripts to match to various wants and needs.
Sounds like a tough road to hoe? It is, but I think the biggest misconception out there is that screenwriting isn’t work but only artistic expression, and naturally people will gravitate towards it. Wrong. You have to push and put in the hours. In other words, you have to earn it.
For every overnight success you read about, there are 99 working screenwriters who busted ass to get in. I’m not sure if I’ll ever cross that barrier where writing is my only gig, but if it happens, no one will be able to say I didn’t earn it. And ultimately, that more than anything else, is why the Amazon contest is such a phenomenally bad idea.
@bostonlackey: Thank you for that excellent post. Very good advice, and very accurate, especially the note about having to WRITE. So many wanna-bees only write one or two scripts and expect that is enough. It isn’t.
Living in L.A. is absolutely NOT a prerequisite for aspiring screenwriters. Entering multiple, reputable script contests is a must-do for any screenwriter who is not yet able to fully financially support himself as a writer. Additionally, try your hand at writing a novel or two while you’re trying to sell those scripts…you never know.
Anybody want to take odds on how long it takes for Amazon to have a bunch of hacks turn these into “novels” that appear in the Kindle library….again at minimal cost to Amazon and virtually no reward for the original writer. Stay away from this.
Isn’t this just an online version of development hell? Let’s see if i understand: Amazon gets a free 18 month option on your material, which anyone can rewrite, and if they sell it, you’ll get what is basically a buy out. IF they sell it. And if they can’t, what? you get it back after it’s been read and rewritten by a few thousand people and probably covered by whatever studio agrees to read/see it? Well, the buy out is okay (but unlikely) and I agree with J. August – you want anybody and everybody to do alter your material? (which, if it sold, would then be rewritten by a pro, etc.) Why not just bend over now and insert a corkscrew?
Relevant to that, I have a question: If you get the script back, but thousands of writers have added their two cents and you LIKE what one of them or five have written, can you KEEP it in your script moving forward? And can said writers that had a good line of dialogue or new plot twist come after you for credit and money??
Or the flip side, when you are “rewriting” someone’s script, do you automatically get ownership down the road if Amazon dumps it, but Spielberg takes it on three years from now?
This is just a HUGE train wreck…
Nikki is so far up John August’s ass that it isn’t even funny.
“This is for desperate suckers”
That’s really all that needs to be said. I’ll just add this:
Hundred of strangers rewriting your script = your copyright gone. It’s not designed as a group writing project (what the fuck is that?). It’s designed as a dilution of your copyright to the point of public domain project.
You can’t claim ownership of something that’s been written by countless strangers over the internet. No ownership = no credit = no compensation.
The end.
Welcome to Wikiscreenplay.com
I would love to enter if the terms weren’t so onerous. Until (If?) Amazon changes its terms, I’ll be sticking to the contests like Nicholl, Austin, Trackingb, & Disney, which have helped propel their winners into the industry, without screwing them over first.
Fellow writers, you do not need to enter this contest or any that resembles it. If you’re out of state, submit to Nicholl’s, but if you have the sense to be in LA, just keep working at it. If you’re cream, you’ll rise. It just takes time.
LA is saturated with people looking for talent. Just write. Ignore these pathetic contests.
Well put. Amen.
It’s a put-on and a con, a flim-flam scam of a sham, a hip hype calculated solely to separate as many ideas as possible from as many people as possible as fast as possible before all the young rubes wake up and realize that they’ve been royally fleeced raw.
So you give away your first screenplay. If you’ve got more, it won’t matter. If you don’t, then you were never meant to have a career.
So you would tell J. K. Rowling to give away her first Harry Potter book, too? Or is it only screenplays that you consider to be a dime a dozen or – as ist were – worth nothing at all? Why is that sort of statement so common when it comes to screenwriting and especially new writers? It’s not like acting either, where you go in and do a few hours work for a short or tiny role and be done. I could understand to do a gig like that for free to get exposure. But coming up with an interesting premise/high concept idea, creating a decent plot and threedimensional chars and writing 120 good pages and rewriting them a few times takes a lot longer than one day or one week.
As to that Amazon deal – anyone with half a brain knows that this is pure and utter crap.
Well said.
Keep in mind too that all the dreaded Hollywood meddling comes AFTER a script is bought. So, somehow the crowd writes a good enough script. Now the star wants her profession changed. The production manager budgets it at forty mil more than they’ve got. The middle third read fine on the page but was death at the table. Are they going to crowd source THOSE changes? No, they’ll bring in a writer. And be right back where we were before they “fixed” everything.
Not only should people avoid the competition like the plague, but they should also stay away from signing up for an account, regardless of whether or not you plan to submit something. Has anyone read the Account Agreement? It’s four pages of them saying that you have to divulge your personal information, which they in turn can use in any way, shape or form they feel. I’m willing to bet they’re planning on selling people’s private information to third parties, since I didn’t see anything stating that they wouldn’t.
Stay completely away from Amazon Studios.
Can’t wait until some of these scripts are eerily similar to scripts already in development or when a studio options or purchases a script that unbeknownst to them is eerily similar to a script parked on Amazon by a no-name..
How long does Bert Fields have to live?
-RnsW
Cheap shot at Mazin, Nikki. It’s takes a smart man to write parody. While spoofs may not be your cup of tea, he usually does it well. The Scary Movie franchise has been insanely profitable, and there are several scenes in “3″ and “4″that I’m pretty sure would make even you laugh out loud.
As for the Amazon contest, this seems like a spoof, a parody. The terms are so bad it doesn’t seem real. Did the creators sit down and say, “Let’s come up with the most offensive, revolting screenwriting contest ever (not named Slamdance) and see how many people we can piss off?”