
UPDATE WEDNESDAY 10:45AM: AMC just issued a statement confirming “that there will be changes to the writing staff” of The Walking Dead.
EXCLUSIVE TUESDAY 5PM: I hear The Walking Dead writer/ executive producer/ director Frank Darabont has let go of the writers on the hot freshman AMC series, which has already renewed for a second season. That includes Darabont’s No. 2, writing executive producer Charles “Chic” Eglee. Writer turnover on series between seasons is commonplace but wholesale overhauls are unusual. What’s more, I hear Darabont is looking to forgo having a writing staff for the second season of Walking Dead altogether and assign scripts to freelancers.
Darabont, who hails from the feature world with The Young Indiana Jones as the only series credit before Walking Dead, ended up writing 2 of the first season’s 6 episodes of Walking Dead – the pilot and the second episode – and co-writing/rewriting the other 4. Two of those 4 were written by non-staff writers, one by executive producer Robert Kirkman, on whose comics the series is based, and one by Glen Mazzara. The freelance model is employed by the Starz/BBC series Tourchwood, which in turn borrowed it from the U.K. where the show originated. Having BBC as producer has allowed Torchwood to proceed with no writing staff but I hear such a plan on an U.S.-based network series such as Walking Dead may face issues with the Writers Guild. And, while the first season of Walking Dead was only 6 episodes, its second-season order is for 13, which may prove harder to manage in pre-production, production and post-production with no writing staff. Sources tell me that no final decision has been made yet with all options open, including using some combination of a writing staff/freelances. There is time – AMC is mulling launching Walking Dead‘s second season the way it did the first one – in October during Fearfest. (DUE TO WEBSITE GLITCH, PLEASE RESEND COMMENTS.)
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This remains so cute. Frank cannot get hired for a feature film because of not playing well with others, but he manages to fire OTHER writers from his wittle Zombie show.
Wow…
Here, here. Whenever his name shows up on a features director list, my boss always tells me to cross it off, saying “There’s a reason why no one will hire the guy.”
It’s “hear, hear.” Go back to college and pay attention for once.
easy there
I think you mean “easy their.”
Nope, “their” is posessive. “There” is the correct term here. Don’t correct people and get it wrong
Reason: Life’s too short.
Well I’ve read his Indy 4 script…. yes, there is a reason why no one hires him, but i have to admit that THE MIST and Walking Dead are incredible.
The Mist is a bad film ruined by an ending from Hell. The end of the Mist is one of hope. Frank made it one of despair.
The fool still appears on Entourage, years after it was cool. Desperate much?
The Mist was a movie that could have been great–could have had a decent cult status. But that ending? What. the. fuck. How could any director worth their salt not see that the movie had ended ten minutes ago? But then again I guess the point is that Darabont is no longer worth his pay, in salt or otherwise. At least, not in features. I wish him all the best with his cable show
which lost me halfway through episode 2.I don’t know, I watched Mist right after reading the short story that inspired the movie, and enjoyed the ending of the film more than the book. Just one man’s opinion.
Mist was a good film. It was interesting to watch from start to the end. We cared about the characters. We all applaud when Toby Jones shoot Mrs. Carmody. The ending is the thing that made this film different from all the other. We may not remember other similar movies but we all remember the ending of Mist.
for your info stephen king widely endorsed the new ending in the movie and said if he had thought of a similar ending then he would have had his book end the same way
The ending of ‘the Mist’ is brilliantly conceived, but its execution is so rushed (and Darabont’s typical no-subtlety doesn’t help) that it fucks it all up.
I have to disagree I thought the mist was a great movie I mean yea it sucked that he was a bullet short but no one was expecting him to be rescued after that not one person! It was a twist and a great one at that… However I personally love walking dead my hubby and I watch it faithfully every week…. it’s nice to finally see a gruesome zombie show on tv.. I’m wondering how season 2 will be with no writers but hey i’m willing to see the glass as half full until otherwise proven
I like how the end was not your tipical happy ending.. much better of a movie that way.
Having never met the man or anyone who has worked with him, I am intensely curious to know…
HOW IS HE A DOUCHE???
Can anyone supply examples of his douchi-ness?
Uh…two best picture and best director nominations, every film he’s made has been a hit and he’s got the #1 show on Cable TV right now, beating even “Mad Men”.
You sound extremely jealous.
Mad Men isn’t on the air right now.
AMEN!!! i agree i mean you don’t have to like the guy to love the show for one and for two if you hate him and the show sooo terribly much then why are you even here reading and commenting on it? Your just bringing more publicity to our wonderful show!!
Stop hating. The show is a ratings giant, that only keeps building. Yay zombies! Whatever it takes to keep this show walking.
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So firing the awesome group of writers who made the show and entertained the hell out of us is the answer? That’s the meat and bone here.
The ‘meat and bones’ have already been written. They basically just need rewriters for the comic. Not exactly a creativity-intensive thing.
I disagree. From what I’ve heard from several friends who LOVE the comics, they’re taking liberties with the source material and the main character already, and it’ll only get worse. It’s not just copy/pasting the comic dialogue into a screenplay format – it requires real writers to do it.
Also, I have to say on principle – there’s a reason I hate Torchwood, and I think it’s those freelancers. You can’t run a show show on freelancers and expect it to stand up creatively to a show written by a core group of people who all share the same vision.
I disagree. As much as I love zombies, this show was really poorly written. Hopefully the new writers don’t suck as much. They should borrow some writers from Mad Men and Boardwalk Empire. Those are way better shows all in all.
yea i don’t think firing the writing staff was the best move but hey I”m still hopeful for a great second season
I kinda like the ending of The Mist. A great coup and it stays with me.
As for running a cohesive show with all-freelancers… tried it. It’s a nightmare.
The ending was the only good part of The Mist.
this show is so boring. it’s the new lost. i want more from the zombies, who cares about the people. BORING.
Have you read the comics? It’s not about the zombies, it’s about the people and how they react to the situation. It’s about examining humanity and society and civilization and whether someone can remain a decent person in an indecent. The zombies are merely the device used to get there.
Pricks like this guy can’t be bothered to study source material, or have no concept of adaptation distillation altogether. Let them wallow in their ignorance.
yes, more of an emotional arch for the zombies, please. thanks… I felt the same way about the raptors in Jurassic Park. I mean come on! Who am I suppose to identify with?
It’s about the human drama and how the people react to such an unforgiving, violent world just as much as it is a vehicle to fill scenes with zombies and violence. It could be the best of both worlds if you have more than a 1 dimensional personality.
If you’re trying to empathize with the zombies or identify with the violence more than any of the characters presented so far, something is deeply, deeply wrong with you.
As for the writers, I’ve no idea. I’d imagine the entire series would benefit from a regular writing staff, more than freelancers. On the other hand I’d bet regular writers tend to get greedy and expensive.
Yeah, they get waaay above their station and expect to be able to feed their families and buy houses and stuff. The nerve!
Completely agree.
Same old same old. No new take on zombies at all. Why do they all walk like polio victims? Is that the official ‘dead walk’? Its old hat – shake it up folks.
unlikeable self indulgent badly played people running away from zombies – we are starved of story if this is a hit.
No, really, that was pretty retarded of you. The recent fad, whether it’s been the Dawn of the Dead remake, 28 Days Later, etc. is fast, rabies-style zombies. The classic Romero zombies weren’t outright stupid though. They could carry out many actions that they had done while they lived.
Kirkman and Darabont’s take on the material is a throwback to that style of zombie, by adding a subtle cunning to their whole demeanor. Sure, one or two of them can’t do much, but that’s never been the fucking point of zombies to begin with. Go watch your precious Resident Evil.
Then you must be twelve if you’re looking for more from zombies. I’m serious.
What do you mean more from zombies?
Sure, you could fill up a single episode with gory zombie mayhem, but without caring about the characters it would get boring QUICK.
Besides, George Romero uses the same formula. His movies are about people. The Zombies are just a stressful situation forced on them.
Oh, and one more thing. I love the slow zombies.
The Show is indeed a rating giant..Can’t wait to see season two !
You weren’t there, you don’t what you are talking about.
For a second there I thought: “What? Are they going to do ‘Whose Zombie Is It Anyway’ and improvise the whole thing?”
Personally, I’m not so sure about this idea. A lot of people seem to like the story that the show is telling, and the kind of continuing drama like TWD, might need people in a room working together keeping things together instead of fishing around for people capable of picking up the show’s style.
Off course the show could end up with all the same writers as ‘freelancers’ as part of one of those Hollywood accounting things.
Does everyone forget its already written as a comic book?
True.
But that can make the whole deal even more complicated than just writing something from scratch.
Adaptation requires planning, understanding the source material, navigating the minefield of the book’s fan community, and in the case of adapting a long running comic book series to television: quite a bit of teamwork.
Which is why I’m a tad uneasy over this decision.
They already have the comic’s creator as an executive producer; he’s also written one episode. Darabont has written two, that’s half of the 1st season between just those two guys. Plus Darabont has done rewrites on the other 4 episodes that he didn’t write. As long as he and the creator can supervise the freelancers and serve any rewriting needs than they don’t need a group of staff writers.
It’s not unheard of for a TV series to not have a writing staff. in the 1990s sci-fi show “Babylon 5″ didn’t have one for season’s 3, 4 or 5. The series creator J. Michael Straczynski wrote almost all of the 70+ episodes himself during those 3 years. He had a few freelancers in there too, but they were few and far between.
I seem to recall that pre-Hill Street Blues, *most* TV was written by freelancers – not staff writers.
And, as a result, there were *many* more jobs for writers (considering this was the pre-cable era).
Any pros want to chime in with their recollections of 30+ years ago?
and Babylon 5 was one of the best-written TV shows ever.
have you ever worked in tv? just cause someone has the credit doesn’t meant they wrote the whole episode.
It is well established Babylon 5 circles that Strazinski did write S3 and most of S2 and S4 single handedly.
DEEP SPACE NINE WAS FREELANCERS
JMS wrote most of S1 and most of S2, with one staff writer (Larry DiTillio) and a number of freelancers. He wrote all of S3 and S4, and all of S5 except one written by Neil Gaiman, a freelancer, and two which he scripted, but gave co-story credit for to Harlan Ellison, who was on staff as “Creative Consultant”. (B5 is the only TV series that HE stayed with for an entire season; in fact, he stayed on for all five!) JMS also wrote the 2-hour pilot and all the TV movies.
I actually had a lot of hope for the show specifically because they deviated from the comics. I don’t even remember how many issues I read of the series, but I wanted every single one of those characters to get killed off. They all were whiny idiots. I swear every couple of issues Rick was leaving his family behind to go on some boondoggle. Lori was a bitch and a racist, oh, and a slut. Let’s not forget that. Yeah. I stopped reading TWD because I just didn’t care whether or not any of them lived. I had hoped that the tv show would flush the characters out and make them smarter and more likable. Instead, Shane is even more of an ass and Lori just needs to STFU.
By the time they get around to airing Season 2, I might forget how much these characters have irritated me and give the show another shot. Maybe some fresh faces in the writing room will be a good thing?
Yes, for me also most of the characters are not very likable.
Whiny?
Come on, Do you think if zombies took over you’d be nonchalant?
Really think about it.
Extreme stress tends to bring out the worst (or best) in people. So far, I’ve loved the show.
yeah but they have deviated from the comic book story line so much already.
It is based on a comic, but at this point in the series they have dropped the comic’s continuity almost completely (which is a good idea if you’ve read the comic) and gone off into new territory.
Yahoo, someone finally remembers that this is a story that is already written by Robert Kirkman in comic book form, all it needs is fleshing out. Hopefully it follows the already written script instead of becoming another sell out, butchered, piece of Hollywood road kill like HBO’s True Blood originally written by Charlaine Harris and now nothing like her novels. By the by it’s not really a “little zombie show” it is about the survivors and has a good story to tell.
Disagree. Loved True Blood so much I turned around and read all the books. Enjoyed the books more but I still love the show. I prefer a movie or TV show to follow its own arc as long as it doesn’t violate the spirit of the original characters. The Harry Potter movies are so faithful to J.K. Rowling that they’re incredibly boring. If they’re going to be identical then I prefer the books.
They’re already off the comic storyline. Darabont is smart to realize they’re writing themselves into a corner. These characters are ALREADY feeling whiny and annoying (and pretty dumb). I’d rather see them jump around with a fresh take every week. Maybe follow different characters in different locations. LOST … with zombies.
Yes it’s already been written as a comic book. Those comics have already been read too.
If you want to see all of the story played exactly the same as it was in the comics, go read the comics again.
(hint: I own the entire run, all first printings. I’ve read them all, they’re great, but for the tv series to stay interesting it better NOT all be the same thing again.)
What issues are there with the writers guild? Cost? It seems a little strange to do this.
A disaster waiting to happen. Six episodes and now Frank Darabont understands how television works. The BBC model is faulty in this discussion because it too is based on six episodes. Wait until he’s in the writer’s room all alone and trying to break a story for episode 11 and the only one willing to listen to him is his writer’s assistant. That is unless he’s fired him too!
Actually, the BBC model isn’t false in this regard, as Auntie does seasons of more than six — [spooks] runs to eight or ten, Doctor Who does 13 plus a winter special, Torchwood was 13+13+5 and will do 10 this time.
SOP in US TV used to be all freelance, reporting to a producer and a script editor — there would be writing producers (and still are) such as Gene Roddenberry, D.C. Fontana, and Gene L. Coon on Star Trek. And that was back in the days of up to 39 episodes in a season.
That is not true. Most shows had writing staffs since the 1950′s and even before then when they were on the radio. In fact, “I Love Lucy” had only three writers for almost 130 episodes and four seasons worth of work. All three writers also did Lucille Ball’s radio show “My Favorite Husband” which was about 80 episodes.
So what’s next?
Are you going to tell us how Euripides used to work?
Euripedes wrote alone and that worked for the circumstances, which involved single-themed plays for annual festivals. It’s a matter of historical record, same as the above.
I hear he actually did fire the writer’s assistant.
WGA can’t dictate who or how many writer’s a series has. If one person wants to write the entire season, I believe they are entitled to do so… correct me if I am wrong.
Actually, the WGA can dictate some elements of union shows.
Obviously, Darabont is choosing ego over quality. Too bad. The show has possibilities. The second season is sure to fizzle.
Obviously? Did you ever stop to think that one of the terms of the second season pick-up might have been to bring costs down? If facing that vs. cancellation, I’m sure many of us would have done the same thing.
Yes, bringing costs down on the most watched show amc ever produced. makes sens. must be the cause.
There are a ton of logic holes and bad dialogs in season one. I like the show but it´s far of the standart i hoped for. If you want good writing look at terriers.
Yes, but that show is about to go off the air.
The WGA never had a problem with BABYLON 5 series creator J Michael Straczynski wrote the entirety of the series third, fourth and fifth season, save one episode.
Joe Straczynski is a machine. The laws of the universe don’t apply to that guy.
And it showed.
J. Michael Straczynski, last two seasons of Babylon 5 committed as a solo act for the most part (I think he had all of two outside scripts.) That was 22 per season, and unfortunately the strain showed.
The reason the last season of Babylon 5 sucked is that he had a story arc that spanned 5 seasons. In between season 3 and season 4, they told him that the show was going to be cancelled, so everything he had paced out over two seasons he crammed into Season 4, which made it action packed and everyone watched, so they renewed it for another season, and he had nowhere to go with the storyline so it sucked. Big fat donkey balls.
@Fletcher
B5 wasn’t going to be cancelled due to low ratings, the whole network was going off air (PTEN). B5 was their top rated show, but the network became obsolete due to UPN and The WB. Luckily TNT picked it up for the 5th season.
And the crammed storyline.. didn’t go the way you think. Season 5 was always planned, only about 4 to 5 episodes worth of story from season 5 was crammed into season 4. But the season 5 plotlines, were always in the plan. While it wasn’t as thrilling as the seasons before it, I enjoyed it as well.
You are only wrong in that the plural of writer is writers.
Oops!
On the case of beginning the new season on Halloween, if they can keep up the massive marketing push throughout the year and keep people thirsty, then this could very well work the same way that the SAW films do, becoming that “thing to do” on Halloween…I’m certainly going to be anxiously waiting for more.
Let’s hope they bring in some top talent…cause Season One sucked!
It absolutely did. The ratings are astonishing (unless it’s zombies watching zombies — probably is, near as dammit).
The pacing of the show was awful. The plot is painfully obviously stolen from 28 Days later. The characters were complete morons who spent most of their time sitting in a disused quarry within walking distance of death, with no 360 visibility, no guards, no fences, no defenses really at all. They had no survival plan, no real plans actually, and mostly fought amongst themselves. Some of the dialogue was ludicrous.
The photography also made The Event look like quality work, and that doesn’t even seem physically possible. It was so badly lit and composed that it made most student movies look like Terence Malick’s work.
Firing the writers in many ways seems like a good idea, they should also fire the D.o.P and some of the crew too.
And yes, the BBC model is a failure on so many levels. 6 episodes is uneconomic, and not enough time to really develop characters or story arcs.
They do need to hire people with a lot more talent if they want to make this a good show. Sadly, it’ll probably still be successful regardless. Seems that anything with zombies in it will attract enough zombies to get the ratings.
Completely agree. Been SO disappointed with this show.
I was hoping for MAD MEN meets BSG with Zombies… instead, I got Bold and The Beautiful with Zombies on crappy sets.
Please get yours facts right before you post again. The scenes you’re referring to that resemble 28 Days Later were all in the first two issues which were finished before the movie was released. You obviously don’t read the comics if you think the entire show is going to just be a ripoff of that movie.
Secondly, the camera quality was done on purpose to give it an old school look. If you want HD crystal clear quality, watch a show like Survivor then.
The show is on AMC, what more do you want with the pacing.
The comic book was written before 28 Days Later was released.
Actually, the film “28 Days Later” came out shortly before the comic did. Robert Kirkman (author of the comic book) didn’t watch “28 Days Later” and claims he was unaware of the similarities (which is a moot point anyway; the plot device of “main character wakes up in a hospital after the apocalypse” was done first in “Day of the Triffids”).
28 DAYS LATER stole it from THE STAND. Check it out, people. As I recall, Stu Redman wakes up in an abandoned CDC facility. And I’m sure Steve King stole it from somebody else.
A “writing staff” is grossly overrated. Have you ever seen a writing staff? They get fat, they get lazy, they get insular. Look at all your favorite shows, they just re-do the first two seasons, over and over again.
And character development? Again, look at your favorite shows: All the characters have sex with each other. Then a female character becomes a lesbian and everybody sleeps with everybody else, again.
Darabont will bring in fresh writers with the graphic novel as their guide, and the energy level will stay high. I hope Frank has killed the concept of a “writing staff.”
Stu does not wake up in an abondoned CDC in the Stand; it is fully staffed and they run tests on him until the get sick and he escapes.
28 Days Later and Walking Dead came out very close together, probably too close for one to have ripped off the other as they would have been written in advance of their releases.
Obviously you like to watch soapy shows, like Grey’s Anatomy and Private Practice. The shows I LIKE include Fringe and Supernatural, and they don’t follow those tired and boring arcs. If you like good TV, then you pay attention to the writers and directors. I’d watch anything written by Joss Whedon, or anything from the core writers he hired for BtVS.
You’re wrong. The film was completed BEFORE the comic book was. The comic book author says in his defense that the movie (28 Days Later) was released in the US after he wrote his comic (which is a dodge), and that he was really ripping off Day of the Triffids or some other excuse for unoriginal work.
The funny thing to me is how no one has ever screamed that comic book was nothing but a shittier version of Caliber Comics Deadworld series. Gary Reed, the publisher, must be pulling his friggin’ hair out after trying to get his series in development with little luck.
How do you know it’s a “dodge”? It’s a completely reasonable explanation.
Lets say Kirkman did know about 28 Days Later opening, wouldn’t he go out his way to NOT have his main character wake up in hospital to avoid the numerous 28 Days Later comparisons? Think people.
The lame “this is rip-off of this and that” is a tired criticism of this series. Everything is derivative of something now. Yes, even 28 Days Later and your DeadWorld series. You know why no one brings it up? Because it isn’t direct ripoff and if it was Kirkman/Image would have been sued by now.
I literally laughed out loud in the theater at the grocery store scene in 28 Days Later, as it was lifted from Terry Nation’s Survivors. The settlement with horny leader problem? Same thing. That said, I enjoyed the hell out of 28 Days Later, because those problems made sense in the context of the situation.
Doesn’t mean it was written before 28 Days Later was written. I don’t think Alex Garland needs to bite Robert Kirkman. At the end of the day, what’s a better zombie story? 28 Days.
“The plot is painfully obviously stolen from 28 Days later.”
You know, they made zombie movies before the 21st century.
Also, you’re painfully misusing the word “plot”.
Wow – this is truly nurd central
“Actually you’re wrong” – “No, I think you find that….” – “The comic was before the film which was stolen from”
The Walking Dead being discussed by The Sitting Dead
And why do they keep mentioning that they’re low on fuel? Why do they need to scavenge parts from that guy’s sweet Dodge Charger? Hello! There are about a million cars left on the highway. It’s a gas/spare parts extravaganza!!
Actually they need the gas hose from the truck they had, they stripped the charger for other parts they could use, but the part they needed the most was that gas hose, the gas hose from the charger wouldn’t fit the caravan so they need it from the truck, and even then they would have to use duct tape to make it work, so obviously the couldn’t just grab any hose, the truck hose was just the closest thing they had found so far
I agree. Couldn’t watch it after ep 2. Weak writing.
AGREE AGREE AGREE…BOOOOORRRING Thats why the 1st season staff was fired
I agree.
The writing seems to be worse with each episode.
There are some very talented actors gamely trying to keep this thing together.
Yeah I agree. Love the show, love the comic but it’s so easy to nitpick. so many logic problems. This way of changing to writing staff seems like a diplomatic way to do it.
Wait wait – you can’t have it both ways. Darabont wrote the frist two episodes, (if not more?) and rewrote the others that he “didn’t like”. But you think the season sucked and was was “boring”, so fire the staffers and co-execs who were probably arguing your point the entire time? Think about who the toxic factor in this equation really is.
October is a long down time for a new series that only has 6 episodes. People can forget the show when they don’t really have enough episodes to have a decent-length rerun period. It’s not like the show has blown away the audience. The show is at a critical point: it’s intriguing people, but its not so great that people will be biting their nails for nearly a whole year. I’d try and squeeze a few episodes out soon to whet our appetite for the full 2nd year. They could tie it in with the first season dvd buy.
I agree with you – I was disappointed when I found out that there will only be six episodes for the season, and if it takes until next October to air Season 2, I may forget about the show altogether by then.
Parts of the storylines seemed really maudlin and silly: you’re going to risk your life to go back for the lowlife? They should have just thrown him off the building instead of handcuffing him to the roof. One of the other posts addresses storyline problems, like the survivors not having 360 degree visibility, and not seeming to have anyone really guarding or watching, like when the zombies came out of the woods, everyone was sitting around eating dinner like they were at some vacation camp. What happened to their sophisticated “can alarm” system? And why do they have everyone getting upset when the guy who beats his wife gets beat up himself? I would have pitched in and punched him a few times myself.
Brav-o! Hollywood writers are overrated. Freelance talent is where it’s at. Who are staff writers, but a group of people who knew somebody who knew somebody. Screw ‘em. I hope all shows bring in freelancers. I don’t think shows should have staffs. The hell with nepotism and cronyism. Hire freelancers, preferably non-guild since everyone knows the WGA is full of crappy writers.
While people getting writing assignments due to nepotism and connections (rather than talent) sucks, not having a writing staff for any show with 13-22 episode orders is borderline insane. Do you know how much writing 22 episodes of a sitcom is without help breaking the stories?
Good lord, people think TV is bad now, this would make it undeniably worse.
If a show is engaging in nepotism and cronyism, how on earth would freelancing change that? You’d just have them practicing it on a freelance basis.
More importantly, though, you make a broad argument that doesn’t hold water at all. A lot of staff writers are writers who earned their place by working their asses off. Sure there’s nepotism and cronyism like in any industry, but it’s sad that you’d bundle the people who earned their jobs with those who might not have.
Since you’re speaking anecdotally, all the staff writers I know only got their jobs because they knew someone who could get them on staff. I’m not judging, mind you. That’s how I plan to do it and the ability to remain staffed will be dependent upon a great many variables, talent being only one and by no means the most important. And generally speaking no one really “earns” their place. We are all subject to capricious whims of those that came before us, i.e. “X, is good people. Let’s see what we can find for him. I know so and so did so and so but I’d like to see/ we need to see more like X around here.”
Yes, because there’s no nepotism involved in the handing out of freelances.
Something tells me you are an embittered wanna-be writer with little to no talent.
AGREED. These cry-baby wannabe writers need to get of Deadline and take a freaking class or something!
AGREED. Maybe they should get OFF their asses and learn how to proof read?
Joking aside c4x, I agree with you and will be holding a special place in my loathing heart for that commenter the next time I am up until 2 am proofing a script. “oh wait, you say you’re turning in more pages?” Make that 3:30.
Maybe I should hand my boss that spec I’ve been working on, but I wouldn’t want to get a job out of “cronyism.”
The odds of any freelancers being non-guild, or non-”Hollywood” are precisely zero.
Okay, Yancy, just be aware that it doesn’t automatically mean you will get the job.
So, he has a hit on his hands and fires everyone responsible for making it happen? Classy. And Eglee too? Big mistake.
I met Chic Eglee a few years ago. I think he was teaching somewhere. Anyway, he seemed super intelligent and fairly rational in the way he approaches writing. Also, he can out talk anyone on the the history of hip hop.
This is a good move. I thought the pilot was great but things started going down hill from there. It was quickly becoming a by the numbers TV drama.
Well, in theory, the story is already “broken” — it’s right in there in the source material (Kirkman’s comics). That said, this is definitely a dicey situation.
Writers getting screwed?? In HOLLYWOOD???
WHAT WHAT WHAAAAAAT?!?!?!??
And AMC knifed Rubicon in the back for this?
No, they knoifed Rubicon for the choppy acting and the almost incident free stories. BORRRRING>
I agree. I tried so much to like the show but after 5 episodes (and I was being generous) I couldn’t stand watching another scene of the actors looking off in the distance pensively and doing absolutely nothing.
Why screw around with a good thing?? God i hope he doesn’t implode this great series.
I don’t watch the show, but I think this is a potentially intriguing idea. It’s got to be infinitely cheaper to freelance writers rather than paying a roomful of writers producing fees every episode whether they carry their weight or not. It also seems like the same people always get hired from one show to the next. Perhaps this will be a way to bring some new blood in. Things don’t always have to be done the way they were done in the past.
The Writer’s Guild is going to dictate how they staff their show? Bullshit.
It’s their show, let them ruin it if they want, but stay out of it. Bunch of entitled jackass babies, the WGA.
AC, the Doctor Who and Torchwood have had seasons lasting 13 episodes and they employ the no writing staff strategy talked about here.
But I hope Darabont is prepared to devote his life to this show. He won’t have any time to pen features let alone direct them if he plans on doing this. As the head writer without a staff or number 2, he’ll need to write 3-4 episodes a year to establish the big picture arc and wrap things up, plus rewrite every other script that comes in from freelancers. Russell T Davies worked solely on Doctor Who while he was the head writer. Steven Moffat, the current head writer, had to turn down feature film offers to concentrate on Who.
Waitaminute. Are you telling me I’m going to have to wait virtually an entire year until the next season begins airing?!
Who in the hell is running the development department at AMC anyway?! Aren’t they the least bit concerned about attrition that comes with such a long lull between seasons?
Didn’t we learn ANYTHING from the debacle that Sopranos turned into? By the last season, no one cared anymore because they got tired of waiting and waiting and waiting…
No writing staff for season 2? Sounds pretty crazy to me. Has this been done before and if so, was writing a series all by ones lonesome successful?
It has been done many times before. It is very old school and the quality was much better then…
As noted above, Babylon 5 — Straczynki was damn near a solo act for 66 straight episodes. It was sort of successful, though the strain showed, it nearly killed him, and it led to his reduced participation in the writing of Crusade, Which promptly sank.
David E. Kelley tends to dominate the writing of his series for the first season. Aaron Sorkin too. Brian Fuller tends to be point man to a gaggle of freelancers.
This actually makes sense to me, as the story for the entire season can be broken first, with the comics as a guide, and the pieces spread between Darabont, Kirkman, and freelancers with no problem.
Yes, but Aaron Sorkin only writes the scripts, he doesn’t direct them and is only moderately involved in other aspects of the production.
@Steven E. McDonald:
Crusade sank because TNT decided it didn’t want a sci-fi show after all, before it even got on the air. And they didn’t want it to go anywhere else either and be a hit, so they killed it, even though Sci-Fi channel wanted to buy it from them.
Didn’t Babylon 5 work on that model? JMS writing most of the episodes with a freelancer here and there? And they didn’t have a comic book to copy.
Hell, when I worked on Airwolf, there was a story editor, no writing staff, and no writing producers. No story arc either.
the premise on this show is fun, and there is something in each episode that brings me back, but has anyone listened to the dialogue… Feels like a bad TV movie. Maybe there’s a reason the the writers were axed.
If you think the writer’s are responsible for the dialogue and not Darabont then you don’t know how a television show is run.
Ummm, from what I hear, Darabont rewrote every script just days before filming, so if the dialogue sucks, blame Darabont.
The show is an achingly mediocre retread of any number of zombie features. People watch because it’s the only zombie show in town, despite a blah cast, blah writing and just *stoopid* characters. *Nobody* wonders aloud why all of a sudden a group of zombies arrives at once and kills half the group??
As for the source material, I’m surprised it was popular because it’s far more bland than the series, if you can imagine. One good thing the writers did was add characters that were not in the comics and spice things up a little.
I’m guessing this series goes the way of HEROES: fascinating to comic book geeks for a season, until they inevitably paint themselves into a corner and it dies on the vine.
The League has essentially one writer (& wife) and one director (& his wife). I’m just sayin’……
Despite my love of Paul Scheer, I’ve never watched the show. The jokes in the previews are always so obvious and/or corny!
My understanding is that The League does their show like Curb Your Enthusiasm; the showrunners provide the cast with an outline, and then the performers basically improvise the scene. I don’t believe there are actually scripts written on The League. Could be wrong, though.
There are scripts for Curb and there are scripts for The League. “Improvising” a TV show does not mean “writing it on the fly,” it means you start from the script and then give your talented actors a ton of leeway within the scene; if you cast well, you may hit a nugget or two along the way.
I just want to thank Dave for crawling in my head and plucking out and stating exactly what I think of this season. I thought I was alone in a world of zombies fond of cheesy dialogue