
EXCLUSIVE… UPDATED: Not only has controversy erupted today on the subject of producer credits and the PGA Theatrical Motion Picture Awards which also determine the Best Picture
Oscar credits, but it’s now over before the Hollywood community even had a chance to weigh in on it. Down for the PGA count are three of the 6 producers of The Fighter. The PGA lists David Hoberman, Todd Lieberman, and star Mark Walhberg but omits Ryan Kavanaugh, Dorothy Aufiero, and Paul Tamasy (who did get a WGA nomination for his script). All six appeared for a Q&A following the film’s official PGA screening on November 22nd but only three as of now will be allowed to accept the PGA honor should The Fighter win. Kavanaugh came to the rescue of the film and financed it through his Relativity Media after Paramount exited and did, I am told, appeal the PGA’s decision to leave him out in the cold. The PGA does not publicly comment on arbitrations, but a source close to the Producers Guild has now confirmed to me that the appeals process is now over and “the original decision was in fact affirmed so the PGA process is complete and credits as released this morning are final”. Which means that Kavanaugh now has no recourse.
A source close to the situation tells me that Kavanaugh was very hands-on as a producer and involved in every aspect “present and accountable from script to score to editing and not just a check writer”. The source reiterates that Kavanaugh is very aware of the different hats he wears as studio head and producer but insists he was involved in every aspect of the making of The Fighter. Director David O. Russell among others will back up that claim. A highly informed PGA source confirms Kavanaugh’s omission and also indicates this will be the case for their recommendations to the Academy should The Fighter get a Best Picture Oscar nomination.
Of course the PGA and the Academy Of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences have been down this path before, most famously with Bob Yari who financed the eventual 2005 Best Picture winner Crash and was also one of six credited producers but nixed when it came time to hand out the Oscars. Yari got involved with a protracted lawsuit against the Academy but did not prevail. Only Paul Haggis and Cathy Schulman were given Oscar statuettes for the win.
Other producers not listed in their official press release as eligible to accept the award this year are three of the 6 credited producers of The Kids Are All Right – Jordan Horowitz, Phillippe Hellmann, and Daniela Taplin Lundberg – along with Black Swan’s Arnold Messer and 127 Hours’ John Smithson. I’ve not heard if they are appealing.
As usual, the PGA is vigilant when it comes to actually vetting the producers involved in the making of its nominated films (which it also does for the Motion Picture Academy as well) and often makes Solomon-like decisions on who’s in and who’s out based on the Guild’s stringent vetting process which doesn’t always rubber stamp official credits.
As the season now swings toward all-important Hollywood Guild nominations whose memberships heavily overlap with the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences, today’s announcements of both the Producers Guild and Writers Guild were very good news for the Oscar hopes of Black Swan, The Fighter, Inception, The Kids Are All Right, The Social Network, The Town, True Grit, and 127 Hours which all managed to make both lists. In addition to those 8 films, the PGA also nominated Toy Story 3 and The King’s Speech which were both ineligible for WGA awards since they weren’t produced under WGA jurisdiction.
The Producers Guild, in their second year of naming 10 nominees instead of 5 (like AMPAS), came up with a list that could very well mirror the Academy’s when it is announced on January 25th. Studios accounted directly for 6 of the 10 nominees and indirectly for another 3 that came from their specialty divisions. Only one non-studio affiliated film, The Weinstein Company’s The King’s Speech, made the list this year as opposed to last year when Weinstein, Lionsgate, and Summit Entertainment with eventual winner The Hurt Locker were also included. Last year the PGA matched Oscar on 8 out of 10 nominees. (PGA nods for Invictus and Star Trek went to The Blind Side and A Serious Man at the Academy). The 2010 PGA lineup is ripe with box office winners ignoring smaller grossers like Winter’s Bone and Rabbit Hole in favor of bigger, very predictable titles – at least if you listen to pundits. There were no real surprises on the major studios vs true indies list.
As for the WGA, even with the disqualifications of likely Oscar nominees The King’s Speech and Toy Story 3, a good number of today’s nominees are also certain to show up at the Academy as well. The only major surprises on the WGA lists were Nicole Holofcener’s little-buzzed about but critically acclaimed April release, Please Give, in Original Screenplay, and John Requa and Glenn Ficarra’s Adapted Screenplay nod for I Love You, Phillip Morris, a Jim Carrey starrer that famously had trouble even finding a domestic distributor until Roadside Attractions finally picked it up for December release. It was nominated over other eligible contenders like Pulitzer Prize-winner Rabbit Hole, Shutter Island, and others.
Holofcener told me she was shocked about her Please Give nod even though she voted for herself. It’s her first nomination for anything like this, she says. “I sat down to work with more confidence than I had yesterday,” she notes but still was very surprised to see her little movie “on the same list as Inception.”
The issue of sending screeners could be a reason. Some high profile films weren’t sent to WGA membership while smaller films like Please Give and I Love You, Phillip Morris were sent, and helped greatly. That had to be a factor in getting these smaller releases seen and nominated. Among other nominees that sent screeners to the large membership of WGA: Inception, The Kids Are All Right, The Town, True Grit, and The Fighter. Four other movies also sent screeners but weren’t nominated, including Get Low, Barney’s Version, Somewhere, and Company Men which was written by WGA President John Wells and the only one of The Weinstein Company films that was WGA-eligible this year.
NEXT UP: The Directors Guild nominations on Monday. With only five slots, these key nominations may well offer the definitive word on establishing the frontrunners in this year’s wide open Oscar race.
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I’m sure Ryan did do a lot to make this film happen, as a matter of fact I am sure of it, but that was almost entirely about making the numbers work at a certain budget. Of course David O will back him, he wants Ryan to finance other movies he wants to make, but the only true producers on this movie are Mark, Todd and David. Do you really Ryan had any influence creatively over this project? Please!!!
I am sure he said “David O, Mark, here is the deal, I can make the numbers work at $25M, if you can change the script creatively to make it work at that number, and in the process on take X for your services in the movie, we can make this work.”
Studios are CRAZY not to send screeners to writers…just getting them puts you in a favorable disposition and the water cooler talk that ensues within that group is invaluable to the sell for a movie.
Also, I did receive shutter Island.
Last year it was the French guy. They seem to exclude a lot of people. Why don’t the “REAL PRODUCERS”, just start their own award show and call it.
” We make the money” (TM, CR, all rights reserved awards)
They can even do it like the Golden Globes and ensure they not only get a credit for nominations but that they actually win (every time)
So funny… because the guy is a check writer… no way he was on set or part of the scoring session. Going to blow hard if this film wins the statue and all he gets is a ticket for the event….
Have been closely involved with a number of these matters of who gets credit or not I can tell you, especially on this film, Kavanaugh deserves the credit. He champions films and like 3:10 Yuma, his gut told him to go for it and he did…you may think he is only a check writer, he is a producer’s producer in more ways than you will ever understand.
This is outrageous. As someone that was a witness to this movie getting funded etc. Ryan deserves full Producer credit for any of the well-deserved awards.
I’m WGA and got a “Shutter Island” screener. Also, a “City Island” screener. Had seen both in the theaters, though
all this hubbub over a mediocre movie that hasn’t a chance in the hottest day of hell of winning an oscar. “the fighter” sucks but maybe this backstage infighting for producer credit will provide for better viewing than the movies flat, predictable boxing scenes and lame third act denouement.
the brouhaha over credits proves that it’s true what they say about hollywood: it’s high school — with money.
i’ve heard around the camp fire that kavanaugh is a cool hombre, so it sucks that this is happening to him. cest la vie.
This post is so right on. The Fighter is a total dud. All this hype has not gotten people to go see it. Theater owners can’t wait to free up their screens and put some butts in empty seats. Okay, Wahlberg is in the “club” along with Aniston and Cage. Those who make lousy films and keep working even when nobody shows up. Okay, Ryan is the one who will have to “buy” an Oscar if the crap gets one. But, now he’s very little incentive to do so.
The Fighter best picture? What a joke.
that’s bullshit! Ryan made it happen and Dottie worked on the thing for 10 years!!!! Absolute nonsense.
Dottie worked on the project in 2004 not 10yrs! She was hand delivered the story from Keith Dorrington in the format of a documentary and treatment higlighting the lives of the brothers DICK and MICKY quest and comeback. HE is the SOLE ORIGINAL CREATOR of the story and worked on it since 1999. Keith also owned the life rights since 1999. Her name was added her to the life rights along with Tamasy later in 2003 to help move the story. To the best of my knowledge that was the extent of her involvement snd she nor Paul were ever on set… THE biggest contributor was DORRINGTON. Ask RYAN to see the documentary DORRINGTON produced and you will see many SCENES DUPLICATED into O Russell’s version!!
doubt he ever read the script
Note there are 4 producers that received the PGA endorsement on THE SOCIAL NETWORK … The PGA strives to include, not boot producers. If more than three producers really did the job, then more than three get the credit. If the facts are borderline, the benefit of the doubt goes to the producer and they receive the accreditation.
Honestly, that’s just false. The benefit of the doubt does NOT go to the producer. While it may go to experience AS a producer, past credits, and relationships within the PGA… it most certainly does not go to the producer, regardless of the facts presented.
Agree with you totally. Often, the ‘producer’ gets the shaft because it is a popularity contest with the PGA….
Ryan was first in with the cash and last to get credit or get paid. When reading the gross numbers that are posted remember that the “house nut” (folks with the popcorn) gets their share first. Then, the distributor, who in this case is Paramount. And we all know Paramount math. Two times two equals one. Next is TWC. And then Relativity which is next to Closest to the Hole, Wahlberg’s vanity company. Which is where Relativity will end up. In the hole. And he can’t get his little fake gold statue? That’s not nice.
Wahlberg has no overseas value at all. Europe hates him. So, whatever they take in here is the end of the line except for video and TV. With a screen average of about four hundred bucks and tickets at an average of sixteen, that leaves a lot of empty seats and cold popcorn. Which means the house ain’t looking with excitement for the next dud from Wahlberg. And, of course, there will be more. Something about a talking teddy bear. Oh, oh, more stale popcorn that will have to be thrown out.
AH COME on Producing is just assistant work, with better parking
you just run around and put the little tasks in place
BIG DEAL
Why do guys like Kavanah care about getting the statute. These guys are billionaires. It’s a piece of mettle. It will make no difference in their lives. There companies produced it and thus reap the benefits of owning a company with an Oscar winner. Why do they care if they have the actual thing. So a group of people voted they liked the movie. So those people telling you you are a good boy and here is your piece of candy. Silly. They should be assshamed.
Why do they care??? come on…
you really think money boosts self-esteem?
It’s all about the props…
you know that
They care because a piece of “metal” allows them to show off!
Listen, if he doesn’t win one. He can always buy one at a Hollywood pawn shop. The thing is not gold. It’s metal and thin gold plated, so you can’t even melt it down. What’s the value. Ego. Period. Nobody in the real world cares anymore. Too many awards.
“A source close to the situation tells me that Kavanaugh was very hands-on as a producer and involved in every aspect “present and accountable from script to score to editing and not just a check writer”.” ??? Louis B Mayer could have said the same thing but I don’t remember him whining about not getting an award that belongs to the actual producer
Here! Here!
I don’t any of the producers involved with The Fighter, including Kavanaugh, so I have no dog in the fight – but, I’m sorry, by all accounts this movie does not get made without him, period, the end.
How in the world that translates into, “Thanks, but you’re not a real producer, so goodbye, no awards for you,” is insane.
I’m not saying that ANY financier deserves to be included in the PGA/Academy list; far from it as that is a tangled web.
But I AM saying that in the same way they evaluate the other producer’s contributions in deciding who deserves credit, they should also evaluate a/the financier’s contribution to determine if they deserve credit. If it turns out the movie doesn’t get made without them, they deserve the credit and any awards.
Oh, and apparently he did a lot more than finance the picture, to boot.
This is ridiculous, and reinforces how arbitrary this limit of three is to begin with.
Mark Walhberg tried for how long to get this picture made? And it finally gets made because of Kavanaugh? If true, he, Hoberman and Lieberman should take a stand and ask that their names be taken off the nominations list as well. Let it be blank.
Well, that’s just nonsense. On most pictures there are many people, who, absent their contribution the picture does not get made. The fact that Kavanaugh stepped up speaks well of his judgement as a financier and studio exec, but it doesn’t make him a producer.
The contribution from a producing point of view is who on the project managed to get Kavanaugh onboard in the first place. The person who secures the financing, not the person who from whom it is secured, is the person who is playing the role of producer in this one (of many) parts of the job.
That stinks! This movie never would have been made if it wasn’t for Ryan along with the dedication of Whalberg, Hoberman & Lieberman. The PGA has made exceptions in the past and they certainly should make one in this case. Especially since David and Todd are a team. Great films tend to always have a long and tortuous path to completion. Many people make different contributions in a films travel to release. Although I have always supported the PGA in their efforts to eliminate the proliferation and unwarranted producer credits hard and fast rules just don’t always apply. If we’ve learned anything about the movie business is that rules are always bended to accommodate the uniqueness of every situation and picture.
Um, you said “The Fighter” was a, cough, cough, GREAT movie? Please put down the crack pipe.
It was BARELY a good movie. The Fighter is a solid C+ or B-
The Fighter cannot hold a flame to The King’s Speech, Toy Story III or The Social Network. A poster on Deadline once called it ‘Rocky-lite’ … I tend to agree. It lacks weight, gravitas and endurance, all qualities of the classics we’ve come to love.
As usual. The PGA protects their leaches of so-called “Producers” and screws the guys who actually take action, raise the money and put their asses on the line. The PGA is nothing but a disgusting organization of people who just wait until someone is stupid enough to finance their movie. Unfortunately this will backfire and people will think twice before stepping to the plate and backing another movie.
Damn straight.
I heard Kavanaugh at a Q&A take credit for changing the ending to “make it more rocky”. Which makes sense, because the movie was good UP UNTIL THE ENDING!
People who write checks should just continue writing checks.
Ryan = producer? Please stop it! He is good at what he does, which is be the face in front of his father’s business genius. Read it here first: You won’t here Mark W. backing up Ryan’s claim in public. Was Ryan pivotal? Yes. But this guy has to figure out the difference between “producing” and getting a “producer” credit.
this is funny to me. such strong feelings without any real facts. ryan’s dad is a doctor not in the entertainment business.. and mark is not going to support or deny anything as its not really relevant for him to do so. no one is saying ryan does not deserve credit who worked on the film and if they could not make it without his money its safe to say he deserves credit – people seem to forget you can’t make a movie without any money. most producers are in fact investors and many do not do anything but cut a check, as it has been stated many times, but regardless, they make it happen, be in creatively or financially. since when is it fair to only give partial credit?
OH PLEASE what about the fake “Producers” who work with actors who have production companies!
They DEMAND producer credit in exchange for the acting services of their so called “partner”
HUMM who might that be?
The guy’s financed over 100 movies. That’s a lot of checks he’s written. Let’s admit he’s a better Producer than Wahlberg is an actor, or a producer. None of these guys taking Producer credits is really a producer. Come on Beverly Hills Chihuahua 2? This is kind of like a bum fight. They all just got lucky to get a good piece of material and a director looking for some redemption. But there would be nothing to fight over without Ryan’s money.
i guess jared underwood and adrian ward should get the awards as well for providing bank loans on pictures like these?
harvey is the real hero of the fighter anyways as he took international and put up a large guarantee (majority of the budget) which enabled the film to be financed using his collateral
totally agree – JARED and his Pug should get an Oscar for every pic he finances!!!
Good film. I hope it wins the Oscar for Best Picture. Congrats to all six of the producers.
GREAT MOVE PGA (an ineffectual vanity organization} AND ACADEMY!!! PULL THE RUG AND ONE OF THE SHRINKING MEMBERS FOR THE FILM FINANCE COMMUNITY BY DENYING HIM A FEW SECONDS OF GLORY!!! NO MONEY = NO MOVIE!!!! . RECIEIVING A FAKE GOLD STATUE ON TV MAKES RYAN’S MOTHER PROUD AND PERHAPS MOTIVATES HIM TO CONTINUE TO FINANCE FILMS!! ITS HAPPENS TO BE THE REASON SO MANY FILMS GET FUNDED TODAY , BECAUSE BILLIONARES WRITE CHECKS SO MAYBE SOMEDAY THEY CAN GET A TROPHY CALLED OSCAR SO THEIR MOTHERS CAN BE SO PROUD. WHY DON’T THESES “ORGANIZATION’ FOCUS ON SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE LIKE PIRACY RATHER THAN THEIR CONTINUED FOCUS ON KEEPING SOMEONE OFF A STAGE TO GET A TROPHY AFTER PARTICIPATING IN GETTING A MOVIE MADE?…BOB YARI MIGHT STILL BE IN THE BUSINESS IF THE HAD A OSCAR ON HIS MANTEL… AT LEAST HE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN SOMETHING OUT OF FINANCING FILMS THAT DID NOT LINE HIS POCKET WITH GOLD BUT KEEP SO MANY PEOPLE EMPLOYED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bob Yari still is in the business!
Give Ryan his due. He is one of the few guys making movies out there. If not for places like Relativity pretty soon there won’t be any producers. And even if he only wrote the check (which I am not saying is the case) he probably did more than the other two “creative producers.” And that input, i.e. money, is what matters most.
Ryan is a nice guy. I know he has plenty of personal cash but the money he uses to finance these films he raises from wall street so it’s not from his personal savings. At least that’s what I think. True or Untrue? Insiders only please.
It’s time the public knows what most of the producers in town know: The PGA is a total sham and a joke. They reward line producers and the old guard while discounting the producers who originate the projects and spend years developing them; most of the time taking them from financier to financier, begging agents/managers/stars to read the scripts, packaging them, repackaging them… The PGA is in business to protect their own. If you weren’t born into the business or a former studio exec, they’ll go out of their way to screw you, even when the project wouldn’t even exist without you. The fact that the Academy listens to them at all is a travesty.