
Mad Men won big at the WGA Awards on Saturday. But months after the end of the fourth season of the much accoladed AMC series, there is still no deal with the network for a Season 5 or a new pact for creator Matt Weiner to return. That certainly is making writers on the show uneasy and clouding what should have been a night of celebration for the writing team. Mad Men swept the drama categories at the WGA Awards, winning for best drama series and best drama episode, the Erin Levy-penned The Chrysanthemum and the Sword. Some in the audience were joking that Weiner might use his acceptance speech for best drama series to thank the show’s writers and announce that they no longer had jobs. He didn’t of course, and the show going away is extremely unlikely — though all the scribes feted on Saturday are not guaranteed to stay on as Weiner is known for shaking up the writers room between seasons.
The last time Weiner went through renegotiations was 2 years ago when the two deals — between AMC and Lionsgate, and between Lionsgate and Weiner – closed simultaneously on January 2009. And that was a few days after Mad Men triumphed at the Golden Globes for a second consecutive year as best drama series. This time, negotiations have stretched into February, and I hear the two deals may not close at the same time. As an indication of the slow movement, Weiner is leaving for Europe for the next 2 weeks.
Meanwhile, the deal between AMC and Lionsgate is expected to close this month when the network’s option on the show expires. At TCA last month, AMC’s SVP Joel Stillerman said the network’s plan is to bring Mad Men back for a fifth season. (Lionsgate already picked up the options for the cast which expired a the end of December.) Dealmaking is not moving fast, especially with AMC reinforcing its legal team this time with top entertainment attorney Jim Jackoway.
With Mad Men being such a critical success and a pop culture staple, Weiner is asking for a much bigger paycheck and Lionsgate is trying to get a higher license fee from AMC, too. (Its current one is a little over $2 million an episode.) It won’t be easy to close the deals but let’s face it, who can imagine Mad Men on another network or with another showrunner?
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Hey, just add some goddammed ZOMBIES to Mad Men. Zombies triumphed over the renewal of Rubicon at AMC. Get with the program of the undead!
Mad Men is an outstanding show. I have to believe Weiner, though a total jerk, knows this will be the first line of his obituary and will eventually and begrudgingly accept the fortune they will offer him.
No fortune to offer him. Network in financial disarray, bleeding red on two series, Mad Men and Breaking Bad that although acclaimed, no one is watching and another, Rubicon that was a collossol failure. Shows cost too much, foreign is too soft, premium advertisers don’t want to spend on the channel because they can’t deliver eyeballs. AMC is run by a fairly good guy in Joel Stillerman who’s an independent producer and a mediocre Susie Fitzgerald who’s been riding the Carolyn Strauss association of success for way too long. Zombies has potential, but it costs so much and Darabont is so anti-TV rhythms that they can’t even begin to gage when any more eps will be available. You can’t think traditional today and everyone from Charlie Collier on down don’t understand how make the kinds of deals that can increase their CPM’s so the channel can start to have value. Big missed opportunity on so many levels. Clean house, start again and bring in people who know what it is to create programming with different financial models and formats.
Who says no one watches Mad Men? Every human I know watches it.
It seemed like the WGA also bent over backwards to NOT give MW an individual writing award this year. It’s always tough when such a brilliant show is written by such an unpleasant person.
I enjoy MM but I would sacrifice future episodes for the satisfaction of seeing Weiner get publicly rebuffed and be responsible for torching his own show.
Of course, that won’t happen but oh the fantasy of it all…
Is a two million dollar license fee not ridiculous for cable?
Mad Men obviously could never go on with Weiner running the show, but why couldn’t Mad Men move to another network? The audience for Mad Men is higher income, more sophisticated- the audience would certainly follow mad men to whichever network it went to.
Mad Men would be a great fit for HBO or showtime- I know i would certainly pay to watch Mad Men- and it would improve artistically if it had a HBO/Showtime budget, without the censorship.
Mad Men is a really good show but it is no Boardwalk Empire.
Boardwalk Empire is a really good show but it is no Sopranos
BE isn’t even a very good show, it’s first season was a complete mess…acting very uneven, arcs plodding, and no real payoff
Sopranos is good but it is no Threes Company
Fraggle Rock is a really good show but it is no Dennis Miller Live
Are you kidding? Mad Men is vastly superior to Boardwalk Empire. The writing, the acting, is all so much more subtle and crafted. Boardwalk Empire is good, but it’s just another gangster show. Mad Men is completely unique.
I’m curious. From where do these reports in the comments section of “Mad Men” articles come from that Matthew Weiner is a mean boss? Where would I find such info? Please explain.
he is a horrible, horrible person. unless you’re his writer’s assistant.
Outside of this list of commenters NO ONE thinks that. But go ahead baby. Let her rip.
Boardwalk Empire is no Boardwalk Empire. It’s just an incredible set with no story. I predict two seasons and out. What a bore.
The incredible set is 99% CGI. The behind the scenes style video that was viral a few weeks ago completely ruined the magic of the show. I didn’t expect them to rebuild everything ala Gangs of New York, but I figured they at least built the boardwalk set.
You’re right, Nick. That must be why Boardwalk Empire won the Golden Globe, AFI, SAG, DGA and WGA Awards…
Didn’t Mad Men get completely shut out at the Golden Globes? That could be a little slice of humble pie.
I also agree that Boardwalk Empire was the better show this year. Those last two episodes of Mad Men last season were subpar. Still, if it were to end, it would be a good note to do so. Better go out with some quality.
Boardwalk Empire is no Mad Men. I agree that the last couple of episodes of MM this year seemed a little like setup for next season (when and if that might ever happen…), but there was an arc of 4-5 episodes this season that really hit home emotionally in a way that Boardwalk Empire never once came close to touching.
Damn.. why all the good series always don´t make Season 5! Is that a curse os something?
IIRC, Dexter got a bump when the Eye network gave it a brief run on Sunday nights to fill a scheduling hole.
CBS could give Mad Men a shot if a deal with Showtime could be worked out for a pay cable run, and perhaps bring the show a wider audience. However, they are not as desperate for programming as is, say NBC. The other nets don’t want to compete for their own basic cable outlets.
“Amc is run by a fairly good guy Joel Stillerman”
Uh guess you’ve never worked with him. Hands down he’s one of the least respected execs in tv. He’s universally known as someone with no taste: He pushed for Rubicon to be made when it never should have been and then passed on Walking dead three times before his staff finally was able to push it though. His staff are leaving or dying to leave because they can’t tolerate the fact he never returns their calls or emails and the creative community, agents and managers think he’s a joke.
The more I read about all the impediments of getting the 5th season off the ground, the more I start to think we may not actually get one. I’ve really engaged with the show from the very start and while like any show, it has it’s flaws, overall I’ve enjoyed it and connected to it, being an actual child of the 60′s and all. I do hope that the impediments keeping the show from coming together are at least dealt with enough to get one last season out of it. As fans will agree, there are enough loose ends to at least get a few episodes out before the lights get turned off for the last time at Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce…