
In the past couple of years, three daytime dramas bit the dust: CBS’ The Guiding Light and As the World Turns and NBC’s Passions. Despite constant rumors, ABC has been the only network not to pare down its daytime soap lineup, currently running 3 series, General Hospital, One Life to Live and All My Children, as many as CBS and NBC combined. It tested the waters a couple of times, including piloting a potential Aisha Tyler daytime talk show 2 years ago.
Now ABC seems ready to join CBS and NBC in cutting the number of its daytime dramas. All My Children appears to be the most vulnerable for cancellation, and there is speculation that it may be replaced by a a talk show in the fall. All My Children, which is in its 41st year on the air, recently posted two weeks of back-to-back all-time lows in the key Women 18-49 demographic, in which it is dead last among the 6 daytime dramas on the air, drawing paltry 463,000 for the week of March 7, down 34% vs. last year. For the same week, All My Children was also last in total viewers, averaging 2.32 million. (ABC’s One Life to Live did only marginally better with 2.36 million.) One reason for ABC to keep its 3 daytime dramas on the air was the fact that they were getting a second window on sibling cable channel SOAPnet. But with SOAPnet changing its format to the preschool-centered Disney Junior next year, Disney-ABC is clearly scaling back on its commitment to soaps, and the daytime lineup on the broadcast network will probably be next. All My Children‘s most recognizable star is Susan Lucci, who has been on the show since the very beginning, playing Erica Kane, dubbed the most famous daytime soap character of all time. After 18 nominations, Lucci finally won a Daytime Emmy for her role in 1999. Notable All My Children alums include Josh Duhamel, Amanda Seyfried, Melissa Leo, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Christian Slater and Kelly Ripa.
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Sad to see yet another daytime soap possibly go. Personally I think All My Children (AMC) and GH are the stronger ABC soap brands and AMC would be the better show to keep especially as the ratings between them (even over the last several years) is minimal. However, I understand OLTL is coming in on budget and AMC isn’t so I’m guessing thats going to be the deciding factor.
I couldn’t agree more. I love AMC. We can’t lose “Erika Kane!”
I Love All My Children. I tape or watch it everyday.. I have been watching it for 30 some years. It’s the best Daytime Soap Opera. We can’t lose Erika Kane.. The show wouldn’t be the same. I won’t replace that show with any other Soap Opera..
All my children is my favorite and only soap. I was sad when they took the character zack away. I have watched the show from day one. I will not watch the station in the day time any more if all my chilren is cancelled. Between the stations showing paid programing, realiy, game shows and talk shows witch I hate. They don’t leave much for me to watch.
me too I am a loyal all my children watcher If it gets cancelled I will be so mad!
Yes, sorry to see Zach go, but the wonderful Dr. Castillo, ooh can’t wait until he and Kendall sizzle between the sheets. I am looking forward to Erica and Caleb, Colby and Asher, Cara and Jake, yes, I would love that, Amanda is starting to get on my nerves. Apparently, the executives only look at numbers and have never seen the shows. And Tad, wonderful Tad, he was so sexy but now he is just a very good man. the best. Don’t we all wish we had a Tad in our lives?
I would’ve one of two possible solutions: Show AMC only once or twice a week, and have Oprah take it on. I looked at the OWN lineup. I don’t like it that well, but AMC would cinch it for being the best Network ever!
I have watched AMC from day one. I have my own business and before we could record shows, I literally arranged my client apppointments around watching the show. I have no plans to even turn the TV on (especially ABC) during the daytime once AMC is gone. The replacement show looks like garbage and ABC will not receive any of my support.
I felt nauseated when I read the words All My Children to be canceled. I have watched this show for over thirty years now. I record it daily and it is my time to unwind and escape each day. It never occurred to me that it would ever be canceled. In these oh so trying times, is there nothing that we can count on anymore? Will the rugs just keep on being pulled out from under us? These are not just any cast, they are our family and we love them. We have grown with them. Canceling the show would be like killing off our extended family. Please, please don’t cut the show. I agree with everyone else, who needs or wants another lousy talk show. I certainly won’t watch it!
I AGREE WITH YOU!!AND I WILL NOT WATCH ANY SHOW IN ITS PLACE!!
I too felt nauseated when I heard that they were canceling AMC. Please don’t take it off the air. It has been a part of my everyday life watching it for well over 20 years. The stories seem real and the actors are great. I think way better then the CBS stations Soaps. Plus do we really need yet another talk show. I will boycott ABC if you take AMC off the air, and that includes prime time too.
I completely agree to your post. Please do not cancel AMC!
I have been having an anxiety attack ever since my husband told me AMC has been cancelled. I have been watching for 30 years and feel as if I have lost part of my family. I have grown up with the characters. I will not be watching ABC’s new daytime lineup.
I love AMC I have watched from the start of this show. Really a another talk show. I will not watch anything in the place of this wonderful show. What is wrong with you people. This is the only soap I watch. Please rethink this.
I totally agree. I record AMC daily and watch it as my escape and relaxation after work each day. I wish they could move it to another network. I have watched this show for over 30 years and have been a full-time working mother for 27 of those years so it’s not just the shrinking number of non-working women that enjoy daytime soaps. Please Please try to find another network to pick it up. There is nothing else on daytime tv that I would record and watch daily – so as a full-time working woman I am done with daytime tv. Go ahead add another talk show who cares – they’re all the same just like reality tv – they will come and go just like that. No reality/talk show will last as long as AMC.
I AM MAD AS HELL THAT THEY CANCELED MY SOAPS. I AM 53 YEARS OLD AND I HAVE WATCHED FOR 35 YEARS EVER SINCE I WAS PREGNANT WITH MY SON 35 YEARS AGO. MY 93 YEAR OLD AUNT GOT ME TO WATCHING THEN. SHE IS HEALTHY AND DRIVES AND WATCHES THE SOAPS TOO BUT WE WONT WATCH ABC ANYMORE. I GOT MY MOM TO WATCHING AND SHE IS 80 YEARS OLD. MY DAUGHTER IN LAW WATCHES AND SHE IS IN HER THIRTIES. MY GRAND CHILDREN WATCH IT. OR SHOULD I SAY WE DID UNTILL THIS CRAP HAPPENED. I WANT MY SOAPS BACK.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will not watch any show that is taking the place of one life the place of one life to live or allmy childrenl
TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU I WILL NOT WATCH ABC ANYMORE UNLESS ALL MY CHILDREN IS BACK.
Please do not cancel All My Children.I have been watching this since I was 10 years old. This is my favorite soap.
Ditto. Erica Kane grew up on All My Children, as did I. It is what gets me in the proper frame of mind to deal with anything that life
deigns to throw my way. OLTL and Luke aka General Hospital, get my blood boiling (that darn Carly..why can’t she just leave poor
Brenda and Sonny alone!!)and leadin to my viewing of Oprah and then the Evening news. Later comes Jeopardy and Wheel. Then..? Primetime.
But I can assure you, ABC, make good on that threat. Be as stupid in programming as the avarice-driven low-lifes that run the Two and a Half debacle (only if they DARE rehire the crazed drug addict that was ONCE a good thing. Now, nothing but a ‘Losing’ albatross,
who will surely drag the whole kit and kaboodle down with him, if they really do take him back. (Blackmail??)Replace him with a younger bad boy who the housekeeper really has a thing for, that’ll be a hoot!
Anyway, ABC will be deleted from my daily review of tv as surely as I write these incredulous words here. Take Erica from us and I’ll NOT have ANY reason to love you, ABC, anymore!!
AMC has been a part of my life since I was 12 years old, I worked for 30 years, watched on my lunch hour and if that was not possible I recorded and watched at night. Now I am retired but actually busier than ever but when I hear it coming on I stop what I am doing-sit down, have lunch in Pine Valley and escape for that hour the real world. I have honestly been depressed since hearing that my escape will be coming to an end. I dont know what I will do without it and Erica Cane. I keep hearing it is the end of an era- I dont want the end of an era – is there anything that can be done to keep it going????
And are there not more than enought FOOD and/or TALK shows????and that is fine for those who enjoy them but please dont replace a legend like AMC with more of these. Cant there be something for everyone What can we do
We can’t lose Erica Kane! She’s an institution. What would I do with my days if AMC went off the air? I’d never watch ABC again!
If All my Children is cancelled will give Give up ABC period!!!
That is so true amc gone never again will i stay tune to channel 7,and what about disney taking over soapnet oh my like we dont have enough cartoon stations already please people listen to your viewers
I’m right there with you! No more ABC period! Let’s start raising Kane!!!
I agree I will not watch abc anymore. We do not need anymore talk or food shows
Been watching amc since 1977,a part of my life . PLEASE PLEASE DON’T CANCEL
I want All My Children to stay on the air. I have watched this show since I was young. I’ve grew up with the cast. It’s not logical to cancell this show in replacement of a food network/reality show. It’s pretty ridiculous, reality shows are taking over everything. I believe that it’s not fair that you are doing this. Instead of cancelling this amazing show, why not put the food network/reality show during the night. I am disabled and there are a lot of people out there that love this show! Even if you don’t have a lot of ratings, so many peole enjoy this show. People, help fight this. We want All My Children!!!!! Keep your fingers crossed and have hope. -JoAnn
I will be very upset if AMC is cancelled. I have watched this show since it’s beginning. We have ENOUGH talk shows on TV….why another one? All you AMC fans must voice our strong opposition to the cancellation of this show.
I agree, there are way to many talk shows on. we don’t need another one. please keep AMC. I have also watched for many years,and tape it everyday. Something has to be done to keep the show going.
On Please! I have watched this show for 30 yrs. faithfully. I would really be upset if they took this show off the network. I have a daughter who remember climbing down the stairs during nap time sitting on the steps watching it without me knowing. She is 22 years old today. She still tells people that I would watch that show every day and make her take her nap so she wouldn’t bother me during the show. I will be sad if the show is cancelled.
Please no more talk shows – enough is enough. I have watched All My Children every day for over 25 years. It’s an excellent show with great actors and storylines. I look foward to escaping to Pine Valley every day – please don’t cancel it!
I can’t agree with you more, no more tv talk shows or reality shows, I am sooooo sick of these shows that I can throw up. Enough is enough lets get with it folks people in the business. Please keep All my children do you know how long I have watched this show? about at least 20 yrs. So don’t take it off. Thanks for listening to the people I hopw!!!!!! sandy
I agree. Too many talk shows. If they put another one on I will be forced to leave ABC altogether. I love AMC and do not want to see it cancelled. Reality TV is showing us how far down the food chain we have gone.
I have watched Daytime Drama since I was 7 years old. I remember when Susan Lucci was in her early teens. I don’t care for the present programming reality TV is “poor turned rich people”, airing their dirty laundry. As rich as these people are they have absolutely no class. Guiding Light, As the world were fiction and enjoyable. Real life low moral people with money are sad. the soaps were sponsored by Tide/PG are they supporting these new talk shows. The View and the Price is Right are enough.
I watch AMC every day. It would be very sad to see it go.
Common! these shows are real horse dung. It’s a wonder why the networks were so artistically stupid enough to keep them running for this long. Day time soap opera’s are half the reason why the American housewife public are senseless and dumbed down. The other half is talk shows that focus on on stage fighting and antics. Good riddance!
You have to be kidding me; really, these shows are “horse dung”?
What do you think was the first radio “drama”? These shows have a rich history of compelling storylines that reflect society, and show us a side of ourselves that we don’t sometimes see. From
the early 30′s in radio to the late 40′s of television, soap operas have been not only well scripted, but well acted (look at some of today’s stars who began in soaps!) Do yourself a favor and learn about the history of a genre that is slowly coming to a close – and then ask yourself, “do we really want to lose these
literary classics of television”?
The “American housewife public” are senseless and dumbed down? BTW, I’m assuming you meant come on and not “common” and you incorrectly used an apostrophe in “soap opera’s”. Just saying!
Sounds just like a man. If ESPN started cancelling shows, and change the format of ESPN2 changed to the all Dancing Channel, you would get upset too.
Horse dung, who talks like that anyway. Why did you even come on here to comment anyway, was it just to call housewives dumb, yours just leave? If you just wanted to come on here to bash women, like me, who love AMC, make sure that your punctuation and capitalization are correct before you start correcting others!
(these) should have a capital
(on) was used twice back to back
I’m just saying.
I hope the viewers that have watched AMC DO NOT go to another SOAP just so there ratings go up and they look good. AMC Fans if they
take it off the air stop taping any ABC Soaps!
So you would suggest 3 times as many people loose their jobs?
Please don’t cancel AMC, the mainstay of over 40 years for all of us with its most human drama. We don’t want any talk show ! They are all atrocious .Thanks
Rupa.
I have watched AMC for years. I will boycott ABC and its sponsors if they drop it.
I agree…..I literally grew up with all my children. The characters are all apart of my family. I also will boycott all daytime programing. Please…please..please….don,t stop all my children….
Look do not put on another talk show I first saw AMC while I was on leave from the U.S.M.C. And I have been a fan since and this was in the 70′s.I was in my 20′s now I’am in my 60′s.So thats along time and I’am a Vet.so leave it on.Thank You
I agree AMC and GH are strong shows with dynamic characters that are fun to watch and the actors are GOOD! Been watching AMC since I was a child with my mom. If anything should be canceled it should be OLT ~~ That show is PAINFUL to watch. I DVR AMC it and watch it later, as the mid-day time slot is hard to watch live given that I work. Please, please, please keep it on the air. Cancel OLT and give AMC it’s time slot!! Would be so sad if they replaced it with a lame talk show. If AMC goes, there will not be much left that I watch on ABC.
amc lost everything since its move to LA ive boycotted since its move the storylines are stale hate to see it canceled but OLTL is now my favorite after being a big amc fan for years
Donna, Do not cancel one life to live too many talk shows. The Chew is a stupid show and the characters are boring.At least leave one of the soaps one life to live on. Making a big mistake ABC.
i have watched abc shows since they started. please don’t cancel all my children, one life to live, and general hospital. my joy of the day is watching them every day. please don’t take them off. pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
TOTALLY AGREE PLEASE DONT TAKE OFF PART OF OUR LIVES, ALL MY CHILDREN FOR THAT BAD BAD SHOW THE CHEW.
Don’t cancel the show! I love All My Children! I have been watching it faithfully since I was a teenager. It’s a great show!
If ABC drops All My Children, I will no longer watch anything on ABC and will encourage all my Boomer friends to follow suit.
I agree totally. If AMC and OLTL are cancelled I will not watch anything on ABC.
I just read the news regarding the cancellation of ABC’s All My Children and I am broken hearted. I have been watching the soap literally since 1970. Is there anything that we as fans can do to stop this? The ABC lineup has always been a part of my life. It’s great to escape the everyday into my favorite places, Pine Valley, Landview and of course, Port Charles!
I love All My Children and General Hospital. I watch them every day. Personally, I could get along without One Life to Live. It gets dumber every day. PLEASE DO NOT CANCEL ALL MY CHILDREN.
I have been a loyal fan for the 41 years..I started watching this with my grandmother when I was in High School…How much of a fan am I? When I started to work I would arrange my lunch hour during this time to finally recording so I would not miss the show..I stil have some videos of the old shows with Kate, Langley,..I felt like they were my family…When some of these cast members passed on I felt a great loss..Please don’t take this off the air..It brings me great memories and enjoyment. Remember Brook coming to Pheobes on a motorcycle, Donna singing at the club and turning her life around …Like I said there is so much there. When u do the holidays and you bring back the old cast Linc, Kitty,Philip, Tara…I realize that some of the new viewers don’t remember them but it would be a great loss of tv actors.
Thanks
Janice Ruger
Spring Hill, Fl
I have watched AMC since the day it started and if i worked i would watch through the years either by or including taping,dvr,watching on soapnet to watching on the computer. if it were cancelled i would feel as if i lost ONE OF MY CHILDREN.
I’ve been watching AMC for 35 years and I can’t believe there’s a chance that it won’t be on. I love it.
If they want to know why the ratings are so low, maybe it’s because they’ve been dragging the plots out too long. This is a constructive criticism, but it’s gets boring.
Another thing they could do is run old reruns in chronilogical order. What old time fan wouldn’t like to see Jeremy, Gloria or Brooke again!
this is terrible!
what am supose to do i been watching this since i a little girl i am 52yr old!!!!
this is better than the reality shows
no way what are this actors going to do they are like family to many of us!!
and this is not any soap this is better that getting help from a mental dr. and it doesn’t cause no money
so i can’t belive it i am torn!
tell you what you should do …. go take some ‘english’ speaking classes yvete. you do need a ‘mental dr…you have some issues.
“and this is not any soap this is better that getting help from a mental dr. and it doesn’t cause no money”
i think the soap opera fried your brain seriously.
give back the welfare checks and go to work.
anyone hooked on these stupid shows should go to school, or work!
I am truly “heart-broken” that they are cancelling All My Children. I simply can’t believe that the network has done this. Why is it that some of the most loved probrams end up cancelling? Due to the lack of viewers? I don’t believe this for a minute. I have watched this show for years – my grandmother watched this show, and how many of you out there feel the same way? Isn’t there a way, somehow, this show can be saved? The networks put on these ridiculous reality shows – some of which are very questionable to young viewers – but that’s okay? Why are so many young children reinacting what they see on some of these reality shows? The network needs to rethink their decision. It’s truly a sad, sad decision.
This to me is a slap in the face to all the faithful OLDER people who have been watching these two shows forever. If they get cancelled I will NEVER watch another show during their time frame, specially another stupid cooking show!!!! Yes people work but do you really think that those “younger people” that don’t work have the time to watch a cooking show or any show at that hour? NOOOOO..They are mostly younger people raising young children. It is us, SENIORS, that have enjohyed growing up with these shows and faithfully watch them daily – taping them when we can’t see the during the day..BIG BIG MISTAKE!!!!
Don’t take away this institution!
This is total B***sh**!!!!
How can they cancel All My Children?? I’ve been watching for 35 years!!! And so have my sister, nieces, grandkids. This is ridiculous. I cannot believe ABC would do something as stupid as this. How can they claim poor ratings??? Maybe they need better writers to boost up the ratings. I feel I’ve grown with all these actors over the years. Pine Valley is my 2nd home!!!
SHAME ON ABC FOR CANCELING SUCH A FANTASTIC SHOW!!
i cant believe that all my children is going to be cancelled! all my children and general hospital are the only two shows i watch i dvr them and look forward to them every night. this is so upseting! is there anything we can do to stop this from happening?? really cancelling them theyre part of my childhood!
SURE THEY NEED TO DO SOME THING BUT JUST LOOK AT WHAT ABC HAS ON AIR TRASH THIER NEWS IS ABOUT THE ONLY THING THEY HAVE. NO DOGHT THEY ARE HAVING TROBLE.
If you put on a talk show on I will( not) I mean will not watch it. I love amc it shows a lot of good true life issues. Besides putting a lot of people out of a job way to good abc
Oh Passions, how i miss your complete & utter craziness.
Me too! I loved Passions. Last night even Family Guy gave a shout-out to Passions.
I am still amazed that show lasted as long as it did. IFC should rerun it.
One point to make – all three of the ABC soaps have virtually identical ratings – AMC and OLTL in particular.
One rumour and issue around AMC is its inability to stay on budget. Remember, one of the stated goals of the move from NY to LA last year was to give the ABC west coast execs more control over costs. Lots of rumours out there – most pointing that, despite the changes, AMC continues to blow its budget.
OLTS appears to be run on a much tighter ship, meeting or coming in below budget. I’m not an insider, but would imagine with the stresses on daytime this is an important consideration in deciding which of the two shows will go first.
On another note, it will probably be a cold day in heck before ABC cancels General Hopsital.
Why? Just because its GH?
IMO, a TV show is a TV show. And if its not profitable and viable to keep it on, it will go. A sign that GH isn’t all that safe should be the supposed 50% budget cut it was forced to take. If true, how is this show anymore safe than the others?
GH pretty much saved the entire industry throughout the late seventies and eighties. What GH did was not on revolutionize the ‘soaps’, but made a ton of cash for ABC. Yes, GH has been hit with steep budget cuts, but, ALL SOAPS have. But as crappy as GH has been this past decade, they have one of the most loyal, if not ‘cult’ like followings that continue to watch. The ratings may not be what it was back in 80′s, but all shows are like that. But they are always in the top 3 rated show, sometimes 2. It’s not going anywhere.
Ok, to rephrase–
It will be a cold day in heck WHILE FRONS IS IN CHARGE OF ABC DAYTIME before GH is cancelled.
For some reason, the guy seems to have it hard for GH at the expense of the other soaps.
I do not believe there will be any soaps left on the regular networks by 2020. It’s one thing for a genre to go through a rough patch in the ratings but ever since the O.J. Trial and the advent of reality TV, soaps have seen continuous erosion of the audience.
Therefore, General Hospital is not an untouchable icon like 60 Minutes or Saturday Night Live. Guiding Light was older than television itself. If that can get the chopping block, any soap can.
It will be sad to see the end of the soaps — a true passing of American pop culture (“will the last soap opera to leave the building please dump the matriarch in the swimming pool?”) but the networks are not charities. They can’t keep endlessly running these shows for an aging audience .
Well, Seth darlin’, this “aging” viewer has money to spend, and is loyal to AMC sponsors. If AMC is cancelled, I won’t switch to another soap and I don’t do talk shows, and I will actively seek out OLTL & GH sponsors to boycott! Just sayin’…………..
I pretty much gave up after CBS canceled GL and ATWT. But when Disney decided to end SoapNet to be replaced by Disney Junior, their commitment to daytime is just as shaky as the other two networks. However, CBS renewed both Y&R and B&B and NBC renewed DAYS to go at least a few more years. ABC has yet to announce if shows are getting renewed.
As long as General Hospital is safe, I’m happy. I hate soaps, except for GH. It has legitimately talented actors and compelling storylines. The rest of the soaps on the air are garbage.
Yeah, the mobster-glorifying GH is pure class! I watch and enjoy the show, but to act as if it’s quality while everything else is junk is just stupid.
You cannot be serious
I remember episode 1 and enjoy the show more today than ever. We all grew up together, had kids and grandkids together. For me it would be the end of a big part of my life. OLTL would be easier to let go of. But that’s just me.
ABC/Disney should start by getting rid of Brian Frons before deciding on canceling a soap for another talk show.
Getting rid of Brian Frons would go a long way toward saving the soaps.
You said a mouthful. From where I sit he has single-handedly ruined ABC Daytime. AMC has been unwatchable for a few years now after decades of success and stupid blunders like firing Natalia Livingston (killing off Emily) and not keeping Sarah Brown on the network are just the tip of the iceberg. He is so out of touch he just tried to fire Becky Herbst and that blew up instantly. Stop him before it’s too late ABC.
You need to go a little further – back to his tenure at NBC. When SEARCH FOR TOMORROW started getting tighter on their stories and was up for a few Daytime Emmys (only not to get them), he went to the press and said SEARCH would be around until at least 40. It got canceled a few months later in December 1986. The same thing happened to PORT CHARLES in 2003.
Like the behemoth department stores before it, daytime serials are now finally dying off. The demise is a product of a cultural shift away from a dream/aspirational centered society to a bare-bones cold hard reality. The audience alone is a relic of the past– a single income home (dad used to come home from the factory; now it’s his minimum wage cashier job, or I mean “lead financial associate”) There is nary a ‘housewife’ anymore; and certainly not one whose fantasies rely on a rich prince charming in a time-encapsulated, thriving small town where nobody is unemployed. The American dream is dead– This is the generation of cold-hard facts. Daytime never really picked that up, never really evolved. And like the aspirational, fantasy based department stores of the boomtime, the daytime soap opera needed to find its saviour prince charming years ago. If the shows had been written in the tone of prime-time drama, there may have been a shot. But the only people clinging to the Port Charles or Lanview fantasy are shut ins and elderly… they’re not buying Cascade dish detergent or brand name cereals. It’s over. It’s all over. ABC’s reloctaion to LA from NYC was nothing more than a re-arrangment of the Titanic’s deck chairs. Changing the story, not the studio, was the only thing that could have saved you. The time has come to bid adieu, as Erica and husband number whatever, ride off into the sunset.
I think the truth is that the most important audience for any TV show is a bunch of twentysomething/thirtysomething ad buyers, and they tend to like shows like The Office and Mad Men.
It seems as if the networks ought to be able to figure out how to find a new life for the soaps by tying in to the Mad Men audience. After all, if you really love Mad Men, wouldn’t you like watching a few original episodes from the shows that the Mad Men agency’s clients were sponsoring?
But I think the truth is that people 65 and older still have Social Security; still, in many case, have decent pension plans; often have some 401(k) money; often own their homes outright; and, in general, are doing OK. They watch TV on TV, without Tivoing past the ads. They shop at big supermarkets and often buy brand name products.
Younger people, in contrast, tend to be really screwed financially, practically bite off their arms to avoid watching ads, shop at farmers’ markets and strange little health food stores; by weird little organic brands (which may actually be owned by Kraft or Unilever but are pretending to be based in a farmhouse in Vermont); and hardly ever buy brand-name products, unless the brand is Apple.
I think the obsession with the 18-33 demographic and the disdain for the 50+ demographic is pretty silly.
Just wanted to chime in and say that I am with you on keeping the show. The thing is that I am 35, happily on marrage 1, own our own business and home and do not do the credit card thing. I have been watching this show since I was in kindergarten (a least that is eariiest memory). I even remember the GH Luke & Laura wedding, it was on my 6th b-day. OLTL, I loved Tina & Cord and remember when Nikki Smith took over when Vicky had Jessica, I think. Although it’s not my favorite. AMC I remember when Jenny died. Nina & Cliff, Ellen & Ross, Natalie & Jeremy. I would leave lunch in H.S. to watch AMC and come back when it was over. However, you are right about the advertisements. I can not stand live TV anymore, I will pause or record it to avoid them.
Sorry and thanks for letting me share those memories, they were great. I am not giving up hope yet.
The numbers show you are wrong there are many many people who aren’t shut in that enjoy the escape of realty and endulge in some daytime drama..there are many new young viewers that have started watching soaps. Btw I have a family that does buy cascade still gather around the dinner table and eat our meals together last thing I need is more news shows gossip talk shows to watch during the day having depressing news on tv from 4-7 then again 10-midnight jmho
Spike, this is a brilliant analysis and wonderfully written, too. I called a friend who is an ardent AMC fan and read every word of your post to her. She wasn’t happy about AMC maybe ending, but she understands it now.
Yes, AMC has only itself to blame. I’ve been wondering for years why the daytime serials didn’t make an attempt to evolve their idealized story-worlds as the world changed around them. It also reminds of the newspaper business, and their reluctance to acknowledge the internet’s effect on readership. The world is changing and you either evolve or die.
Caralea thank you very much! And great call on the newspaper business! It’s sad and bittersweet. 41 years? Indeed, even in Llanview and Pine Valley there’s no corporate allegiance. But the times, they are-a changin’. You flatter me.
I pray this show will not be cancelled. It has so many story lines that are actually believable. I watched One Life to Live and cannot stand more than five minutes. The talent they have on All My Children is outstanding. Give them a chance. We do not need one more talk show. PLEASE DO NOT CANCEL ALL MY CHILDREN….
PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!DO NOT CANCEL ALL MY CHILDREN….I HAVE BEEN WATCHING THIS SOAP SINCE IT STARTED….GREAT STORY LINE…ALSO TO THE BIMBO WHO THINKS FAT LAZY HOUSE WIFE WATCH THIS…WHO THE HELL ARE YOU…ALL KINDS OFF PEOPLE WATCH THIS SHOW…INCLUDING OPRAH,,AND CAROL BERNET….YOU ARE A LOSER!!!!
I work fulltime, tape it, watch all the shows on the weekend and will stop watching anything on ABC and encourage all my friends to do the same if AMC is cancelled.
What is this post? It sounds like a shallow introduction to a bad post-graduate thesis – one with a good deal of pretension and extremely little sense of the genre or knowledge of the audience.
Do you soap viewers feel “shut in”? Do you feel “elderly”? Are in need of Cascade or cereal??
This post reminds me of others, who pontificate that soaps are “dying” because people aren’t home anymore to watch them. If that’s true, then why even replace them? If people aren’t home to watch, why not just shut down television completely during the day since no-one is watching? These people are obviously even less tech-savvy than I, since I’ve been recording virtually everyhing, on a VCR to begin with, later on a DVR, and watching it at my convenience since the 80′s. Why hasn’t anyone ever discussed how seriously outdated the Neilson ratings are, which depend on people watching tv live?? I don’t even do that with nighttime television.
Or maybe we’re just too busy putting away our Cascade and our cereal….
And rather than re-arrange the deck chairs on the Titantic, this poster might do better to actually give this some serious thought, and get a better grip on the reality of the situation. How about the homogenization of popular entertainment due to the networks absorbtion by giant conglomerates? How about the adamant refusal by the big three networks to realize that the glory days of being the only show in town is over? How about the realization that the Neilsons are utterly irrelevant and have been since the advent of any type of recording device?
The “housewife” soap model hasn’t been true for the last 40 years, but it still gets trotted out every time someone wants to explain the change in daytime television. At best, it’s lazy thinking. At worst, it’s wilful ignorance.
I have to admire, though, Spike’s ability to place his screed in so many different venues on the internet.
Spike you nailed it perfectly, you truly have a gift with words!!! “shut-ins” and people who need to get out there and contribute to society and stop depending on tax payers to give them money and provide health care.
At least go volunteer at a hospital or something!!!
people need to get a job like the rest of us!!!
It would be easier to replace one of the “bookend” shows General Hospital or All My Children so as not to break up the block. Canceling One Life and moving All My Children would further eroad it’s ratings. One Life to Live is also the best show creativly and has a strong following despite it’s lack of promotion by ABC.
Since the disappearance of other soaps, One Life to Live has gotten really good.
Of course, OLTL has gotten better–it has absorbed so many actors from Guiding Light and As the World Turns! CBS’ super stupid move to cancel these veterans was the biggest mistake it has ever made, IMHO. I love soaps, especially loved GL and ATWT. With their demise, I turned to the ABC soaps, kind of by default. What joy to find my old “friends” there! While I am a “Days” fan, I don’t watch AMC, but would in a heartbeat.
So, the dire predictions of yet another soap and the genre in general is very disheartening!
Why make the move to LA then? did soapnet help the ratings? financially doesn’t make sense, how much do these actors get paid?
Jake – The situation with having Soapnet around is that it gave ABC (which owns all three of its soaps) additional airings and ad revenue over which to spread the costs of the show. The shows air 3 times during the week on Soapnet (same-day airing in Primetime, plus a late night and early morning airing the next day), plus an additional airing on the weekend as part of a marathon/omnibus showing. In short, it gave ABC five total airings each week to earn revenue that will be gone after Jan 1.
Unless a white knight swoops in and agrees to daily airings, the closure of Soapnet decreases the revenue the shows will earn, hurting their profitability.
Exactly, Jake! WHat a waste to spend millions of dollars to move cast, build sets, etc. If anyone asks what’s wrong w/ TV and Hollywood in general, this is it. The left hand has no idea that the right hand is in its own pocket jerking itself off.
I’m still bitter that NBC took off Another World and replaced it with the trainwreck of Passions.
I’m so happy you said that — yes it still stings! Loved Another World, the best soap ever! But NBC just did not have control of their lineup — they mistakenly gave up their daytime lineup to the affiliates, so the affiliates could choose to air their soaps if they wanted to or not, thus decreasing their ratings.
Think of all the current stars now that came from another world — brad pitt (small role), anne heche, lindsay lohan, morgan freeman, Ray Liotta,
Yea, ANOTHER WORLD was the best. Still remember the days of Steve Frame, Alice and Rachel.
I remember watching Another World and then watching AMC with my grandmother…I loved Another World as well and sadly, after it was cancelled I stopped watching AMC everyday. I had been laid off for about 14 months, so I started watching AMC again and it was as if I had never stopped watching…the Erica story lines have not changed in 41 years and I think that is part of the problem…have her get married and be more like the Martin’s…I am just so over Erica and the same plot line with Jack…snore!
OLTL is SO much better than GH the writing and acting and story lines are so good.GH has recyled stories so much and has so few interesting plots(all mob storys gets old rally fast)I can`t figure how gh is beating OLTL .
To say that OLTL is better than GH is ridiculous. Only a handful of the OLTL actors are actually quality actors. GH has the best of the best in daytime & heavy hitters like Tony Geary, Maurice Benard, Steve Burton, Jonathan Jackson etc. People who like to recycle that same line about GH only having Mob related stories must not actually be watching the show. I honestly have not heard Sonny call in a hit nor has Jason followed through with a hit in well over a year. Remember when Franco came to town & before he left the first time, told Jason that for every kill Jason makes that he will make one too? As far as I know Jason only killed one man since then… Carter, who raped Michael in prison, which had nothing to do with the mob. We have McCall & Jackal PI, Alexis & Diane’s legal firm, LuLu & Maxie working for Crimson etc. I think GH is an easy target for people to just dismiss it by claiming mob violence. As someone who watches the show, you all just sound like someone who hasn’t seen it in years and thinks they know what’s going on… You clearly don’t.
Sonny hasn’t called in a hit? Are you still watching?
What the heck was that about 10 days ago when he was actually going to kill Shawn/Sean (sp?) in Carly’s own living room in front of his own family?!
That’s about as low as this mob junk can get. Obviously, you luvs you some “Sopranos Lite” if you are that blind to what’s happening on this show.
Steve Burton and Maurice Bernard aren’t that good. It may be because the GH writers like to make Jason and Sonny get mad, yell, fall in love, marry, cheat or get cheated on, yell, go after someone, go crazy, and repeat which hinders their performances. GH is split between trying to be some kind of soapy Sopranos and being camp. It needs to decide, make Tony Geary and the rest of the cast have way more screen time, and go from there. It use to be awesome, but is becoming more stagnant. OLTL is getting really good because it’s focusing on all of the cast, making thoughtful, twisting storylines while keeping them move forward at a rational pace, and not be focused on a few main actors who repeat themselves.
I disagree. I understand what you’re saying. From a distance it could seem like that’s what Sonny is all about but I think you completely missed the mark with Jason. What everyone loves about Steve Burton are his emotional scenes. Whether it be with him & Monica, or the beautiful scenes between him & his son. Steve is top notch. There’s a reason why they call him the hit man with the heart of gold. Nobody can make you cry like Steve!
I’m sorry, but I must disagree; Steve Burton is blessed with the bluest of eyes which when they glisten are hard to ignore and very moving. Outside of that, there is very little that I find even remotely emotional about Steve Burton’s facial expressions.
When is GENERAL HOSPITAL going to be about more of the lives IN the hospital? So far, it’s been everything but. Even the other soaps that have main characters in their town’s hospitals have more airtime than this mob story. Even its’ short-lived spin-offs NIGHTSHIFT and PORT CHARLES had more hospital storylines. It’s like they’re stuck in the rut of being a mobster show…why don’t they change the name?
OLTL right now is way better that GH in terms of storylines and writing. GH needs to stop repeating themselves with the mobster/love traingle storylines and branch out.
AMEN!! I am so sick of GH & the same story, the same people and hell even the same old “DEAD” wives keep coming back.
There have been allgegedly been talks to possibly merge AMC and OLTL into one soap which could be a way to save some of the beloved characters like Tad the Cad and LaLucci.. I don’t think the move to CA helped anything if anything it hurt them, they lost some key players which dropped their ratings and yet they still don’t hit the budget. I’ll be sad to see them go
NO!!!!!!! All My Children just needs to have more realistically happy high profile couples. I can’t think of one except Ruth/Joe, which doesn’t count. Breaking up Erica/Jack, Amanda/Jake, Annie/JR, Kendall/Zack, Bianca/Reese. Not giving Ryan/Greenleigh time to even get married before being slammed with problems. Relationships is what the show has always been about.
Here the problem, Brian Frons is vp of abc daytime, and they say he has a concept of daytime dramas…However it been said that General Hospital, All my Children he would save over One Life to Live…Yes OLTL is under budget over AMC, but I hear AMC is a train wreck as for writing…ABC owns it soaps unlike CBS andNBC…Anne Sweeney Brian Frons’ boss has no clue…Disney Jr, will takeover soapnet next yr…What you have are clueless executives @the top who dont give a damn about the viewer…The top and shareholders care about a return on their money. They love to spit these famousi lines.” Soaps have ran their course, with new media and 500+ channels it hard to capture the audience. It also costly to produce a show that been on for decades, we spend millions and lose millions. Where a talkshow cheaper to produce.” However Brian and Anne aren’t taking any paycuts from their 6 to 7 figure salary. Pls find me a television executive that about realness for the fan/audience than being thirsty for a profit share…All of them spit B.S. and are graduates of B.S University. They have no concept of television, the audience and character driven…Even primetime the same…Wakeup people it B.S.
Every soap that NBC owned or co-owned had disappeared.
DAYS OF OUR LIVES-once co-owned (and not canceled). Columbia Pictures Television bought it outright in the late 70s.
GENERATIONS-co-owned. Canceled in 1991. Reruns on BET for a few years.
THE DOCTORS-owned. Canceled in 1982, along with TEXAS.
SANTA BARBARA-co-owned. Canceled in 1993.
SUNSET BEACH-co-owned. Canceled in 1999, along with ANOTHER WORLD a few months earlier.
PASSIONS-co-owned. Canceled in 2007, rescued by DirecTV under an abbreviated schedule and then canceled again in 2008.
Cancel all of them and put on more talk shows/courtroom shows/reality shows. Who cares about daytime TV, anyway? While you’re at it, cancel The Price is Right, too. Who needs game shows when you can fill the airwaves with other garbage.
Heck, why not go to a black screen from 9 AM to 4 PM. There’s nothing on worth watching, Oprah or no Oprah.
Daytime TV provides many jobs to creative professionals in the business so it is definitely unfortunate to see them in such serious decline.
I would agree that One Life To Live is clearly the best soap in ABC’s line up creatively and the fact that they stay on budget is another feather in their cap. OLTL has not always gotten the attention from ABC it deserves, especially since in many ways, being in the middle of the lineup in some regard may it an anchor. Its decline has more to do with poor management and the networks inability to realize that its audience was changing and to update its storylines and storytelling techniques accordingly.
What if they did a huge Dickensonian crossover and took the best characters from each soap and created one “super soap”?
I like AMC and OLTL!! I stopped watching GH a few years ago because their storylines were way too far-fetched. Just too unrealistic to me. I know…soaps are unrealistic but GH is just over the top unrealistic. If the problem is they can’t stay within their budget, then put someone in charge that can make that happen, don’t just cancel the shows. If another boring talk show gets put in place of these two soap….I will definitely NOT being watching. I’d rather just turn the tv off!! They only thing I look forward to watching in daytime is AMC and OLTL. And please….don’t interrupt with BREAKING NEWS to find out it’s yet another hous long police chase. Give me legitimate breaking news that’s important that can’t wait for the 5 o’clock news hour.
Broadcast television is dying across the board, Not just in daytime but everywhere. The eroding of the daytime soap operas is just the tip of the iceberg. Unfortunately, the networks are no longer concerned about losing long-term viewers -their concern is on profits. You would think advertisers would be able to support these shows with all the commericals but I guess that is no longer the case. Each year the broadcast networks get a smaller and smaller piece of the pie -soon all television will be cheap reality, game and news programs. The only scripted stuff will be on cable and online. The networks just can’t compete anymore as evidenced by NBC’s drastic Jay Leno makeover last year.
I’m upset that soap net is being replaced with yet another Disney channel. I loved that if GH was interrupted I could watch later on soap net ABC missed out on really making soap net a great channel. There are many web only soaps that could have found a home on this network. GH needs to replace Guza and do some new material this hit and run story has been overkill literally.
It sounds like it all depends on who you ask. GH fans will say GH is best, AMC fans will say AMC is best, etc.etc. It’s a shame to me that these execs can’t figure out a way to make this stuff work… how about a primetime special here and there? How about marketing your cast more than Dancing with the Stars.
Yes, a lot of the daytime audience work but most of us DVR the show or watch on-line. If I’m home sick, I want my GH. I recently lost my job and I can’t even turn on the TV the stuff that is on there is so annoying and trashy.
As for Soap Net, what gives there? You think a pre-school audience is better? They’re so UNcreative that they see “create pre-school channel-get mom and dad =advertiser dollars” most UNCREaTIVE TV professionals I’ve ever seen, it’s a real shame… how about some competition for Lifetime? How about some more original programming? Movies? Market a night time line up of soaps… they just don’t promote themselves I don’t understand.I don’t know how they let these people stay in charge.
How about some more original programming? Movies? Market a night time line up of soaps
Do you mean like in late night in the 11:30, 12:30 am slot? CBS tried that in the pre-Letterman 90s and it didn’t work. With late night even more crowded than usual I don’t see this strategy changing.
The South American telenovelas are still massively popular, garnering huge ratings for Univision, but other than that I don’t know of any five-night strip of any scripted show that can succeed on broadcast TV.
Telenovelas are still relatively successful because they are aimed at an aspirational culture, i.e. the growing Spanish-speaking middle class. How many contemporary U.S. “housewives” are there when compared to women who work? 2011 America is necessarily driven by two-income families, not the nine-to-five Dad who comes home to wife/mom’s dinner on the table. Soapnet’s going dark is a lamentable (to daytime serial fans, not Disney stockholders), but hardly surprising business decision, pure and simple. Remember, they don’t call it “show-art”–”art” vis-a-vis daytime drama defined in the broadest sense… and I’m a fan of the genre.
As long as they keep my GH!!
But it would be very sad, because I am sure there are many loyal fans!
Here’s a suggestion: Don’t cancel, just completely re-adjust. There is a significant number of semi recognizable, legit hard working actors in L.A. who would love to do a limited stint on a soap. These actors are no longer 25 years old and are considered “too old” for television because they are between the ages of 35 to 65. Create short term stories that run no longer than a couple of months, with a beginning, middle and an end. Cast actors how can really act. Not just pretty people. Switch over to SAG and you have a hit. Do you know how many SAG actors who are a few thousand dollars away from qualifying for health and pension coverage who’d jump to the chance do a short term run on a soap and qualify for insurance? Tons!!!! It’s simple. You’d save a ton of money because you wouldn’t have to sign long term contracts. Short term story lines. Like reality shows. Copy the same format. Allow the writers to write more intelligent story lines and cast actors who can actually deliver. And really mix it up. There are so few people of color with real strong story lines on soaps. Mix it up. Shack it up. People will watch.
This is a GREAT idea– it would definitely increase viewership. Win Win all around. I hope they listen. Personally I’ve watched AMC on and off for nearly all of the 41 yrs it’s been on. And though I’m critical of the writing, I’d never want to see it go.
That is an AWESOME idea!!!! Total win-win for everyone. And it DOES work for James Franco on GH.
Second thought – take them back to a half hour?? Producing enough content for an hour/day makes for REALLY long days – and constant overtime for the crew. AMC had horrendous filming hours – not because the cast wasn’t prepared, but because they were doing prime-time-type scenes (medical, on location, etc)and had to fit a week’s worth of filming into a day. So it took 18-20 hours, and blew the budget once again….. The crew consistantly said it was the WORST show for staying on schedule. But I think it’s because the schedule may have been unrealistic…
That was my thought, too. Soaps started at fifteen minutes, then were lengthened to half an hour, then to an hour. Why not cut back to half an hour again? Audience attention spans are getting shorter; they’d probably like it!
Also, ABC has done a lot of character crossovers in the past; if they wanted to hold on to some of the AMC audence they could merge it with GH. Have all the most popular characters move to Port Charles, and get rid of the less-popular GH ones.
(I stopped watching GH a few years ago because I just got tired of the endless gangster stories.)
That is a fabulous idea! Bring back some of the characters that didn’t die off (please, no more amnesia), showcase actors from other venues we haven’t seen in a while (cameo appearances rock!), introduce quirky new actors with some comic timing ala Tad and Brooke (GOD, I miss her); all of whom will do the short term story line. Mix it up a little! Get some decent writers to inject some new ideas…..like allowing Erica to age gracefully and getting Jack to remove the stick up his —. And maybe let someone get into a car without crashing into a tree? Yeah, THERE’S a concept! The ridiculous move to CA that created cheap looking sets and cheaper lighting that makes it look like it was filmed in the dressing room at WalMart. Really?!? They probably could have saved a ton of money by staying put in the old studios! Hmmmm? Just sayin’…. Look, AMC is just a little bent, so fix it, change it, whatever….just don’t kill it!!