
As it picked up drama pilot Perception to series today, I hear TNT passed on the other two pilots that had been in contention: Mike Robe’s Bird Dog, about a father-daughter cop team, and Allan Loeb’s untitled project based on Marshall Karp’s novel The Rabbit Factory. The single series order to come out of the three pilots leaves some shelf space as TNT is yet to receive the two highest-profile pilots from this batch: the Dallas reboot, which is in pre-production, and the Robert Redford-produced Generations, which is in early stages of casting.
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TNT is in negotiations to pick up drama pilots “Grace” and “Heartland” to series, while opting not to bring back paramedic drama “Saved” for a second season, sources said.
Like TNT’s hit cop drama “The Closer,” which stars Kyra Sedgwick, both “Grace” and “Heartland” boast big-name leads.
Oscar winner Holly Hunter toplines “Grace,” playing a jaded Oklahoma City police detective who is visited by an irascible angel and offered an opportunity to redeem her life.
I’m actually disappointed that Bird Dog wasn’t picked up because I was intrigued by the premise. Sure it had a terrible title that would’ve needed to be changed (look at Terriers failure) but the show sounded fun. I guess the show just didn’t work considering the problems it had from the get go (losing Eliza Dushku didn’t help, at all).
“The Rabbit Factory” also sounded interesting but I guess TNT is trying to gear away from procedurals considering Dallas will likely be picked up (and that’s definitely not “procedural” material) and Generations sounds like it’ll be more in line with Dallas then say The Closer. I’m just glad that Perception got the pick up, I hope its good.
About time someone SMACKED DOWN Mr. Allan “I’m an overrated hack” Loeb. Beyond being insufferable the guy is more bark than bite, writing-wise. But people still pay him gads of money for his crap and I’ve seen him tooling around to studios in his fancy sporty car. Must be good to be him. It has taken way too long for someone to put him in check!
Dear Mr. Inquisitive,
Envy is a terrible place to live. It’s worse than an apartment on olympic. Mr. Loeb works hard for his money and if you don’t think every writer works for it, then you aren’t a working writer.
Best of luck living in reality. Sounds like it’s going to take work.
It sounds more like Dr. Inquisitive has given an honest comment and one of Mr. Loeb’s hangers on or Mr. Loeb responded himself under alias. That said Inquisitive seems to have paid attention to Mr. Loeb’s career and the lackluster financial results it has given to studios and networks both in television and film while only enriching Mr. Loeb and his hangers on. Just because someone works hard, it does not mean they are good at what they do. Perhaps Mr. Loeb is to Hollywood what Mr. Ponzi or Mr. Madoff were to Wall Street…er, Mr. Loeb is to Wall Street, The Switch, Things We Lost in the Fire, New Amsterdam…Waiting for a successful outcome. Also, demise seems to follow each of his stars. Just an opinion in support of free speech and series pick ups.
jealous much??
wasn’t Eliza Dushku attached to Bird Dog before dropping out? Good thing she did i guess.
I thought “Saving Grace” had run its course?
There’s more of this to come.
They sound like they suck!!! TNT shows are sooooo boring!
TNT should go back to making original TV mini-series movies. The Bible stories they used to do were great.
TNT ..Talentless Numbing Television
I can’t wait for the Dallas series! I’m sure that’ll get picked up. The only thing is it doesn’t really feel like TNT. The script is great, though
Allan Loeb IS ridiculously overrated. I wish he would take more care and thought with his scripts. They are a sloppy mess. He is, however, wildly successful, financially. Then again, the Spice Girls aren’t exactly known for making great, if popular, moneymaking music, right? So there it is… Allan Loeb is ‘the Spice Girls of screenwriting.’
I don’t know Allan Loeb, and have never read/seen anything he’s ever done before, but I will say that I read a lot of pilot scripts (I’m an actor’s assistant), and I quite enjoyed his TNT project. It wasn’t the best script I ever read, but it was miles and miles away from the worst. I did think it was strong enough to make it to series, and I’m a little disappointed to see that it hasn’t.
And before I get accused, please know that I have absolutely NO stake in Allan Loeb or TNT or anybody associated with that pilot in any way. My life is not better or worse for this pilot not being picked up to series, I’m just calling it like I see it…
I work as a TNT executive. I was mildly disappointed in Allan Loeb’s execution of this pilot but it is fair to say it wasn’t the best or the worst pilot i’ve ever read, just middling. Boring. Unoriginal. A single stretched into a double, to borrow from baseball. I was even more disturbed by the way Mr. Loeb carried himself as a potential exec on this series. Dude has an elephantine ego and a healthy dose of humility would be appreciated by one whose talents, judging by the execution of Allan’s movie scripts, lags arithmetically behind his self-regard. That’s the honest truth. I’m glad my network did a pass and wish Allan best of luck (along with a personality/screenwriting upgrade) in the future. The truth hurts, but there it is. A lot of better talented writers could use a scintilla of the good fortune that Allan has received. He has talent but it is raw and underwhelming to this point. If he were kinder and humbler he’d be more sufferable.
I’m mixed when it comes to Allan Loeb. He does come across as a bit arrogant in interviews and you’d just have to feel that there’s a good chance the quality of his work is not top level when he’s working on so many projects at once. Sheldon Turner is another example of a writer who openly admitted to working on three or four things at once, and he’s only had three produced credits so far, with 40 or more projects still sitting on the shelf in development. But that doesn’t necessarily reflect on Turner’s writing, it’s just statement. But, when it comes to Loeb, I can just imagine that he’s not every assistant/wannabe screenwriter’s favorite guy out there in Hollywood. I’m sure he’s viewed as a lucky prick who’s taking their potential jobs from them.
But part of me (as an aspiring screenwriter myself, currently waiting on word about two of my scripts I’ve just sent out west) is rooting for him. In the sense, that, if he can get that level of success, so can I. Because, basically, that’s the kind of writer I want to be. One who writes in various genres and isn’t stereotyped.
What’s next from Allan Loeb? “So Undercover” for 2011 that stars Miley Cyrus. He co-wrote the script with Steven Pearl and is producing it. Plus…
“Rock of Ages” (2012) (rewrote an early draft of the musical)
“Here Comes the Boom” (2012) (co-wrote this Kevin James MMA comedy)
“Visibility” (2012) (spec thriller he wrote)
“Escape From New York” (rewrite of the remake)
“The Charm Artists” (spec action comedy he wrote)
“Untitled Allan Loeb/Bradley Cooper Baseball Project” (spec he wrote)
“Boy Named Sue” (spec he wrote for Ryan Reynolds)
“Out of This World” (spec that I can’t explain briefly)
“Emergency!” (adaptation of the book for Robert Downey Jr.)
“Avon Man” (rewrite of Kevin Bisch comedy for Vince Vaughn)
“Old St. Louis” (rewrite for David O. Russell/Vince Vaughn project)
“Protection” (spec thriller that may star Denzel Washington and Russell Crowe)
“The Only Living Boy in New York” (spec that got it all started)
“Arranged” (spec rom-com)
“Green Wave” (rewrite)
“Men” (remake of German comedy)
“A Little Game Without Consequence” (remake that was going to star Jim Carrey and Cameron Diaz at one time)
“Be With You” (remake of Japanese thriller)
“The Valet” (remake of French film)
Plus he’s got several TV shows in the works including the one mentioned above.
Oh, and also, he did a “polish” for the pilot script to the upcoming Spielberg series “Terra Nova”.
HOW ABOUT TNT GETS RID of that unwatchable HAWTHORNE???
I hear Will Smith is not only doing notes but may direct an episode!!
How about his 10 yr old daughter score the music
That show has been horrible since the first episode, then it almost got a bit better but then fell apart- what a OLD TIRED idea it plays like it was written in 1999. so badddddddddddddddddddd
Wow. Looks like Allan Loeb has a thin skin! To come on this board as “PT Maatta” and list all of the writing projects on tap is the acme of arrogance. Most of those projects, I might add, while lucrative look like celluloid turd. Loeb’s writing is AVERAGE at best but unfortunately our industry rewards half-talented but tireless hacks who will throw spaghetti at the wall and try to get a sale. It is impossible to write so fast and so plentiful and have it be good. Not even Billy Wilder was as prolific as Allan Loeb, not even by a fraction. We remember Billy Wilder’s great writing showing great range, from drama to comedy. Will we remember Allan Loeb? Judging by what he’s done to this point, probably not. A hack is a hack.
The lack of quality so endemic in Loeb’s work is saddening because one can see the kernel of decent ideas in his work. What he lacks is craftsmanship, the patience and sweat to make those good ideas sustain themselves for 100-plus pages of a script. So long as people (his agents and green producers) keep writing checks and enabling him the longer we will have to deal with his half-baked scripts ending up as half-baked movies. Bad deal all around, except for him because he gets to cash the checks.
Part of Loeb, though, I’m sure hankers for “a winner” and the acclaim that comes from writing QUALITY stuff, not racking up a QUANTITY of movies, judging by his IMDP page detailing said prolificness. Most writers I know would rather be prolific-less and write the occasional gem than to be prolific for turgid, tin prose. Wake-up call, Allan!
Allan Loeb once said in an interview he was striving to have the impact in Hollywood that Billy Wilder had. Allan, you’re no Billy Wilder. Billy had talent and dedication. You have a bit of talent and a lot of hack-dom. Best of luck to you.
I wish TNT would bring on a smart legal thriller. Where’s Grisham and Thurow when we need them?