EXCLUSIVE: No one’s been harder on Universal than me for all its recent years of misses and no hits (if you don’t count Illumination Entertainment’s Despicable Me and Hop). So I’m relieved that the studio has a big fat blockbuster overseas in Fast Five, which releases into North American theaters this Friday as the fifth installment of the very popular street racing franchise.
But here’s what really gives me reason to think Universal might be back on the right track: what’s planned for Fast Six. No studio has ever dared to change the genre of a successful franchise, but I’ve learned that’s exactly what chairman Adam Fogelson and co-chairman Donna Langley are plotting. It’s a bold and provocative move. In summary, I like it.
It’s already known that Universal has started Chris Morgan – the screenwriter of Fast Five as well as The Fast And The Furious 3: Tokyo Drift, and Fast & Furious 4 — on the script for the sixth installment as part of his new production deal at the studio. But Morgan is also a great scripter of the crime-thriller genre, like Wanted. So what Fast Five sets up nicely is a Fast Six whose plot revolves around a major robbery. And Universal’s intent is to transform the street-racing franchise into a series of heist films.
It was Universal’s previous administration of chairman Marc Shmuger and co-chairman David Linde who put the original cast back together on Fast & Furious and then enjoyed a huge opening for what was then seen as a refreshed franchise. But Fogelson and Langley saw a roadblock ahead when they took over the studio: How long would or could this franchise last as is? “The question putting Fast Five and Fast Six together for us was: Can we take it out of being a pure car culture movie and into being a true action franchise in the spirit of those great heist films made 10 or 15 years ago?” Fogelson told me in an interview three weeks ago.
The studio honchos agreed that the next installments had to be less about street racing and about more inclusive subject matter. ”We’ve heard so many people say, ‘I’ve never seen one, and I’ve never wanted to see one,’ about the Fast franchise,” Fogelson said. “So if these movies were still about street racing, there was probably a ceiling on how many people would buy tickets. We wanted to see if we could raise it out of about racing and make car driving ability just a part of the movie, like those great chases in The French Connection, The Bourne Identity, The Italian Job,” Fogelson explained. With Dodge as a partner, “Our strategy behind one of the biggest bets we’ve ever made is that the business has gone so far towards CG action every weekend, that we really believe creating a movie with real action and real cars will be amazing stuff to people excited by seeing something real.”
Fogelson called Fast Five “the transitional movie.” The franchise has moved from Mexico and then Tokyo and now to Rio De Janeiro, where all the Universal biggies traveled last week for the film’s premiere. I don’t think it’s giving away anything to reveal that the new pic is not primarily about racing anymore. But if you think so, then DON’T READ ON! SPOILER ALERT! SPOILER ALERT! Dwayne Johnson (aka The Rock) plays a federal agent assigned to track down Paul Walker and the rest of the Fast team who sprung Vin Diesel from police custody. Now all the Fast guys are on the run, and will commit a crime, and Rock is right behind them. This movie again puts together most of the original cast plus some cast members from all of the prior four films. Fogelson says Johnson came to Universal seeking to become part of the franchise, and not only is he pivotal to the plot in Fast Five pitted against Vin, but he also wants to appear in and be integral to the action in Fast Six.
“This franchise has undergone more interesting twists and turns than any franchise I know of,” Fogelson said. “The first one was exciting because of the multi-cultural and multi-ethnic makeup of the cast, which drew over-indexes among Hispanics and Asians and African-American audiences. Then Vin went off doing other stuff, but the sequel still managed a $50M opening and became a mega-hit. Then Tokyo Drift was done for a lower price and it did far better internationally and less domestic. Most studios would have considered the franchise finished.
“But we went and got Vin to do a cameo. That last scene when audiences saw him was explosive. All of us sitting in that test screening in Chatsworth realized the franchise wasn’t over. We said, ‘Let’s get started.’ And so bringing in the original cast was a mega-win. So we went off to get the original players and the fourth pic opened to a humongous $71M. That was the first to open the first weekend in April. Before then, Fast has always always been a summer film. But now we had the highest opening weekend ever in April.”
Universal is trying to manage expectations for Fast Five and its domestic opening on April 29, so it’s low-balling hopes for at least a $50M to $60M opening. It’s done way better than expected overseas, where it’s opened in a few territories already, but sequels do best internationally. As for Fast Five domestically, “Based on screenings, this is the highest-testing movie in the franchise so far,” Fogelson noted. ”But we’ve absolutely left perfect room for where we want to go with this franchise. I don’t want to give away too much, but there are a lot of surprises at the end of Fast Five involving one of the biggest characters of the previous movies which will set up the franchise now as a series of heist action films.”
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Chris Morgan has done/is doing amazing work for that studio…I hope 47 Ronin is as good as Chris’ script, but im actually excited about the FF franchise again. Nice to see a writer rewarded so publicly and privately as well, especially when it’s been so well deserved. Way to go Universal, way to go Nikki and way to go Chris!
There are good writers and then there’s Morgan. Everything this guy touches turns to gold. King Midas, eat a fast and furious heatseeker to the nuts.
Not interested in another heist movie. It’s been done to death. If they go thru with that it’ll be one and out, then back to car culture.
Heist movies are ubiquitous. Stick with cars, you morons.
Who the hell is talking about. what do you know about the moron dude…………… Go on Fast and Furious……….We want more
Tricky idea but one with merit, I think. It makes sense for the characters in the franchise and the direction the narrative has taken snce the 4th movie. At the same time, because the series is schlocky fun more than high-caliber drama, the racing aspect fed a lot of its energy. If they can find a way to keep that alive – and give us, essentially, a brawnier ‘Ocean’s Eleven’ – than this would be a smart way to extend the brand.
Why are they attempting to fix something that isn’t broken?
This series has always revolved around heists. The first one, which was a straight ripoff of POINT BREAK, was about an undercover cop (Paul Walker) infiltrating a gang of armed robbers/street racers led by Vin Diesel. I haven’t seen FAST FIVE yet but the trailer reveals that robberies are still a major element of the story in this one. How is part 6 different – they’re just not having races in them anymore?
Uhhh, call me Bodhi, but why not re-make the real “POINT BREAK”??!!
Gimmee 2 Utah…
And before Point Break there was NO MAN’S LAND with Charlie Sheen. So who is ripping off who?
But I agree this franchise was ALWAYS a heist movie franchise, especially FF4.
This sounds like a good idea and this franchise has been one of the only bright spots for the studio. But I think that is more due to Neil Moritz than Universal.
They are the WORST studio to work for in town. They are awful. They ruin good scripts and can’t develop or improve bad ones. Ridley Scott directing Russell Crowe as ROBIN HOOD. This should have been amazing. instead it’s unwatchable.
I’ve worked there and heard the same stories from other writers and directors. Their execs seem more concerned about keeping their jobs and gaining control then doing good work.
When is the last time they put out a good movie, let alone a hit? Make a list of the movies they have made in the past few years and try to find a good one. Good luck.
I hate to be so negative but they are really are terrible to work with and don’t know how they all still have jobs. I saw in your BO report on their latest flop Your Highness how Uni execs said that this was the last film greenlit by the old regime…but besides Schmuger and Linde its all the SAME PEOPLE. All the same execs that developed and made all these bad flops movies are still there.
COMCAST do what you did with NBC clean house.
For an alleged writer/director this post is not very well written. It’s also naive to say that successful films are necessarily good films, which leads one to wonder if you’re really in the business. Uni has had several movies that made money over the past few years but whether they passed your standard of “good” is another story.
Bad idea. This is why all of the sequels have been bad. They focused too much on drugs, crime, mafia, cartels. Now they wanna focus it on heists? I know Fast Five is pretty much a heist film and im okay with that, but they have got to get back to street racing in one way or another.
No you dont have to have neon lights and stickers all over the cars because i think that culture is almost dead if not dead already. But the reason why the first was so great is because it was mostly about street racing while Dom’s robberies were a sub plot.
IF these characters are just straight up robbing people left and right all the time then why are we rooting for them. They really are the bad guys and it would just be really ridiculous for the people behind the film to expect audiences to root for them.
Yeah! I mean, can you even name ONE successful film about bank robbers…
Oh, wait. Sorry, it’s an entire GENRE that goes back to literally the first narrative film, (The Great Train Robbery).
Maybe after a few Fast and Furious heist movies, they can switch genres again and go for a zombie film. Or vampires. Zombie vampires. They steal a secret government formula for millions, but at the end of the film, it sets off the zombie vampire plague.
I actually enjoy these movies, even Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift. I’m not sure why, but I’ll probably follow along for the genre hop.
And Mila can be in it. And a cameo of Bruce Willis just for fun.
hollywood is so lame. god this idea is ridiculous.
will kill the franchise…drifting, racing is HUGE among kids for better or worse and the demo that make these a hit…duh.
Because now they can call it FAST HEIST instead of FAST SIX.
“Bold and provocative move” HAHAHAHA
You Hollywood types always crack me up! Yeah, Fast Six will certainly be “Godardian” or “Kubrickian,” I have no doubt about it! “Bold and provocative,” I’m gonna laugh at this one for a while I think… Just a proof how devoid of creativity your little town is when such adjectives can be written in an article about a movie which has four sequels already! Wow, it is not a car and hos flick anymore, there is also a heist in there! Pffff….
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Are you flipping kidding me? Fogelson and Langley have in the last few weeks forever alienated Guillermo del Toro, Jim Cameron, Paul Greengrass and other MAJOR filmmakers who will never work with them again and wish them ill. This studio is a joke with other studios planning to release films against theirs knowing that theirs will suck. I know Comcast are meeting with people to talk about the Ron Meyer job, but they all have to go. Debbie “How did I wake up in this Nightmare” Liebling who is useless, Donna Langley who is in way over her head. Scott Bernstein who is forever spouting about relationships he doesn’t actually have. ALL of them must go. Let Peter Cramer have the keys and you’ll see some success over there. Stop greenlighting Scott Stuber’s dollar one gross pictures since the $300 million dollar BATTLESHIP will be a hydrogen bomb talked about for years. Comcast- seriously- clean house FASTER and FURIOUSLY.
You didn’t say enough bad things about the people there. Here they are going to Rio on the Corporate dime and they filmed the movie in PUERTO RICO.
Why have they been allowed to suck for so long? Is it because Ron Meyer doesn’t want to face the future? Sorry the future is facing him now!
I agree with everything you say except for the BATTLESHIP comment. I think people are going to eat their words when the first trailer drops.
(No, I have no relationship to anyone involved in this movie)
Rundown, Friday Night Lights, Hancock, Kingdom…I thought they were all solid films, there’s no reason to believe Battleship will be any worse.
Battleship could be as good as Titanic – it still needs to earn back $300 million dollars plus marketing.
Feel better? What an incredibly mean and useless post.
No Jack Off I do not feel better. These people are ruining lives. They are ruining the business, or what is left of it. If my posts stands .001% chance of helping the truth reach Comcast and fixing the situation so that these inept people are replaced then yes, it was USEFUL.
Couldn’t agree more.
PS – I swear I am NOT Peter Cramer.
They should make a whole new franchise instead should they desire to shift the direction. A numerical number beside a movie title can be discouraging sometimes
Damn – how depressing that NO ONE here seems to be disappointed that, amid the chatter about franchises and box office and popularity and car action vs. heist action, no one has taken a moment to mention that these films – every last one in the series – are pieces of crap.
Crap that’s better than some other crap? I guess, maybe. Tough contest. But crap nonetheless, and no one seems to be the least bit disappointed, embarrassed or perhaps even aware of that.
For the otherwise unemployed, absolutely, I’m sure it’s a great pleasure and thrill to work on Fast & Furious, et al, and now Fast Five, and eventually, perhaps Speedy Six and Snappy Seven and Achin’ Eight. But for everyone involved, above or below the line, who has a choice or alternative, surely it would be preferable to work on something that isn’t crap, no?
Not only am I not interested in seeing this and upcoming iterations, I’m just as disinterested in knowing anyone looking forward to seeing any of them. Alas, some friend’s screening or other obligation may eventually have me watching, but I sure as hell won’t pay to see it, and admit to being such a snob that I have no respect for anyone who would.
I disagree, emphatically.
The original film was a well made movie that didn’t talk down to its audience and had a legitimately multicultural cast without any whiff of “tokenism” to it.
The first sequel was indeed pretty terrible, but you can’t say they didn’t try. The screenwriters were A-level and they got John Singleton (before he turned into a total hack) to direct. Again, it retained the legitimately multicultural aspects and even attempted to tell a new, though related story.
Part three, by far the series high point in my opinion, took things into an endearingly cartoonish direction and cast Sonny Chiba as the villain! It was a really well made and deliriously fun B-movie with an atypical leading man role and a good bit of meat for the character motivation, considering the genre.
Part Four was kind of boring in my opinion, but it featured some interesting action set-pieces and moved the characters forward instead of just repeating the same dynamics. Again, it featured an *actually* multicultural cast and had some real ambition when compared to most genre sequels.
You might not like this type of movie, but evaluating it within the rational constraints of the genre, it has far exceeding the bare minimum and occasionally grasped for something of legitimate quality.
I grew up watching these movies and I hotly anticipate the 5th, something I cannot say of almost any other sequel coming out in the next few years.
REALLY? Really? No respect for ANYONE who would see these movies? You understand the meaning of that comment correct? And how conversely, it means every thing you love is/should be loved by everyone.
Because I’m positive there’s some shit you like, I think is utter crap. But you would NEVER hear me utter the words, “if people like this, I have no respect for them.”
It’s disgusting, insulting, and I’m sorry flat out disappointing.
Also, If you don’t understand why people like these movies than this is NOT the right business for you.
No, you misquote me. I didn’t say I can’t respect anyone who would see it. I said I can’t respect anyone who would PAY to see it.
Hey, all of us have to see the occasional garbage, and then scramble think of compliments for the camera work, the special effects, the location, a particularly good actor – whatever.
But those who look forward to and then pay to see this kind of garbage? Yup. Idiots. Every last one. I’m surprised they leave the house and risk missing a replay of Jersey Shore.
And, yes, perhaps I AM in the wrong business. But over the years I’ve been fortunate enough to work on projects I was proud to be associated with for reasons beyond continued employment. Oh, sure, I picked badly a couple of times (Oh so badly!), and I saw a few others take left turns that embarrassed me long after the fact of my involvement. And there was one where I KNEW a certain actress had truly turned over a new lea with a new attitude, and she was absolutely going to KILL in the role, and I ended up being proved to be quite an idiot. Er, I mean, my confidence was misplaced.
Still, by and large, I haven’t had to work on anything where I knew in advance that there were some in my circle of friends, family and colleagues who I would not be encouraging to see it.
ok, comedymaven, so your taste sets the bar…i suppose we all feel that way to some extent, but your judgement of anyone willing to pay to see this movie is scary.
Your inability to have any respect for, or knowledge of, anyone who desires to see this movie isn’t just snobbery…Are you really saying you’ve drawn an absolute line in the sand, and if you cross the comedymaven FF line, you are unwilling to see any other aspect of such a person? i cant say im terrible sorry that you dont want to know me or that you have no respect for me. I think it’s nice that youve done well enough that youve had such creative and financial freedom to pick and choose and that while youve made misjudgements, yours are not so gross as the FF’ers and are beyond reproach.
You think you’re a snob, and you think that’s ok. I think youre probably just being a little flippant, and arrogant, and I also know that as a person whose psyched to see FF5, that doesn’t bother or interest you that I think so…probably you stopped reading when you realized a FF fan was writing, unless of course your computer screen is glossy enough you could catch your own reflection in the screen. You’re kind of a turd.
if you’re ‘psyched’ to see FF5 you are an idiot
i am psyched to see it…the rock going up against vin diesel in rio with fast cars and hot girls. it is what it is,and makes no bones about it and i like watching bad asses kick ass and drive fast…when i day dream, those are among the things i day dream about (in addition to various personal social and world issues as well), but an idiot? awww man…come on.
Thank God somebody finally said it! Thank you, Comedymaven. These films, ALL of them, are drivel for dimwits. Have you ever seen the people in line for these movies. Not the best and the brightest. The movies glorify a criminal subculture whose callous disregard for the safety of others has resulted in the real life deaths of not a few innocent people. Can you imagine the sort of person who is into that.
Not to mention the fact that the acting, writing, and direction are, to put it politely, rather on the low brow end of the spectrum. I have to ask the people who defend these movies if they really think that Vin Diesel, Paul Walker, Tyrese Gibson and every other non-actor in these films give anything approaching actual performances or that there is anything dramatically compelling in these films. Or do you simply never tire of seeing cars “goin’ real fast and a-crashin’ inta each othern”. You want to go see these movies? Fine, but stop trying to convince us that they are anything but trash.
The great heist movies from 15 years ago. Quick name three?
Ha, what a maroon.
Off the top of my head I’d say:
HEAT
DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE
DEAD PRESIDENTS
I didn’t check IMDb, but I think all of those are right about 15 years old.
Also, a bit more recent but: Set it Off, U-Turn, and Out of Sight.
Course, I also think they meant OF the last 15 years.
So, I’d say, with varying degrees of quality, but all interesting:
Oceans 11
Oceans 13
The Bank Job
The Italian Job
Heist
Spartan
Inception
Lock, Stock, And Two Smoking Barrels
Snatch
Small Time Crooks
Sexy Beast
Inside Man
Bad Santa
And those are just the ones I can remember in the middle of the night.
I kind of have the feeling like one poster said above that they are going for a brawny “Ocean’s 11″ franchise. This makes sense, and it is a good way to evolve the franchise. They have a group of fun actors in Fast Five. Why not watch them pull off some more heists? I do think they will get rid of the street racing element. But how many street racing movies can you really do? That got old in the second movie, but I think the cars will still be used in some elaborate chase sequences that have to do with the heists.
An article about the Fast and Furious francise with no mention of Neal Moritz? Are you serious? None of the movies would have or could have been made without him. They are his movies. The only reason Universal is even involved is that it owned the original title.
Great idea!
I constantly bemoan that studios fail to recognize the true strengths of their franchises — the memorable characters. How much better would Hangover Part II seem if they had followed the same route and simply taken the characters that audiences loved and put them in a whole new adventure?
Happy that studios are finally catching on. I hope this is the start of a new movement.
Worst place to do business in Hollywood. Unduly arrogant, can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard “that’s just the way we do things here” in response to some negotiating point.
Sounds more like a paint by numbers marketing plan than an actual movie.
How the f*** is this bold and provocative?
amen, sister/brother. this is about as far away from bold as you get. this is downright cowardly.
My first thought after watching a screening of FAST FIVE was “That kind of had an OCEAN’S ELEVEN feel to it.”
I wasn’t expecting much out of this film, but I was pleasantly surprised. Having seen all five, it was the most fun of the bunch. It definitely veers a bit towards the heist genre, but it doesn’t seem stale and/or overdone.
Check it out…and be sure to stay for the credits to catch the final scene.
Can’t wait for Fast Eleven! Soderberg won’t need the check but he’ll do it anyway.
Franchise? This is a TV series playing in the cinema, which is absurd. How can people think that corporate execs’ marketing plans equate to actual movies. Maybe the first was cinema, maybe the second, but after that, what are we doing going to the cinema for this? Watch it at home and leave the theater screen for something that actually qualifies as cinema.