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The Earth revolves off its axis when Michael Bay and James Cameron sit down together and talk 3D filmmaking. Actually, Cameron schools Bay:
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Where did they find a room big enough for their egos?
interesting marketing by Paramount… “This movie is James Cameron approved.” etc.
Two “masters” discussing their “craft.” What artists.
I know they are two of the most powerful men in Hollywood, but I have an immense dislike for them both. They are ego driven and make derivative movies for the unwashed masses. Yuck.
Smart move by Paramount, yes. I’m not the biggest 3D fan, but I must say I do see Transformers and Bay’s style translating really well into this format. His shots are perfect contenders for it, he uses depths like few others and the pace of the camera movements is just a perfect match for 3D. One of the rare movies I’ll be ready to pay extra bucks to see in 3D!
that’s awesome. how long have you been mr. bay’s assistant?
Smart move by Paramount to create a positive ‘buzz’ after the huge letdown from Transformers 2.
I was there and there was certainly no ego in the room (yeah really) just two guys talking about their craft. Afterwards, both were hanging out and talking tech with anyone who would listen and both seemed to be just two slightly nerdish guys. It was a shocker for me too.
If they can clean up the plot of TF3 to make it more like 1 as opposed to 2, with these visuals, it’s gonna do massive, massive business worldwide. Like the other commenter said, the medium and subject really mesh with Bay’s visual abilities. Dude can make a movie look unbelievable.
Criticize them all you want, these are two of only a handful of directors left who can draw kids & young adults away from their ipads, playstations, and home theaters and into the multiplex. Their films are event pictures because no one can technically touch them and to see that craftsmanship on screen compels folks like me to see their films projected on large screens rather than hand-held, portable devices that look and sound like shit. My ipad Netflix cue is full of artsy-fartsy films that I love for compelling story and witty dialog, but those films are not propping up this industry right now. Let’s agree as members of this industry struggling to remain relevant, that there’s room for both kinds of films and remember – All films should be judged based on whether or not they keep their promise. Avatar and Transformers are not competing with “Schindler’s List.”
End lecture.
The comment dismissive of Cameron above is patently ludicrous. You can acknowledge his talent and impact on the art without putting him on a pedestal.
T2 is one of the most amazing genre movies ever made – something that is lost on people that only use perspective on films released since and virtually every movie he’s directed establishes benchmarks. Between Titanic and Avatar it’s pretty easy to understand why other egoists would have problem with Cameron’s supposed ego. He backs it up with peerless filmmaking. What props up the bruised bluster?
Cameron didn’t school Bay at all. Unless he showed him and everyone how two faced he really is. Cameron once said 3D conversion shouldn’t be made. Then of course after that Titanic 3D was announced for 2012. Which will be converted to 3D and is only happening so they can grab some more money. Which Cameron loves to do but hates it when others do it.
Never heard Cameron say that. He has argued against studio driven rush-jobs with conversion. He’s always said if conversion is done properly, it should take well over a year.
It will definitely be interesting. Both Bay and Cameron criticize 3D conversion and yet Bay depended on it for I think 40 percent of his film and Cameron is converting Titanic. Most telling: Bay liked the Closeups of his actors better in conversion than with true 3D.
But I’m REALLY curious about Scorsese’s Hugo Cabret. He’s a story teller whose work I like who is working in 3D for the first time and it will be interesting to see if Paramount tries to put him and Cameron together in this same fashion.
Technically, they are geniuses. The issue seems to be what they DO with all that expertise. If you’re all about dazzling the masses and making money – which ain’t a crime – then, bravo to the both of them. I think many would like to see them dig a little deeper and actually make something that isn’t so transparently shallow while they’re at it, since they’ve got the clout to do so.
If you literally mean that the two are geniuses of the technical aspects of film, sure. Neither could craft an original or quality story for all the money in the world.
I love how they use the Terminator score over clips of Transformers 3. I don’t think that Bay and 3D is really good for the brain. His movies are painful in 2D. Can anyone imagine a 3D Armageddon? I think my brain would pop.
With that said, Transformers 3 actually looks kind of cool.
Is anyone else seeing that weird freeze-frame on Cameron at the end of the video?
And does anyone else find it tedious to try to take in the 800 things on screen in a Michael Bay shot?
Anybody who goes to see a Transformers movie for anything other than seeing a very pretty movie about large robots beating the ever-loving energon out of each other is sending their money to the wrong movie. Bay delivers much more than many give him credit for, but still, wake up to what movie you’re seeing.
But then again, maybe I just want a movie that’s so loud and obnoxious that I can’t hear that baby in our row crying–you know the one with the mother that just OMG HAD TO see Eclipse on opening weekend and thought that maybe “just this once” she could get away with bringing the baby. Guess what, lady, you can’t.
You just can’t.
Comparing these men as two creative genius talking movies, is totally wrong.
There is an ocean between Cameron and Michael Bay. Cameron makes movies with a vision, with acting, with things we’ve never seen before. Bay makes movies where stuff gets blown up for 90 minutes.
I too was in the audience the other night, and the biggest surprise for me was Bay’s seeming ambivalence re: shooting in 3D. Cameron seems to have expected Bay to deliver an enthusiastic, no-strings-attached endorsement of the medium, but instead Bay kept dwelling on its limitations. I was seated pretty close, and Cameron’s irritation was obvious. It was actually kind of amusing; toward the end of the talk it was all they could do to make eye contact.
“I actually think that all films benefit from 3D in varying degrees”
Yes, I was just thinking how much better “Jumping the Broom” could’ve been had it been shot in 3D.
I’m not going to pretend Michael Bay and James Cameron are on the same level here.
Is there anywhere left that Cameron has NOT sat down on a chair on a stage to talk about what he thinks and does, and will do and likes to do and hopes to do, and watched someone else do?
I guess I haven’t caught him on a Tuesday night on the main stage at “Flapper’s” comedy club in Burbank. But otherwise he’s becoming like those “sprayer” folks at Macy’s around Christmas who keep asking you to sample their scent. I was in Ralph’s the other day, and there he was in produce explaining why pineapple is perfect for 3-D, but apples are sooooo 20th century, and he’s working on a new process that seems to bring leafy greens to life on the screen, but with “life in their eyes, and terrific acting talent that is only enhanced by the technology.”
Does anyone know if the entire talk is available online? I’ve googled around but couldn’t find it.
Thanks.
Cameron and Bay are the Cecil B. DeMille and Irwin Allen of the modern age.