
Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark finally opened on Broadway on Tuesday night. There was a star-studded crowd that included Bill Clinton, a 10-minute standing ovation, and even deposed director Julie Taymor got up to take a bow. And, thank goodness, no actors fell from the rafters. A press release from the show’s reps reports that “critics and audiences cheer[ed] the opening,” and offered a few effusive blurbs from USA Today, MTV and NY1 News. Well, first of all, they weren’t reading the reviews I saw. In The New York Times (generally the review that helps a show fly or die), Ben Brantley compared its earlier incarnation to now as an “ascent from jaw-dropping badness to mere mediocrity,” but that isn’t a rave since he likened that earlier version to “watching the Hindenburg crash and burn.” The Wall Street Journal called the book “flabby and witless” and, as for the plot, “everything that happens is utterly familiar and utterly predictable.” To sum up, the WSJ offers that “$70 million and nearly nine years of effort, all squandered on a damp squib. … Never in the history of Broadway has so much been spent to so little effect.” The other Gotham papers basically said it was better than it was when Taymor was calling the shots, but essentially that its edge (not to be confused with U2′s The Edge) had been varnished away, leaving blandness and U2 songs that aren’t the catchiest that Bono and The Edge ever came up with.
I wasn’t much of a fan of the Sam Raimi-directed Spider-Man movies, and thought them bland compared to Bryan Singer’s X-Men films or Chris Nolan’s Batman films. And still, Spider-Man was a billion-dollar franchise for Sony Pictures and is being rebooted in 3D.
So why can’t Spider-Man: Turn Off The Dark live with godawful reviews we all expected and thrive with the tourist crowd? My sources tell me that the reason is the operating costs are just too stratospheric. The budget, I’m told, is already in the $80 million range, and the economics just won’t add up. It’ll last a year, maybe, but it will be hard-pressed to escape what many feel will be its inevitable place in history: Broadway’s biggest-ever debacle.


The real question is, can it tour? Thus far, it has been playing to high-capacity, and high ticket price crowds, but you’re right, it will never recoup on Broadway. However, Broadway shows rarely do — they make their money on tour, or if they are able to book long Las Vegas engagements. It is analogous to the movie business, where movies lose money in their theatrical release, but that gives them the awareness and value to make some money downstream. Spider-Man’s problem is that it is such a technically difficult show, it will be difficult to mount an effective tour. I think Las Vegas or some other destination engagement will be its only hope.
Good post…nice to see someone who clearly knows what they are talking about. My guess is it was always intended as a Broadway ‘loss leader’ with the hope of turning it into a ‘Starlight Express’ type of theatrical event that can tour as the Cirque shows do (i.e., tents, large arenas). Also, it can eventually ‘sit down’ in Vegas or another similar city for a long run. Unlike Broadway, these types of ‘event shows’ can be extremely profitable in the long term…
The problem is when you need every show to sell out at premium pricing for a few years in order to hit “break even”, not counting ongoing cost for actors, stage and sets, you can never get ahead of the pendulum. “Spiderman” kept being marketed as the breakout musical blah blah blah.. well, apparently that happened, down the street for slightly less then $10M all in, at “Book of Mormon”, and that thing -will- run for quite some time, because on a week to week basis, it’s profitable.
It’s going to be very hard to see Spiderman get to a week-to-week profitability against it’s debtload.. I don’t know if it has even a chance of earning a profit percentage to catch the interest on it’s financed debt.
It’s DOA. The shameless plug at the Tony was bad enough. Turn off this musical already! The Rosie O’Donnell vanity project ‘Taboo’ held the dubious debacle distinction until now. This show belongs under a Big Tent, not a theater stage. Julie Taymor, Bono and U2 will wear this scar forever. Who ever thought artistic failure would ever be associated with them?!
Um…I loved “Taboo,” Boy George was amazing and the Leigh Bowery backstory was delicious. I laughed, I cried, I met Rosie in the vestibule afterward. Don’t hate!
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“Artistic”?
Who’s currently known as Broadway’s biggest flop ever?
Kelsey Grammer’s Macbeth?
Whatever the biggest flop is it can’t be a play, it’s got to be a musical.
“Carrie” and “Frankenstein” were both expensive flops, as was “Dance of the Vampires”. “Merrily We Roll Along” in 1981 also stiffed, as did “Lennon” and “Glory Days”
You forgot Paul Simon’s “Capeman”
Capeman, however, was a much cheaper production ($11M all costs at the end), spawned 2 albums that did sell, and recouped it’s money thanks to song rights. Do I imagine any song from Spider Man being covered and re-released on other people’s albums?
Capeman is a good example of how to flop and still not lose tons of money; it left behind a song library that’s been released in 3 different formats, and while a complete flop in it’s 68 show run, very trimmed down versions (90 minutes from it’s crazy 3 hour, 20 minute runtime) have played.
The problem with Spiderman is that it is so defined by stagecraft and effect pieces that it will be almost impossible to tour.
Take for example something like “Book of Mormon”.. there are no huge elaborate set pieces, and what there are can be changed easily. So, it -could- tour with ease.
Find me anywhere in the country that wants to take big risks on all these wire-work fights and stage sets..
There are no songs in Spider-Man. Just these tuneless dirges.
Moose Murders.
Spider-Man will tour – they will just turn the acrobatics into “ballet” moves, perhaps down the aisles. No way they will let people drop from the ceilings at venues around the country.
And high schools are salivating at the prospect of being able to perform versions of the U2-penned songs. So they will make money from residuals, but it will take eons to approach break-even.
I can’t help but wonder if this musical really is as bad as everyone says it is, or has it just become “the thing” to hate it?
I saw it just before it closed down for the latest retrofit in April. The comments on the book are right on; the plot’ll keep no one hanging on edge. But I enjoyed most of the music, the stars are engaging and the special effects–wow! Utterly amazing. The audience was clearly into it all the way, as was I. I thought of it as the Broadway version of a good, special-effects-laden, summer movie. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Bottom line is…would you NOW invest in the show because you believe it will return a profit….
I don’t think so no matter how many theater goers plunk down serious ducats to see Spiderman. And, many of these people just want to see what all the ‘noise’ is about.
I was there last night. So much better than when I saw it in january! Better second act. Three to four songs really very good. Crowd pleasing for sure but won’t win any acting awards. Good fun. Not every show has to club us with understory. Does anyone remember a song from best musical spring awakening other than energetic young actors. No. Bono and the Edge give us an entertaining romp.
Yeah Bitch of Living is unforgettable. Rise Above I couldn’t even hum.
Spiderman would have been better and sexier with Bob Fosse-like choreography. The stunts are a waste of money. Could have been a slam dunk with the right approach.
Send it to Vegas. Only there will it find a home amongst all the other gaudy batshit insane side-show attractions.
For me it held some fascination until I watched the Tonys. The number from the musical — which wasn’t even up for an award this last season (and frankly, might never be…) — stopped the Tonys dead. The song was boring. Coming after The Book Of Mormon, which was beautifully performed, funny and filled with life, the love song from Spiderman was forgetable and listless. I kept thinking, “This is the best they got???”
Somethings are better left off the stage.
I saw this new version, but not the previous one. The stunts and flying sequences in the show are actually pretty awesome. The script is terrible and the songs are forgettable (with the exception of three). The script is just so corny and bad that the better elements just hover in the middle of crap. But, honestly, the audience I saw it with seemed to love the show. They totally bought in to the flying theatrics (as did I, while they were happening) and they seemed to walk out of the theater liking it.
this is one of the few things Americans are uniquely good at… rooting for stuff to fail
With Spiderman brining in over $1 million a week, not including all the merchandise they are selling and media partnerships (like the one they have with SyFy) they might be able to make money if it lasts a few years. Everyone thought Universal was crazy when they backed Wicked and it made back its huge budget in 3 years. Granted Spiderman’s budget is over 2 times as big but it is also playing a theater where they can make $1.9 million a week from tickets alone.
People also forget Sony Pictures & Marvel (Disney) are both producers of the show as well. It’s doubtful Sony will let the musical close down before the news Spiderman movie comes out and it’s also doubtful that they aren’t planning a movie version as well. Sony wouldn’t have gotten involved if they didn’t plan on using it for their movie business in some way.
Unsure about Sony Pictures but the musical has been in the works long before Disney ever bought Marvel. The only thing that connects them to the musical is brand. Frankly, Disney would have been much better musical producers than whoever was producing this. When Taymor did The Lion King, she had a short leash with the Disney people in making sure she did not go off the reservation and they have done the same with everybody involved in their other musicals.
Somehow, I find it hard to beleive that Sony will ever make a film musical of Spider-Man.
I highly doubt high schools are salivating at the prospect. U2 is not that big a deal and to try to perform the musical anywhere but a high tech theater isnt really feasible. No one wants to see ballet moves.
No touring prospects- Young Frankenstein and Shrek, two other expensive and mostly critically panned flops had to really change a lot of the dynamics to their shows to not be as costly and frankly, feasible enough to tour across the country.
I know people bring up Carrie a lot but really, the music and score had some highlights (google the song ‘Eve Was Weak’ to hear Betty Buckley sing her heart out) and the book was very faithful that got Stephen King himself to still appreciate it. The direction was supposedly terrible and some of the effects were pretty impossible to do what the direction demanded.
Spiderman: Turn Off the Dark has been in works for years, not even included the delays, the forced safety stoppages, etc. This is closer to Taymor’s Heaven’s Gate than any musical that has come along. Originally she persuaded Evan Rachel Wood, Jim Sturgess, and Alan Cumming to play Mary Jane Watson, Spiderman, and Green Goblin. Sturgess passed immediately, ERW and Cumming stayed attached to the project for a while but got bored and dodged to get steady paychecks on TV. Taymor and Bono had no real focus for what they were doing. Stan Lee clearly put up the trademark rights thinking he had a simple moneymaker which was anything but. Taymor took a simplistic story like Spiderman and bastardized it.
If people are complaining about the book now for being too formulaic and corny, at least it makes a bit of sense even if its avant-garde Cirque de Soleil production values make it look uneven. Taymor created a whole new character called Arachne who took over Act 2 and managed to overlook Peter Parker’s reason for becoming a superhero by giving Uncle Ben maybe two lines of dialogue, and being a pretty mean to Peter, and gets killed off-stage. What? Mary Jane Watson also had little stage time before the sweeping changes to the book and the show actually did not have an ending (remember that stuntman’s near-death fall? that was the initial final part of the musical with him catching Mary Jane and lights off!).
People are only buying tickets with the most gallows ideas in mind on one hand and legitimate curiosity on the other hand.
My thought about “Spiderman” on Broadway: why not move it directly to a venue in Las Vegas? This seems to be the town for lavishly gaudy spectacles like Cirque Du Soliele shows or some such acrobatic aerialism. Adding Bono & The Edge to the mix is stronger than creating a show around Elvis or the Beatles, don’t you think?
If you want to see a great show with amazing special effects go to see Wicked! It has a great plot, special effects and at least in the London version some of the best singers/actor i have ever seen.
P.S. although i think this is bad give it a rest with the criticism audiences are loving it.