EXCLUSIVE: There has been no internal announcement at WME about this. And the feeding frenzy has already started, with manager David Lonner’s phone ringing off the hook with calls from every major agency within minutes of Deadline first scooping the news. Because we’ve learned that Super 8 director JJ Abrams is taking a sabbatical from WME and will be repped by his former William Morris agent-turned-manager David Lonner as well as his longtime Jackoway Tyerman attorney Alan Wertheimer. Also advising JJ is John Fogelman,
who also was on Team Abrams at William Morris and then repped him at WME when Lonner was exited before the merger. Fogelman has since left WME to start his own venture. Abrams feels his primary reps are gone, and he wants to take a breather before deciding who’ll make his deals in the future. Abrams is telling friends that when Lonner left WMA, he still had Fogelman. But when Fogelman left the merged WME, he was without a dedicated agent. So he’s now decided to “just take a beat” to figure out where he should be agency-wise. “He may very well end up at WME. But it is irresponsible to just assume that is the way to go simply because his agent(s) once worked there,” one insider emailed us just now. “He likes those guys. But he needs to consider everything.” Meanwhile, writer-director-producer Abrams and his reps don’t want this move to distract him. “JJ’s exclusive focus has been and continues to be on his movie. Reminder: he has long-term deals at Paramount and Warners.”
Because of those giant deals, Abrams and his Bad Robot banner have been a huge piece of business for WME ever since Endeavor merged with William Morris and took over commissioning his business. So WME will collect fees from Abrams’ biz for some time to come. But every agency in Hollywood will now be salivating to sign JJ, especially CAA which over the years has made try after try to convince him to come on board. Here’s why: beyond the major movies Abrams directs — his Super 8 just opened last weekend — Bad Robot is one of Hollywood’s most prolific producers of films and TV series. Besides the Star Trek and Mission Impossible rebooted franchises for Paramount, and the expectation that JJ will direct the Star Trek sequel, Abrams just for the 2011-2012 TV development season has two new shows on the air next fall: the Warner Bros/Abrams-produced Person Of Interest (CBS) and Alcatraz (Fox), both dramas stirring up considerable international interest recently.
In fact, Deadline TV Editor Nellie Andreeva declared Abrams the “comeback” kid of pilot season, writing how after his high-profile NBC drama Undercovers went bust last fall, some questioned whether the networks will continue to bet on him. But bet they did this upfront, with both pilots he produced, CBS’ Person of Interest and Fox’s Alcatraz, going to series. Person of Interest instantly became one of the most anticipated new fall series when CBS made it its new Thursday 9 PM anchor. The network also said it was their best-testing drama pilot ever. And over at Fox, Alcatraz prevailed over several high-profile pilots to land one of only 2 drama series spots. Then, as icing on the cake, Abrams’ modestly rated but well-liked Fox sci-fi series Fringe got a renewal for next season, bringing the producer’s series for next season to 3. Ka-ching!
This sabbatical caps a lot of changes in Abrams’ rep situation over the past couple of years. Lonner was Abrams’ longtime agent at WMA, but when that agency and Endeavor joined forces, Lonner formed Oasis Media Group because he was pushed out by Ari Emanuel. That’s because Lonner had been an early Endeavor partner who left with Steve Rabineau in a philosophical disagreement with Ari. Lonner shared Abrams at WMA with John Fogelman, who did transition into the new agency. But Fogelman, too, found himself on the outs and has since left WME to strike out on his own and is helping steer Abrams through this interim agency period. If Abrams doesn’t come back into the WME fold, it’s a perception and revenue nightmare for the agency which because of its post-takeover size and influence should have had the bench-strength to put another high-profile tenpercenter with JJ and keep him. On the other hand, when both Abrams’ agents can’t make it work with the new guys, it’s gotta send a not-so-subtle message. Looks like Lonner and Fogelman may be getting the last laugh on Ari.
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mmm, so karma is finally catching up with Ari huh? Hey Ari, guess what?–there will be plenty more of this to come in the future big boy…
Isn’t this getting old already? A client wants to go to CAA so s/he takes a “hiatus” from WME a month or two then announces s/he is going to CAA. WME saves some face, CAA doesn’t look like they’re poaching…. Shall we go through the list of 20 clients in the past few years that have done this?
Off the top of my head…clients that recently and publicly left their agency (usually WME) then waited a month or two before signing with CAA.
Mark Ruffalo
Shia Labeouf
Stephen Gaghan
Jason Bateman (UTA, last year)
Adding more to WME loss tally:
Justin Marks
Brendan Fraser
Stephen Sommers
James Franco
Joe Manganiello
Logan Lerman
Joe Carnahan
John Cusack
Lee Daniels
Ryan Seacrest
Kelly Ripa
Gordon Ramsey
Vanessa Hudgens
JJ is a truly nice guy….humble and happy with what he is doing….
Sabbatical? my ass, i was FIRED!
Ari didn’t rep JJ, so actually you’re wrong
That was the problem cuz… twas’ AIRY
Ari is the head of WME. JJ took a sabbatical from WME. are you following….?
Yes, please provide the “list.”
Let’s keep it real because i’m keeping it real.
Yes please provide that list. Shia and?
Rick Rosen is spending to much time in Santa Barbara and all of JJ’s features agents have left or been fired. Ari never had a relationship with this guy or any client for that matter except for Peter Berg, his college roommate. Good for JJ. David Lonner and Alan Wertheimer can handle it. He does not need an agent or an agency.
wasn’t pete his jr college roommate. i had read they want to a 2 year college… either way, they are both amazing and successful leaders in what they do.
Alan W. is one of the BEST if not THE best attorney in Hollywood. Smart, nice, kind and never seemed to lose his cool. Sounds like a great fit for JJ.
As a complete outsider to the Hollywood bubble what is the main difference between Agent and Manager?
Manager = Good guy in the room; tries to make everything nice and make it happen.
Agent = Bad guy in the room; tries to close the deal with the best situation for their client.
Manager works with client regularly, helps shaping their career and choices they make.
Agent, takes there 10% and goes onto the next new or used car to get another 10%, generally, there are a few exceptions.
Overall they together represent a 20% cut in their clients paycheck to handle their business.
You can’t get your agent on the phone, whereas you can’t get your manager off the phone.
Or, less flippantly: agent is worried about the job, manager is worried about the career.
They’re both people you pay to look at your watch and tell you what time it is.
Your manager keeps telling you that you need a better watch.
Your agent keeps showing you watches to choose from.
JJ needs to head over to APA.
LOL – yeah right. APA’s lit department is a joke. Funny.
truly ignorant posts.
Why bring on an agency? CAA? Abrams can work with anybody he wants, he’s got fat studios deals, he is indeed a force in TV and he’s still getting choice director projects. Why bother going to an agency when he’s got Lonner – who can frankly “agent” him, and Fogelman – oops for WME…
WME has a package on every show Bad Robot produces under its current Warner Brothers deal. This will not effect WME’s bottom line much, at all. This is really about JJ’s movie career…..Lonner will find him those jobs and negotiate those deals. As for television, WME will continue to serve all of Bad Robot’s pilots and series under the Warner Bros. deal, because they will continue to be paid package fees for anything that comes out of the shingle.
Please get your facts straight! The Warner Brothers deal expires in a few months. Game over, Ari. Karma always bites back.
JJ does not need an agent at this point. he doesn’t need a manager. a lawyer would be just fine at 5%. all calls are incoming. Offers.
Thank you.
Yes, but the reason to have an agency if you’re someone like JJ Abrams/Bad Robot (or Spielberg, who took Dreamworks TV to WME last year) is that you get a huge agency’s A+ projects fed to you. That’s all the talent, intellectual property (books, theatre scripts, etc.), that the agency will package with your production company…and you don’t end up paying ANY commission as the studio will pay the agency their package. Sure @XYZ, JJ can work with whomever he’d like, but if he goes without an agency, he won’t get anybody’s best projects.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but why does JJ need outside properties, unless he steals them, he can clearly develop ideas on his own.
When has he ever needed “anybody’s best projects”? Hasn’t he produced everything he’s worked on up to this point?
he got the Person of Interest pilot from WME, and their new client Jonah Nolan.
yes- he will get all the best projects, regardless of who reps him.
c.f. Leo DiCaprio and James Cameron
Obviously you are not familiar with the industry. Since JJ has overall deals at WB and Paramount and is a source of jobs for writers and other talent, he just doesn’t need an agency.
Josh Fogelman is cool.
John Fogelman is not cool enough for you to remember his name.
Finally a big name is saying to the town what most people already know–most agents (esp WME) don’t do shit and the Managers do most of the heavy lifting. Good for JJ, and all clients out there should take heed.
Managers do most of the heavy lifting? Most managers are managers because they couldn’t hack it as agents. Only a handful of managers add any value at all, and they’re all at companies that function as agencies (Untitled, 360, BEP).
Actually, most managers are managers because they failed the sociopath section of the agent trainee exam.
You’re crazy. There are like 5 or 6 managers in this town that actually add any value. David Lonner happens to be one of them though, and John Fogelman still scares the crap out of me.
Lonner is a stand-up guy. JJ is a nice, approachable, gregarious gentleman. It makes sense that these two would work together again. Regardless of whether JJ needs an agent or manager at this point in his career, having Lonner as a business confidant is a great coup.
Lonner has rep’d him his entire career at CAA, Endeavor, William Morris and when he moved from being an agent to becoming a manager.
lonner… that guy’s still around. what a sad business entertainment is. lonner. haha.
Hey dave, do you even know David Lonner? Man are you off the mark. Class act 100%.
Lonner’s phone sheet just got a whole lot bigger.
Endeavor partners have never been able to figure out mp lit. It was the joke of the place back when Strickler was running it and taking all of his “proteges” on vacation with him, and apparently now it still isn’t much better.
No one needs an agent if you have a good manager and a good attorney. And the big agencies want to manage brands not talent. JJ should stay away and donate the 10% savings to charity
What nobody here knows is that Abrams’ next film project is going to blow up – as in BLOW…UP. It’s easily the most astonishing, thrilling screenplay I’ve read in 30 years. Myself, and about 8 other people have read it – and I can tell you right here and right now – it’s going to put Abrams in the same category as Lucas, Spielberg, early Cameron and early Ridley Scott. If I told you what it was about, they’d find me at the bottom of the Pacific ocean – and I know nobody here knows who I am – but if Abrams directs this thing, which is currently untitled, and he gets even half of what’s on the page onto the screen, it’s going to make more money than “Avatar”. All I can tell everyone here is to imagine the greatest episode of “The Twilight Zone” that Rod Serling ever wrote – that you’ve never seen – now – imagine something even better than that – and imagine that it’s science fiction – and that it has 4 of the greatest action set-pieces written in the history of the movies, one of the best love stories ever set to the page, and that it has an ending that will keep people glued to their chairs through the entire end credits before they can pick their jaws up off the floor and stand up again. You heard it here first – Abrams’ next movie – if he can make this script I’m looking at right now – is going to blow the box office apart.
Is that the Untitled project that was sold as a pitch by Simon Kinberg and Aline Brosh McKenna?
Does anyone know what John Fogelman’s new venture is?
Smart move for Abrams. WME is the worst. Their internal politics and needs come way before their clients. I have many friends who have left or are leaving.
“Irresponsible”? This word doesn’t mean what this person thinks it means.
I have to ask, why would someone need an agent when they develop and produce their own material?
So Super 8 underwhelms at the box office and now Abrams is jumping ship. Not surprising. It’s only a matter of time that he tries to save face and officially signs on to the Star Trek sequel.
THE REVENGE OF LONNER!!!!!!
Foggy clearly leaked this story to the press. He wants to go start a studio on the back of JJ. Wants to raise money using his name and try to cash out.
But Foggy is merely an agent. Not a financial whiz. Talks a big game. Bizarre and intense, and seems to have JJ wrapped around his finger.
But maybe this is good for David Lonner. One of the menschy guys. If JJ were smart, he’d install Lonner as the heart and soul of his operation. All of the biggest guys need an animal, and JJ has his lawyers for that, and then they need someone who can be soft and loving. THat’s lonner.
as for WME (or CAA, or UTA, or ICM, or whoever), this guy doesnt need an agent for directing. But if you want to build a real production company of the size and scale of Bad Robot, it helps to have one. Ask Spielberg. Ask Ron Howard. Ask Bruckheimer. etc. In tv, the biggest players have agents. In features, sure, there is Jackson and Cameron and Leo, but they get incoming calls.
Producing takes source material. Books, pilot writers, pitches, etc. Agents play a role.
It seems WME reps the showrunners of all the badrobot shows. CAA reps Cruise, who stars in his movie franchise. and the writers of his movies are spread out at all the agencies.
If i were richard lovette, i’d offer to rep him for free to make the statement that he’s there at CAA.
if JJ were smart, he’d use an agency for what they are best at — keeping his TV co afloat while he’s off directing movies. THat’s probably WME from what i read on this site.
You can have all the advisors in the world. If you dont have a steady stream of material, that advice will fall flat.
Will be fun to watch.