Deadline Comic-Con film correspondent Luke Y Thompson files:
The new Spider-Man villain Lizard was revealed tonight. There’s no official image: the footage was a Comic-Con exclusive and not to be photographed. (Deadline asked Sony for an image to use here. They declined.) Rhys Ifans plays him. This was the big new reveal. It looks really similar to Jim Lee’s drawings of Batman villain Killer Croc. Imagine a CG version for Lizard. Very close. Yes, ironic that a Bat-villain appears to be the basis for a
Spider-Man villain’s look. (Image of the Croc shown left). We were shown the same teaser trailer that leaked online, but now it’s in 3-D. The web-swinging POV shots are vertigo-inducing. Folks sensitive to thrill rides or heights may have issues with parts of this movie.
After the trailer runs, a “fan” in a Spider-Man costume comes out to the audience microphone to ask a question. It’s not question time yet, but this fan insists. In a very familiar voice. Mask comes off, and it’s Andrew Garfield, who proceeds to read a heartfelt speech he wrote about how much Spider-Man means to him. “This is my first Comic-Con, and this is definitely the coolest moment in my life.”
Panel includes Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach (who basically say nothing the whole time), director Marc Webb, Emma Stone (a redhead again), and
of course Garfield who says he approached the character like a modern myth. “It’s just another chapter in a long history.” Stone affirms, “Absolutely. Yes.” When they were shooting scenes without dialogue, Webb would play music on set. Webb on his take: There are “ a wealth of things in the Spider-Man canon that haven’t been explored cinematically.” The Gwen Stacy saga among them. “We just finished shooting – Avi still smells like craft services.”
Time for a new clip. It’s partially unfinished, in 2D.
Peter Parker is in high school, getting hit in the head with a ball, tardy for class, reprimanded for riding a skateboard. He gets punched by a bully who is most likely Flash Thompson. Then he turns the tables and attacks the guy. Soon he’s in the principal’s office with Uncle Ben (Martin Sheen), who lectures Peter about “humiliating” another boy. Points out that if it’s payback it ought to feel good, but it doesn’t, does it?
Gwen Stacy (Stone) moves into frame in the background. Ben asks if that’s the girl on Peter’s computer, then loudly says to her, “He’s got
you on his computer! I’m his probation officer.” Then he leaves.
Awkward moment between Peter and Gwen. “We could…or we could…”
“Yeah. Either one.” They like each other.
Cut to new scene. Peter finds his dad’s old work briefcase. Puts on the old glasses in there. Sees a badge for the job at Oscorp (the company run by Norman Osborne, who was the Green Goblin in the Raimi films). Then…a secret file. Dad had secrets.
Montage of Peter waking up not knowing his own strength, presumably after the spider-bite. Smashing his alarm clock, over-squeezing
toothpaste, breaking the sink faucets.
Then he’s building the web-shooters. Comically misfiring them.
New scene: he’s hiding in the back seat of a car in full Spidey costume as a car thief tries to jack it. He chides the guy for looking so obviously like a car thief. They get out of the car, and Spider-man acts mock-terrified at the guy’s knife. Makes fun of him while shooting webs at him,
pinning him to the wall.
Voice-over of Uncle Ben says that helping the helpless is “not choice, responsibility.”
A crashed vehicle has suspicious clawmarks on it. News reports talk about an “incident,” and says one man was identified at the scene. Implied that Spider-Man is being framed for something.
Denis Leary as Gwen’s cop father is interesting. He issues a warrant for Spider-Man’s arrest.
A shot of injured Parker in maskless suit pleading upward. “Dr. Connors! This is not you!” Obviously looking at The Lizard, the mutant form of Dr. Curt Connors (Rhys Ifans), but we don’t see it.
This clip ends.
He has one more clip: The Lizard revealed.
This is in 3-D, but not totally finished FX. Dr. Connors is addressing a group of students about his missing arm and how he intends to “cure” it. Peter brings up cross-species cellular manipulation, and Connors is impressed. Still, he leaves the room and lets Gwen take charge (she must be his assistant?)
Connors in his lab experiments on himself. His arm does grow back, but scaly.
Then we cut to two girls in a bathroom stall discussing boyfriends. The toilet drains of all water and starts to shake, then the floor caves in.
Up comes The Lizard. And he’s huge. Even though the Spider-villain came first, this CG Lizard looks most like Batman foe Killer Croc, as drawn by artist Jim Lee – who admittedly made Croc look a bit more lizard-like.


Gonna skip this “twilighted” version of Spidey. Nothng has impressed me so far with the teaser, the photos, and now this.
Yes because thats why they make movies, to impress you and only you. lol
Well, they were hoping to impress somebody and so far they seem to be failing. Pull your head out of the sand and take a look around you. This movie is in trouble.
Stop being a smartass. The OP was just expressing an opinion.
Err… the Lizard existed for about 20 years before Jim Lee was even born, so I don’t think they’re cribbing from Jim Lee’s Killer Kroc drawings.
Then you need to get your vision checked dude, because you are near blind. Twilight is exactly the connection the marketing wants you to make.
According to the fine folk at Wikipedia:
First appearance Killer Croc Feb 1983.
First appearance The Lizard Nov 1963.
Please explain how this is the “twilighted” version of Spider-Man. I don’t see a single detail about this film that makes me think Twilight.
Somehow people are crediting Twilight for teen angst.
THANK YOU!! I am so sick of these feeble minded internet geeks who who see one thing and that becomes the measure of how they see everything! Spiderman has always been about angst and the struggle of being a “regular” person with super powers. And last I checked, the story of Peter Parker existed long before Twilight was ever written!
Dark Knight Rises will really bury this film.
I really like the approach and think the teaser works, but they have to work on those effects. The effects don’t deliver, especially with what we’ve seen so far this summer.
Honestly, I’ve always been disappointed in the Spider-Man effects. I can’t watch the Raimi ones anymore — they just look like bad CGI. I’m hopeful they’ll get it right in this one — and I do think there’s an improvement — but there is still work to be done for sure.
I’ll take good acting and a plot over FX any day.
I do too, as long as the FX’s aren’t so bad they’re distracting, which is what they’ve delivered so far. That clip feels like you’re going from a live action film to a submersive video game. The FX’s should be seamless, and all I’m getting right now is motion sickness.
Considering how they barely finished shooting and the film won’t be released till next year, they have a lot of time to work on that.
Um…why is a cop issuing an arrest warrant? Those are issued by the court – granted, frequently at the request of cops, but still. Either a cop arrests you on the spot for something you are doing right now, or s/he has to petition the court for an arrest warrant.
Getting ready for the Bar on Tuesday?
He’s just pointing out how sloppy this movie is.
Yes, Happy Hour starts at 5
Also, I don’t get why they’re going back to square 1. The Raimi films did that just fine. They don’t need to start over, they need to continue the story. They can tweek it. Doing a remake of a great movie that is only 9 years old is a waste of money.
They hype may save this from a complete tank, but this will not reboot the franchise.
I have to agree, the spidy movies smashed box office records up one wall and another. If this movie is successful and it spawns sequels will see another reboot next year?
I don’t know why people keep acting like they are remaking the Raimi version of Spider-Man. Two of the three main characters from the Raimi films aren’t even in the new movie. This is going to be a different take on the story. In my opinion, it would have been disastrous if Sony continued this in any other way than with a reboot. I think people should wait for at least a full trailer before jumping the gun and saying they are disappointed.
I think you the exact type of idiot the studios have in mind when they spend hundreds of millions of dollars to ‘relaunch’ a franchise so soon. You are the weakest link, and unfortunately, the rest of the movie going public must suffer with ‘relaunches’ of Planet of the Apes, Superman, Spiderman, etc., not to mention Pirates of the Caribbean 5, Iron Man 3, Kung Fu Panda 3, and countless other worthless remakes and sequels.
And the really unfortunate thing, is that a fraction of the hundreds of millions of dollars imo wasted on these ‘relaunches’ could be directed to something ‘original’ and quite possibly entertaining.
Thanks!
Firstly – who the hell are you to say this guy was an idiot just because he expressed a view.
Secondly – believe it or not there are other movies that you can go and watch in other cinemas at the same time this one will be showing. SHOCKED RIGHT?????
You have an opinion, fair enough. That doesn’t give you the right to put down someone else when they are expressing theirs. Hey, here’s a thought. Do you think there are any kids out there who maybe liked any of the terrible “re-launches” that were made. Should we stop them watching them. Thomas crown affair? Terrible re-make as well or does that pass. Enjoy movies and have you’re opinion but keep closed minded views of others to yourself. The Departed? Terrible as well right? 4 oscars….what are they doing to us!!!
We are jumping the gun now to let the jackasses at Sony know that we do not listen to their lies, and they have lied all the time about this film.
They said Batman couldn’t be resurrected after the train wreck that was ‘Batman & Robin’. Spiderman 3 was every bit as much a train wreck and I wouldn’t dismiss Marc Webb’s reboot offhand. I think that if Spiderman can survive such a god-awful treatment that was Spidey 3 then this reboot has a good shot at being very profitable for Sony…they just have to look to WB for evidence of that. By the way, Killer Croc is a DC knockoff of the Lizard.
SPIDER-MAN 3, while disappointing, was nowhere near as bad as BATMAN & ROBIN. Not only BATMAN & ROBIN bad, but it bombed at the box office; the same can’t be said for SPIDER-MAN 3.
While I thought SPIDER-MAN 3 had problems, I never felt it necessitated a total redo of the entire series. The back story of Peter’s parents could have been worked into the existing Raimi/McGuire Spider-Man universe without having to reboot the entire series, even if many of principal cast members had to be replaced.
And though I’m not sure THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN looks Twilightized, it certainly is giving off vibes of Peter Parker being a loner, a creep, anti-social, wearing his hoodie with his face buried in his desk work…none of the traits that I can remember any of the Peter Parker incarnations I grew up with.
This trailer elicited no response from the crowd I was with to see CAPTAIN AMERICA. Stone cold silence. It’s simply too early to be redoing this entire series from scratch.
Spiderman 3 was a train wreck?
You mean… like… a real train wreck that everybody knew was going to happen so they all bought tickets to see it and it made soo much more friggin’ money than the other two, is still number 3 for top 3-day grosses and number 1 for opening weekends in May and received an average B from pollers….
OR did you mean it was a train wreck because you didn’t like it?
Just because you though Spidey 3 was a wreck doesn’t mean it was. Box Office Proves otherwise.
Only difference is SP3 made more money than the others and was only a critical disaster. BATMAN & ROBIN was both a critical and box office disaster.
Spider-Man 3 was a great film, and it was done by a director who cares about Spider-Man.
You stupid moron.
Note to SONY:
There are Spider-man fans not at comic-con.
Speaking for them and your not letting us see the images, well, Cee Lo Green put it best.
LOL @ the picture of Killer Croc from BATMAN, a DC, not Marvel comic. That should have been the first clue that picture wasn’t of The Lizard. Bravo team!
You did read the entire report didn’t you?
Was in a packed house for “Captain America” tonight when the trailer unspooled. People had more of a reaction to the “Immortals” trailer than this. Ambivalence.
Deal with it, folks. This new rebooted Spidey is going to be HUGE. Zero doubt about it.
The smell of marketing flop sweat. It is only NOW occurring to you that this was a stupid idea??
Got this weeks lottery numbers while you are at it?
Luke Thompson,
Get a clue about the subject you’re writing about. Nobody gives a rat’s patoot about Killer Croc.
I’m glad marc webb’s spiderman looks darker/gritty and more like a Fincher film. The Raimi ones were to cartooney for me.
And they could have rebooted without doing the origin story again. This is just retarded.
Not keen on another origin story so soon after the others… But Andrew Garfield looks good as Parker/Spider-Man and I’m looking forward to seeing what someone other than Raimi can do with the franchise.
Just hope the writing is strong. Good dialogue and story as well as kick-ass action scenes, please!
They’re rebooting it with an origin flick because they need to reset all the rules, assumptions, motivations, etc. The origin movie always lays down the groundwork for subsequent entries. Most importantly, the origin movie sets/resets the tone for the series (like what the recent Casino Royale did for Bond).
Imagine if Nolan simply picked up where Schumacher left off — Nolan would be bound by a lot of hokey tone, rules and standards.
I’m glad they’re doing it this way. A huge part of the character’s motivations are derived from the dead uncle Ben storyline… And this movie adds to it by exploring the orphan/separation from parents story that Raimi never even touched. Raimi’s films bordered on camp, Webb’s looks more gritty, grounded, etc.
If anything, an origin flick is less of a crash grab than sequels. Nolan’s Batman Begins didn’t exactly set the box office on fire; if they simply made this “Spider-man 4″ with a new cast, it would make far more, especially overseas. Instead, they’re doing it right by doing it “their way.”
Should have gone British Asian for larger international appeal with Dev Patel as Spider-Man, Nima Nourizadeh as director, and Jo Ho as writer.
JohnT,
A different take on the same story is still called a remake. They are “remaking” the Spiderman origin story. There are so many stories to tell, but Sony chose to remake a billion dollar movie. I hope they learn a valuable lesson about intellectual laziness and greed.
I was at the 1030AM opening day Captain America at Kips Bay AMC [NYC] and they ran the Spider-Man trailer. Surprisngly little reaction, too. I didn’t expect that at all.
Time will tell but I have no interest in this one. What next for a reboot, Peter is really a supermodel now and part of the elite of Cannes?
This guy is a pretty boy out of the Twilight mold and that alone makes it worthless to me and those I talk with about this.
Besides I’m tired of reboots/reimagining/starting over/whatever. The Spidey comics have storylines that span the last 50 years and they have to restart it AGAIN?
Toby Macguire worked because he did look like the sort of person we would imagine Peter Parker as.
This guy?
Straight out of Ford Modeling and has the right cheekbones,hair and smile designed to get the little girlies panties all a twitter and that is not who Spiderman is.
It will probably make money but I would be surprised if it made a lot.
Straight out of Ford Modeling? Andrew Garfield? Are we talking about the same actor here?
Well, no, Toby looks nothing like Peter Parker from the comic books. But I do agree with your point about the new teen they’ve hired. Personally, I think it’s safe to say that Raimi didn’t quite nail it, and my concern is that the reboot will completely miss.
“It looks really similar to Jim Lee’s drawings of Batman villain Killer Croc. Imagine a CG version for Lizard. Very close. Yes, ironic that a Bat-villain appears to be the basis for a Spider-Man villain’s look. ” Like another comment above, The Lizard was around WAAAAY before Killer Croc was created.
Not ironic at all that The Lizard was chosen as the villain in the Spiderman reboot. The Lizard was a pivotal character in the comics, and also several of the TV cartoon versions of Spidey. The coincidence with Jim Lee’s Killer Croc rendition isn’t all that odd either; how many ways are there to render an anthropomorphic lizard man for crying out loud?!
I’m there. Can’t wait to see the new picture… Although I have to admit I loved one, two and even number three of Spidey. I thought the last effort was a little convoluted. Too many side stories. Each villian deserved their own story or we needed to just pull the SINISTER SIX together to go after Spidey. I am sorry we won’t get to see Dylan Baker’s take on Conners going through the transformation that turned him into the LIZARD… He’s a great actor with great chops.
Toby was magnificent as Peter Parker. I was looking forward to seeing what he would do after his breakthrough role in BROTHERS. There’s no way he would be the same actor. I thought he gave an Academy quality performance as the emotionally wounded veteran in Brothers. Sometimes an actor does a role that changes everything… Kind of like when Ethan Hawk did TRAINING DAY… He’s risen to a different level since.
It always upset me the way they juxtaposed the Mary Jane/Gwen Stacey story in one, but I still enjoyed the ride. We’ll never forget the great kiss between MJ and PP… Hanging upside down… I look forward to a new vision with the story and the new cast…
This new spidey’s gonna rock the house, no doubt about it, the lame teaser is meant 2 throw people off track so the actual movie can blow them away
That lizard guy is part of the Spider-Man universe. Actually in the early Spider-Man comics and I think he was in the 90s cartoon series, but don’t quote me on that one.
The Lizard is boring visually. Big reptile-man? So what??? There aren’t a bunch of other really cool enemies out there that would be more fun to watch on the big screen? What about Mysterio? What would an updated version of a man with a fishbowl on his head look like?
I’m not surprised Tolmach didn’t say anything on the panel. It seems his “Don’t-call-back-Tolmach” days are over now that he is a producer and he clearly doesn’t like it.
Hearing about some of the scenes, especially the introduction of The Lizard sounds chilling and interesting. I am looking forward to this movie. I am already liking the tone.
Then you are the sort of moron, that this film is for. and yes, I saw the trailer for this reboot film at a theater, No one liked it.