MONDAY 12 PM: It’s now official. According to today’s actuals, DreamWorks/Universal’s Cowboys & Aliens narrowly beat Sony Pictures’ Smurfs for the weekend win $ $36,431,290 vs $35,611,637.
SATURDAY PM/SUNDAY AM, 6TH UPDATE WRITETHRU: If I hear the words “too close to call” one more time this weekend coming from a Hollywood executive looking at early weekend numbers… DreamWorks/Universal’s Cowboys & Aliens ticked up slightly from Friday to Saturday, while Sony Pictures’ The Smurfs ticked down slightly.
So it all depends on Sunday whether the Western/scifi mashup or the little blue guys get bragging (and marketing) rights as the #1 opening movie. Right now both Uni and Sony are projecting Cowboys and Smurfs tied at $36.2M for the weekend. Let’s see when the dust clears for Monday’s actuals. But a Sony exec emails me, “If we beat them or even are close Saturday, we’ve got them as our Sunday will definitely be better.”
What is crystal clear is that Smurfs is overperforming way beyond expectations while Cowboys & Aliens is way behind expectations to the point of tanking. What’s more humiliating than Hollywood execs overestimating the opening for Cowboys and having it fall short? Having their well-pedigreed motion picture with big Hollywood writers (Roberto Orci & Alex Kurtzman), stars (Daniel Craig & Harrison Ford), director (Jon Favreau), and producers (Steven Spielberg & Ron Howard & Brian Grazer) beaten at the box office by Smurfs. Especially with Smurfs playing in 355 fewer North American theaters than Cowboys but charging higher 3D ticket prices. Smurfs even beat Cowboys on CinemaScores: ‘A’ vs ‘B’. The other major studio release was Warner Bros’ rom-com Crazy, Stupid, Love which received ‘B+’ CinemaScore and opened to the normal $19.3M for the weekend. This is another big summer weekend with overall moviegoing $175M which is +20% from last year.
1. Cowboys & Aliens (DreamWorks/Universal) NEW [3,750 Runs]
Friday $12.9M, Saturday $13M, Estimated Weekend $36.2M
This much-hyped high concept pic from DreamWorks and Relativity and Imagine and Universal (distributing domestic only with Paramount taking foreign) couldn’t do even the predicted $45 million for the weekend, but it didn’t even get to $40M either. ”Cowboys & Aliens did not get any late night young male business — hence the reason Universal’s estimates were so far off,” a rival studio exec explained to me Friday night. I’ve been saying for months this actioner should have been done as a comedy! But that idea was only briefly discussed and quickly rejected. Problem is that the budget has been pegged by insiders at a low of $163M (because of filming rebates) and a high of $200M. That’s partly because Cowboys endured a tortured 14-year development history involving more than a dozen writers. (Just five writers received screenplay credit after the Writers Guild not surprisingly held an arbitration trying to figure out who did what.) So here’s yet another Hollywood case study of too many cooks spoiling the broth.
Awareness had been strong for the title and interest had been best with older males. But tracking had been lagging especially with women of all ages until last Thursday when it popped up. This weekend’s exit polls showed the audience was 53% male vs. 47% female, with 63% of moviegoers age 30 years and older vs. 37% who were under age 30. Good thing Universal is only on the hook for 25% financing with DreamWorks taking 50% and Relativity Media 25%. DreamWorks oversaw production, and the marketing was managed as a partnership among Universal and DreamWorks. The film itself is based on a 100-page Platinum Studios graphic novel created by Scott Mitchell Rosenberg and written by Fred Van Lente and Andrew Foley.
It’s going to be hard for anyone involved in the movie to shrug off responsibility for it underperforming because even the studio was gushing pre-release about its pedigree “because of its deep bench of heavyweight filmmakers and stars, and the most fan-engaged because of involving them directly at every step, particularly through director Jon Favreau, the big-ticket director most active in social media and direct interaction with his followers. Every step of the campaign kept many hands on the wheel, shared by Universal, DreamWorks and the filmmaking team, who all worked in close collaboration on every decision.” Oops! As for marketing, the first teaser trailer was placed on Part 1 of Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows last November, followed by a Super Bowl teaser. The first full trailer made its debut on American Idol on April 14th and in theaters on April 29 with Universal’s big hit Fast Five. The TV campaign included season finales for Top 10 Nielsen shows and sports events.
The publicity campaign launched at last year’s Comic-Con even though the film had only been in production for a few weeks, Favreau used his Iron Man connection with fans to debut nearly 8 minutes of footage, including the first alien attack on the pioneer town in the film. While Harrison Ford made his first-ever appearance to a huge reception. This year’s Comic-Con featured a full-frills world premiere featuring Favreau as well as Spielberg, making his own first appearance at the Con. But it’s interesting how the movie disappointed despite favreau whoring himself out to The Hollywood Reporter (which nobody reads) and Ain’t It Cool News (which nobody believes). The director even dragged along producer Ron Howard and producer/co-writer Bob Orci to some events, showing more and more footage each time. I heard from Universal that Daniel Craig was a royal pain in the ass when it came to doing publicity, but he did enough with Harrison Ford to merit one magazine cover line, “When Bond Met Indy”. (Barf!)
The usual talk show circuit was highlighted by Jimmy Kimmel Live‘s “Cowboys & Aliens Week” promotion which had Favreau revisiting his Dinner For Five cable show and personally interviewing his lead cast members and filmmakers for a series of online segments. Favreau also helped create and star in a special skit with YouTube vlogging personality Freddie Wong, who specializes in action-packed and parody videos especially popular with boys. The film became the first ever to be a primary sponsor of a Nascar across multiple races as well as a tie-in with Coca-Cola in theater concessions via drink cups, and popcorn bags and buckets over the course of the summer in 8 of the top theater chains in North America. Other promotions with leading brands included 7-Eleven, Nestlé, Comcast, NCM/Sprint, Pemmican, and Hilton. And in addition to all that, the film made a significant Hispanic outreach across specialized media and publicity, highlighted by a closing night screening at the Los Angeles Latino International Film Festival. Well, you can’t fault anyone for lack of trying.
1. The Smurfs – 3D (Sony) NEW [3,395 Runs]
Friday $13.4M, Saturday $12.7M, Estimated Weekend $36.2M
Sure, it’s easy to look down your nose at The Smurfs, but the studio tells me it was brought in out of turnaround from Paramount by no less than Sony Pictures Entertainment Chairman/CEO Michael Lynton. Animation was overseen by Bob Osher and Hannah Minghella (who is now president of production for Sony’s Columbia Pictures) while live action was shepherded by Doug Belgrad. Marketing was taken in hand by Jeff Blake and Marc Weinstock. Hollywood never expected Smurfs to have such a phenomenal Friday except Sony. ”The studio has always had confidence in the franchise,” an exec gushed to me. Exit polls showed that 35% of this weekend’s audience was general moviegoers while 65% was kids with parents. Of the family sample, 40% were parents of children under age 12 and 25% were children under 12. The overall breakdown showed the film skewed female with 64% of the audience moms and/or their daughters. The general age breakdown showed 45% was under 25 and 55% was 25+. Overall, 3D accounted for 45% of all ticket sales.
The cartoon first launched in Europe in 1958 so the pic was tracking well overseas after Global Smurfs Day was organized by Sony in Brussels, Athens, The Hague, Dublin, Mexico City, Panama City, Warsaw, Moscow, Johannesburg, London, and NYC (which celebrated Smurfs Week including lighting the Empire State Building Smurf blue in a special event with UNICEF). There was even a small town in Spain where the village volunteered to paint their entire town Smurf blue. And Smurfs fans set a new Guinness world record for the largest gathering of people dressed as the little blue guys within a 24-hour period in multiple venues. “That, plus a huge opening in Spain, makes for a pretty Smurfy opening with worldwide prospects for France, Belgium, and Germany opening next week,” a Sony exec says.
Look, I don’t get the appeal of garden gnomes or troll dolls or Smurfs for that matter. They creep me out, frankly. But the little blue guys were first drawn by Belgian artist Pierre “Peyo” Culliford for a comic book. The “Schtroumpfs,” as they were initially called, have lasted 50 years and generated comics, books, television series, films, videogames, live shows, and figurines. The Smurfs movie also took a long time to come to the Big Screen. In 1980, the late (and great) Brandon Tartikoff developed the Hanna-Barbera show on NBC for Saturday mornings. It ran 8 years. In 1997, producer Jordan Kerner sent the first of a series of letters to Lafig, the licensing agent for the Smurfs brand, as a first step to making a movie. And in 2002, after seeing Kerner’s adaptation of E.B. White’s Charlotte’s Web, Peyo’s heirs gave the OK. Starring Neil Patrick Harris, Jayma Mays, Sofia Vergara, and Hank Azaria, the roon/live action hybrid was directed by Raja Gosnell. Screenplay credits went to J. David Stem & David N. Weiss and Jay Scherick & David Ronn with story by J. David Stem & David N. Weiss.
Sony focused its marketing first and foremost on introducing this brand to a whole new generation of kids who were not familiar with it. “The campaign used a two-pronged approach: one track targeted kids and children while the other hit the baby boomers who grew up with the hit NBC series and had a nostalgic connection to this brand from their youth,” a Sony exec says. NBCUniversal, as the longtime home of the Smurfs’ TV show, aired Sony’s custom animation and custom promos including Smurfs-branded spots, vignettes, in-show integrations, logo animations, sneak peeks, and digital extensions during the past two weeks. One showed the Smurfs taking over an NBCUniversal control room. There also were Nickelodeon sneak peaks during the Saturday Morning Animation Block hosted by Neil Patrick Harris.
In the consumer marketing arena, 3rd party partners included McDonald’s planned the year’s largest global campaign in over 30,000 restaurants. Post cereal, which created the original Smurf Berry Crunch in 1983, is back again with a limited edition blue and white breakfast cereal and collectible box featuring two sides: one with 3D movie graphics and the other with the classic Smurf cartoon art. Gourmet Trading Company put the Smurfs into the nation’s grocery store produce aisles as the company featured the Smurfs on its packages of blueberries.
3. Captain America – 3D (Marvel/Disney/Paramount) Week 2 [3,715 Runs]
Friday $7.8M, Saturday $9.9M, Weekend $24.9M (-62%), Estimated Cume $116.7M
Ten days in North American release, Marvel/Disney’s latest superhero Captain America: The First Avenger is still running slightly behind Thor which took in $119.5M by this time vs $117.5M for the Chris Evans adventure. Paramount is gleeful over its 6th consecutive release over $100M in the U.S., claiming no studio has ever had more than 4. This weekend, pic opened strong in Latin America and Asia (but not Japan and China). International numbers around noon.
4. Harry Potter/Hallows Pt 2 - 3D (Warner Bros) Week 3 [4,145 Runs]
Friday $6.6M, Saturday $8.5M, Weekend $21.9M, Cume $318.4M
Yes, the Harry Potter franchise finale keeps dropping (-54% this 3rd domestic weekend in release) and now appears front-loaded. But what a load!
5. Crazy, Stupid, Love (Warner Bros) NEW [3,020 Runs]
Friday $7M, Weekend $19.3M
Another summer weekend, another summer rom-com — this time from Warner Bros. Better reviewed than most, Crazy, Stupid, Love should have “a large multiple and legs,” according to the studio, adding, “Watch for excellent mid-week business as well.” The better-than-average casting of Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone and Steve Carell and Julianne Moore signaled this wasn’t the usual lamefest with dopey dialogue. And the marketing smartly played off that. “We sought to highlight the films originality, and position it as a funny and deeply felt and refreshing look at how relationships make people crazy,” a Warner Bros insider tells me. Branding the title and giving it meaning was also key. Studio married “caught” moments from the film with bold colors and repetitive copy saying “This is crazy”, “This is stupid”, “This is love.” The campaign kicked off with trailers in April and May and played all through the summer. The very aggressive TV campaign started in May with season finales. “We used longer length spots in the beginning to convey the multiple story lines, and used a heavy amount of reviews as soon as we had them to define the film as something out of the ordinary.” In terms of publicity, the cast appeared together on the MTV Movie Awards. To build word of mouth, the studio held over 200 screenings in over 60 markets and hosted tastemaker events in key cities designed to tap into that elusive circle of trendsetters especially online. Fans were asked at each screening to tweet if they liked the movie and fan the film on Facebook. Two weeks before release, Warner Bros pushed out 3 online content pieces on Apple. And in keeping with the strategy of pushing out as much content as possible, the final push included an original video shot with Steve Carrell for Funny or Die which appeared this week of release.
6. Friends With Benefits (Screen Gems/Sony) Week 2 [2,926 Runs]
Friday $3.2M, Saturday $3.4M, Weekend $9.3M (-48%), Cume $38.2M
7. Horrible Bosses (New Line/Warner Bros) Week 4 [2,510 Runs]
Friday $2.2M, Saturday $2.8M, Weekend $7.1M, Cume $96.2M
8. Transformers 3 – 3D (Paramount) Week 5 [2,604 Runs]
Friday $1.7M, Saturday $2.3M, Weekend $5.9M, Estimated Cume $337.8M
9. Zookeeper (Sony) Week 4 [2,418 Runs]
Friday $1.3M, Saturday $1.6M, Weekend $4.2M, Estimated Cume $68.7M
10. Cars 2 – 3D (Pixar/Disney) Week 6 [1,763 Runs]
Friday $671K, Saturday $921K, Weekend $2.3M, Estimated Cume $182M
SATURDAY AM, 4TH UPDATE: (Mea Culpa: Not a good idea for me to stay up all night doing box office. I get tired and transpose figures. Here are the corrected numbers.) According to Universal’s North American box office stats, Cowboys & Aliens opened only #2 Friday with $12.994M, beaten by the $13.291M debut of Sony Pictures’ The Smurfs. But Universal is still claiming its Western/scifi mashup should come in #1 for the weekend at $36.78M, ahead of the little blue guys toon’s $36.02M. Or is that only wishful thinking at this point? Smurfs is really overperforming while Cowboys & Aliens is way behind expectations to the point of tanking.
FRIDAY PM/SATURDAY AM, 2ND UPDATE: Talk about humiliation! By late night Friday, it became clear that not only was the Western/scifi mashup from DreamWorks and Relativity and Imagine and Universal (distributing domestic only with Paramount taking foreign) not doing the predicted $45 million for the weekend, but that it was running neck-and-neck with Sony Pictures’ little blue guys toon for first place. So both Cowboys & Aliens and The Smurfs are looking around $13M for Friday. And we won’t know who is truly No. 1 well into Saturday morning. “Cowboys & Aliens did not get any late night young male business — hence the reason Universal’s estimates were so far off,” a rival studio exec explained to me Friday night. But Sony execs went to bed expecting Smurfs to be #1 which should translate into a “way overperforming’ $37M. Some rival studios are even predicting that Cowboys could fall short with only mid-$30sM. Smurfs beat Cowboys on CinemaScores ‘A’ vs ‘B’. Refined numbers and full analysis in the morning.
FRIDAY 5 PM UPDATE: Now I’m told that DreamWorks/Imagine/Universal’s mashup Cowboys & Aliens is picking up steam at the box office tonight and could open with $17M grosses for Friday and a $45M weekend. “It’s hitting a good pace,” a Universal exec just told me. Maybe there’s more room there because the weekend number is still on the low end of what the studio was expecting. Sony Pictures’ Smurfs is looking even stronger for $12M today for a $32M weekend which is respectable for its target audience of very young moviegoers. And Warner Bros’ Crazy, Stupid, Love is still looking like $6M today for probably a $19M first weekend in line with other recent rom-coms. Stay tuned for more updates and full analysis tonight.
FRIDAY 12 PM: It’s still very early so I’m not prepared yet to definitively say that DreamWorks/Imagine/Universal’s mashup Cowboys & Aliens is dramatically underperforming because older audiences come out later. But sources are telling me that today’s seeming $15M debut may add up to at most a $40M weekend which is below the studio’s own lowball projections of $45+M. Sony Pictures’ Smurfs is looking like $10M today for $29M weekend which is respectable for its target audience of very young moviegoers. And Warner Bros’ Crazy, Stupid, Love is looking like $6M today for probably a $18M first weekend.
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Disagree on the “…as a comedy” comments. Not a huge fan of the film but it’s solid. I do agree it’s a little too serious….Craig and ford (who I actually really enjoyed in this, more so than in his last six orvso films) are too similar, leaving lighter moments mainly to sam Rockwell. BUT I think it honestly works about as well as it could, though it’ doesn’t really push sci-fi or westerns in any truly novel directions beyond the concept. As a comedybthough I think it easily would’ve been a limp effort a la “wild wild west”
I think Cowboys and Aliens should have been more like Firefly in mixing comedy with drama. They should have had Joss Whedon do a new script.
Exactly. Then it would have made like, 14 mil, and really been a bomb.
That’s what I love about this board. People question the decisions of the suits at the studios only to come up with even more insane ideas that would have even worse implications. Methinks it might be time to go back to letting immigrant rug merchants make the decisions in Hollywood just like the old days.
bill, it’s a bomb ALREADY. Get a clue.
Hmmm. I actually had a pretty good time at Cowboys and Aliens. Not saying it will be racking up the Oscars. The medium sized audience I saw it with seemed to enjoy it.
Just got back from a matinee performance in Burbank. The house was about 75% full for the 10:50am showing. The movie is actually really good. I don’t understand all the haters on this one. It’s a really good four-quadrant summer popcorn movie. The audience was laughing out loud at the supporting characters funny parts, especially Clancy Brown’s character. They were ooing and ahhing at the fight scenes and the audience clapped at the end. Sorry, but this should never have been a comedy, and one of the reasons it is so great is that the actor’s play it straight and believe what is going on, which is a testament to the thespians as well as the director. Harrison Ford hasn’t looked this tuned in in years. It all boils down to this: “Indiana Jones and James Bond as cowboys fighting aliens”. Laugh all you want and hate away, but this thing will have great legs and just might even make it to $200 million domestic dollars, based on your $40 million opening estimate, which I believe will end up being much closer to $50 million, if not more, once the evening and Saturday bump are taken into account. It did cost a lot to make, but I bet it makes it’s money back overseas, where it should be a huge hit. Remember when Armageddon opened, and everyone said it had a poor opening. Well, what did it go on to do? Case closed. You’re a very smart and savvy lady Nikki, however you’re are so wrong to think this should have been a comedy. And if anyone wants to call me a suit or thinks I’m a studio exec, go right ahead. I know who I am and you’re opinions don’t matter to me.
Olivia Wilde
and her symmetrical face
smile at you coldly.
Am I the only one who got this? Nice haiku!
No, it’s just lame.
As are the other haiku posts above.
Nice try. There is no way it is going to make $200 million.
Really!!! Wanna’ bet?
Gladly!
You know, Mayor, I have to repeat what another commentator asked you in a previous post above, “Are you insane?!”
Your logic is borderline delusional. C&A is a giant stinking BOMB and it is NOT going to make 200 million. Even the studio shills know that. Captain America made more money its opening weekend and that’s not going to hit 200 million.
And I won’t even mention the P&A costs for C&A… I’ll simply say they’re ENORMOUS.
Are you 12 years-old or something?
No lil’ Jimmy, but perhaps the movie business would be much more interesting if 12-year old’s were making the decisions instead of all the trust-fund nepotistic turds who are ruling hollywood right now. The fact is that the movie business got huge by being innovative and taking risks, which is something that is sorely lacking in the current movie-”business” world. Most people like you could care less if a movie is good, you’re just concerned with analyzing the box-office results and spewing your vitriol. With that being said, movies are making less and less money now, and no amount of 3D post work or higher ticket prices can cover up the fact that fewer people are going to the movies. While Cowboys and Aliens is definitely a pic made to make money, at least they took some time to try and write an actual script with something going on other than just a bunch of quick-cut stupid action scenes and a vague outline of a story substituting for an actual script along with a voice-over narrative to explain what the script does not. Have you even seen the movie? The characters aren’t the best I’ve ever seen on film by any stretch, but at least they aren’t just a bunch of cardboard cut-out characters like most movies you probably enjoy. Please get a clue. Oh, and by the way, did that weekend box office estimate just go up to $45 million? WOW, who’d have thunk it? When it ends up at $50 million, maybe you’ll allow your brain to think and understand and learn where all of your hate comes from.
Well said. I’m sick of the snide, negative-Nancy comments here. Most movies are (apparently) derivative shit churned out by lazy, moronic executives, but if the same studios try anything even remotely new or risky then they’re incompetent and should be replaced. I even read a recent comment here about how nobody will be watching that “hack” Spielberg’s work in 20 years – please! This used to be a thoughtful, sensible site, now it’s filled with bitter, narcissistic whiners who know nothing about the movie business and think that if they hate a movie then anyone who likes it is less than stupid.
You’re targeting the wrong guy, dude. You don’t even know me. I am NOT a box office analyst. I usually root for overproduced adolescent fantasies like C&A to fail. You need to chill.
Uhhh looks like that estimate went DOWN to $36 million. Like you said, please get a clue.
You must be a studio person. I’m just a fan of the industry, went to see the movie at a midnight showing and found the flick to be dull, poorly paced and flat. Every time the film would gain a tiny bit of momentum, Favreau would cut with another dull speech, a new development which destroyed the energy.
Craig’s great, Ford looks like he’s stoned and Wilde is decent but almost marginal.
It comes down to lots of shots of tight pants on Craig’s ass, Sam Rockwell’s Ned Flanders moustache and Olivia Wilde’s eyes. I was so looking forward to this flick and dragged a friend to it – halfway through I apologized out of embarrassment.
BTW the aliens are too reminiscent of the Super 8 aliens and we all just saw that a couple weeks ago….. weird to have two Spielberg produced movies in one summer with similar creatures.
Mayor, it looks like the people have spoken when it comes to this box office disaster. You might have seen it at 12:01 am with a crowd of 75% full but that was for one screening. The word of mouth has dragged this movie down so bad that The Smurfs edged it out for Friday’s estimates. Just because a theater was 75% full when you saw it doesn’t mean that everyone liked it. For every good review, there can be 5 bad reviews to counteract it. From what I have seen…..this movie is terrible. I have no desire to see Cowboys And Aliens or The Smurfs for that matter. It’s funny that a bunch of CGI blue characters that were created in the 80′s are beating out Daniel Craig and Harrison Ford.
Cowboys and Aliens should have been more like Firefly in mixing comedy with drama. They should have had Joss Whedon do a new script.
Just got back from Cowboys & Aliens and I honestly enjoyed it. I think the whole audience enjoyed it too. It had humor in the right spots and was serious in some spots. This SHOULD not be a comedy and I think it would have bombed alot harder if it was a comedy. Craig and Ford gave very good performances and I think the movie will have legs. Its a new film and not based on any franchise.
I’m actually considering seeing it again. People saying it looked awful are the same people paying to see crap like Transformers with hardly any heart to its story. Cowboys & Aliens isn’t perfect, but its a damn good summer film and its nice to see something like this come out after having so many sequels, comic book heroes, remakes, etc.
True “Cowboys and Aliens” isn’t a sequel, reboot, remake or not even really an adaptation since the script was written before the graphic novel.
That said, it hardly screams original. Cowboys have been done again and again. Aliens have been done again and again. Even the two genres have been combined before, in a film that even Will Smith couldn’t turn into a hit. When people say they’re tired of reheated crap, and that they want something original, they mean that they want to see a great spec script that was so good that some studio exec had to take the risk and bring it to the screen.
“Cowboys and Aliens” just sounds like a phrase that some hack lobbed out at a pitch meeting and sold entirely on concept. Is it so much to ask for original execution in a summer movie?
Farzan–
You do realize that Orci and Kurtzman, the same two who wrote Transformers, which you appropriately called “crap…with hardly any heart to its story,” are the same two also wrote Cowboys and Aliens which you are praising?
This is why it’s impossible to take people who defend this movie seriously.
I love how everyone who likes Olivia Wilde is either a “PR flack” or a “fan”. You people are pathetic. You’re like the schoolyard bully who is jealous of someone nice. So, you’re immediate response is to take them down at all costs. It’s childish really. But, that’s what you can expect with people that have the mindset of children.
Seriously, if she isn’t talented, then why is she being offered the role of Linda Lovelace? Why are producers and writers actively seeking her? There’s a reason for it.
“If she isn’t talented, then why is she being offered the role of Linda Lovelace?”
Was this sentence supposed to read as an intentional joke?
Ummm…. maybe they think she sucks
Who HASN’T been offered the role of Linda Lovelace? She’s got so many biopics in the works that even Snow White’s jealous.
Nice bit of writing. Not too many clever people here.
It’s not childishness, it’s sexism. In the long time I’ve been reading this column, it’s disheartening that every time an actress opens in a new film, there’s a bunch of haters lining up to take her down.
Olivia Wilde is a more than capable actress who’s done a good job in the limited roles she’s had so far. For all those making the “she’s no Angelina Jolie” comments, let’s remembert that when Angelina Jolie was at the point in her career that Wilde’s at now, she had done HACKERS, FOXFIRE, PLAYING GOD and PUSHING TIN–all flops. Good thing Jolie didn’t listen to anyone who might have told her to hang it up back then.
It may be time for Hollywood to reconsider the whole “Daniel Craig is a box office draw” line of thinking.
Since 2006, all of his non-Bond films have been box office disappointments- including those that were heavily promoted: The Golden Compass, Defiance, and (now) Cowboys and Aliens.
Even the success of Bond can’t be attributed to him, since Casino Royale proved that you don’t need a recognizable name to sell the franchise. Yes, the last two Bond films may have made a lot of money, but so did the two before that…and the two before that.
(In fact, you have to go all the way back to 1989 to find a Bond film that underperformed. Coincidentally, it was also the last time a Bond film was poorly promoted.)
You’re right, bree. While I think Daniel Craig is a good actor, he’s not an A-lister.
Saying Craig isn’t a box-office draw is completely stupid.Fair enough, C&A looks like it’ll underproform, but it woulden’t have if it didn’t cost an astounding $163m-$200m (more expensive than Thor, and that was considered a big risk for Marvel).It’ll tap out at around $140m (domestic).The blame lies with Uni/DWA/Relativity
for spending so much on a summer tentpole that would have been a BO risk if it had only cost $125m (w/out marketing).
Fair enough,Craig is a big name and coulden’t open this flick. But with its huge budget, did C&A ever have a chance of turning a profit (especially w/ the amount of back-end deals Spielberg, Howard etc. had)?
Oh, while its fair to say Golden Compass failed, Craig was only a bit player in that, its wasn’t a flick he carried. And Defience wasn’t even a tentpole.
Beacon, look at Craig’s box office history, then get back to me.
What I’m saying is that any tentpole flick Craigs been in thats flopped is one in which he wasn’t the lead (Compass,Invasion etc.)C&A is the first big-budget tentpole picture thats flopped in which Craig has been the lead.
All I can say is that Sony need to move Dragon Tattoo from December 21st ASAP. Sherlock 2 , M:I:IV and Tintin(ironicly,co-starring Craig) are going to be the films audiences want to see this Christmas, and there just won’t be room for an R-rated, $100 million adult-themed film, even if it is from one of the greatest directors of our time. They should get a jump start on the competition and open on December 2nd or 9th ( that release frame worked well or Black Swan) and restore Craigs bankability (if you’ll pardon the pun).
Wilde is tough to watch act. It’s almost awkward. No shot that she’s the next Jolie.
I, too, had high hopes for this film, but it underwhelmed at it’s premier (yes, I was there) and it will underwhelm in the BO. Sad to say, it’s just bad.
Would have to disagree with that. I was also at the premier and the movie got huge applause Turku out the showing. Granted, the Comic-Cn audience was guaranteed to love whatever they saw but it’s huge fun.
Just another example of how studios are going to lose a TON of cash on these awful graphic novels that have a VERY LIMITED fanboy audience. Bring down the budgets and give us something to chew on please.
“Men in Black” had near zero readership as a comic book. The graphic novel source material isn’t the problem, the execution of the film is the problem. Favreau tossed out everything from the C&A graphic novel but the title and turned it into a dark western with some UFOs thrown in.
Though yes, for Pete’s sake, bring down the budgets!
Could have been Jonah Hex bad. I was really off on this one. A couple of months ago I thought it would be the big hit of the summer and thought R Downey was stupid for dropping out.
Boy was I wrong.
Also what caught my eye is the Ryan G. romantic comedy. I too thought it would bring in more cash. Those guys promoted the heck out of this thing. I will say I think Steve C. is totally overrated. He’s another Will Ferral and past his prime Sandler in the talented department. Another so called comedian who hit the lottery.
I’ve been saying for a while now that Daniel Craig isn’t really a movie star unless he’s the lead in the movie with a built-in audience. The Bond movies made money. The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo will make money. Otherwise his movies aren’t exactly setting records. The Golden Compass, Invasion and Defiance – all epic fails. Somebody call me when the guy gets a second facial expression.
Totally agree. He’s the Zoolander of action film stars. Strike a pose, look grim. I’ll be skipping the next Bond film.
Yeah, that’s always funny to me when they call Daniel big star. He is star, but not box-office star. All of his movies outside Bond flopped. And that Girl with the Dragon Tattoo movie – it will not get money. I don’t understand why every journalist or movie bloger thinks that this will be another Social Network. It won’t work with the audience. Rooney Mara is the actress no on knows and Daniel Craig is just like Nicole Kidman – box-office poison.
What I find interesting are the comments knocking C&A down.
Does it suck? Does it connect with the American public?
The fact is that it doesn’t matter. The total gross for worldwide distribution is what matters. The naysayers here think what they say matters, and frankly your comments don’t.
How about this: people made money, actors made money, production people made money, cgi production houses which employ people made money.
Is C&A a cinematic work of art? I think not. Does it make you want to see it again on the big screen. I know I want to see Captain America again.
The entertainment that has gained traction here in the USA are games for the xbox and PS3.
When the money men wake up and see that the American public are not the taste makers we once were we will continue to be confused as to why movies do not connect here but do in a worldwide audience. It’s called a decline.
The american center has lost it’s mojo.
this movie will not make money internationally either – it’s a western and no amount of star power and good marketing will take away from this. even at a $150m budget this will film will lose a lot of money. period.
and at the end of the day, if all the people involvedi n making the movie made money but the stduio and the other financiers don;t then it’s a very bad thing. money will dry up for far longer than just one movie. start thinkin long term.
Boo, how much money did you make from C & A??
Whoever called Gosling “the Internet’s boyfriend” had it right, for now at least. That being said, at a matinée showing, which was predominantly female, there were audible gasps when Gosling removed his shirt in the soon-to-be-classic bedroom sequence. And he’s not the kind of actor, nor is it the kind of performance, that would be disarming to the male population (which is the problem, in part, the other famous Canadian actor named Ryan has). So if his fan base is rather niche going into this opening weekend, it shouldn’t stay that way for long.
THE NOTEBOOK was seven years ago. That was when women discovered him. So, if his fanbase is niche NOW, then it isn’t ever going to get bigger. Even as pure PR spin, your comment is nonsensical. Fit bodies are a dime a dozen (hello Ryan Reynolds). Gosling is maybe a bit too boring to garner the undying love of the female audience. After THE NOTEBOOK, they mostly all drifted away from him.
The Notebook was seven years ago, yes, but if you’re claiming that Gosling has spent those last seven years trying to cultivate his B.O. prowess while becoming a true blue Hollywood-can-depend-on leading man, a crack-addict teacher, an introverted blow-up-doll lover, and others would say otherwise. My point about the gasping was that most of the swooning directed towards Gosling thus far as been kept to the world of Twitter and / or critics’ groups. However, now in the widest released film of his career–and only the second film of his in six years to even be released wide (which would explain why his Notebook fan base might have “drifted away”)–the attention directed Gosling’s way should build beyond critics groups and on-line activity.
Also, I brought up Ryan Reynolds in my original reply and claimed that there was more to Gosling’s performance in CSL than a “fit body”, as seldom there is in Reynold’s case.
Just a fan. No PR insider shenanigans going on.
The point was, you are pushing a dishonest angle, saying women discovered gosling in this film and the film is a success, since it makes all women love him now. So many spinning lies packed into such a small space. Women discovered gosling 7 years ago and rendered their verdict then. Nobody is discovering him at this late date.
I’m saying mainstream, wide-release audiences, particularly female audiences, are having a chance to rediscover Gosling after he spent the last six or so years more or less off their radar.
And I also didn’t call this film a success. Read again, I didn’t. Your words.
Moreover, I don’t believe a film is a success based on its box office totals–and yes, I know that makes me the weird one in the midst of where I currently find myself replying. However, I just could never fix my face to call Smurfs a “success”, as an example. Rather, a film is a success based on the quality of the film-making on hand. In that case, CSL is a mild success, where more works than doesn’t. And then on the performance level, Steve Carell, Ryan Gosling, Emma Stone, Analeigh Tipton, and Jonah Bobo can all claim varying degrees of success.
Me getting caught in a back and forth between a bunch of myopic armchair insiders = not a success
That’s because the females are too bored by good indie movies that he’s done lately. They’d rather see the mainstream crap Reynolds does.
No Nikki, it should NOT have been a comedy!
ok so what happen to Captain America ? looks like that died fast ! the last film he said was Crazy stupid love with six million does that mean it had less then that ?????
PBR, no — Nikki is just giving estimates on the openers. CAP has done $90+ million since last weekend, it’ll likely end up $25 mil+ this weekend. It’s doing just fine.
Died fast? It’s customary for summer tentpoles to decline by at least 50 percent after it’s week one release. Get a clue. Captain America is going to gross at least 200 million in the states and 450 million worldwide. It’s definitely not a bust.
More like 150 million. Get a clue.
Wow, Chad, you think Captain America will only get 150 million worldwide??? Get a clue.
Look, it’s good. It ain’t great. It ain’t awful. It’s OK. It’ll do fine. Not great, but OK. It’s True Grit meets Aliens. It’s far from a perfect film, but I can’t name you one in the last ten years that was a perfect film.
I’d rather see everyone rooting for this, than declaring it dead. Why? Like it, or not, C&A made some bold choices. It’s different. THANK GOD. I think we’re all pretty sick of the usual crap that gets spewed out of this town. We all complain we want Studios to take some chances and make different stuff.
Well, here we have something different and new. Missed opportunity? yup. Too many chefs, and it shows? yup. Studios F’up EVERY film they make. At least his one went in an interesting direction.
Root for the interesting direction, at least. We’re slittin’ our own throats bagging on things like this that AREN’T the typical nonsense.
It’s new nonsense!
It’s very very good. I saw the midnight showing. It easily beat my expectations. Fun story, great performances for a summer popcorn flick, looked beautiful and they found the way to blend the sci-fi alien element with the western aesthetic. Fresh, trippy, far more entertaining than I expected. After a great set up for Harrison Ford’s character, I didn’t like where they took the character late in the film, but outside of that I don’t have any big gripes. I’d say 9 stars out of 10 and so far my favorite summer popcorn flick.
There is absolutely NOTHING to justify that budget. Even if you gave Craig, Ford, Wilder, Spielberg and Favreau $20 million EACH, and gave $5 mil to each of the fourteen writers, it still doesn’t explain where the remaining $13-50 million went. Has anyone seen Skyline? We’re talking 10 times the effects and probably better quality. That’s not an exaggeration. The effects in C&A was only a step above an episode of Falling Skies on TNT. They looked great for what they were, but it’s all a bunch of ugly machines and lighting effects – which should be dirt cheap to animate and render at this point. WTF is wrong with this business? It’s just depressing because there’s no reason this movie shouldn’t have been made, and made profitably.
That was my exact question after watching the film… how did they manage to spend 200million and end up with so little to show for it.
COWBOYS AND ALIENS looked like a steaming pile of crap from the second the first trailers ran. Downey Jr. was wise to bow out — Craig was a bad choice, and Ford is too old. (And about Craig — does anyone care? I realize the guy is Bond, but that doesn’t mean audiences care about seeing him in anything else, or in anything just because he’s in it).
This is going to end up WILD WILD WEST all over again. More and more IRON MAN is looking like a fluke for Favreau.
Yo Doc, why don’t you actually go see the movie before chiming in with your ignorant opinion. I know you haven’t seen it and so does anyone else with a brain who read your post. I understand you hate Daniel Craig, however he IS a movie star, and an iconic one at that, and that’s something you’ll never be. I understand why you’re so angry, I guess I just wish you’d grow up. I’m sure Daniel Craig really cares about your opinion too! Oh wait, he doesn’t! Because he doesn’t even know who the f**k you are! And he doesn’t care what you think…just like everyone else reading your post. Please get a life!!!
Mayor, you are attacking people for voicing their opinion and you’re coming off as an over-defensive nutjob. The movie is tanking because audiences can smell desperation in the marketing. Take a deep breath. Calm yourself.
Snifter… 32 Millions opening is not “Tanking”. And voicing an opinion solely based on a trailer is asinine! 90% of the the negative comments on the article are from people who HAVE NOT SEEN THE MOVIE! If you haven’t seen the movie you have no right to comment on it!
It’s a free country, d bag. I can comment on anything I want. And, if you couldn’t tell from the trailer alone that C & A would suck, then you aren’t too bright.
Geez you’re hysterical.
So if someone critiques a film or the crap they put out these days then that person is a hater. Wow.
Are there any films that you dislike or you like everything that Hollywood puts out? Every movie is great, every “actor” is great, everyone is talented, everyone can write, everyone can direct…
You have way too much self-esteem, were you burn in the 80s? Public schools what have you unleashed on us!
Daniel Craig = boring, faceless, no personality, interchangeable with most other British actors in H’wood today (Jude Law, Clive Owen, etc.)
Olivia Wilde = hot chick with no talent
Ryan Gosling = blond man-boy with no personality or likability, probably gave some perv H’wood exec a boner
Harrison Ford = out of touch superstar decades past his prime, much like Tom Hanks
Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Do you drink a glass of bile every morning?
Daniel Craig is rather forgettable, he pouts too much, that pout, stop pouting. I do think he’s a good actor with a great body but he lacks energy/presence.
Harsh, but there is a grain of truth is everything Bill says. I love Daniel Craig and Ryan Gosling, but they have no drawing power. Ford is a star of the ’80s now coasting through all his roles. Wilde is just another starlet in a town with too many of them.
If you need to get an “alien” fix this weekend skip this piece of crap and check Attack the Block. Cowboys and Aliens had potential but damn if there wasn’t way too much going on in this film. Stick to the dynamic between Dollarhide and Lonergan, cut out all the tertiary characters, and let Olivia Wilde do her thing. Then you might have something worth watching. There was zero suspense even thought there were repeated attempts at such. There was little excitement, with the exception of a couple good action scenes. There were way too many characters with their own story lines… it was just a mess from beginning to end. Goes to show that when there are too many people making decisions the results are disappointing.
This is a huge shame. Cowboys & Aliens is a fun ride that unfortunately was not taken seriously as a movie due to the title. Great performances all around and the feel of a classic western. Shame the movie arrived so late in the summer.
It doesn’t deserve even 25 millions. I can’t believe it will made $40. I look in those trailers, all horrified. How, how on earth they read that script and thought that this is good idea? That idea and those trailers are the worst I saw in years. It’s not western, it’s not sci-fi, it’s not even western comedy.
Wild, Wild West was awfully bad but at least you could sit, watch how bad it was and laugh. But here in Cowboys & Aliens you can’t even laugh. You can just sit horrified.
And where on earth did the spend $165 millions? I understand where Michael Bay spend those millions in Transformers. I understand where they spend Harry Potter budget. It’s all in the movies. But where did they spend those $200 millions budgets on Green Lantern and Cowboys&Aliens? You can see in the trailers that they built some tree houses like any western builds. Like even any TV show western does. And there were few people on the horses and there were few special effects with aliens ship. WHERE did they spend all those millions?
I hope English isn’t your first language.
If you actually think that wild wild west is better than Cowboys and Aliens, then you are a total moron! Just saying. And to answer your question, they spent the millions mostly in developing the movie over 14 years. That includes all drafts of the script, developmental costs, the actual shooting, paying the actors, director and crew, casting, etc. People like to use the trumped up numbers because it’s easier for them to then call the film a flop when they need a good news story. Secondly , studios always overestimate the actual cost to offset their losses. I remember when 3000 miles to graceland came out and seeing the studio claim that it cost $70 million to make. The studio who made that later lost a lawsuit for overstating the actual cost of a number of films they made. That film cost closer to $35 million. It’s all about tax write-off’s and maximizing your profits. The MILLIONS extra end up in the studio’s and/or producer’s hands most of the time.
14 yrs in development? hahahahahhahahahahhaha
Have you seen the film?
I’m a Daniel Craig and Harrison Ford fan and really was excited about this – so much so I went to a midnight showing.. but the movie is snoozy. The direction is weird, Favreau kept undercutting his own momentum, it felt as though the story never really got started somehow.
And just for those who think I might be one of those Transformers people or an art house snob, I’m neither.
This summer I’ve enjoyed Bridesmaids, Midnight in Paris, Super 8, Beginners and Captain America (haven’t had time to see HP7 yet but figure I’ll probably like it as I just saw Part 1 a couple weeks ago and thought change in mood was wonderful for the series).
I like character driven quality movies — and neither the writing nor the direction were there for Cowboys and Aliens.
Saw Smurfs this morning in Long Beach. Theater full at 11:25am screening. Good reaction from the young ones.