Ray Richmond is contributing to Deadline’s coverage of TCA.
The panel session closing out PBS’ two-day rollout at TCA — for Ken Burns’ latest historical overview, Prohibition — was notably both preceded by a beer-and-wine dinner and followed by a cocktail party. The elfin but always eloquent Burns admitted during the session that he got into the spirit of the TCA event by having his first drink in “quite some time.” But he suffered no effects from his alcohol when asked his thoughts on the HBO series Boardwalk Empire that deals fictitiously with the same subject matter as his documentary that’s scheduled to premiere on Oct. 2, 3 and 4. And it turns out he’s a fan of the drama that’s produced in part by Martin Scorsese. “(HBO) has another huge hit on their hands in the mode of
The Sopranos,” Burns said, “and they’re not that dissimilar. Americans always love to watch people who get to kill people who piss them off…and women who take their clothes off at the drop of a hat. They’ve done their homework. (The show) is very complex and nuanced…We’re always amazed when we’ve done films that fit into the zeitgeist of the moment.” Burns noted that he’s pretty sure he and his associates began work on Prohibition “long before (Boardwalk Empire) was even a gleam in (HBO’s) eye. We don’t have the resources of HBO so it takes us a little bit longer. And we like to do it right.”


I agree with Ken Burns. The writing on Boardwalk Empire is very nuanced and complex. The characters are interesting because they are both good and bad. It has great writing because you never know how the characters are going to do next. For example, while Nucky loves Margaret, he also has her husband. Those qualities make him interesting. At the end of day, we’re not even sure how he sees Margaret, whether or not he really loves her or is just using her.
While Margaret starts out as a naive woman, she changes when she sees trucks of liquor being carried out of truck one night. She becomes suspicious of Nucky and starts to question him. By the end of the season, she is self confident and questioning Nucky about his role in her husbands murder. While some of her decisions are dangerous, they force her into becoming a much stronger woman.
That makes her an interesting character.
Boardwalk has failed to develop its characters and is overdependent on plot to move story. The characters don’t make much sense in how they behave. Love the production design and appreciated Margaret’s character in 3,4,5 before she went off the deep end to make no sense land.
The female characters sure take a lot of abuse in this show. I wonder if Terrence Winter and his buddies have been to therapy or if they just enjoy being sadistic in general.
Uh, David? It’s a show about gangsters, who are generally not respectful to women or anyone else.
Maybe you should rent “Guy and Dolls”. Great production design there as well. (And that Sky Masterson! Now there was a gangster who knew how to treat a lady!)
“The female characters sure take a lot of abuse in this show.”
David, it’s a realistic portrayal of the attitude of 1920s America and they showed the abuse in a negative light.
If the show is so bad, then why did it get great reviews? Alan Sepinwall, Maureen Ryan, Ken Tucker all gave the show great reviews as did the LA Times, James Poniewozik at Time, the Washington Post and many other newspapers and magazines.
Yeah, the show seriously lacks. Just embrace it, Paul. Just because all the kids are doing it, doesn’t mean you should.
Boardwalk Empires is amazing!
It’s about a very interesting period in American history. World War I is over and Americans were questioning why they ever got involved in that conflict. This sparked the rise of the Isolationist movement. Prohibition started and it funded the rise of Organized Crime. Finally women were recognized as citizens and given the vote, something Teddy Roosevelt had pushed for years before. And yes, politics, Democrat and Republican, was in itself dependent on corruption in far too many places.
The first season flew bye so quickly. I just loved it. I live in New Jersey, where even today the state gets rocked by political corruption scandals. These characters are complex. This isn’t a Women’s Stud course – it’s a historical drama and a good one!
This show was a meandering, overrated bore-fest! Except for Paz’s nudity, and some gun fighting here and there, this blew chinks!
I meant to write CHUNKS-thats CHUNKS-sorry, people!
Subconscious racism? Ha. Just kidding. Though you are wrong about the show blowing. Sure, it was no Band or Brothers or The Pacific, but it wasn’t terrible.
My friends were so excited for Boardwalk Empire but we found it depressing and dark. The show had barely any sense of humor or empathy, particularly for the female characters. Women on the show were mostly written and treated like they were garbage. It seemed it a creative choice and not a pure reflection of the times. I think this is such an interesting time in the history of the United States. I’m so looking forward to the Ken Burns documentary. His work is always outstanding.
please if i see one more comment on this blog about the misogynistic tendencies of the show ill go insane. the writers are accurately portraying, like burns himself says, the zeitgeist of the early twenties. in the wake of their newly-acquired right to vote they may experience some additional legitimacy in terms of perception, but their opinions still were not taken in earnest at least from the perspective of gangsters and politicians engaged in mass graft. the writers are also paid to make this show as realistic as possible; do not blame them for the actions of your ancestors you morons. it is our job to interpret history in an analytical manner,not simply denounce every single person who is even remotely associated with certain social institutions that are not con temporarily deemed acceptable. this show is extremely insightful, especially when it comes to illuminating PTSD (jimmy and richard harrow) angela’s experimentation with the avante garde homosexuality, and nucky’s exploitation of both the county’s public funds and minority population aka chalky white. do not use this forum as a medium for your ignorance. just go bury your head in the sand or jump in a fuckin lake.
Love this show!!! It’s factual. It would be exciting to see Margaret behave badly and gangstress. Nucky needs a female challenge but with some loyalty to him. XOXO
This show was the answer to my boredom and years of pleading to many networks for trying this idea. This has targeted a much forgotten part of our history, and how the public view of idolizing mobsters such as Al Capone. The great thing is, this show takes place in a very familiar world we live in today due to the so-called “War on Drugs” has sparked another government installed organized crime. This show really makes sense of confusing times, but times where corruption was rampant like dynamite exploding on the western front. Kodos to HBO, the genius Martin Scorsese, and the whole cast, can not wait until season 2
Boardwalk is the case of HBO acting like a studio, bringing together all the ingredients of a former hit, but putting together an empty shell of of the original.
An empty shell that has so far garnered:
Near-unanimous critical acclaim.
The AFI Award.
The Golden Globe.
The SAG Award for its lead and ensemble.
The DGA Award.
The WGA Award for Best New Series.
Oh yeah, and 18 Emmy Nominations.
I’m sure HBO is trying to figure out what went wrong.
Is this the press rep for Boardwalk Empire writing? Why would you even know this if you aren’t working on the show. The post with the list of critics is also a red flag. Folks at HBO you need to get off these message boards and chill.
I absolutely love this show. I feel like they are telling the story of us in the 21st century. Vote rigging, corruption, fake morals while lusting after money (see Margaret Shroeder), self righteousness while harboring sexual fantasies, murdering, etc. (see agent – I forgot his name).
I guess it is like today’s political climate.
Howard Korder is a brilliant writer whose obscure historical references and highly sophisticated language could challenge the likes of Ken Burns any day of the week. The writing is the seductive component in the series that makes people return to watch it, over and over.
I just threw up in my mouth.
Good one, Steve. Trot out the most over-used cliche of the last 5 years to show your displeasure at the fact that a writer with actual talent has been praised.
These comments read like they’re coming from people paid by HBO.
What’s with all the vitriol in the comments here? Boardwalk fans seem to have a very thin skin. Or is HBO overly monitoring the discussion with some summer interns typing responses?
The fans want to discuss the show. People go up and down with their comments. These attack dog responses to any criticism seem to short circuit any meaningful discussion of the big themes. The show is great and great TV often pisses people off and there are always a million ways any show can be better. Remember how obsessively viewers responded to Tony and Carmella? The show is going to have many wildly successful seasons and win awards. People love to watch shows that confuse them, piss them off and make them think and viewers are expressing that here. That’s the beauty of airing on HBO. Ken Burns doc is brilliantly timed in Boardwalk Empire’s favor to bring new eyes to the show.