NBC’s 30 Rock is one of the network’s workplace comedies (including The Office, Parks and Recreation, and Community) with Emmy nominations this year. 30 Rock already has a trio of back-to-back wins in the top comedy category for 2007-2009. But this time the show’s creative team is pushing hard for a directing win for Beth McCarthy for its much-touted live episode. A Saturday Night Live veteran, the helmer sometimes known as McCarthy-Miller is up against the other comedy director nominees Pamela Fryman for How I Met Your Mother and also Michael Alan Spiller, Gail Mancuso and Steven Levitan, all for Modern Family. Deadline TV contributor Diane Haithman talked to creator and star Tina Fey, showrunner Robert Carlock, and Beth McCarthy about their Emmy hopes for 30 Rock this year, whether the Tracy Morgan controversy will be written into the show, and if this will be Alec Baldwin’s final season:
DEADLINE: Do you think that Tracy Morgan’s seemingly anti-gay jokes in his standup routine [“I’ll kill my son if he acts gay”] will hurt the show’s Emmy chances or its reputation in general?
TINA FEY: Because of my real-life pregnancy, we don’t go back on the air until January. I’m hoping that Tracy will have, and the world will have, forgotten about that by then. He from the first has gone around very sincerely and done his best to try to make up for the foolishness.
CARLOCK: He’s horrified and embarrassed. … Certainly if we come home [from the Emmys] empty-handed, I’m not going to blame Tracy.
DEADLINE: Will you write the controversy into the show?
FEY: It’s the kind of story that even if it happened to someone else, we would probably turn it into a Tracy story. So we may use it.
DEADLINE: Is this going to be Alec Baldwin’s last season?
FEY: You know, we’re going to keep talking to him. I think he’s a person who talks sometimes and changes his mind, like any person. But we are going to keep talking to him, and as soon as I know, I will let you know.
MCCARTHY: We are going to make him change his mind.
DEADLINE: Are people gunning for 30 Rock since it’s been on the air since 2006?
TINA FEY: It’s like you’re reading something harshly critical about the show, and you go: ‘This isn’t even a writer, this is an Internet poster,’ and you have to separate yourself. Having worked at Saturday Night Live, you ride the cycle of, ‘We’re discovering it, we hate it, it’s the worst it’s ever been, it’s coming back, we’re rediscovering it.’ You ride that Ferris wheel for years there. It’s a perception that is inevitable, and you just keep doing your work.
ROBERT CARLOCK: We just want Beth to win.
DEADLINE: I know you are lobbying for Beth, but don’t you want the series to win, too?
CARLOCK: We just like to get dressed up and have a drink in a limo, too, so we’ll take all of it.
DEADLINE: Beth, how many times have you been nominated for an Emmy?
MCCARTHY: I think, like, seven. And I will graciously lose again to an episode of Modern Family.
FEY: Because that [mockumentary] style is so hard to shoot.
MCCARTHY: But you know what? I will say I love my category this year. I love all the directors that were nominated this year. There was no, like, ‘huh?’ Everybody is great.
CARLOCK: If somebody beats you, Beth, we’re going to do a live show next year and make them direct it.
DEADLINE: Why did you decide to do a live episode?
FEY: We had done a live episode on stage during the writers’ strike as a fundraiser for our crew. It was very exciting and fun for the actors to have any kind of audience feedback because a lot of us are accustomed to that from other things, like Saturday Night Live. You don’t have a lot of that in single-camera shows. And then we had talked for years about doing it.
CARLOCK: We’ve wanted to crack it for a while, especially with this cast and its theater and improv background. We never wanted it to not feel like the show, which was going to be hard with the fast pace and cutaways and all of that. Fortunately we had Beth to be able to execute it.
BETH MCCARTHY: I usually have to watch 30 Rock twice to get all the jokes – there is a pace that adds to the humor of the show. It’s fairly hard when you’re live to be able to do that quick kind of dialogue and not fall flat on your face.
DEADLINE: Is that because you don’t have the luxury of editing later?
MCCARTHY: Yes. It was crazy. We had seven cameras, but we had a lot of sets and a lot of places. And there were 108 camera shots before the first commercial break.
DEADLINE: Did anything go wrong?
CARLOCK: We went into the first-act break about a minute and a half over. So our old SNL pros, Tina and Alec Baldwin just spoke faster.
DEADLINE: I understand there was also a practical reason for the decision to do a live episode this season – a time crunch.
MCCARTHY: We had an earlier premiere date than we’ve ever had. … We shoot an episode in five or six days and have maybe 21 days to edit the episode, score it, finish it, fix it, and deliver it to the network. In the fall last year that was crunched down to about 12 days or 14 days per episode. For this, there was no post. It didn’t have to be edited. It bought us a week of time to work on the episode that followed it.
DEADLINE: We ran a story on Deadline before the Emmy nominations about which episodes comedy and drama series were submitting for consideration, and, judging from the comments, many readers didn’t think this one was your funniest.
FEY: I think what people are reacting to is that it feels different. From a script point of view, the page count is shorter. The live audience who were in attendance enjoyed it enormously. I think it inevitably just has a different feel to it, and a different kind of joke style. If we ever do it again, maybe we’ll take another step writing-wise toward have the joke style match exactly. But I think there’s a lot of Internet complainers.
DEADLINE: Did you decide to do something different to keep the show fresh after all these years?
MCCARTHY: At 103 episodes, I think it’s OK to take a risk and say, this one is going to be different … and instead of just doing [something] like a clip show that would actually make it easier on ourselves, we always seem to find things that are actually harder than doing the regular show.
DEADLINE: Finally, Tina, are you rooting for Sarah Palin to run for president in 2012?
FEY: I will be very surprised … but I am ready. I know you can’t see me [by phone], but I have the wig on right now.
CARLOCK: Stolen from the Smithsonian.


Why they chose that episode is beyond me. The whole season was meh at best but that particular episode was bad.
30 Rock seriously needs to rethink its staffing… these last two seasons have been terrible.
i don’t understend the hate for “30 R live”! i really liked that episode. It was quite exciting experience for me as a viewer. Kudos to McCarthy, she did a brilliant job.
Kudos to Tina,
Writer, producer, actress, movie here & there, Mom. Does this girl sleep?
I agree, she is a goddess of our planet, our SuperHero!
Their best episode was Queen of Jordan and they didn’t even submit the thing for the 6 episodes for Best Comedy Series. That was a dumb move. We know they won’t win again, but they still should compete with their best and show they still have it (because they do).
Queen of Jordan was funnier and better executed than many of the tapes submitted by the two frontrunners Glee and MF….maybe not by the deserved winner P&R, but still.
And they should’ve pushed harder for Sherri Shepard and that Guest Actress Nomination, she’s the deserved winner this year out of any show.
Best ep was the MOM show, when Alec put money in Jenna’s mom boobs…..best, best…rob reiner scripts are the BEST ones…
Personally I loved the live episode. I agree with Beth all the nominees were strong this year. My 2 faves were the 30 Rock Live and the Modern Family Halloween show.
People who write opinions on the Internet are mostly going to trash you, no surprise there. So I beg to differ.
its funny how they write off internet criticism as internet complainers, but any internet love they get turns into bragging rights. you cant have it both ways, if you take our love, you must accept our criticism. A down year is a down year, come back stronger next season.
Loved the live episode, especially knowing how difficult it was to pull off. I think if people realized the skill required to do it they would have appreciated it more, but it’s easy to sit back in your seat and judge. Even not factoring the difficulty angle in, thought it was very funny.
It wasn’t a down year, it was a f*&ing great year.
You have to watch a 30 Rock episode twice; trust me, you’re not the genius who can get it all in one viewing. This was especially true of the live episode — if you didn’t DVR it and watch it again, or watch it on nbc’s website (where you could see both coast’s episodes) then there was no way you got all the jokes and could fully appreciate the accomplishment.
I’m not a snob, just saying that in the DVR era when you watch a show twice that is really smart and dense, like 30 Rock and Mad Men, you really appreciate it more.
But I do agree with the above poster that the Queen of Jordan episode was GREAT, especially if you watch the Real Housewives of New Jersey (yes, I do, I admit it).
I love to watch my favorite shows multiple times, but that shouldn’t suggest that i have to watch it twice to get the jokes. 30 Rock has been my favorite show since season 1, which is why I know it was a down year. Tina had a lot on her plate, with the pregnancy and and the book and movies and whatever. Its still a good show and it can get better.
I’m with Internet Complainer. Something wasn’t quite right with the last series. I’m a huge fan but I was starting to get annoyed with it. Felt that it was starting to jump the shark a bit too much. Going to give it a couple of eps next season to see if it’s worth hanging around for anymore. Which breaks my heart because I adore Tina Fey
I didn’t think the Live episode(s) was bad AT ALL. I loved it. I loved the feel of it. The jokes were, for me, just as funny as in any other episode.
I think Beth deserves the award because they/she pulled it off! To turn a single-camera episode into a live show and having to try to make it seem like it’s the same show must be hard and they/she pulled it off.
It didn’t feel like SNL, it felt like 30 Rock. Good ol’, awesome, 30 Rock.
the 30 Rock live episode RULED! They totally pulled of an amazing challenge. And, may I say, Julia Louise Dreyfus smashing that coffee pot over Lutz’ head was classic physical comedy at it’s best.
I challenge any of these internet whiners to write a better episode.
I Loved the Live Show! It was Hilarious! Beth definitely deserves to win! I think Tina Does too! This was one on 30 Rock’s best seasons!
I do not understand how anyone can complain about this past season of 30 Rock. Season four was a bit of a mess but I thought they came back so strong in season five and did some of their most unique and funniest episodes. It was certainly the funniest of all the series nominated for Best Comedy.
Lame shot by Fey at mockumentary directors. Just my opinion, but the directors at Modern Family, The Office, Parks & Rec and even This is Spinal Tap probably worked pretty damn hard to make it look so easy.
Even an “average” 30 Rock is five times funnier than almost any other sitcom. It is so smart and funny and clever. The writing and acting are superb. And yes, after 103 episodes, you are going to have some stinkers in the lot.
I thought the Live episode was amazing; hilarious, witty, and fast-paced – as 30 Rock always is. But you’re right Tina, it doesn’t matter what internet haters say, 80% of the time they’ve barely watch 2 minutes of your amazing show.
It seems celebrities dismiss as “internet complainers” any viewer who doesn’t consistently kiss ass and fawn over how OMG Great! their show is.
Sometimes it’s just people being honest, Tina. Newsflash! the 2011 SNL season was garbage compared to SNL in the ’70s and ’80s.
Modern Family will easily win for Best Comedy Series. Glee is already fading, and 30 Rock is an afterthought. Without Baldwin, the show is unwatchable. And don’t even get me started about those test pattern ratings the show garners.
It’s true about the Queen of Jordan episode being one of their best of the last couple of seasons. Normally, I’m not a fan of Sherri Shepherd or The View but she is so funny on 30 Rock {“Haaaaaam!”) that I actually forget that it’s the same Sherri Shepherd.
Funny, I’m a huge 30Rock fan, but did not like the live show at all. I like so much better when they travel to Boston, or out on the streets of New York and show us, the homeviewers the sites and sounds of the cities….
I love the studio inside work also, and like the editing..I think editing should get a Emmy along with Jeff Richmond for sound/music….
I watch all the eps and like the way Tina acts….she is the best funny actor and I’d like to see her host SNL again….
I liked the live show’s writing, but I hear it costs alot to produce the tv show that way on the stage of SNL..It must have been fun to be there inthe audience…
I’m sure it was hard to direct, and this show should win all the EMMY’s it’s nominated for….
I hope the show last’s a decade, people will learn to love it, especially now, since it will be on 5 days a week in many cities.
Everything Tina Fey and Alec Baldwin stars in turns to GOLD…
It’s Complicated turning a script into a series, and Lorne Michaels always knows what he’s doing…A superhero in our times…
I adore tina fey, she is awesome. The live show wasnt bad at all. With everything going like the book, the movie, and being a mom, I think it is pretty impressive she could pull something like that off.