Ray Richmond is contributing to Deadline’s coverage of TCA.
If viewers of the ABC fairy tale drama Once Upon a Time note certain unmistakable references to a certain iconic ABC show called Lost while watching the pilot, it won’t be much of an accident, critics attending TCA were assured this afternoon during a Once Upon a Time panel. The co-creators and showrunners of the new series, Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz, were Lost staff writers who grew to become executive producers by that show’s final two seasons. And they made no secret of packing the Time kickoff with homages to their former show. “We can’t help ourselves,” Horowitz admitted. Horowitz and Kitsis, who also wrote the feature Tron: Legacy, also employed their Lost boss Damon Lindelof as an adviser on the pilot. “Damon has been a godfather to us,” Kitsis said. “He’s one of our closest friends. And when we first kind of sold the show to ABC, and they said, ‘Great, do an outline,’ we were like, ‘What do we do?’ We immediately went to Damon’s couch and started crying. So, I mean, his name is not on this show, but he’s in the DNA of it. But he also really wants it to be our show, so sometimes he helps and sometimes he gives us tough love.”
In addition to Lost, the Once Upon a Time team also faced the inevitable comparisons to Bill Willingham’s Fables comic-book series. Kitsis maintained that, while the two projects play “in the same playground, we feel we’re telling a different story.” First off, Willingham “is probably more talented than we are,” he said. “If we get a 10th of the people who liked that, we’d be very happy.”
Later in the panel, 11-year-old star Jared Gilmore was asked about how familiar he was with the original fairy tales being fractured on Once Upon a Time. “I’m really familiar with fairy tales,” the lad said. “When I was a kid …” That’s all Gilmore was able to get out before the room busted up in laughter. Frustrated, he quickly corrected, “No, no, I mean when I was younger I read a lot of them!”


Have they acknowledged they lifted the concept from the Fables graphic novel series that was shopped as a tv series at ABC last year?
Yes. Because if anyone writes a story about fairy tale characters in modern times it must be a rip-off of FABLES because…. well, because I guess you read FABLES.
Apparently some people think that because Fables is the first and possibly only thing they’ve read with this idea, anything else that comes after it must be a ripoff.
Forget about all the comics, novels, movies and TV shows that actually came out before Fables did in 2002 that had similar ideas.
Of course those things don’t come into play because those people didn’t read them, so they don’t count.
Even Bill Willingham himself will tell you he got the inspiration for Fables from some of his earlier works as well as other stories.
But, those people don’t care and will continue saying Once Upon A Time, Grimm and anything else that comes out after Fables is ripping Fables off.
Or, as I think of it these days…
“People know what they know, and assume that’s all there is to know.”
Well, having read both, let’s just say that it would be an unnecessary insult to compare this drivel to Willingham’s wonderful graphic series.
As if fables was original to begin with. Besides, no one has ever heard of that. But this show looks like fun!
Let’s hope the show doesn’t become like fables: something audiences don’t care about.
Besides, all the critics who has also read the comic and saw the pilot said that Once and Fables is nothing alike. It’s kind of like calling Nikita a rip-off of Alias.
They already had the outline 8 years ago, tried and failed to sell it at that time.
An Endeavor now WME TV agent once told me: “It’s amazing how so many TV writers who reach EP status have zero ideas to bring into development.”
So why not just steal one?
The idiot fanboyloser level of dissing anything/anyone related to “Lost” in particular and JJ Abrams team in general rolls on.
They saying used to be “Those who can’t do, teach”, then it became, “Those who can’t do, review”, notwit’s “Those who can’t do, hide on the internet like bitter trolls and bitch bitch bitch about far more talented people than they will ever be”.
No one care fanboys! Go get wedgied by the local bully and tossed back into that locker where you belong.
bitch bitch bitch…
It’s better to write your comments ‘before’ the second bottle of wine or fifth martini.
It’s futile to complain. Once fanboys infest a site, it’s impossible to get rid of them, like tribbles. Anyone got a spare Klingon warbird?
and ABC said “Great…go do an outline” and these writers response was “Now what do we do”?? oh yes! besides stealing the concept…this project has a bright future under these morons.
any project associated with Lost, truly the most complex and revolutionary TV show I’ve ever seen, will spark my interest. i’ll see what the reviews are like
The “Lost” Generation of failed Lost Wannabes??!!
@Stephanie That part jumped out to me as well. I’m not very optimistic about the quality of the series when its creators go running to their former boss crying because they can’t even write an outline. And then to admit they’re way less talented than another writer. The prospects for this show sure do look bullish..
Eddy and Adam are two of the nicest and most neurotic people I’ve ever met. Every idea that we see has stitches of other ideas. Period. It’s in the way you tell it that makes the difference between good and bad.
Just be happy that two good people did well.