
EXCLUSIVE: Deadline told you a week ago that things were looking up for The Lone Ranger for the first time since we broke the shocking news on Aug. 12 that Disney had pulled the plug over budget. I’m hearing that the studio is likely to have everything resolved by next week, and can start rehiring crew so that the picture will be ready to begin production in January or February. How that late start impacts the Dec. 21, 2012 release date remains to be seen, but Johnny Depp will get to play Tonto (Disney wouldn’t make the movie without him), and Armie Hammer will be back in as the title character. Ruth Wilson, the scene-stealing killer from Idris Elba’s British cop series Luther, is also expected back as the female lead.
Disney has gotten to this point after a painful overhaul of the movie by producer Jerry Bruckheimer and director Gore Verbinski to bring to $215 million a budget the studio feared could reach $250 or more. Verbinski’s struggle has been to reach that number while retaining enough of the spectacle that made them say yes in the first place. The cutting process has included the reworking of deals for Depp, Verbinski and Bruckheimer, and trimming the production budget and the long shoot. That would enable Depp, Gore and Bruckheimer to re-team after making the first three Pirates of the Caribbean films together. The Lone Ranger is one of several huge-budget films that Disney’s Rich Ross and Sean Bailey are managing. The others include John Carter, the Andrew Stanton-directed adaptation of John Carter of Mars with Friday Night Lights‘ Taylor Kitsch in the lead role, which has a budget around $250 million; and The Great and Powerful Oz, the Sam Raimi-directed James Franco-starrer, which is hovering around $200 million.
The Lone Ranger is on the verge of serving as an example where a film comes through the budget scrutiny process with a construct that can actually make Disney its money back. More than those other big Disney bets, I think the timing of the plug pull had everything to do with the dismal results of another ambitious Western, Cowboys & Aliens, a film that is going to lose a fortune for DreamWorks and its partners. Having a studio waffle isn’t fatal, however. While the architects of At the Mountains of Madness, The Dark Tower and Ouija struggle to regain footing after Universal dropped them for various reasons, worthy movies tend to find their way. That proved to be the case with American Gangster, and with Moneyball, which opens today.
Sony Pictures’ Amy Pascal took the painful and radical step of pulling the plug on that film a weekend before the start of production because a Steven Soderbergh rewrite so veered from the picture she had greenlighted. We’ll see how that film does in a brutally competitive weekend, but the Bennett Miller-directed film got a rousing ovation in its premiere at the Toronto Film Festival two weeks ago. And Soderbergh moved on and recently topped the box office with his viral thriller Contagion. Some of Hollywood’s biggest names are in the middle of these greenlight struggles, and this trend will become more common because the stakes are so high.


I’ve already said my piece on the August 12 article……just saying…..
Yes you did. This is going to cost the Studio $400-500MM to make and market by the time it’s released. Wow
$400-$500 million to revitalize interest in Disney’s Frontierland? Well, that’s a bargain, by gum.
It’s going to bomb.
LOL!
I just can’t believe that people get excited about this crap.
Rest assured that even with the budget cuts this film will still be excellent for those with no cinematic taste. With that being said, I will probably see this one on opening day.
Funny comment. I’m not sure if you know why it’s funny.
I am still unsure if the movie can draw enough moviegoers to balance the 250 millions budget. I hope it does i always wanted to see the lone ranger on bug screen and it could start a whole franchise
They have to really swing for the fences on this one. With the economy the way it is now people are being really conservative with their dollars and time. If the story and trailer sucks, forget it. ‘On Stranger Tides’ — just had no interest in seeing it. Those trailers told me everything I needed to know.
I hope this script works like gangbusters because I like Johnny Depp but these days he’s just trading on stock quirkiness. I hope he has an angle for Tonto that won’t be so obvious and annoying.
People are being conservative with their dollars and time? Really?
Transformers 3: $1.1 Billion worldwide (5th biggest gross all-time)
Pirates of the Caribbean 4: $1 Billion (8th biggest)
The Hangover Part II: $564 million
Cars 2: $548 million
The Smurfs: $482 million
All came out this year, all got poor to TERRIBLE reviews, scoring below 40% on Rotten Tomatoes, all cleaned up at the box office and are in the top 100 grossing movies of all time.
Never underestimate the public to watch crap.
That’s irrelevant. This movie could get great reviews for all anyone knows. The problem is that there’s no reason a western (without aliens) should cost half that amount, and there’s no guarantee whatsoever this will be a hit. Pirates, Willy Wonka, and Alice in Wonderland have major appeal. The Lone Ranger does not.
Are you kidding? “The Lone Ranger” has no appeal? There are millions and millions of us “Baby-Boomers” who will definitely go to see this movie. If it flops…….that would be unfortunate, but still all of us who grew up with “The Lone Ranger” as our hero will still pay to see the movie.
This is great news.
What that team did for pirates they will do for cowboys and Indians.
Also so much merchandising available for Disney.
Hey Spencer, we’re in 2011, not 2001.
Talk of “franchises” and “merchandising” and “Die Hard on a Bus” high-concepts are no longer the guaranteed path to riches the studios developed going back to the eighties. Audiences are older and more discerning, and given how much money above the line talent demand to play in these tentpoles, today’s studio is more typically wading in a giant bloodbath after the release.
Not to mention the fact that there’s 5 acres at Disneyland connected to Frontier Land behind Casey Jr. that has been rumored to be ripe for a tie in to The Lone Ranger… As a guy who planned his afternoon around Lone Ranger reruns I hope this film isn’t a stinker like the one in the 70s. With the helmers attached I don’t see that happening.
oh Mike..gotta get in that Soderbergh dig…plus love the ‘painful decision for Amy Pascal’ line…
you know better…how could Soderbergh’s rewrite have been so ‘radically different’ 3
days before principal photography was going to begin?
Soderbergh had already shot 15 days of his new ‘take’ on the material with a second unit crew…
everyone at Sony…Matt Tolmach, Amy Pascal and Brad Pitt had signed off on everything.
also seems silly for you to mention the Moneyball of it all in a story about the out of control budget of a film with the Bennett Miller version of Moneyball ended up costing over 20-30 million more than the Soderbergh version.
He wanted to balance the film between performance and documentary
i think most of the things Johnny Depp does are daring, always looking to break the mold of film making…i also did not think Pirates was a hot idea…and ? so it may not be everyone’s idea but its worth seeing an artist have a vision and seeing that vision come to fruition..
but of course i hated Avatar and Titanic…so, my vision may not be everyone else’ idea of a great film
It should be called “Tonto and the Lone Ranger” at this point.
And isn’t Depp about 20 years older than Armie Hammer? (Kidding – sort of.) I know he looks young, but…
How much of this is happening because Disney wants to please Depp so he’l sign up for a couple more Pirates films? It’s conceiveable that even if this bombs it could be worth it to Disney in exchange for another couple billion-dollar-club-hopeful Pirates movies.
Jake, Not much…it`d be the same as shooting yourself in the face to save $$$ on a nose job.
I have heard the concept for this movie is basically, The Lone Ranger & Tonto meet Werwolves. This means a lot of computer generated characters. Another Cowboy Sci Fi like Cowboys & Aliens? I can see another Lone Ranger and Tonto, but let’s make it a Western, not this sort of junk. I’d rathjer see a low budget authenric Western than a piece of junk with a monster budget. Count me out on this one.
You are incorrect about the premise of the movie. Plain and simple.
It’s going to be interesting to see how Battleship and John Carter fare at the box office. Poses an interesting question; how big does a flop have to be nowadays to bring down a studio? Can it even happen any more? Or have the studios become immune through vertical integration, diversification, and offsetting risk? Would explain why they’re so willing to spend crazy sums of money on prosaic material.
Unfortunately, this movie isn’t going to be “The Lone Ranger & Tonto”; it’s apparently going to be “Tonto and the Long Ranger being politically correct”. Epic Failure as it won’t draw the politically correct crowd because they generally don’t like Westerns and Guns, and it won’t draw the Westerns Crowd because they don’t like their boyhood memories messed with…
Or girlhood memories, in the fifties I grew up on Lone Ranger, Cisco Kid, Roy Rogers and Dale Evans, Annie Oakley, Davy Crockett etc.
But as I remember this show was a forerunner of the tropes of rogue “cop” (ranger) teaming up with the prejudiced against Indian “enemy” to battle injustice and corruption and not only working outside the law but as a semi-outlaw. Oh, yeah, and secret identity.Themes that don’t sound to different from how Depp has described it.
To me they show the underlying solidarity between “libertarianism” and “liberalism” values that seem to get lost in the obsession about entitlement to self-aggrandizement that would have been part of the “corruption” that these early westerns were always resisting, besides championing the weak that the robber barons and profiteers were making their millions off of by cheating. Just sayin.
C’mon. It’s a Western. I love the genre, but there’s absolutely no fucking reason for a Western to cost even a penny more than $100 million in today’s dollars. And that’s *with* Depp’s typical eight-figure salary figured in.
But then, when you figure in that it’s not just a Western, it’s the Lone Ranger, which is essentially cowboy-as-superhero, it’s got even *less* of a reason for existence as even an over-the-top Western pastiche like Raimi’s The Quick and the Dead. Or even the underrated-but-still-not-great Jonah Hex — which was *waaaay* closer to the esoteric, supernatural black comedy version of Hex that was published through DC’s Vertigo imprint than comics fanboys are willing to admit — for that matter.
Heck, the western-period pulp-hero movie to make a comparison with would be, IMO, the Mask of Zorro, starring Antonio Banderas. Mask of Zorro cost $65 million in 1998 dollars and its sequel, Legend of Zorro cost $75 million in 2005 dollars. In that context, a kick of the budget up to th $100 million mark isn’t unreasonable. Anything more is.
What a shame. Why wouldn’t depp be doing moneyball or another great script. Depp needs new reps!
How can this be a politically correct version of the Lone Ranger with Johnny Depp playing Tonto? Native American groups should start protesting against this. There are a lot of fine Native American actors who won’t get a chance at stardom because of this insensitive decision. Jay Silverheels, who created the role on television, was an inspiration to an entire generation of Native Americans. And Disney could cut $15-20M out of the budget by using a Native American. (Yes, I know no one will go see it unless Depp is in it. But doesn’t it reek of hypocrisy?)
“Werwolves of the Old West”??? Really?
Like most here, i just don’t get where the $200+ Million goes on a western. Even call the above the line $55 Million for Depp, Gore and Bruckheimer (as well as property owner Classic Media), where and how do you spend the balance on dirt and horses? Its insane. Their estimator must have his head so far up his own ass. True Grit was a comparative BARGAIN.
And frankly i dont see the audience truly giving a crap.
If any have worked on actual productions, they’ll know how much money is written off as waste and goes into a few choice prod. and select actors pockets…that are detailed in accounts to be on the screen. This waste of money is going to go into some of those pockets and will never be up on the screen. No way a western can cost this much. Don’t care who’s in it. And the more this goes on…the more the budgets will go up because hostages will be taken and the studios will cave in, blah, blah, blah. Just won’t see it. Hope it bombs. It’s not even going to be a good popcorn movie. screw it.
This movie and I, we’re done professionally
People! For the last time: this is not just a western. It is a huge blockbuster with supernatural creatures and massive action sequences. CGI galore. Nobody batted an eyelid when Spiderman 3 or Charlie & the Chocolate Factory had budgets close to the $300M range. Why? Because they had huge sets, numerous locations (always a budget-buster, don’t know why more people don’t understand that multiple set-ups and locations will always cost more), lots of special effects, and so on. This is not Shanghai Noon! Yes, a straight western would never cost this much, but this is not a straight western. To make a blockbuster that will interest families across the globe you cover as many bases as you can. It costs a fortune, but that’s the nature of the industry. These productions are always a big gamble.
“Werwolves of the Old West”??? Really?”
No, not really. That bit of info comes from reading “news” coming from people who don’t know what they are talking about. No werewolves. As for the budget, I’m just assuming everyone commenting are filmmakers, who know all about how to get a film made. No? I thought not. We don’t know what the budget is…what we have read are speculations from unknown sources. I also love when people say they will hate this film before a single frame is shot. Used to, people would at least wait till they saw a still from a film, to declare their hate.
@Evan : The leaked script included “skin-walkers”, which are basically the Native American equivalent of werewolves. So that is a rare case where the media’s chosen label is justified.
As much as I appreciate the makers of this film try to include aspects of Native American culture in the Lone Ranger’s mythology, I think it can be done in other ways that doesn’t involve ridiculous supernatural rubbish in it. They put supernatural rubbish in the Pirates of the Caribbean movies and it ruined the experience for movie audiences, regardless of how much they made at the box office. I have a feeling that such a creative direction might ruin the Lone Ranger’s reputation too.
The biggest problem people have with this movie is that the budget is just too lucrative for its genre. Even the new $215 million budget seems too much for a Western. I don’t care how many special effect they add in! They don’t need that amount! We live in a world where it is actually cheaper to produce visual effects than it was ten years ago; for example, the Avatar-like 3D animation and landscaping in Planet Dinosaur – a TV SERIES – cost only £3 million to complete. All of a sudden, blockbusters costing hundreds of millions of dollars seem out of place, with no guarantee that enough “stupid people” will be willing to watch them. (Remember, box office gross is not a measure of popularity.)
My point is that if this is the direction the motion picture industry is moving, then it is officially dead and should be buried next to disco floors, polaroid art shows, and anything in the La Brea Tar Pits.
I have said this before, but it bears repeating. The Lone Ranger & Tonto are iconic heroes to millions of us who grew up in the 50′s and 60′s. Millions and millions of us will stand in line and pay for our tickets to see this movie. Maybe just because of a sense of “Nostalgia,” I don’t know. As a life-long fan of “The Lone Ranger & Tonto” I hope that the movie is a success. If it isn’t many of us will be disappointed. However, we have been waiting a very long time to see our “Hero” on the silver screen once again. No one can ever take the place of Mr. Clayton Moore or Mr. Jay Silverheels, but they have been gone for a long time. Maybe, just maybe…..a new team of actors will bring them to life for a new generation of fans.
@Steven Knight: I understand where you coming from. I also enjoyed the original Lone Ranger series. If it were remade “the right way”, perhaps I would go see it for the sake of “nostalgia”. However, the truth is that Disney’s new version is yet another step in what believe is the same vandalization of the Lone Ranger franchise that infected Legend of the Lone Ranger (which was so bad that I remember it only by title) and the countless cliched comic books from Dynamite Entertainment. There is nothing ‘nostalgic” in any of this; if anything, it is another way for the Depp/Verbinski/Bruckheimer trio to prove that they can make crap and still gross at the box office. I feel sorry for the other actors in this clown act who won’t be able to reintroduce the classic Lone Ranger to a new generation and who have also lost their chance to be in other, better projects.
Uh, Mike… you’re about $150M under on that “John Carter” number there.