Pay TV Companies Say ESPN Fumbled With Its $15B NFL Deal;
Ratings: NFL Kickoff Game Down Slightly From Last Year, Still Big
Anschutz Entertainment Group, TV networks and city’s NFL fans
are cheering today, but AEG is the most clear-cut winner. The California state Senate sent to Gov. Jerry Brown a bill streamlining the appeals process on the environmental impact report for AEG’s proposed $1.2 billion stadium near Staples Center. In return, the developers promised to build “the most environmentally friendly sports stadium in the country,” according to Sen. Alex Padilla, the L.A. Democrat who co-authored the bill. With the assurance of no drawn-out appeals on the EIR, AEG can start looking in earnest for NFL team that would like to call L.A. home. Politicians from both parties backed the bill, which passed the Senate 32-7. They cited the 23,000 construction and full-time jobs backers say will be created by the the stadium project, which includes a renovation of the L.A. Convention Center. The L.A. City Council cleared the project earlier this
month. Plans call for construction to begin next year, with a 2016 opening targeted. A team could come to L.A. and play in another venue such as the Rose Bowl or Coliseum during the
interim. A competing stadium project in the nearby City of Industry, backed by real estate magnate Ed Roski, remains alive. AEG’s proposal is considered more viable by most because of the company’s experience in building L.A. Live and staging major events.
It’s a bit counter-intuitive, but adding the nation’s No. 2 media market may not benefit the networks, or L.A. TV viewers, so much. CBS ($3.73B), NBC ($3.6B) and Fox ($4.27B) are all in, and with Disney’s cable giant ESPN just extending its deal for $15B, they are paying the NFL more than $26B to broadcast games (DirecTV has a separate deal for its subscription package). But the broadcast contracts run through the 2013 season and ESPN’s now goes through 2021. Most observers believe an L.A. team would not appreciably increase the rights value. With no team of their own, L.A. fans for years have been watching three Sunday morning and afternoon games, including all the marquee matchups. NFL rules for cities with teams can limit that to two games per week, and force a game involving the local team –even if it stinks– onto the air in that region. A major benefit for the league and the city would be putting L.A. back into the rotation for hosting the ultra-lucrative Super Bowl. L.A. has been without a team since 1995, when the Rams left for St. Louis and the Raiders headed back to Oakland. AEG president Tim Leiweke has previously said he’s had discussions with the Oakland Raiders, St. Louis Rams, Jacksonville Jaguars, Minnesota Vikings and the San Diego Chargers –whose stadium deal remains up in the air– about coming to L.A.


LA had and lost two football teams already in the last 15 or so years. Why does anyone think an NFL team in LA in 2011 would be any more successful?
The Rams and Raiders moves had more to do with ownership than fan base/support. You will see a huge swoon to whatever team moves to LA and it will make loads of cash for many businesses and employee over five hundred people.
That’s a very logical question.
But do the math:
Money, Political Opportunism, Greed, Ratings, Ego >>>>>> Logic.
Awesome to hear that more minimum wage service jobs are being added to the local economy. Between the 8 weekends of rent-a-cops, dozens of Camacho’s Nacho’s makers and people sweeping up those plastic beer cups, the CA economy is on the rise!
It’s nice to know that it apparently only takes a few hourly employees to run an entire stadium. The impact on local businesses will be big, not to mention the hundreds of “salaried” employees hired to operate a state of the art sports venue.
Sure local broadcast nets will suffer, but directv will see an increase in LA subscriptions and it may just be time for me to open that sports bar of my dreams because all those folks who can’t watch their favorite teams anymore will be going out looking for somewhere to watch.
The problem is that Los Angeles, for the most part, is a “Me-Me-Me” city. There is no sense of cohesion amongst it’s inhabitants the way you find in cities like Chicago, Philadelphia, New York, Pittsburgh.
Even when I see all the Laker jerseys and flags, it still seems like a bunch of individuals that all like the Lakers but would shank each other given the chance or display some sort of elitist snobbery toward one another.
Michael Douglas once described L.A. as having “No Soul”. Unfortunately, after 15 years of living here, I have to agree with that statement.
So, although having a team here might make for good business…it will never feel like it did growing up near Chicago and being a BEARS, BULLS, BLACKHAWKS, or CUBS/SOX fan.
So go back to Chicago! Outsiders shitting on L.A. fans is cottage industry.
LA fans? I wasn’t aware there was such a demographic.
Vincent said he has lived in Los Angeles for 15 years. By LA standards that makes him a native. And a good judge of the town.
Despite the fact that I agree with many of your points, as a FOURTH generation Native Californian (Yes. Fourth.), and on behalf of all other Native Californians tired of our state being overcrowded with immigrants like yourself who love to talk about how “great their home is” — GO BACK! PLEASE! DO IT NOW!
Vincent that is a ridiculous statement. L.A. fans are passionate about the Lakers, Dodgers and USC football and UCLA baseketball. Even Kings fans sellout every game and the Clippers have been successful at Staples. A football team would work here with good ownership and a state of the art stadium. Both of which we did not have when the Rams and Raiders were here. Go back to Chicago and let’s get a team in L.A.!
LA fans are passionate about their teams when they’re winning or it’s a place to be seen. See all LA teams (including colleges) for examples
This is absolutely true. People are finding fame, ala Pam Anderson, by being in the stands. Here in Seattle, the Mariners stink, but it’s a football town. So if you are in Safeco Field, it’s for the atmosphere, a place to hang out, play the big screen games, drink and eat. That’s why L.A. needs a new stadium with expensive suites, food, drink and activities. The N.F.L. is ALL about making money. NOT about pleasing the city. If A.I.G. can get it built then they are absolutely entitled to the cash it will generate. This stadium will have to ante up, though. The stadium in Dallas is the new standard. The N.F.L. will want to have multiple Super Bowls there right away. Jaguars are coming. Time to think of a new name for them.
I’ve got a bad feeling about this. I’m happy AEG can get whatever it wants, I don’t see how California or Los Angeles will benefit from any of the billions that AEG stands to make. I want to be the person in five years to be the one to say “I told you this would turn out bad.” So I won’t comment until it fails.
I have a feeling that it’s definitely going to be the Vikings who will move to LA. I think the owner has already got it wrapped up. He’s just trying to ease residents into the decision with this farce about needing a new stadium.
Uh, have you been to the Metrodome? It is a total dump to watch a game in. The Twins were smart enough to get out of that garbage pit of a stadium and as a Green Bay Packers fan, it’ll be sad to see the Vikings leave for greener pastures. I guess the Vikings will end up in the NFC West and we’ll get stuck with the St. Louis Rams taking their place
I don’t see how anyone in Minnesota could be fooled into thinking a collapsed dome doesn’t need replacing. What a disaster that was. And if ownership can’t make a case for a new stadium based on that alone, then they have no negotiating skills. The Jags are leaving Florida without question. Vikings are staying.
Just because the stadium is so called “environmentally friendly” does not mean it will be friendly to the fans at all. This will slow down the building of the stadium which will slow jobs to workers who really need it and will hurt the fans attending every event.
A lot of sports stadiums around the country are taking steps to “save” the environment but are only hurting the fans experience. For example a lot of stadium are getting rid or plastic lids on soft drinks and removing straws. That is not only absurd but it is silly. If I bump into someone with a drink like that I will have wasted money on that drink.
But this “environmentally friendly” thing aside, start building this stadium ASAP and get some more jobs going that are very much needed in this economy.
Your right… fuck the planet. Who needs clean air or a future, as long as I get my soda.
The stadiums are not trying to be environmentally friendly, they’re trying to be cheap. Why can’t you people read between the lines?
Oh, btw, it’s been proven in numerous studies that new stadiums do not benefit the economy whatsoever. They actually hurt it.
More taxpayer ripoffs. I wonder what LA will do when the last actual taxpayer leaves and only the parasites are left.
And I give the “environmentally friendly” bullshit 6 months. That will end when the ghetto rats take over.
@Charlie Potts and Steve:
Sigh…you missed the point.
Steve: I never said passionate fans of those teams you listed were non existent in L.A.. I said there was no sense of community amongst them as a whole. In other words, there are many Laker fans, but they wouldn’t think twice of getting in some scuffle if they looked at each other the wrong way in the parking lot. It’s the “I’m a Laker fan and I see you also wear a jersey too, but my homies will jump your homies in heartbeat if you don’t watch yourself.” That doesn’t mean tickets aren’t sold and money isn’t generated. Get it now? Passion for L.A. teams…yes. Common decency toward people who also support the team…no. Maybe the 49′s can come to play the Los Angeles team and one of our fans can beat one of their fans into a coma because they were dissing the home team.
Charliepoo: I would go back to Chicago if the Tv and Film industry was based there. I’m only here for the work.
I’m sick of people bashing LA. I’ve lived here for twenty years, and I keep hearing from whiny mid-westerners and easteners about how “bad” LA is. Bad? We live in one of the most beautiful cities in the country, with some of the best weather in the world. So we don’t have cohesion among sports fans, BFD. Not really something I worry about when I’m at the beach in February.
I was back in NY when the Yankees won the 2000 series. At that point, the fans were so entitled, they didn’t even bother to do much celebrating. It was “another year/another series.” Yeah, fans can be assholes sometimes, even criminal assholes, but that’s no reason to condemn an entire city.
But, hey dude, if hypothermia and going a century between series titles is your idea of a good time, by all means, laud Chicago!
PS My best friend is a Cubs fan : )
Keep the thug Raiders out… they should not be allowed to return.. we need to start our next NFL adventure with a clean slate…
Man. How many of you can continue to miss the point.
I wasn’t bashing the weather. I wasn’t bashing the beauty of the city. There are plenty of things that I DO like about being here. Your continued inability to absorb the premise of my statement is one example of something that I don’t like…idiots who cannot process a simple statement and just fly off the cuff with emotional responses that do not fit the argument.
I was bashing the “fans” who should carry a feeling of solidarity with one another, but instead, remain a bunch of individuals that just happen to be sporting the same jersey.
Besides, I wouldn’t go back to Chicago. It’s a great city, but–been there done that.
My wife is from the Antipodes. If I ever decide I’ve had enough of the industry and just don’t want to do it anymore. My ass will be on the first Sydney bound Qantas flight available.
Suck it.
Bottom line is that the NFL is hell bent on re-entering the second biggest TV market in the nation and with that comes a lot of loot into their pockets on all fronts. They feel 16 + years is enough but the key to this whole deal is which NFL team will be calling LA home? San Diego is a good fit but it would either be Jacksonville, Buffalo or Minnesota, and the last team mentioned has their stadium lease ending this season with negotiations stalled in the Minnesota legislature to fund the new building about 10 miles away. Raiders could also be a good shot, considering they’ve had success in that market as well and the Oakland Coliseum being a shithole that it is now.
Building a football stadium so close to Staples Center and the convention center is a bad idea. If there will be a basketball game and football game going on at it around the same time who would want to have their convention going on? Traffic I’d bad with no games, add two major sports, not to think of parking (might be fixed but doubt it).
I Would love to see my R A I D E R S !
COME BACK TO L.A !
PEOPLE OUT HERE IN L.A ARE DIE HARD RAIDER FANS I BET THIS STADIUM WILL BE PACKED EVERY GAME !
YOU BE MAKIN THAT MONEY !
SILVER & BLACK WILL ATTACK ANY OTHER TEAM IN THERE WAY !
RAIDER NATION ! DIE HARD FAN !
FORGET ALL THESES OTHER TEAMS PEOPLE NO WHAT TEAM THEY WANNA SEE IN L.A AGAIN !! THATS THE OAKLAND RAIDERS BABY …..