UPDATE, 7:40 AM: Did I say Netflix stock could “take a hit”? Let’s make that a left hook to the jaw. The company’s down more than 13.7% in heavy volume early trading on a slightly up day for the overall market. Analysts are lining up to take their whacks at Netflix: Lazard Capital Markets’ Barton Crockett, who has a “neutral” recommendation, calls the company’s reduced 3Q subscription forecast a “rare, large and surprising misstep.” And Susquehanna Financial Group’s Vasily Karasyov, also in the “neutral” camp, warns that 4Q subscriptions also could disappoint. Each 1M subscribers account for $11.2M in revenues and 2 cents in Netflix’ per-share earnings, he says.
PREVIOUS, 5:03 AM: Netflix stock could take a hit today: The company says this morning in a letter to shareholders that domestic subscriptions aren’t holding up as well as it anticipated in July after it announced that it would sell digital streaming and DVD rentals separately — raising the price of the combined service by 60%. Netflix says its 3Q report likely will show that it has 21.8M streaming customers, below the 22M it forecast in late July. And DVD-only rentals are way off: It now expects 2.2M subs vs 3M it anticipated. About 12M pay for both services, same as the July forecast. The company says: “We know our decision to split our services has upset many of our subscribers, which we don’t take lightly, but we believe this split will help us make our services better for subscribers and shareholders for years to come.”
Adding to the bad news from Netflix, Janney Capital Markets analyst Tony Wible reiterated his “sell” recommendation this morning in a report that says subscription growth could suffer after February when the company’s due to lose movies and TV shows from Starz. The premium cable channel recently said that it won’t renew its contract. Netflix “is now asking its subs to pay more for less,” Wible says. He adds that “the loss of content could lead to fewer subs that lead to the loss of more content.” What’s more, the analyst wonders why execs including CEO Reed Hastings are selling so much of their own Netflix stock. “Bulls often praise (Netflix) management for being some of the smartest guys in the boardroom. However, one has to question why these smart individuals that presumably know more about the landscape than anyone else would be sellers and why lower level directors end up owning more stock than the CEO.”


Not a surprise at all, and they should have seen this coming (at least in the short term).
The backhanded remarks made by a Netflix spokesperson at the time the announcement was made sure indicated that Netflix didn’t give a crap about what the subscribers thought of their new plan. Don’t lie Netflix!
Charge me extra for Watch Now and then lose the Disney-Sony content. Are these people nuts? It’s like McDonalds jacking up the price of a Big Mac and then skipping a beef patty.
And then the CEO keeps whining that HBO won’t let him have The Wire – even though HBO has it’s own streaming service. Maybe next the head of Pepsi will complain that he should be able to distribute Coke.
This is turning into an amateur hour operation – like a mm and pop videostore when pop goes on a drunken bender.
My sub is on “hold”….maybe forever. Memo to Netflix: Ball is in your court.
Yes, I put my sub on hold also – and will probably cancel very soon. I have discovered RedBox. There are 4 of them within walking distance. Yes, I can’t keep the discs forever like with Netflix, but at a dollar a pop – I’m not paying as much either.
Hmmmm, Netflix and Facebook – could you be – so 5 minutes ago ?
Netflix is dreadful these days — most of the movies are direct to video schlock that most people have never heard of before. I have no idea why I even bother subscribing…
I resisted subscribing to Netflix forever
And finally did, only to have them split the services the following month. It really pissed me off! Yeah- and the selection sucks. I prefer REDBOX or Blockbuster for a buck!
Because I cut out the streaming (never used it), I actually saved about five bucks on my monthly Netflix bill. I don’t know how people can afford to stream movies from Netflix anymore anyway considering all the internet providers seem to have drastically rationed the GB you get to use before hitting you with overages (Comcast actually drops you as a customer if you go over their imposed limit twice). As a Verizon wireless customer, my 10GB (at a cost of $80) would only be able to get me two streamed movies from Netflix and that’s it.
Yup your correct and that was a substantial part of my decision to drop the streaming last month. I am not sure if they even took that into account when making the decision to split services. If they did they probably considered it a negligible factor.
“…but we believe this split will help us make our services better for subscribers and shareholders for years to come.”
I would dare Netflix to try and come up with ONE way in which this split betters the service for subscribers. If you are a sucker — like me — and continue with your current bundled plan, than there is absolutely zero change other than a considerably larger monthly fee. Streaming still streams and the DVDs still come.
I only have my subscription still because the husband wants it. If he ever decides he’s done with it, getting rid of it the very same day.
Our last DVD was so scratched up it kept stalling and when we returned that one, our next one didn’t show up because it was somehow returned to netflix as undeliverable supposedly. And the only time I’ve tried to use netflix on the xbox lately it wouldn’t even load. All since our price increase – I can see we’re paying for improved service!
What’s Netflix’s value add? Their content metadata and catalog systems blow.
They’re not even counting the number of people who would have signed up with the old plan but didn’t because of the cost of the new plan. I cut cable the week Netflix made this announcement – I was about to sign up with them but with this stupid new plan, I said forget it and stuck with Hulu and Crackle. Terrible selections on those sites too but at least I’m not paying for terrible.
What’s Crackle? Isn’t that a candy bar?
Netflix streaming sucks. The paltry content is a joke.
“I try to buy stock in businesses that are so wonderful that an idiot can run them. Because sooner or later, one will.” Warren Buffett
I’ve actually been streaming more lately to see if I want to keep it. To be honest, I like hwo I can pull up pretty much any episode of “No Reservations” or “King of the Hill”. They’re also a good selection of independent movies to stream. Sure it would be nice to have the HBO shows, but it’s not that big of deal to me. What they do need to do is drop the $2 Blu-ray fee. I’ve only had a couple quality control issues in the 9 years I’ve been a subscriber. I’ll pay the extra fee until there is nothing that I want to watch.
I put my sub on hold for the first time in years. I switched to Block Buster Total access for a lot less. Now I get new releases 28 days before Netflix and Redbox, no up-charge for blu-rays or video games and unlimited in-store exchanges. I still have money left over to stream new movies on Amazon.com Instant Video to my TV on days that I’m feeling lazy.
these greedy morons should not be surprised. they changed their pricing structure, raising the cost of getting 1 dvd, and streaming to a level that is ridiculous, and what you get for that price is one or the worst streaming libraries ever. just plain greedy and stupid.
“CEO Reed Hastings are selling so much of their own Netflix stock” How is this not insider trading?
it’s publicly disclosed information. mgmt buys and sells their own stock all the time, and NFLX has a particularly beneficial policy, which decreases the cost of options on the income statement.
insider trading is when someone w/ private information trades on it or tells someone else who then trades on it. granted, not always promising when your ceo dumps a ton of stock, but also not illegal.
having said that…NFLX can do no right these days.
Yes, and most high-level corporate personnel have pre-set buy/sell/option dates written into their contracts to purposefully avoid the appearance of sending any kind of “insider” buy/sell signals to the public.
Beware. Trolls and morons be present on this board. Big Media has wanted Netflix to fail since day one.
Netflix is a fantastic service. A 4 at a time unlimited w streaming a month, and my membership went up $3.65. I can deal with that. They give me Criterion Blu rays and the like. That’s more u can say for Redbox and Blockbuster.
And please, redbox and blockbuster have more domestic straight to dvd titles each than Netflix.
Everytime Deadline reports on Netflix, regardless of facts, we get comments from folks trying to sound like average Joes complaining.
I agree. Anyone who complains about the value Netflix provides is a moron. At least for the streaming-only service (not interested at all in the mail service). For $7.99 we get instant access to at least 30 really interesting titles a month that I would have wanted to buy or at least rent. That works out to be 26 cents a title. What, are you going to complain it’s not 24 cents?
I am an average Joe complaining. Netflix has stopped caring about it’s subscribers. Period.
My wife and I had Netflix for two years, and we streamed alot (mostly British TV) and we got about two discs per week.
It wasn’t so much the price raise as the attitude that went with it. It was a big screw you to the consumer. So we canceled the day the price increase went into effect. Instead, we addded Starz to our cable package, and will download the British TV series off of a few UK sites that have them.
You can’t raise prices 60% (which is what our went up) and not expect a backlash.
Streaming is great but the quality is still more or less unacceptable. HDTV is now a minimum standard. BluRay is a visual standard. Add in that movies on streaming services are often poor transfers to begin or are cropped, etc. and the road is still long.
I would love Netflix to continue to succeed because they have nailed delivery and and end-user ease of use but they are only ever going to be as good as the content providers allow them to be. Until they decide to use Netflix to grow their audiences, and not just a revenue item line, things will get worse before they better.
If the studios each think they are going to have their own individual online delivery systems they will fail. People that pay attention or that are in the business know which distributor is doing what but the scale that is needed for any of this work negates that kind of thinking. We could use more than just itunes or Netflix but hamstringing them is every bit as shortsighted as flooding cinemas every weekend with 3D premiums for movies we’ve all already seen.
They only care about their stock price. A once cool company is now a Monster. On principal alone I hope everyone sells their stock and the company tanks. Or I hope more and more people decide to drop the service and take a stand against them.
This “awe shucks it’s still better than other services” attitude is b.s. When are we going to finally stop letting corps bend us over endless barrels. The consumer is in control here not the other way around like they think. Take a stand. Cancel your service. Sell your stock.
If they think it’s bad now let’s see how much worse it is going to get if the Postal Service shuts down.
This is what happens when you start putting shareholders’ interests over your customers’ interests.
I dumped my subscription this month. I could understand the jack up if they had paired it with some major shift in what they carried streaming such as, say, adding more content to the stream to get me to drop the one dvd out plan that I had. But they didn’t. There was still too many movies that I could only get on DVD and it wasn’t worth the jack up price for ‘nothin’ new here folks!”
While I don’t necessarily mind the streaming content (I mean, I readily understand that everything isn’t going to stream and there are enough movies and tv shows on there to satisfy even if they’re not the top-of-the-line type), lately I’ve been very disappointed in the selections of Blu-Rays available to ship. The first ten movies in my queue are all listed as “Long Wait” or “Very Long Wait” and it’s been that way for quite some time. Considering that I dropped my disc subscription from four discs to two (as I refused to pay them more after their price hike), the least Netflix can do is make sure physical discs are available to send to their customers.
I’ve been a longtime loyal customer who always sang the praises of the company, but within the past three months, I must say I’ve been quite disappointed and may begin a search for someone else.
Remember the halcyon days of 2006? You could use Netflix to rate and recommend movies to friends and family members, you didn’t have to wait 28 days for new DVD releases, and the service was less expensive. Seems like ages ago…