RBC Capital Markets analyst David Bank raises that intriguing question in a report today based on some back-of-the-envelope calculations. He says Fox has been hamstrung by a 17-year-old deal that limits syndication to local TV stations. “At the time, cable was a relatively insignificant contributor to major off-network syndication revenues; but over the ensuing years, cable grew to be as big an opportunity as (if not bigger than) local broadcast,” Bank says. But if the show is canceled, then the restriction evaporates and Fox can offer reruns to additional markets — especially cable or an online service such as Netflix. Bank figures Fox can score $1.5M for each of 506 episodes. That delivers $750M and with a cash flow (EBIT) margin of 60%, and a tax rate of 35% it adds 10 cents in earnings for each News Corp share. 20th Century Fox TV wants to keep The Simpsons going but is playing hardball, saying that it “cannot produce future seasons under its current financial model.” The cast offered to take a 30% pay cut, but Fox wants 45%. Meanwhile, COO Chase Carey has said that the company is thinking about the possibility of launching a Simpsons cable channel. “We haven’t drawn up any plans for a Simpsons Channel. But there are a lot of Simpsons fans out there. … It’s a real opportunity for us to do something truly unique,” Carey told analysts last month.


Who is the 17-year-old deal with? Their own network?
What good does it do for actors to decrease their salaries? That’s hardly equal to the $750 million they will make.
These seem to be two separate issues.
They need a way out of the 17-year-old deal. Who’s it with? Network? Stations? Would this entity rather have the show go away altogether?
Don’t get what the actor salaries have to do with this issue.
The issue (and possible threat) is that they may not even want to renegotiate the contracts because it is more economically beneficial to just shut down production entirely. So actors: take less money or we are cancelling the show, look how much money we can make if we do that.
Ratings are down, that means ad revenue is down, and so the show is less profitable with salaries the way they are, just like any business.
This has absolutely nothing to do with the Simpsons, and everything to do with Fox. They’re making excuses to axe the show to cut their budget because they blew millions on Terra Nova and other shows, and because they know that they don’t need new episodes of it to make money with it. Screw of Groening, the actors and crew, make the same monies, possibly more if they can find a suitable replacement ratings-wise for Sunday at 8. Nothing about their arguments for shutting it down makes any sense.
Man, you don’t get it. If Fox shuts it down, Groening stands to make a significant percentage of any new syndication money Fox can wrangle from cable. That dude still lets people believe he’s “only” worth 100 million. Puhlease.
Why not just renegotiate the 17-year-old deal?
I assume Fox would have tried that by now…
The actors get enough. Pay the animators more.
But the thing that apparently killed The Simpsons was this last week’s opening by Jon Krisfaloochi. Awful. Really ugly, bad, and awful.
John K still gets work?
PAy the writers more screw the voice talent
The writers get enough for phoning it in…AND they get residuals. Give THE DIRECTORS residuals like EVERY OTHER prime time show!!!!
Even though all the other comments here say that the writers haven’t done a good job since the 90′s?
Not sure how this statement of not being a sustainable model could be said with a straight face. This show is a license to print money. wtf??? That being said, making $8M for 22 weeks of work is crazy money. Even taking a 50% cut is still crazy money.
Does most of the money come from ratings or licensing?
I watched the season premier last week. It was awful – unfunny, unoriginal, uninspired. The show has been flat – some would even say ‘bad’ – for a decade now. Maybe they should cancel it. For its own good. Its pretty obvious the writers have nowhere new to go in terms of ideas, and even some of the familiar voices sound tired…
That’s a good reason to cancel it. Trying to squeeze a few extra bucks for the short-term is not.
No… Please don’t stop making episodes….
I find it baffling that the cast is agreeing to take a 30% pay cut, after their hardwon negotiations for an increase just a couple of years ago (and then an earlier increase, some years before that), when Fox’s threat to replace the actors was apparently quite real. If the show does continue,the recent increase would be more or less erased. It would be tough to argue that The Simpsons should stay on the air, for anything other than sentimenal value. Indeed, the show seems so much a part of our culture – the cartoon equivalent of the morning newspaper or the evening news – it would be nice if it was always on. And it always will be. In reruns.
They agreed to take a 30% cut in exchange for a tiny cut of the back-end profits. This fact was left out of this shorter version of the story.
FOX thinks the actors have no leverage, which is true, especially when you see that there are as many people who think the show SHOULD be canceled as there are who want it to go on.
Sorry I am sick of this show. I know the beauty of cartoons the charectors don’t age and thats fine BUT come on! They could of aged the childern charectors some what. In real life Bart would be over 30 and most likely going through his first divorce
You make a good point, but then you’d have to have all the older characters age too. So sooner or later, Grandpa would be dead, (along with Mr Burns, Mother Skinner, etc) and it would be Homer in the old folks home.
And then the show would have to be about Bart, Lisa and Maggie navigating their way as young adults and at that point it’s not the Simpson’s anymore: it’s “AfterMash” or “Three’s a Crowd” and it would be canceled in two months.
They should take a page from the NEW LEAVE IT TO BEAVER. Do a season where the kids are grown up. Marge and Homer are grandparents. Bart and Lisa both have their own families. Maggie is a twentysomething with issues.
They’ve done episodes with that premise.
Heck, they’ve done episodes with EVERY premise. It’s really hard to believe that the show has been in daily syndication for seventeen years, and it’s still on the air.
The show isn’t nearly as funny as it was in 1994, but it’s still funnier than 90% of shows on television. I hope it stays on the air.
This story hardly needs to be so detailed. If FOX is trying to cut the talent’s saleries by almost 50%, they truly want the show gone. This way they can cancel it without everyone thinking “FOX canceled the Simpsons”.
FOX doesn’t want to look bad canceling what is basically an American icon. The better headline for them is “Actors quit, Simpson’s done”.
Jerks.
I go with the PR angle. If the actors stand fast then FOX cancels the show and blames the cast.
They got some heat for cancelling “America’s Most Wanted” and probably want to avoid that kind of PR.
Personally I haven’t watched a new episode of “The Simpsons” in years. I am upset every year when they show the Halloween episodes in November because of the World Series.
I think it is time to retire the show
The Simpsons has been dead creatively for over a decade now. It’s sad; the early years were brilliant. The cow (don’t have a) was milked dry a long time ago and Fox just keeps knocking the bones together year after year for, I guess, a few dollars more.
This Simpsons have been on a long hard downward spiral for a long time, the early episodes are hilarious; however the last 6 or so seasons say to me you need to go. Fox can make a ton of money off of them without producing new episodes, so make room for something new.
“Make room for something new” ??
This is Fox, they have every opportunity to give something new to people. Their schedule is a revolving door of shows that start with a lot of hype and then are gone in six eps. (“New Girl” = exception that proves the rule) Remember, Family Guy got canceled and was then brought back.
“24″ has ended. “House” in its last season, and, ulps, “Fringe” may be as well.
There’s also massive amounts of dead space in the summer months to push new shows.
The Simpsons aren’t keeping anything new from getting on Fox.
I thought they should’ve retired the show ten years ago. Nothing against the voice actors it’s just that the writing hasn’t been on par with the the first few years of the Simpsons.
I’m surprised the show has lasted this long. I stopped watching a long long time ago.
Oh come on, last season was hilarious. By that rational they should have killed Family Guy 3 seasons ago. I’ll be p*ssed if Simpsons gets cancelled.
They cancel the Simpsons, it becomes Bob’s Burgers and Seth MacFarlane’s cartoons
The deal is, as long as The Simpsons produces new episodes to run on the FOX network, the syndication division may NOT sell the show to any entity outside of local TV stations. Should The Simpsons cease network production, the series may then be sold to any entity (cable, digital, etc.). 20th Television would also be able to re-negotiate its deals with local broadcast stations. Thus, FOX makes more money with The Simpsons dead than alive.
I can see another broadcast network offering the money the voice cast wants in exchange for “The Simpsons” moving for next (2012-2013) season.
Specifically, I can see the network whose logo is a multicolored bird.
One other possibility: Even if “The Sinmpsons” isn’t a regular series, could it return a few times a year as an hour-long special??
There would be some precedence: In 1957, Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz stopped their long-running “I Love Lucy” as a weekly series, but over the next three seasons produced and starred in thirteen “Lucy/Desi Comedy Hours” (five each in 1957-58 and 1958-59; and three in 1959-60) which continued the misadventures of the Ricardos and Mertzes.
Greed is Good…for News Corp.Everyone else gets screwed.
Theyll never stop the Simpsons, have no fears, we ve got storys for years, like: Marge becomes a robot (sorry for the Clipshow)
I wish The Simpsons will air on TBS in 2012 because I haven’t seen that show for a while because I go out for a walk with my mom and sometimes I don’t have time for that. I hope The Simpsons will air on TBS in 2012 but I’m glad Adult Swim picked up The Simpsons this year and Adult Swim will air in 2014 and I hope it will start from the begining to new episodes. Adult Swim also picked The Office and Parks and Recreation but it will air in 2015 I hope everything will be good.