The film and TV company had a net loss of $24.6M, an improvement from its $29.7M loss in the quarter last year, on revenues of $358.1M, down 21.5%. That revenue figure was far below the $421.5M that analysts expected. And the net loss, at 18 cents a share, was below the 13 cent loss the Street had forecast. The bottom line could have looked even worse: Lionsgate included the $11.0M it collected from its sale of Maple Pictures. The company also was able to add $6.1M from its 31.2% stake in EPIX vs a $19.8M loss from last year’s quarter. Lionsgate says that it suffered from “underperformance of theatrical films in the quarter” — where releases included the Conan The Barbarian remake, Warrior, and Abduction – as well as “timing of DVD releases which offset gains in the Company’s television and digital businesses.” The movie operation generated $218.9M in revenues, down 36%. That included $22.3M in theatrical revenue, down 71%. Home entertainment revenues improved 15% to $175.0M due in part to the syndication to Netflix of the first four seasons of Mad Men. Revenues for TV productions increased 21% to 139.2M. Home video and international sales account for most of that gain; domestic series licensing dropped 27% to $71.7M from shows including Weeds, Blue Mountain State, Boss, Meet The Browns, and The Wendy Williams Show. “We believe that our film performance will improve significantly and become more consistent as we release some of the potential franchise films on our upcoming slate, and our television and digital businesses and EPIX channel partnership will continue their strong and profitable growth trajectory,” CEO Jon Feltheimer said. Lionsgate has a 51% stake in TV Guide Network and reported separately that the channel ended the quarter with a net loss of $12.5M vs its $7M loss last year, on revenues of $22.6M, down 19.5%.
Lionsgate Blames Theatrical Film Woes For Fiscal 2Q Earnings Miss
By DAVID LIEBERMAN, Executive Editor | Wednesday November 9, 2011 @ 7:43am ESTTags: Abduction, Blue Mountain State, Boss, Conan the Barbarian, Epix, Jon Feltheimer, Lionsgate, Lionsgate Finance, Lionsgate Stock, Mad Men, Netflix, The Wendy Williams Show, TV Guide Network, Warrior, Weeds
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This has nothing to do with the market, the true “theatrical woes” for Lions Gate is the fact that they’re putting out terrible, unwatchable movies whose quality is no better than a $1.5 million direct to video film but made for $80 million.
Actually madsammy, it’s has nothing to do with the market and it has nothing to do with them putting out terrible movies because Warrior was an amazing movie and other studios have no problems getting great numbers on terrible movies (Battle: Los Angeles, Clash of the Titans, Just Go With It). The problem is and always has been that their marketing team is terrible. Warrior made $13 million while Moneyball has made $70 million. Is Moneyball 6x as great a movie than Warrior? Nope, but it was marketed 6x as well. Tim Palen and his underlings are some of the most egotistical, under-talented hacks in Hollywood. Yet, despite EVERYONE in the business knowing this, Palen has been able to bully his way to career longevity. He’s got to have some MAJOR blackmail on Jon Feltheimer, because no CEO could be as deliriously clueless and powerless in the face of such monumental and continual failure as Palen has repeatedly served up. The headline for this article should actually be, “Lionsgate Blames Continued Marketing Fuck-Ups For Fiscal 2Q Earnings Miss” but that would require Lionsgate and Feltheimer actually acknowledge how long they’ve let Palen go unaccountable. One thing IS for sure… Palen will leave Lionsgate kicking and screaming because even he knows he wouldn’t last until lunch at any other studio in town.
Whoever you are, I would love to give you a HUGE high five for this comment. You are absolutely right!
BATTLE: LOS ANGELES was a hugely entertaining picture. The audience I saw it with went insane on opening night. Admittedly, there probably wasn’t a college degree in the entire theater, but that movie worked on a visceral level.
If LGF could make (and market) an audience-thrilling picture like that, they wouldn’t be making excuses.
Battle: Los Angeles was a hackneyed pile of every military movie cliché (“I’ve lost the detonator!” “Give this letter to my pregnant wife.”) shakily stitched together with a dozen of the most indistinguishable “characters” and trite dialog (“They’re falling like bowling pins, man!”) to come from the screen in many, many years. It used nauseating shaky cinematography to create faux tension, something the story, acting, dialog, direction, and pacing were all lacking. I have no doubt that it was entertaining to some, in the same way that a shiny nickel is fascinating to those with, shall we say, special needs.
But let’s not get distracted. Even if we disagree on Battle: Louisiana, can you deny that most studios are often excellent at marketing awful movies to great success (see also Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen- the 2nd highest grossing movie of 2009 and I don’t know a single person who liked Little Fockers, yet it grossed almost $150 million)? Point being, Lionsgate and, more directly, Tim Palen can’t even seem to do that with a GOOD movie.
Warrior made $13 million while Moneyball has made $70 million. Is Moneyball 6x as great a movie than Warrior?
Bradley,
You are aware LGF mngmt ( God knows why) released Warrior to open on the same weekend as the College & 2011 NFL season opening weekend? It could be concluded Warror’s core audience was in front of the tube. Can’t put it all on Palen.
What about the core audiences for Conan or Abduction or The Devil’s Double or The Next Three Days or Alpha & Omega or Killers or Kick Ass or From Paris with Love or W or Crank 2 or Gamer or New in Town or The Spirit or Rambo… Were they ALL in front of the tube all those weekends as well? The answer to which is completely irrelevant because Palen and his team’s JOB (what they’re/you’re paid handsomely to do) is to get asses in seats. His sole responsibility is to get people into the theater to see Lionsgate’s movies and it’s a job he’s repeatedly demonstrated a shocking lack of ability in.
But, sure, not everything is marketing’s fault… whoever’s idea it was to have Warrior word-of-mouth sneaks on the Sunday before Labor Day (you know, the same weekend that NO ONE GOES TO THE MOVIES ANYWAY) was genius marketing. It takes a real savvy, out of the box, thinker to say, “What’s historically the shittiest weekend of the year at the boxoffice? Labor Day!?! Great… Schedule Warrior sneaks!!”
But I’ll make a prediction now. Next week, when The Hunger Games trailer is released, it’ll be an amazing trailer and get a fantastic response, the likes of which Lionsgate never sees on any of their other trailers. I also guarantee it’ll be the first public display of why they brought in Terry Press.
Bradley..You can’t see the forest through the trees. Your bitterness towards Tim Palen is palpable. Pour Soul.
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“that they’re putting out terrible, unwatchable movies whose quality is no better than a $1.5 million direct to video film but made for $80 million”
This “unwatchable” content/Library must be worth something. LGF shares at close to 52 week high. Oh that’s right it’s Tim Palen’s fault.
Lionsgate should have listened to Ryan Kavanaugh who has made it clear that box office is actually irrelevant.
Abduction and Conan bombed!! U don’t say!!! Shocker!! Clean out the whole dept. of course tv and digital are keeping the company afloat
“Lionsgate’s filmed entertainment backlog reached a record $550.1 million at September 30, 2011 . Filmed entertainment backlog represents the amount of future revenue not yet recorded from contracts for the licensing of films and television product for television exhibition and in international markets.”
Not sure if you’re commenting for or against my original comment, but Palen and theatrical marketing have nothing to do with the value of their filmed entertainment backlog. In fact it actually raises an important question- Why is their catalog so valuable and yet they can’t get those films to connect with theatrical audiences domestically. You couldn’t ask for a more obvious road sign to Lionsgate’s problems. If this was a game of Clue, the facts of the case would be: It was Tim Palen, in the marketing department, with the horrible marketing. But with Feltheimer, even after the envelope the opened and shown to him, he’s still saying it was Colonel Mustard in the study with the lead pipe. If Feltheimer’s not careful, he might just protect Palen out of his own job. I can’t imagine the shareholders are going to be understanding/patient with Lionsgate’s and Feltheimers failures forever.
They should expand old franchises; put out In the Mix II: Chez Mix and prequels like Conan First Class.
Give Lionsgate a break; these are the best movies that the lawyers and MBAs at Lionsgate could make. It’s not like they’re creative or something. Of course they don’t know how to make movies. They say write what you know; Lionsgate should make PowerPoint: The Reckoning in time for Halloween.
Agree with Sammy. Also, WHY do the studios keep using the same tired actors/actresses?? Get some new faces and new talent, preferably the pro-American family type, and you’d see a huge jump in revenue.
As it is now, half of the country won’t even consider paying to see a leftist/homosexual/anti-American (take your pick) celebrity on the big screen. None of it is family friendly anymore. The message in most of them is leftist puke.
Just sayin’.
We need them as buyers. Their prob is marketing.
But Hunger Games looks like it could be good.
Out of all distributors I’m aware of, Lions Gate’s identity is an anomaly. It doesn’t know what types of films it wants so it buys whatever it can get. Management at LG seems like they have a cup of ADHD every morning before being engulfed in LA traffic.