Looks like that “inexplicable drop” in Nickelodeon ratings from September that Viacom CEO Philippe Dauman noted in a November 10 conference call with analysts still bedevils the children’s network. Its full-day total audience was down 16.7% in the week of November 20. That gave Disney Channel its first victory over Nickelodeon since August 2007, when Disney introduced High School Musical 2. Nick’s audience of kids 11 and under was off 11% in September vs the same month last year, -17% in October, and -19% for the first three weeks of November. The reports worried Miller Tabak analyst David Joyce enough for him to downgrade Viacom to “neutral” from “buy.” He notes that “advertisers are going to want to pay for the lower Nielsen ratings, which could be resulting in make-goods … that could pressure ad revenue” in the current quarter.
It’s curious, though: When Dauman spoke to analysts early this month, he made it sound like the trouble at Nick was history: He called it “a short-term phenomenon,” adding that “I always believe in looking forward, so we’ll go through that blip, it’s not material to overall company and we will move on.” He also put the blame on Nielsen’s measurements — not Nick’s programming — noting that “independent set-top box data … shows meaningfully different viewership trends.” Nielsen has a different view. It says that its ”review process confirms that our measurement methodology, operations and related reporting processes are working as expected.” The Media Rating Council is looking at the matter and will present its conclusions to the companies next month.


This can be blamed on 2 things….arrogance and avarice. Nickelodeon has spent years flipping off the creative community and thinking they’re untouchable and that anything they create internally is “best.” None of their execs return phone calls. They never respond to pitches. They insist they need to own everything. They rely 100% on Spongebob and Dan Schnieder. Meanwhile, Disney has been actively pursuing creative talent and outside production for all their networks. Even CN is beginning to come out from under their rock and looking for the best content no matter where it comes from. I don’t wish them ill-will, but I hope this dose of reality kicks Cyma and company in the ass and makes them realize they can’t do it alone and they need friends (which they have very few of these days).
All that said… which I’m sure is spot on…
Nickelodeon has “toot & Puddle” in the mornings… which as a parent, I’m no longer ashamed to admit is my absolute favorite show on the planet right now.
I’m no expert in the behind the scenes working of their development departments, but in terms of their “Junior” efforts, Nickelodeon’s programming simply has more heart across the board. And their interstitial material is loads better than the blatant and obnoxious “Mickey ears” brand reinforcement. Should have stuck with Disney playhouse, the monkeys rocked.
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So… I’m watching too much kid’s crap.
Looking at this as a parent: my child loves Spongebob and iCarly. But I’m tired of Spongebob, and none of the iCarly clones life Nickelodeon is developing is nearly as good as iCarly.
I’ve only seen the Disney channel a few times, but the shows on there seem truly horrible. It looks as if all of the actors are 25-year-olds pretending to be kids. The shows I glanced at (I couldn’t watch them for more than a few seconds) seemed to be a million times worse than any grade school class play. No life whatsoever.
Cartoon Network tends to have shows that are too much alike, and it goes out of its way to kill off the shows I really enjoy (Symbionic Titan), but at least it has a lot of different shows, and the shows aren’t that terrible. My child often starts on Nickelodeon, but it seems as if, more and more, we end up on Cartoon Network.
Another factor: I think a lot of families with children are so broke these days they’re cutting out cable and don’t even get Nickelodeon any more. There’s plenty of room for the broadcast networks to get back into children’s programming.
Obviously you’re not paying attention to Cartoon Network’s line-up, because it has the most original children’s programming out there this decade.
I’ll be the first to agree with the notion that Nielsen’s measurements are not perfect (i’m being nice). However, you need to be a self-centered numb-nut to publicly state that the same system of measurement that has positioned Nick as a dominant force over the last couple of years has suddenly had a ‘blip’…a ‘blip’ that has gone on for a couple of weeks. Obviously, it’s been SPOT ON for the last couple of years when NICK was surging, but now that the ratings are down, there has to be some sort of error to explain this. Absurd.
A sudden and unexplainable drop-off in ratings at a kids network — 12 days after the highest grossing release in Entertainment history? Could Modern Warfare 3 have anything to do with this unexplainable phenomena?
Agreed — and the dysfunction has been going on there for years and years. How Ms. Zarghami and especially Ms. Cohn have been allowed to let the network flounder for so long is beyond shocking. Without Spongebob, where would they be?
They’d better order more iCarly or figure out an iCarly spin-off series. That’s the only good show on the network, and the only one that gets meaningful ratings.
I agree – they desperately need new creators and outside ideas. Dan Schneider’s sensibility feels a little dated.
Cyma will never learn her lesson until she too gets kicked out the door. Make your deals somewhere else. Viacom has been postponing their inevitable downfall for years.
I’m sure the good folks at Nick know what they’re doing, but it always baffles me how they handle their programming. iCarly is their top rated show, and one of the top shows on cable, yet they haven’t had a new episode in close to two months. Why would you go that long keeping your top-rated show on the shelf? Seems like they should be churning out new episodes every other week. I know they like making iCarly into event television, but still, it’s obviously costing them.
That being said, it seems like they are really lacking other viable franchises. Victorious is obviously a bit of a let-down for them. Big Time Rush is a hit. But other than that, where’s the next Hannah Montana or Wizards of Waverly Place or Lemonade Mouth for them?
It all goes in cycles. Duh.
Not surprised at all. This is one strange organization. Those I have dealt with are not true to their word, rude, unaccommodating, and generally show little respect for anyone. This is only from my vantage point, but to see this behavior repeatedly indicates a structural problem and not an isolated instance.
Nick needs to revamp/redo that Fairly Odd Parents show, for one thing. It’s pretty freaking unwatchable even for a kid. (Someone needs to strangle that screaming green-haired fairy. I’d pay money to see that).
Bring back GUTS!
Yes! GUTS was epic!
From a creative perspective, it feels like Nick is the only TV network that hasn’t benefited from a cross-pollination with feature film talent (writers/producers/creators). Top filmmakers are creating TV shows/content on just about every major network (and vice versa, as TV talent is breathing fresh air into feature films). Nick should broaden their horizons beyond Schneider and look for creators from fresh directions. Their content will feel more inspired and will help to balance the shows like Victorious/iCarly/Spongebob that already have a significant following.
Big Time Rush is shrill and manic like its over-rated EP Scott Fellows. Those awful Fred movies? Atrocious. Terrible. Dan Schnieder is the SINGLE most over-rated EP on TV, as are ALL of his shows. Yet, Nick THROWS money at things like this. Over and over, they just spend insanely on this utter garbage. And as long as they continue paying for this kind of ridiculous programming, they’re going to see their ratings continue to drop. Even kids are catching on — those shows are BAD. So… fire the current execs — hire new (and good) creative talent — and then get out of the way. No seriously, Nick execs — get OUT of the way.
Horrible network who treat outside production companies horribly
I just told my eleven year old daughter about this, and she answered, “Well, it’s no surprise. They need to put on shows that aren’t all from the same director.” And I asked who that was, and she said in a sing-dingy voice, “Dan Schneider!!
Their ratings are down because the programming sucks! They ruined The N by rebranding it to TeenNick and jettisoning all the edgy shows, only to leave us with Zoey 101 reruns on a continuous loop. They need to keep the tween crap on Nick and give us good mature shows on TeenNick — the kind of shows ABC Family are thriving with!
My kids want more Miranda Cosgrove (and less Tom Kenny…)
The article talks about kids 11 years old and younger: If SpongeBob is losing popularity then this is a crisis.
Paula Kaplan is only really smart exec over there. The rest don’t get it and are mean and arrogant. Dan S is not the end all and he know how to make hits but has nothing original to add and his ideas are now getting boring and bad. Brad Grey should bring in a smart agent that knows young talent really well to run this show. Don’t let Disney beat you guys.
Disney has been slowly changing things and they have hired some good creative people – and certain shows like Phineas & Ferb and Ant Farm – BOTH my daughter and son love and they cant agree on anything. Nick got lazy.
It’s because 90% of their lineup is Spongebob. A big chunk of their shows are rarely ever on and put on hiatus for months on end. Then they wonder why the ratings dropped.
What seriously is the loss of one network filled of hours of television that our kids don’t really need to see. Maybe that’s one way to get our kids focused on their own families and future. Kids read a book! Do your homework! Develop your own lives. These entertainment conglomerates are for the lives of those who run the companies creative and otherwise, but they are not part of your own. Parents get your kids back!
I watch a lot of Nickelodeon and Disney shows because I want to see what my kids are watching. Other than Good Luck Charley, the Disney shows are insufferable. The kids on them are painfully over the top and annoying. At least the Nick shows feel more grounded. SpongeBob kicks ass.
SpongeBob is CRAP. Cartoon Network programs like Adventure Time and Regular Show are more popular now a days. Spongebob used to be good, but now it deserves to lose popularity and be cancelled.
It’s simple really. The biggest money generators for Nick are animated shows. And several years ago Nick stopped being in the business of making truly original animated shows. Everything they are developing or that has come out recently are based on movies or brands like TMNTs. Nick has turned into what the channel was originally created to usurp — ad/toy/brand driven half-hour commercials.
Nick needs to take chances again (like they did with Spongebob 15 years ago).
Only SpongeBob is now former shadow of itself, and needs to axed before it’s content gets worse.
@justjoe
“They insist they need to own everything”? Then why did they start showing Power Rangers? That show is owned by it’s original creators, Haim Saban (and his firm Saban Brands) and Japanese production company Toei Co Ltd.
@Poweranimals
You’re right about hiatuses… naturally, Power Rangers Samurai has been a victim of this.
@FREAKONOMICS
I really don’t think Modern Warfare 3 has anything to do with this… under 11s shouldn’t be playing that game, and if a video game was to blame Disney and Cartoon Network would be suffering the same problem.
nickelodoen should thank its lucky stars that Dan Schneider exists. Spongebob is very old so the only current big hits Nickelodeon has are icarly and Victorious. and if you look at recent ratings, Victorious is #1 now over icarly-which isn’t totally fair because there are so few iCarly episodes. The point is, Schneider never misses. I’m a teacher (5th grade) and his shows always score big with the kids I teach. Big Time Rush did ok for a while but it’s been getting bad ratings lately and kids have lost interest. They definitely need some news shows but they should cling tight to Schneider-his shows are addictive to kids.
I wholeheartedly agree with Ellen Broer. Nick would have filed chapter 11 long ago if Dan Schnieder wasn’t there to keep kids watching. Victorious has become extremely popular very fast and iCarly is still an icon TV show. (drake and josh was a family favorite before my kids went to college)
Schneider is to nickelodeon as Steve Jobs was to apple computer.
iCarly an icon show? Really? the delusion is amazing.
Dan S is known to bombard comments under different aliases … anyone comparing Dan to Steve Jobs has to be a plant … otherwise, why would Viacom be in this mess to begin with? The problem lies in programming aka bunch of monkeys throwing darts at a schedule. Unfortunately, Allison Dexter hails from Programming, and has all her old friends backs. Until that problem is dealt with, we will continue see Spongebob all day and spinoffs of tired material.