

ABC Daytime president Brian Frons, a primary target of soap fans angry over the cancellation of the network’s veteran daytime dramas All My Children and One Life To Live, will depart ABC after the end of his contract in January, which coincides with the end of OLTL. The Disney/ABC Television Group will consolidate the development and current programming for daytime and syndication with the formation of Times Square Studios, a new division that will be added to the portfolio of ABC Entertainment Group president Paul Lee. It will be run by Vicki Dummer, SVP Current Series & Specials at ABC Entertainment Group, who will be promoted to EVP Times
Square Studios, Current Series & Specials. She will also keep her existing responsibilities of head of current for ABC and will continue to report to Lee. (Frons used to report to Disney-ABC TV Group president Anne Sweeney.) With her background as a long-time ABC reality executive and co-head of the unscripted department, Dummer is a suitable choice to lead Times Square Studios as the division will focus its development in the areas of non-scripted lifestyle and health (no more soaps!). The current series that will be folded in the new division going forward include ABC Daytime fare The View, General Hospital, The Chew and the upcoming The Revolution as well as the syndicated Katie and Who Wants To Be A Millionaire. Fellow syndicated series LIVE! With Kelly remains part of the ABC Owned TV Stations Group division. Ann Lewis Roberts, who has overseen development of syndicated programming for Disney’s Buena Vista TV, will serve as SVP West Coast Current Programming & Development, Times Square Studios, while Abra Potkin has been hired as SVP East Coast Programming & Development. Both will report to Dummer.
Frons will assist in the transition to the new structure and provide counsel to the management team. “Brian Frons has been the driving force in our successful Daytime division since joining us in 2002, and while we understand his decision to leave at the end of his contract, we’re sad to see him go,” Sweeney said. “We took this opportunity to rethink our business, and the result was the creation of Times Square Studios. Having it be part of the ABC Entertainment Group, under the supervision of proven executives Vicki Dummer and Paul Lee, provides us the opportunity to bring greater creative resources, development strength and operational flexibility to this key area of our business.”
Frons has been at ABC Daytime for nine years, for the past 5 1/2 years serving as president, Daytime, Disney/ABC Television Group, overseeing the creation and production of all programming on ABC Daytime, SoapNet and ABC Media Prods. “While my decision to try something new was not arrived at easily, nine years is a long time in television terms,” he said. “I’m proud of the performance of ABC Daytime over that time, and of all of the accomplishments that our team achieved along the way. I’m especially pleased by the early results for The Chew and excited for the launch of The Revolution, which will be one more positive step in transforming ABC Daytime for our viewers. I’ll miss my colleagues and the wonderful talent that makes our shows, but know they are in very capable hands with Vicki going forward.” Cooking talk show The Chew, which replaced All My Children, has been doing well in the ratings, posting a series of all-time highs in the past few weeks. Still, he will remain in the annals of daytime history as the man who killed the soaps on ABC.
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This was long long overdue. Too bad the damage has been done and it appears irreparably so.
I agree. It sounds like they of pround of themselves, and him(frons). It sounds like they think that once it is done we will come around. I say we continue to completely boycott ABC except for GH. Maybe then they will get it. If PP isn’t goning to do anything with AMC, and OLTL then why can’t ABC buy them back.
Because they’re not worth buying back?
maybe theyre not worth it to you. There are many of us that do care there are many other things to watch in that time slot. personally i wont watch anything abc has with out my soaps
ABC daytime lost my viewership, except when General Hospital is on. Bring back my other soaps and maybe I will watch ABC again. I am trying set up a daytime boycott of ABC for all of who love the soaps. it is a message that will be loud and clear.
There is nothing to “buy back” from Prospect Park. Disney/ABD only licensed the shows to PP, not sell them. Disney still owns AMC and OLTL. And after the bloody fiasco the company has caused, you can bet your bottom dollar it will NOT let those properties go at any price. They will be deep sixed even deeper than the original Disney animated films.
tell you all the truth i think this crap sucks really bad to take off the soaps the way you are doing this.i have watched AMC AND OLTL for over 25 yrs now yall want to take it off air,all i got to say is your naking one big mistake bc that new show chew,can chew on my butt its not worth watching or taking my time out of my day to see this crap.i want AMC AND OLTL back bottom line……………….
I’m sure they’re quaking in their boots.
if this topic isnt worth your time why do you allow it to absorb your time. I know why they get my time. To try to salvage some “daytime” tv from abc
ITA. I have boycotted ABC since they announced the soaps, although I prefer to call them “Continuing Dramas”. ABC is supposed to be a family oriented network, yet they took off the continuing dramas AMC, OLTL, Brothers & Sisters, and a few other nightime family oriented shows. The View has gotten weird and un-watchable. These women talk and provide too much personal info re their personal lives and have limited the hot topics that they were famous for. It seems they have been limited in talking about certain subjects by the powers to be. Also, their guests get 3 minutes of time promoting whatever, if they are not interrupted by certain cackling cohosts. The only saving grace of the View is Whoopi Goldberg who won them the Emmy a few years ago. No more Emmys for this group now. ABC – your saving grace is to keep SoapNet, reformat it. Soaps (Continuing Dramas) are not dead. TNT is revitalizing Dallas in 2012. TNT, TBS, USA, AMC, TCM, FX are the powerhouse networks that people watch.
terry whoopi is the worst on the show. she comes high, acts curmudgeonly, looks uninterested, has almsot fallen asleep on air.
ROSIE O DONNELL is why TV finally won Emmys.
whoopi has been sober for years and they won the Emmy 2 years after rosie left, u obviously been hittin ur crackpipe for too long cuz u have no idea of what ur talking about.
please see if you can get others to boycott as well, we need to do this to send a very POWERFUL message. if only a few are doing the boycott, it is not going to send the message we need to send. The Neilson ratings need to be affected, this how their ratings are done.
i agree with you i personally am in a complete boycott of abc & everything it owns. i call them everyday and the cheap m.f.’s say they thank me fr my loyalty & viewership over the years. makes my blood boil. At the very least they should sell rights to amc & oltl. just cause they’re greed and cant make enough profu=it. i believe ther are many forums that would love to have rights to those shows anf they would make a profit.
Isnt there anyone that we can write to that can help us save or move our soaps to a new station. I don’t understand why the public is not given a chance to vote on daytime tv.
I have lost every bit of respect for anyone who could takes away a family tradition by taking One Life To Live off. At least sell the rights back to Agnus Nixon so someone else can help bring back our family traditions. Quit being Jerks you lost us already by taking off our shows.
Give the fans a chance to watch these on another channel because we are over ABC
I’m irate at the Powers that Be over at ABC. I have boycotted the new shows and will continue to do so. I am livid over the cancellation of AMC and OLTL and now the rumors about GH being cut as well. I think TPTB have to be idiots to ignore the rants and the boycotting of ABC as a whole. ABC execs, your ratings are slipping, your daytime viewership is waning fast and will not recover. How can you be so blind as to think that the viewers would not care about you taking a perfectly popular and much watched show away after 43 years. Not just one show, 2 possible 3 shows that have loyal fans and are actually supporting sponsors of those shows. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see the trend, pretty soon, ABC will be box office poison. I am not watching anything ABC anymore — not even news or sports — except for GH and Once Upon a Time. Everything else on ABC I quit watching the day All My Children was cancelled. Oh, and ABC execs — there are millions of other viewers out there who are no longer watching ABC.
Hallelujah and don’t let the door hit ya!
Too little too late but I can’t deny I’m glad this misogynistic pig is gone… & should have been gone a very long time ago. GH is on its way out but at least won’t have to be bothered with his warped vision…..the triad of suck is all gone Guza, Phelps & pimp daddy Frons.
Now that he’s gone. Let us have our soaps back.
Dream on
My day used to be set, the View, the local news, the AMC; now I watch another network. I even asked ABC to remove me from their mail list. (They have yet to comply!) I called up the locl affiliate and asked if their signal could be blocked. With the exception of Dancing with the Stars, I don’t watch ABC at all! Thanks Mr. Frons!
Glad Frons got dumped. Anyone who doesnt care about the customer should not be in a client service industry. Then why would they put a reality TV pro in charge of GH programming. Thats odd. Too many people are boycotting ABC – myself included. That’s why they had to figure out how to keep some of the characters around, to appease us. Hopefully its temporary until they bring one or both shows back in some form. ABC probably won’t allow CBS, NBC or OWN to purchase the rights because they aren’t part of ABC. I’ll start watching GH, see how it goes. I dont understand why they can’t reverse the cancellation – at least on OLTL and combine OLTL and AMC into one somehow. I’d have been all for the online shows. But, I hear PP is still working on it with foreign investors. So that’s good!
This Article makes me Sick.
Abc/Disney destroyed OLTL. Frons, Sweeney…and Group. They just replaced Frons with Another Dope. They Don’t care about The Fans, They treat Their Employees like Garbage, (EXCEPT the ones who can Make More of the almighty dollar for their greedy little Pockets such as Frons, THE HATCHET MAN.)Disney, years ago, stop caring about People…And ONLY care about Money.
I Hate That company.
please fire mr frons,he has done an injustice to daytime soap cbs,nbc,and abc please fire him
good riddance. BF and his buddies(JPF,BG) destroyed the soaps.
What a pity that it took so long to get his arrogant buns out of there.Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. On second thoughts.
Hooray! About time Frons was out. He had no idea what daytime TV is or what people really like. Too little too late for AMC and OLTL. I do hope new EP and head writer at GH will help the show remain on the air for years to come or that it might air somewhere!
its horrible that abc will do away with every soap.
they said that the chew is doing well, they would say
that if what they want is success for the show, they
took away AMC AND OLTL is soon to come to an end.For
goodness sake leave GH alone and leave us with one soap
to be happy to have. PLEASE DO NOT TAKE GH OFF AIR!!!!!!
Really, they say they are doing good. The ratings say different! lmao!
dawn in philly, marcia:
the chew costs less to produce. so when production costs are subtracted from ad revenue, the show makes a profit.
that is why the show is successful vs amc.
its ratings are good: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/12/08/abc-daytime-ratings-for-the-chew-the-view-one-life-to-live-general-hospital/113188/comment-page-2/#comments
I know. I have checked the Nielsen Ratings and the CHEW is doing horribly. AMC had better numbers. I still don’t understand the cancellation of OLTL because that were #1 in the 2pm time slot for the past 1 1/2 years.
Frons should have been let go years ago. He is only leaving after destroying 3 iconic shows.
which is probably what he was hired to do… He did he’s job now he’s leaving…
Mr. Frons is certainly painting a rosy picture, but I’d like to know the REAL truth. “The Chew”, or as most people call it, “The Spew” has been crashing and burning in the ratings. The backlash against Mr. Frons was probably much more than he realized. I have a VERY strong feeling that ABC asked him to leave, but is making it look like it was all Mr. Frons decision. Too bad it won’t bring back the stalwarts All My Children or One Life To Live. And the timing of his announcement is all the more suspect coming right after One Life To Live filmed it’s final episode AND the Prospect Park deal fell apart. May this man never work in television again.
Have you looked at the actual ratings for The Chew, or do you just like lying because you think it supports your point of view?
Go to TV by the Numbers and do a search. The Chew is now averaging as many viewers as All My Children had last November, and nearly as many viewers in the women 18-49 demo — hardly “crashing and burning in the ratings.” And since The Chew costs far less to produce than AMC, I’m sure ABC is quite pleased with its performance.
No, they haven’t. The Spew has been running over into One Life To Live’s timeslot and ABC daytime has been spinning the ratings uptick at the end of The Spew as part of its ratings rather than where it belongs – to OLTL. This is actually now being investigated by the FCC.
Eric…I noticed that about a week or so into the run of the Chew, it gets further and further into OLTL’s time. I start my DVR at 1:58, and on a few occasions it was 2:02 before OLTL would start and there wouldn’t be commercials, like their is at then end of One LIfe which cuts at 2:56 or 58 depending on the storyline. Literally the Chew goes through the beginning of One Life. Tricky shit they are pulling. I have since modified my DVR start time.
Eric & Carrie,
So glad to know I am not the only one who has noticed that they keep taking more and more time from OLTL, not only that but they end OLTL earlier too. When “The Spew” first came on I had my DVR set to start at 1:59pm. I moved it to 2:01pm and then it began with the theme song, so moved it back to 2pm. All was fine with that, until this encroachment started. Lately, I fast-forward through the end of That show and it takes longer and longer each day to get to OLTL. I hope the FCC fines them for this. Tthe only thing good about OLTL going off the air is that “The Stink” will not be able to use Soap Viewers to boost its ratings.
Um, a fine for what????
To stop The Revulsion from cashing in on General Hospital’s ratings I have been hovering on the channel menu at 1:59 (PST). The moment I see that General Hospital is on I use the select key to change to ABC – and not a moment before.
Oh, and not to mention the fact that viewers who left their TV on during the noon hour in anticipation of watching AMC have been leaving their TV off since AMC was taken off the air. Many local ABC affiliates are now putting in their own local programming rather than the national programming. This has been another huge drop in the ratings prior to The Chew – a side effect that ABC didn’t realize was going to happen.
You do realize the “noon hour” hasn’t been programmed by ABC in quite some time?
It sure HAS on the West Coast. Get YOUR facts straight!
Sssshhh…don’t confuse soap opera fans by giving them facts. Their brains can’t handle them.
Yes, Miffy. Calling someone unintelligent rather than debating points is a really great way to win an argument. The fact that you cared enough to read an article specifically related to soaps and take the time to read and reply to comments leads me to say: “Hello, Kettle…?”
You’re the one who is avoiding debating the facts. You’ve been posting how lousy the ratings for The Chew are, yet you can’t seem to refute the fact that the ratings are equal to what All My Children is getting. Please point me towards a source saying that The Chew ratings are significantly lower than those of the soap opera it replaced.
Eric, don’t try to reason with a troll like Miffy. She has a deep hatred of soaps and vents on Deadline every possible chance she gets.
Frons hasn’t just killed the ABC soaps. He’s also axed shows at CBS and NBC. His hand has held the ax on about 60% of the cancellations in the last 20 years.
Apparently that is spot on.
Miffy…you must be one of the ones that is contributing to the Spew making the world a fatter place…The hosts of the Spew have absolutely no talent and they should be ashamed at some of the recipes on there. Bacon fat popcorn? really? Getting a recipe to make popcorn with a side of triple bipass is really better than our soap operas? Ya Ill take the soap operas thank you very much… Thank god this guy Frons is out of there too bad hes not boycotted from television forever… Have some bacon fat popcorn miffy its good for you…
The ratings are calculated by only 21,000 people. DVR/tivo and VHS recordings are NOT included in the “ratings”. AMC was a very timely show and having some soap time in the afternoons was an escape! There are PLENTY of cooking shows – i.e. the food network! The soaps are REAL actors who memorize how many pages daily??
None of those points about ratings are new. So….what, it was ok back when soaps were humming along, but suddenly it poses a problem because viewers have abandoned soaps by the millions?
Amen to that, sister.
ITA. ABC is white washing and patting themselves on the back. Isn’t it funny that when daytime ratings are released thru Nielsen or Arbitron, ABC never releases the View’s ratings? I have never seen the Chew’s official ratings. I do not watch any show on ABC any longer. I watch SoapNet to watch Brothers & Sisters which I did not watch in its official run. Good show. None of my friends watch ABC. Depending on what they do with SoapNet, I have been boycotting the ABC network since Spring 2011.
I have started watching SoapNet more often, but only in the early morning hours when they are showing re-runs of AMC and OLTL. I stopped recording anything on ABC when the farewell show of OLTL was aired.
I am not buying any Disney movies for my kids anymore
I am not watching or renting Disney movies online anymore
I am not renting Disney movies from Blockbuster or Netflix or even the red Box anymore.
I refuse to purchase any Disney merchandise for my grandchildren ever again. I definitely will not be taking any more trips to Disneyland, Disneyworld or anything else Disney. Disney has become NON-FAMILY FRIENDLY over the past two decades and I, for one, am SICK OF ALL THINGS DISNEY!
If you are boycotting the ABC Network, please also Boycott all things Disney until we get our Daytime Drama’s back on ABC or until they sell them to Prospect Park (who, by the way, I called earlier today to find out where the whole soaps online deal stands.). Rest assured, I was told, that Prospect Park has our soaps on a high priority list and they are doing a lot of talking about what to do and a decision will be made very soon. When I asked what fans could do, I was told to “practice patience.” I personally will be thrilled to hear any announcement indicating that our beloved AMC, OLTL and GH will be showing new episodes online (that is if ABC also cancels GH as is rumored they will do sometime in September 2012.). I beg all of you who read this to continue boycotting ABC and Disney and only tune your set-top box or your DVR to tune in exactly at the time GH starts and continue to boycott The Chew, and the Revolution. Go to their website and post your dislike of those shows. Believe me, their boards are a blank slate over there most days — not like the days of the soaps when the boards were alive with discussion for every episode.
Well, thats all I have to say. It is onlymy2cents.
I will never watch anything in those time slots. And never will.
The destruction was done by you. Well, maybe not you personally, but “you” meaning the collective public. Viewing tastes shifted in a way that makes most (and someday sooner rather than later, all) daytime soaps simply impractical. You can’t pay the costs to a large cast, writers, production staff et al when your revenue is shrinking because too few people are watching.
It isn’t 1980 anymore. People have long been scattering to other channels (not to mention DVR recordings and on demand services), and it finally reached a tipping point. That may be hard to accept, and if it makes you feel better to ignore reality, hey, go for it. Enjoy fantasy land.
Agree with you Homer Jay re the tipping point. Eveyone could see it coming for the past 15 years.
but there was the oppotunity to have the shows go out with integrity, especially GH and now even that is impossible. BF slams daytime even on his way out!
DVR and On Demand are precisely why soap operas / scripted programming are viable. I have to wonder how much DVR viewing was taken into account as well as how much additional viewing on SOAPnet was counted in overall numbers.
They are looking to develop programming for network daytime that is the same as what is available on every other cable channel out there. That isn’t the fault of the public, that is just short term thinking on the network side.
Now, if only Anne Sweeney could follow Frons out the door.
Homer Jay – DVR Recordings and On Demand service are all counted in the ratings. That’s why OLTL’s ratings have actually GONE UP by 1 million viewers this year – it’s gotten so much better that people have been watching it online and via their DVR and those viewings are counted in the ratings. Its increase over the past year also shows what a ridiculous decision it was on the part of Brian Frons. He has always had a hatred for the genre that had nothing to do with ratings or dollars made for ad revenues. He just reviled the genre and wanted to eliminate it from television.
His decision also had one more destructive element that has been talked about at websites such as this – the ratings for the shows BEFORE “The Chew” have dropped significantly. So much so that many local affiliates are dropping ABC’s line-up prior to The Chew for their own local programming. People who used to keep their TV on before AMC started were now turning it off because AMC is no longer on. This has led to a significant reduction in the national ratings for the hours leading up to OLTL and that means MUCH less revenue for ABC. If you don’t think that didn’t figure into ABC’s decision to let him go (and believe me, they are letting him look good because they don’t want to admit that he screwed up), then you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Like a previous poster said, “The Chew” is now matching what All My Children was getting in the same time period last year. And it’s cheaper to produce. Win for ABC.
Also, DVR ratings are mostly irrelevant, since advertisers aren’t willing to pay for viewers who fast forward through their commercials.
You really need to read more than one source, Miffy. There are several articles out there which show that one of the side effects of AMC being taken off the air is that viewers who would normally leave their TV on in the hours leading up to AMC now either leave them off and change the channel. ABC is losing money in the hour leading up to The Chew and they are trying to include the uptick just before One Life To Live comes on the air as part of the ratings for The Chew.
And it hasn’t been a win for ABC. Haven’t you read about the number of sponsors that have pulled ALL their advertising from ABC and sold it to other networks as a result of the backlash??
PS – since you took a previous post to insult me, I thought I’d let you know that I never watched AMC. I watch OLTL because I have a friend who was on the show, so it was a personal vested interest to me. The way this situation was handled starting with AMC and the OLTL was horrible and crassly manipulative. That is what has the fans even more up in arms – when people like you belittle us and think that we are somehow not intelligent because of the form of entertainment we enjoy. Insulting us does not add to your argument – it only shows that we have reason to fight back.
Eric…you’re a little misinformed in how tv ratings work. Ratings are measured for every quarter hour (15 min) A person has to be on a show/channel for at least 7 min inside that quarter hour for the show/channel to get credit for the rating. So if The Chew does run a minute or two over, it is not gaining any ratings from OLTL. On the other hand,they may be running over into the hour to catch people turning to OLTL to expose them to The Chew and get them to sample The Chew.
I am a OLTL fan, but the facts are clear that The Chew is a much better profit center for ABC. But we all know profit doesn’t always equally quality.
i bet its not someone lies about that sell all abc soaps to nbc cause i want my soaps back and i dont care what channel they are on as long as they are on
Anyone have a gibberish to English translation guide handy?
Consider this Miffy: You keep saying that the Chew’s ratings are matching AMC’s. Ok but if that is the case, according to Frons, those AMC ratings were the reason for cancellation. So why wouldn’t they cancel The Chew? Crappy ratings for both shows!!! AMC was destroyed by Frons, the writers he hired and the really stupid move to California. I will never watch The Chew and as soon as OLTL goes off the air in January, I will no longer have my local stations. I won’t pay an extra 6 bucks a month for them when I will only have 5 shows to watch on CBS and Fox Neteork. I will be able to watch these shows on the internet the next day which I already pay for. Yes, one of those shows is Y&R.
yes DVR and recordings are counted now because no one told people that if you fast forward through the commercial they don’t count. So now that people realize it they don’t fast forward through the commercials anymore. I have a lot of friends and fam that records them and watch them later that evening our have a marathon on the weekend.
Do they do that before or after spelling class?
I’m going to partially disagree here. Viewer tastes didn’t change, their habits did. People (particularly women) aren’t home during the day as much as they were 30 and 40 years ago.
And because you have strictly numbers people running a creative business who only see demo numbers, there is no thought into how to recapture those viewers or make the still-viable genre more acessible to younger viewers.
SoapNet was a viable alternative. Of course, it was owned by ABC and is also going to be defunct before too long.
These executives have been gunning for the soaps for several years. When that happens, less promotional attention is granted to them, less attention is paid too them and less effort is made in keeping them going.
So it was a perfect storm. And the executives got their way. Congrats.
It’s all about the money! This is all about cheaper productions and pleasing shareholders. And it’s all about treating soap fans as if they were all a bunch of losers sitting at home watching soaps, eating bon bons and getting fat. If you ask me, these network people are the idiots. They have no clue how many hard-working intelligent people watch soaps. They watch soaps to escape from their daily grind, to invest themselves in fictional characters for an hour or two every day!
Well, ABC Daytime can kiss me goodbye after Jan. 13th. I will be watching Y&R, B&B and Days from here on in. Never liked these windbags on reality TV anyway because they’re all about telling you how to live your life, how to dress and how to set your dinner table, as if any dummy couldn’t do this!
About freaking time it’s just so sad that he cancelled oltl before this.I’m so glad he going !!!
Congratulations Abra! So well deserved!! ABC/DISNEY couldn’t have a brighter star in their line up!!
xo
GH won’t survive 2012. ABC Daytime is clearly focusing on emulating about half a dozen cable networks.
It’s a sad state of affairs.
I’m glad to see him go. He’s done so much damage to ABC Daytime. Things can only go up from here, hopefully. GREAT NEWS!
i’m delighted but angry that its too late.
What spin they weave. It is so sad how Disney is out right liars to their audience and being exposed as they did with how they treated their viewers….still glad he’s gone.
Disney is a pathetic organization. The Chew is what people want to watch? What? I don’t think so. I have moved away from network TV altogether.
Well, it’s only natural. He did what he wanted to do by killing daytime drama, so time to move on to the next act of destruction.
OHHHH Happy Day, DING, DONG, The FRONS Is GONE!!!
Finally KARMA Comes, too bad it’s after Disney allowed Fronkenstein to destroy ALL of ABC Daytime
I only know one person who watches the SPEW! I won’t even watch a SPEW commerical…and I think it’s funny that they run over the last minute in OLTL time slot. AND I WALK OUT THE ROOM WHEN THAT’S ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is not accurate at all. The Chew has at minimum met ratings expectations
The Spew’s ratings have dropped precipitously as the weeks go on. Even more important is that the many viewers who would have their TV on ABC before AMC would start each day are now leaving their TV off. This is leading to such a significant drop in the ratings prior to The Spew that local ABC affiliates are now putting in local programming or syndicated reruns, leading to an even bigger drop in ad revenue for the national network. Brian Frons’ personal vendetta against the soap genre has destroyed ABC daytime in more ways than one.
Wrong Eric. The Chew is posting series highs, and has equivalent ratings to All My Children. Read about it at:
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/12/02/abc-sweeps-november-sweeps-2011-%E2%80%93-is-no-1-in-daytime-across-key-women-marks-network%E2%80%99s-2nd-consecutive-major-sweeps-win-in-women-18-49/112517/
TV by the Numbers is not the only resource and as I have mentioned in previous posts ABC killed the noon hour ratings because people don’t leave their TV on waiting for AMC anymore. And the uptick for The Spew has to do with people turning on their TV just before OLTL and ABC trying to spin it as part of their numbers.
Just you watch what happens to The Spew when OLTL goes off the air.
I’m confused as to what you are trying to say. ABC affiliates have long had the noon hour to program themselves. Some choose local news, some choose syndicated programs. I’m speaking for eatern and west time zones only.
He’s confused, to put it mildly, as well.
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY VICKI!!!!!! She is amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good.Now they should correct their poor choices and put those soaps back on TV.No one is watching those new shows… To be a responsible leader.. you have to listen to your constituents.mainly the people who watch..
Soaps are going the way of the dinosaur. No one is bringing them back to daytime, period.
Actually, they’re going the way of the TV western; once ubiquitous but now only seen in special TV movies of the week or miniseries, if ever.
Homer Jay – DVR Recordings and On Demand service are all counted in the ratings. That’s why OLTL’s ratings have actually GONE UP by 1 million viewers this year – it’s gotten so much better that people have been watching it online and via their DVR and those viewings are counted in the ratings. Its increase over the past year also shows what a ridiculous decision it was on the part of Brian Frons. He has always had a hatred for the genre that had nothing to do with ratings or dollars made for ad revenues. He just reviled the genre and wanted to eliminate it from television.
His decision also had one more destructive element that has been talked about at websites such as this – the ratings for the shows BEFORE “The Chew” have dropped significantly. So much so that many local affiliates are dropping ABC’s line-up prior to The Chew for their own local programming. People who used to keep their TV on before AMC started were now turning it off because AMC is no longer on. This has led to a significant reduction in the national ratings for the hours leading up to OLTL and that means MUCH less revenue for ABC. If you don’t think that didn’t figure into ABC’s decision to let him go (and believe me, they are letting him look good because they don’t want to admit that he screwed up), then you don’t know what you’re talking about.
ABC’s lineup before The Chew? In a very signifcant (population wise) swath of the country that is…um, nothing. It’s a local hour. Unless we’re talking about The View, and I would love to see evidence of “many” stations dropping The View. Details, details.
I also love the anecdotal experiences like “I know no one who watches The Chew” as if that’s in any way relevant. The last person I know who watched AMC was my grandmother, and that was back in the 1980s. Was there an audience long after that? Clearly so. Therefore, my lack of knowing anyone who watched a given show was utterly meaningless.
Yes, there’s an “agenda” at work–it’s called the bottom line. Older viewers + smaller audiences (vis a vis the height of the genre) = an outdated, outmoded business model. You aren’t going to get blood from that proverbial stone–advertisers aren’t going to pay as much for fewer eyes, so like anyone managing a budget, it’s time to make changes when the cash flow shrinks to a certain point.
Just watch what happens to The Spew’s ratings when OLTL goes off the air…
Way to ignore how your oft-stated line about imaginary programming in the noon hour is a complete fraud.
Helllo! Don’forget the West Coast. NOT imaginary.
You’ve been posting how lousy the ratings for The Chew are, yet you can’t seem to refute the fact that the ratings are equal to what All My Children was getting. Please point us towards a source saying that The Chew ratings are significantly lower than those of the soap opera it replaced.
I direct you to this week’s Entertainment Weekly magazine. Great article about daytime TV. The Spews ratings of 2 mil are less than what AMC’s were – 2.5 mil. In fact all of the talk shows’ ratings are less than the soaps they relaced. I predict they will go down enen further after OLTL goes off in January. The deciding factor is money, these shows are cheaper to produce. In the long run this strategy will backfire as it is driving viewers to other cable networks away from the big 3 ABC,NBC,& CBS. I for one will just choose not to watch ABC anymore which is my right. These “reality” panel shows to me are a bore. They are condescend-ing and ridiculous. “You can use dishtowels for colorful napkins!!” Big whoop–we don’t need to be bombarded with these inane helpful hints. How many other ways can Mario Batali show people how to cook a pizza! If this is what they have to offer they can keep it! FYI–those examples were from the commercials for the show–I will not allow The Spew on in my house. After OLTL is gone my set will be off or on a different channel altogether.
Mr. Frons, Don’t let the door hit you…you know the drill! I love the comment about The Chew’s great ratings. Really? Why is it that thousands of fans have publicly observed that the repeated deliberate “runover” of “The Chew” INTO “One Life to Live’s” timeslot has likely resulted in highly erroneous, IF NOT ILLEGAL, Nielsen ratings being promulgated as a result, duping in the process high paying corporate advertisers AND the public at large? The FCC Inspector General for Investigations will have a field day with that one, when they catch up with you Fronszie!…Mr. Frons, together with Ms. Sweeney and Mr Iger will rue the day they decided to greedily decimate Daytime television, tanking the network and the medium, further contributing to the JerrySpringerSnookying of what once was a great legendary, artistic scripted storytelling, entertainment medium.
Frons thought he was god ,and he destroyed the soaps. he can watch whatever he likes.I will never watch abc during the day. I am home all day and the types of shows they replaced my soaps with do not intrest me at all. Spew,and revelotion,no thanks.
Frons can say what he likes but I think he got fired ,same as all the actors and crew on these shows.Oh well what goes around ,comes around.
Homer Jay,
You obviously don’t watch ABC soaps or know anything about them. We’re living in an age of time-shifting and TV-anywhere. CBS’ the Young & the Restless gets almost 5 million viewers daily, not including DVR and web views. ABC soaps have those viewers. Why? Frons micromanaged his soaps. He hired a hack named Chuck Pratt to write for All My Children. Viewers fled. Frons turned General Hospital into a soap about mobsters.
Any primetime programmer who oversaw the severe ratings decline that occurred under Frons, would have been fired years ago. Frons was left to destroy ABC Daytime.
Where most TV shows are successfully syndicated overseas, Frons didn’t bother. In contrast, CBS’ Y&R, Bold and the Beautiful, and NBC’s Days of Our Lives are sold overseas and doing very well.
I’m reasonably sure those shows pre-dated his arrival. So where is the venom about those shows not being syndicated by previous “administrations?”
Exactly right! Frons ruined the quality of the shows, that’s why viewership for ABC soaps declined. Rather than take the blame for doing a terrible job, he blamed it on the genre, saying people don’t want to watch soaps anymore. No, they don’t want to watch the crap that you turned them into. And somehow the higher ups at ABC were dumb enough to buy it. If these people are so smart about numbers, they would look at the 5 million on CBS, look at the decline on ABC, and they should have realized that the quality suffered under Frons’ incompetence.That’s why the numbers went down.
Frons must have had compromising pictures of someone and that person must have just died.
I think Homer Jay works for ABC. And the viewers info is wrong to because I know many teenagers and younger people who watch the soaps including a lot of men and college students and older people and where they get that 49yrs from i don’t know because I am 50 getting ready be to 51 and all my older friends and fam watch them ABC is going to spin whatever lie they want to spin to make themselves look good. That is what they are losing a lot of Soap fans on their cruises and toys and movies.
Ah, the tired old “they must work for” tripe. As is almost always the case, wrong.
Just what I was thinking about Homer Jay. I am neither uneducated nor a lazy fat housewife. I do like soaps and do think Homer works for ABC.
Think it all you want. It doesn’t make it any less wrong. But then that seems to be quite the trend in this discussion: a complete disregard for facts.
Way too late. Disney allowed this man to destroy an entire genre. I stopped watching ABC soaps years ago when they made the mob the good guys on GH. Soaps are dead because idiots like this man were allowed to kill it.