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There was no elephant in the room during NBC’s executive session at TCA’s winter press tour today because chairman Bob Greenblatt shot it down right away. “We had a really bad fall, worse than I’d hoped for but about as I expected,” was Greenblatt’s first line onstage. “People say the only way to go is up which I believe is true, but there is a long way to get there.” The new NBC chairman made no bones about the network’s poor ratings performance this season, including from NBC’s new shows, which he blamed on a lack of strong lead-ins, an aging returning lineup and major cast changes on flagship series Law & Order: SVU and The Office. But “the good news is that we have new owners willing to invest not only with financial resources but with patience,” Greenblatt said, referring to Comcast and NBCUniversal CEO Steve Burke.
Greenblatt, who came from pay cable network Showtime, attributed the demise of some of NBC’s new shows to the challenges of the the broadcast model, noting that canceled Prime Suspect would’ve been renewed at Showtime after three episodes and would’ve probably run on the cable network for 4-5 seasons. Greenblatt started several sentences with “The beauty of cable”, playing up pay cable’s advantage with a smaller volume of shows that allows all of them to get a significant marketing push and cut through the clutter as well as the different cable economics that allow quality shows to run for years despite low ratings. Greenblatt said that in his first season at NBC he delivered “four times as many good shows as I ever delivered at Showtime” in one year, listing such series as Prime Suspect, Whitney, Up All Night, Grimm and the upcoming Awake and Smash. But he was quick to note that he is not sure if “these shows are enough to turn NBC around. I hope they’re the beginning of new foundation to move us in the right direction.”
Prime Suspect‘s failure to click with viewers “was probably the biggest disappointment,” Greenblatt said. “Was it too cable, was (Maria Bello’s character) too abrasive? Maybe I should say it was the hat and move on.” In the final analysis, it seems like “the audience wanted to be entertained with comedy and fairytales” this fall, “and there wasn’t appetite in the country for a hard-hitting cop show.” Greenblatt was more blunt about NBC’s other canceled new fall drama, The Playboy Club. “Playboy was just a rejected concept,” he said. “We thought going into the period would interest people, but I don’t think people were that fascinated by that milieu and place.” As for the high-profile midseason entry Smash, Greenblatt tried to downplay expectations. “I don’t think it’s a make-or-break show, but it’s a really good potentially long-term asset for us.”
Greenblatt also dispelled any notion that Community has been effectively canceled when the network pulled the cult favorite from its midseason schedule. As to when Communily will return, that is still unclear, but presumably it will be summoned if one of NBC’s six comedies on tap for midseason underperforms. “We have a really tight schedule with comedies, so it’s really going to be a matter of looking at what happens with the six comedies we’ve got at midseason,” Greenblatt said. NBC is not looking beyond Community‘s current Season 3 for now. “We’re just going to look at the success of what pilots yield, what the scheduling needs are and make that decision closer to the upfront,” Greenblatt said about the timing of the Community renewal decision.
Greenblatt also expressed confidence that the addition of shock jock Howard Stern to America’s Got Talent as judge won’t stir controversy. “I’m not worried about that for a second,” he said. “Aside from his radio persona he is a very thoughtful, intelligent person. He is a huge fan of the show and wants to be a very good judge. … I don’t think he wants to be a shock jock judge. … AGT won’t become the Howard Stern Circus.”
Later, Greenblatt addressed the situation with the NBCU-produced Fox drama House, which is awaiting word on its future. There are no talks with star Hugh Laurie or creator David Shore, whose deals are up at the end of this season, Greenblatt said, but the studio is considering ways to bring the cost of the aging series down. However, if Fox opts to cancel the long-running medical drama, don’t expect it to migrate to NBC next season. Greenblatt indicated that picking up a show “at that cost structure in this situation” wouldn’t be a shrewd business move.
Greenblatt ended the panel with another of his thoughts about the differences between cable and broadcast. “The beauty of cable is you could program for 18-year-old twins and get a hit show on cable,” he said. “We have to figure out how to cease up on that and not end up in a narrow place.”
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I love Bob Greenblatts honesty here. And quite frankly, how could he be blamed for this fall considering most of the pilots in development were developed by the previous regime.
RU kidding? — this guy’s so arrogant and full of himself he can’t even admit that Prime Suspect sucked…. Greenblatt is in the lucky club — but, as Mamet wrote, “god forbid you find out in runs in streaks…” Adios, Roberto…
I love Grimm and am really looking forward to Awake.
Does Greenblatt actually think anyone can take him seriously when he compares his NBC shows like Whitney as better shows than his Showtime shows back in the day. That is not saying much Mr. Greenblatt. Not saying much at all. If you are so into pay cable, then go back there and don’t make excuses except that you simply chose bad shows. NBC is just a total wasteland. Always will be if they keep hiring the wrong people and making the wrong shows. Very simple stuff.
Bob knows the writing on Whitney is the worst on television.
(I actually adore Whitney’s comedy, but yes, her writers are atrocious.)
But what do you expect the man to say?
Well, if he doesn’t understand that Grimm is going down and viewers hate it despite the fact they they fell in love with Once Upon a Time , or that Whitney is unwatchable even though viewers are flocking to female comedies like The New Girl, or that Prime Suspect was a terrible show – well, sorry, he’s a moron. NBC has bad, bad shows and unless they learn how to entertain people they might as well shut down.
I think Greenblatt needs to realize the rules of cable no longer apply when working for a broadcast network. He keeps saying “On cable this” and “On cable that”. Broadcast will never be able to work on the same TV model as cable, especially a pay channel such as Showtime. Hopefully he changes his mindset soon or else he might need to start looking for a new job.
The networks need to think that “cable rules” can apply to broadcast, because otherwise they are doomed. NBC will be the first to sink, and CBS the last, but they’re all on the Titanic in either case. If they are forced to make boring typical network shows, their audience will continue to flee to cable, because there’s nothing worth watching on broadcast.
Both NBC and ABC are actively trying to get out of this trap. Might as well root for them to succeed. We’ll find out one way or the other.
Read some of his comments again. He DOES realize cable is different. He was making that point exactly when he said Prime Suspect would have been a megahit on Showtime.
He’s kidding about PRIME SUSPECT ever being a hit on Showtime, right? From what little I’ve seen of HOMEFRONT and HOUSE OF LIES, neither of those shows are dull, dated, or lack a reason to exist.
Yeah, if he thinks Whitney and Grimm are good quality shows then that speaks to what the problem really is at the network.
Greenblatt is correct, as I predicted…ultimately it WAS that hat.
@KP, @KoolAidMan, Smash is a great pilot though according to many people. It has positive buzz. It also is being promoted all over the Super Bowl.
…yes because the audience for the Superbowl obviously crosses over into musicals.
The issue is innovation and originality. Good storys good characters funny that’s what makes good shows. That is not what the big 4 put on the air. Forget the comparisons of cable to the networks the real comparison is between good and bad. Old and new. Prime suspect felt like every other crime show on nbc.put original quality programs on the network and schedule it properly and you will be successful. There is literally nothing new going on at the nets.we now have more choices so the big 4 has to step up their game.
WTF are you talking about? Revenge has a very good story. So does Once Upon a Time (which is better than Grimm). So, does Parenthood.
Revenge and Once Upon a Time are steps in the right direction. (Grimm is still too much the broadcast formula, but I don’t know that Greenblatt is to blame for that. His test will be 2012-13.) I’m very curious to see if the midseason shows will continue the non-formula/real story/real characters trend in Touch, Alcatraz, Smash, The Firm and The River.
sorry Jack if you think those are good shows. Overall there are 4 nets and you just named 3 shows. THREE. and not a comedy in the bunch. WTF indeed.
Glad to see that AWAKE is still in the planning. I can’t remember looking forward to a show like this since LOST.
“Greenblatt said that in his first season at NBC he delivered “four times as many good shows as I ever delivered at Showtime” in one year, listing such series as Prime Suspect, Whitney, Up All Night, Grimm and the upcoming Awake and Smash…”
I like Bob, think he can do good things at NBC. But “Whitney” is awful and he knows it – just like everyone else. The Chelsea Handler nightmare will also be atrocious. So connecting the word ‘good’ with “Whitney” is silly.
They’re promoting Smash like it’s “make or break,” so it’s hard to take Greenblatt’s comment about it on the nose.
“Whitney” is just horrible. Horrible. How that show was picked up and given the choice spot after The Office, while 30 Rock was benched remains a mystery to me. Greenblatt has got to know there is no love for this program, yet keeps airing it while pulling the more brilliant, more consistently funny “Community.”
The realm of TV is littered with great, award winning shows, yet the lowest common denominator shows such as this criminally awful “comedy” is given airtime.
Seriously, “Whitney” over “Community” and “30 Rock?”
Tina Fey had another baby, so they could have either gotten a few episodes of 30 Rock in before she had to go on maternity, followed by a long hiatus, or they could hold it to midseason and air all 22 episodes consecutively. They made the right call, there.
Just so you know, “30 Rock” was held back for midseason because of Tina Fey’s pregnancy.
There aren’t other elements to blame other than those shows sucking, not the lead ins, cast changes or the Arab spring. The bottom line is those shows blew. Playboy club was a cheap thoughtless attempt to capitalize on the success of mad men. As someone who was a former cable exec he should have recognized the need to create something fresh. I understand that he inherited most of those shows but looking at their slate – they have a lot of work to do.
NBC could quickly become the most interesting of the broadcast networks, because they are the most desperate and the most likely to take risks for 2012-13. The opposite case from boring old CBS, which won’t be worth looking at until their geriatric audience finally starts to make them desperate, too.
I have a funny feeling Smash will finally be the hit NBC needs. And their fall lineup could be fascinating.
I haven’t seen the Locke & Key pilot, but maybe he should have picked that up.
I think that Nets have a to weigh a pilot’s wow with the long term viability of the show.
Lost was one of the great pilots, ever. And it was clear that they had no idea where they were going long term. Ditto Battlestar Galactica.
I had no idea where Locke was going. I suspect the creators had no idea either.
Well if that wasn’t a bunch of bullshit from Greenblatt…cable or broadcast, a bad show is a bad show and he put on bad shows! All he did was make a lot of crappy excuses. What’s the excuse he’s going to make for “Whitney” (completely embarassing) and that nightmare show “Chelsea”.(maybe because they’re both from the Comcast family??) Stop getting in bed with your big boy friends chosing shows based on politics. And learn how to say no to Ron Howard, even if he’s in the room. Even he should be ashamed of “Playboy Club”.
He only picked them up because he didn’t have enough time to completely develop them. Now, if his schedule is horrible next year,then that will be his fault.
I will give him credit for shelving Community. That horse is dead, stop beating it. It was lucky to make it this far.
Your negative opinion is colorful and very passionate. As a counter point, here’s mine. Community is a true shining gem and it’s entire cast is set to explode in their comedy careers. NBC should show it unlimited love, and when they bring it back, move it out of time slot competition with the Big Bang Theory – which although is very different, I think draws from a similar demographic well. I myself was irritated when BBT moved opposite Community, as I am ‘old school’ and do not have cable, satellite, streaming internet or DVR – only a dinosaur VCR. Community is not only slap your knee & LOL funny, it is clever, silly, sweet, goofy, smart, creative, witty, snarky, innovative, daring, even thought provoking, and offers unlimited potential for stories and character developement that are chock full of fun and feeling. I am so sick of the mean-spiritedness of many other so called ‘comedies’ – like the Office which features a critter-killing sociopath, or female comics who think being nasty like ‘the boys’ is funny. Foul is never funny – just my opinion.
Community is unlike anything else on TV. I guess that is why it is not performing in the over-the-air broadcast realm, which frequently plays to the lowest common demominator and the least sophisticated, or so it seems. But the show is lighting up the digital universe and episodes continue to entertain with repeated viewings, so NBC, keep it on at least long enough to go into syndication. Or even better, as Abed says – ‘Six seasons and a movie!’
I’m a little fish in a big pond but like some (Ben Silverman), I got into the industry largely from watching NBC shows in the 80′s and early 90′s. They made me want to be a part of it.
Fast forward – I left the industry almost two years ago, moved out of LA and on to another major market.
Though I’ve lived here 2 years, I don’t know what channel NBC is, despite watching tv daily. Can’t figure out if “30 Rock” was canceled, because my tivo hasn’t recorded it.
Putting aside that I may just be old, NBC is stunningly irrelevant. Can’t recall anyone telling me about a good NBC show in years.
and right there lies the answer to NBC’s problems. You said you were drawn to NBC shows back in the 80′s and early 90′s. When I look at the shows NBC used to have I too am drawn to the network. They had so many great sitcoms that had broad appeal but not today. I rewatch those old sitcoms to death because they’re that great. If NBC could only just look to what made them great before and blend that with the new style of tv today they would be a network worth watching. ABC I think is doing a fine job at doing this right now.
hard hitting cop show and prime suspect in same sentence. lol.
Admittedly it’s a tough job, but the fact that he can claim Whitney is a “good show” with a straight face does not bode well for NBC.
Spring is not gonna be any better for NBC. Hopefully upfronts brings a godsend, but who am I kidding.
Um,Smash has hit potential, especially considering that music on tv is doing really well right now like The Voice.
Folks, Greenbladt is just telling the truth; something Jeff Zucker would have never admitted to during his failed tenure as head of NBC. The network is trying to stave off all the garbage that was approved of by the previous regime and once they get all those shows in the trash can, then Greenbladt and his staff can primarily focus on producing quality content and bring the network back to some form of respectability. He needs to stay away from turning NBC into a reality network and produce comedies and dramas people are going to be interested in viewing once again, not bring back shows like Fear Factor or Whitney to help fill in time slots. That has never worked for NBC and it won’t anytime soon, a failed formula if you ask me. They have the finances in place but good solid ideas have to be brought about to get the public interested again and not schlock like Playboy Club or these other shows they have airing now. Las Vegas could still work but only for one more season and NBC owes its fans a proper conclusion to the show after that stupid previous regime screwed around with it and they need to market their shows better this time around. THAT’s how you bring NBC back into the mix once again. When you get beat by Univision and at rare times, the CW, then that’s the time to start worrying about the overall structure of this network.
Hear hear!
Community sucks keep it off the air!and as for Whitney it has its funny moments but overall it needs to go.I actually kinda like the new Office it is not as good as it was with Steve but it is still pretty good.Up All Night give it another season and as for Parks & Rec they need to go t and 30 Rock can stay as for the other stuff coming this mid-season I haven’t seen it so I don’t know.
My brain still can’t compute that Whitney Cummings and Chelsea Handler not only have shows, more than one show each for chrissakes, but even exist as human beings..
We gotta turn the SS Mediocre around dudes. It’s a ship that has to be stopped.
Agreed, agreed, agreed
Give me a break, Greenblatt. Showtime doesn’t do run of the mill female cop dramas. They do special programming like Homeland and Dexter. Not only would they not renew Prime Suspect, they would never have aired it in the first place.
The problem with Prime Suspect was Maria Bello – she’s no Helen Mirren .It was a great show with Helen. Who cast this mess ? She had no appeal. and wtf was with that hat ? It just sucked from the first show and never got better