Diane Haithman is contributing to Deadline’s TCA coverage.
Lena Dunham, writer/director/star of HBO’s new comedy series Girls, said she grew up on HBO’s Sex and the City and doesn’t see her show about 20-something single women in New York as a clone of the iconic HBO comedy. She said that the world of these confused 24-year-olds exists somewhere between Sex And The City and the wealthy teens of Gossip Girls and called her “girls” the generation who expected to move to New York and have a great boyfriend, great job and “an elegant shoe closet” like the Sex and the City women – but it didn’t happen.
Dunham, who used her own life as the story in her $25,000 breakout film Tiny Furniture, was joined on the panel by Girls executive producers Jenni Konner and Judd Apatow. Dunham and Konner said that Apatow is actually the sensitive one when it comes to racy jokes on the shows. If you think, “that hand job joke was Judd’s and that crying joke was Lena’s – flip it,” Dunham said.
Apatow seemed to have redeemed himself here for his past focus on “guy” stories. In fact one female questioner asked him “what women want.” Apatow joked that answering that question left him wide open to ending “my marriage and my career. We all just want to be happy.” But he couldn’t help adding, Apatow-style: “You wanna get laid.”
Apatow also evidenced his touchy-feely side in answering a question about whether he had been tempted to come back to TV during the decade since his underappreciated series Freaks and Geeks and Undeclared. “I really wasn’t interested. I was hurt; I was wounded and sad from my TV experience. My only good experience was with HBO on and off through run of The Larry Sanders Show. This is much easier because I do so little. Freaks and Geeks and Undeclared, I put so much into it I ended up in the hospital. It’s nice that I don’t need to do that again. “


I’m confused. This show is somewhere between Gossip Girls–rich teens with shoe closets–and SATC–older well-off girls with shoe closets–but the Girls girls aren’t those girls? This seems like a very narrow definition. PS I’ve seen the pilot and those Girls girls sure seem like clones of the Sex girls. Just saying…
Apatow is a vulgarian, and his movies are low-brow trash. his success is a symptom, not a cure, for Hollywood’s ills.
Solid pilot, a lot of good scripts. I think this one has some promise. Glad it found its way to HBO.
Ick. I’m 24 and live in NYC and this pilot made my skin crawl.
Have seen the pilot and it’s very funny and real…well put. You think your like will be like SATC and well the opposite just happens. Looking forward to seeing more of this show.
HBO could have done way better in this world. I saw the pilot, yes its “real” but it’s also rich and entitled. Let’s move on.
Tiny furniture looked unwatchable. This looks EXACTLY like a SATC ripoff. Even if it’s not, does anyone really want a postmodern deconstruction of such a vapid wasteland of a TV show? Life in NY ISN’T like SATC? Gasp.
I’m going to go work on my postmodern deconstruction of ENTOURAGE where crude fat guys actually DON’T get laid every fucking day. Then I’m sending it to HBO.
Did you even see Tiny Furniture, chris? It was HILARIIOUS…….
So it’s a show about rich white girls living in improbably lavish NY apartments, buying $15 martinis and wearing designer clothes. Bold. Bold stuff. Got it.
I am a HUGE SATC fan and saw the pilot for GIRLS and found it unwatchable and cringe-inducing. Honestly shocked that HBO did this one.
I just watched Tiny Furniture on Sundance on demand the other night. It was so bad. I’m stunned this she got so much buzz off that movie. I’m not even bitter or jealous. Just puzzled how that cut through the noise & led to instant deal w/high profile producers. At least Foot Fist Way gave us a real solid glimpse of what that group was going to do. Tiny Furniture was boring, entitled (as someone said earlier and frankly lazy.
If Girls is more Tiny Furniture it’s going to be bumpy ride. Not sure who the audience is other than cooler than the room hipsters.
I thought Tiny Furniture was okay, but this pilot was a big miss for me. It felt like a cheap imitation of a Whit Stillman movie from 20 years ago, only with less witty dialogue, slower pacing, and significantly less interesting characters.
Definitely think Lena Dunham has talent, but my guess is this is a show to be appreciated only by 21 to 26 year old rich girls who have lived in New York City.
I felt like Whit Stillman captured a certain period of New York City and I love those films for it, and the fact had such great dialogue on the college-level intellectualism the characters engaged in. To me Tiny Furniture was different in that respect and it was a debut film that had some non-actors in it.
It’s very easy to be bitter about this very young woman getting such a great gig with HBO, but instead I’d like to say ‘BOUT F*CKING TIME!!!
Looks good. Is this the same show as I Was Told There’d Be Cake?
This pilot was literally six hundred times better, funnier and more authentic than the one for NEW GIRL…if HBO had debuted GIRLS in the fall it would be Lena at the Golden Globes not Zooey…
Not sure about the Tiny Furniture hate. I liked it because just the whole post-grad phase of college I could relate.
To Those Commenting on the show who have never seen it. WATCH IT BEFORE MAKING ASSUMPTIONS. Its about rich white girls buying $15 martinis. WRONG. This show is not Sex & The City. It’s not trying to be. Why do we have to be so small minded that an ensemble show about women (even in NY) is automatically sex & the city. These are girls who don’t have jobs, havent figured out what they want to do. Live on the lower east side – and aren’t out eating fancy dinners and clubbing. They are working and sleeping with the wrong guys and trying to figure out themselves and who they are. They are not Carrie and company. Watch the show – some will like it – and some won’t. It’s a subjective business. But here’s the thing – watch it and make your opinion. Or don’t watch it – but in that case you have nothing to validate your opinion. If you read the critics and bloggers on the show – they seem to love it. Give it a shot. Or you can watch Work It. Either way – the choice is yours…..
Aren’t they also all girls who’s parents pay for their lifestyle and who have never had to work a day in their life? I’m sorry but they can deal with a little criticism. Get over it.
I don’t know anyone who can relate to the Gossip Girls or the Sex and the City women. Obviously there’s an audience for these series, but I can’t help but wish HBO would make dramas that are less raunchy and more realistic. Just because they’re HBO they think every show needs sex jokes, nudity, drugs, sex scenes, etc.
Loved Enlightened, by the way.
Ewwwwwwww… who is this show meant for anyway?
“You couldn’t pay me enough to be 24 again.” Um, yeah.
Just more proof that these days, you don’t have to be talented or even easy on the eyes to make it in show-biz. You just have to be young.
Heck, you don’t even have to LOOK young (Dunham looks like a long-divorced 45-year-old frumpster). You just have to have a birth certificate that says so.
Maybe if this show was set in Omaha or Kansas City, It’d ring more true. But this Dunham character as a Manahattan twenty-something? Come on! No. Gross.