
UPDATE SUNDAY: Since I posted the story yesterday, several people working on the show have come forward to confirm Chase’s version of the events. One noted that the show indeed was “suffering through a ‘non-script day’” when Chase walked off. Another claimed that most of the cast and crew members who attended the wrap party disapproved of Harmon’s behavior at the bash.
PREVIOUS: Things are looking up for NBC’s perennial bubble series Community, which has been solid since returning from a long hiatus earlier this month, establishing itself as NBC’s second highest-rated comedy behind The Office. But behind the scenes, a rift between co-star Chevy Chase and creator/executive producer/showrunner Dan Harmon has escalated into an ugly war of words.
Accounts of the feud have leaked online, including on social news website Reddit. The chronology of the events, corroborated to me by multiple sources, involves Chase walking off the set of the show on the last day of shooting last month without filming one of his scenes, which reportedly was to close out the season finale. Then at the wrap party, Harmon got up and gave a “Fuck you, Chevy” speech in front of Chase and his wife and daughter, and encouraged the crew to join him in saying “fuck you” to the actor. Chase left immediately and later left Harmon a profane-laden voice message, a portion of which found its way to the Web after Harmon played it in front of other people. Click here for audio. (Warning: foul language!) In the voice message, Chase addresses both his storming off the set, which he attributes to not getting the script beforehand, (some say it’s because he didn’t find the scene funny) and the wrap party incident.
People close to the matter told me they weren’t surprised by the feud, noting that Chase already had a reputation of being difficult before signing on for Community. (I hear it was NBC’s former boss Ben Silverman who championed Chase for the project and was instrumental in bringing him on board.) Word is Chase has stormed off the set of the NBC show in the middle of a scene a number of times and has also gotten into arguments with Community executive producers-directors Anthony and Joe Russo. There had been tension between Chase and Harmon, and with both of them described as “passionate” or “volatile,” depending who you talk to, a blowup was “inevitable,” one person said. Ironically, a recorded Chevy Chase phone call played a major role in another feud involving the Saturday Night Live alum, that with shock jock Howard Stern.
It is unclear at the moment what impact the falling-out between Harmon and Chase would have on Community and whether Chase would continue on the show. The producers’ attention right now is focused on securing a fourth-season renewal for the offbeat comedy, which appears more and more likely. The pickup is key to the syndication prospects of the series, which has an off-network deal with Comedy Central as well as a non-exclusive pact with Hulu. While he was the biggest name when Community launched, the series has made stars out of several of its little known supporting players, with Joel McHale firmly established as the show’s leading man. Still, Community has benefited Chase, boosting his sagging career with a role on a hip show.
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Chase has been really smart with his money over the years. This permits him to be ‘difficult’, and I doubt that this will ever change as long as Chevy has lots of “FU” money in his pocket.
Dump him. He’s just not funny anymore wherever he shows up, and he’s the least funny thing on Community.
Hey Genius I mean, zimbaloo, this writer/creator has a nasty little history. Do your research before negatively commenting or choosing sides. Harmon is a DICK.
Wow, that may be the most ignorant post I have EVER read! zimbaloo CLEARLY said Chevy Chase is not funny and the least funny thing on that show, something MANY people agree with. Then the GENIUS TBonz has to bring up Harmon’s history. WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH HIS COMMENT??? So Harmon’s a DICK, I guess that somehow makes Chevy Chase HILARIOUS and THE FUNNIEST THING ON THE SHOW. Nice logic, GENIUS.
Agreed. CC sucks now, sadly.
Well it a proven fact both these gentlemen are hard to deal with, however the main question is which one will repeatedly tell you to fuck off in front of your family? Obviously it is Chevy Chase, so then Tbonz is a real genius and you are just another asshole who thinks his opinion is worth all caps. This scenario played off horribly and I feel bad for Chevy Chase who obviously is playing less and less a role in the show, or maybe you haven’t watched and that is were you ignorance is coming from.
Both of you, it seem ridiculous that you’re championing these people, both Chase and Harmon.
You don’t think he’s commenting on some post about what happens at your work, do you?
They’re both kinda awful guys. Not surprising this happened.
If this happened at your work or mine both of them would be canned.
Wake up people this is a sad show trying to get attention so they can get ratings. Its ALL showbiz.and BS Go pet your cat or take your kids for a bike ride.
If he’s not funny, I’d say its the material the writers are giving him, not Chevy himself. Pierce isn’t a character pulled out of Chevy’s ass, he can only work with the material given to him, and frankly he’s gotten the short end of the stick as far as character development on this show.
I think he’s done good with the shallow arcs given to him.
I agree with you. If he has a say in it, I hope Chase chooses to stay, if only for the fans.
I don’t think it just comes down to money. Like you say, Chevy Chase has been rich for a long time but I think he chose to do this show because it’s no fun just sitting around at home being rich, that’s boring. You wanna do what you like to do, and in his case he’s a comedian so he would want to do something related to that. If he gets his reputation back for being difficult to work with he’s going to find it hard to get back on a good show, and then all he’ll have left is just sitting around being rich and bored and waiting out the years.
Nothing to see here folks. Chevy Chase has been an asshole since time immemorial.
That stuff flew back in the 70s when he was young, good-looking, and surrounded by people blowing smoke up his ass. Now the old man should be lucky to be working on a semi-relevant show.
I just read a piece in the latest EW on Garrett Morris’ comeback on 2 Broke Girls. Now THAT guy is smiling and cashing his checks!
Everything you say is true, Schad, no question about it, but what about Harmon — a full-grown adult — standing up and leading the room in a chorus of “Fuck you’s” in front of Chase’s wife and daughter?
So much fuss about the wife and daughter, like they’re June Cleaver and Cindy Brady. His youngest daughter is 23. That’s old enough to hear that you’re dad’s a prick, if you hadn’t already figured it out by then.
So it’s totally permissible to be rudely insulted in front of your family, and then have everyone around you encouraged to insult you too? This wasn’t friendly hazing. Harmon could have acted more maturely. He could have addressed the issue with Chevy in a private meeting and not taken steps to embarrass him in front of his family.
I side with Chevy on this.
Let’s not forget Harmon was fired from a show he co-created, The Sarah Silverman Show. Sarah allegedly said, “I can’t have someone on the set who is crazier than me.” Then he allegedly posted a crying whiney rants on his web page about it until Sarah posted a very cold comment back at him. His own writing partner, who was still trying to hold his own job on the program, allegedly reeemed him out, and he finally shut the hell up.
As “difficult” as Chevy might be, nobody can claim that the character development of “Pierce” ever happened. There’s no excuse for it, except being a hack writer who’s in over his head. Harmon has tweeted he “improvises” his scripts while on set because “planning” doesn’t seem to work. We can assume by “planning,” Dan means “writing.”
For people new to the game, “improvising” a script is the last trick of a desperate hack writer. Some shows do it, but that’s putting the pressure on the actor, and taking it off the crappy writers every time. And if the scene goes well, the actor/writer gets NO credit, while the assigned “writer” gets it all.
THAT shit needs to stop. If actors have to improvise, they should get writing credit, and paid to do it. Harmon and his ilk don’t like that, because giving credit where it’s due in that circumstance makes the “writer” of the show look weak.
SAG needs to get off it’s collective ass and give actors who write the scripts while acting them proper writing credit.
Also, let’s remember, the first two seasons, the one’s all the fans seem to say they like, can’t be matched again, because most of the writers from those seasons vowed never to work with Dan again. Yep. Dan’s got a negative rep amongst talented, seasoned writers who don’t like trying to drive home at 3 in the morning after dealing with Dan spending all day trying to figure out what he wants. I suppose it’s hard to make decisions when you allegedly have breakfast with Smirnoff on a fairly regular basis.
Calling out someone in front of his family, and entreating your crew, whose paychecks you’re responsible for, is cowardly and low. Cowardly because Dan knew Chevy wouldn’t be having it out with him under that circumstance which Dan set up.
NBC, how about showing that you have a little more class than CBS? Cancel this writhing, howling thalidomide baby of a show.
It’s in pain. It’s suffering. Only the most cynical, creatively empty wretch cases would try to force this poor cross-eyed slack-jawed thing to sit up now.
Be merciful. Let Community die.
…is that you, Chevy?
I really never understand the point of talking about whether they “like” who they are working for when you work in the creative side of entertainment. The only point that counts- is the show/film good? Everything else is secondary.
This industry loses because not enough people treat television/film as an art.
If you are really a comedy writer and you give up working on the best show you will ever be associated with- because it is a pain in the ass…. you are soft. Harmon is a talent. Silverman made a mistake in getting rid of him after a season, because she was working on something truly great. Everything after that first season is mediocre and it is tragic. The first couple seasons of community were amazing- whatever pain it was working with harmon should make it worth it when you have the end result of those episodes. But too many would rather be comfortably mediocre.
On the Chevy thing- I also don’t care if he is an ass- but to refuse to do the last lines in a show, when cast and crew are depending on you, is unforgivable. He deserved any embarrassment he received.
Yeah James. That’s exactly why Community won no Emmys. There’s a conspiracy to not acknowledge the best written show on television today. All the best comedy writers on television should be standing in line to work crazy hours and get no Emmy, but they’re all in on it too, James. If not, then they’re just weak. They’d rather work on some show that wins Emmys, the losers.
Since when do Emmys have anything to do with good television writing?
The fallacy of your argument is equating emmy’s to comedy excellence. When was that the standard??? The award show that nominates shows like glee and nurse jackie for best comedies???
Actually, whatever personal feuds between Chase and Harmon, it was really stupid to take it out on Chase’s wife and daughter. Shows a definite lack of sense, if not class…
“For people new to the game, “improvising” a script is the last trick of a desperate hack writer. Some shows do it, but that’s putting the pressure on the actor, and taking it off the crappy writers every time. And if the scene goes well, the actor/writer gets NO credit, while the assigned “writer” gets it all.”
Seriously? Harmon is incredibly up front about how what’s improvised on set. In the commentary he talks about how sometimes he just writes in “Donald says something funny”, and, of course, Donald Glover says something funny. He’s constantly acknowledging the actors when they come up with a great line.
All of that said, it’s actually a pretty tightly scripted show. Almost all of what little improvisation there is is done by Donald Glover, and that’s largely because he’s a gifted and experienced comedy writer…like having another member of the writing staff on-set.
If you listen to the commentary, or read anything he’s written, he’s very good about crediting both writers and actors when they come up with a joke or storyline. Yeah, he can be a total asshole, but it’s unfair and inaccurate to say he’s being lazy and not acknowledging the efforts of the actors.
really? really? community is one of the most hilarious shows on television. the cast is genius, and the fans are aware how much is improvised. dan harmon is the CREATOR he is not the be all and end all of hte show. look at lost. jj abrams was the CREATOR but damon lindloff and carleton cuse really were the heart of the show.
and last, the show is not in misery, it is not dying. i’m proud of you for your ability to use big words, quite impressive, but really? let it go. just because YOU don’t like it, doesn’t mean the rest of us don’t.
It’s already dead:
it’s just waiting for its Viking Funeral
(Syndication).
Community is clearly not improvised.
Everyone knows Chevy is a pain to deal with, but to lead a “Fuck You Chevy” at a wrap party with his family there is about as low class as one can get. Sounds like Dan Harmon could use a little growing up, maybe take a Maturity 101 class during his hiatus.
Chevy stormed off set without filming his last scene for the season finale, then he brought his wife and daughter to the wrap party as if nothing had happened? I would’ve been joining in the chorus of “fuck you”s to the ungrateful old prick.
Chevy did not storm off without filming his last scene. He didn’t want to do a Super Bowl promo they asked the cast to shoot late at night. Chevy can be be difficult, but Dan Harmon has caused so many problems by taking the story lines in a weird direction and not delivering scripts in any sort of a timely manner so that no one has time to prep. If Dan Harmon is back for a fourth season, most of the crew will be somewhere else!
you’ve obviously never worked in television!
“Take the high road”, someone should have told Harmon .
Many people have told him that for years. Better advice might be “stop drinking.”
Slow news day, eh? Who cares. Creative people clash.
Creative people don’t class. Assholes clash. Some of them are creative.
I am so so so tired of lonely negative people commenting on stories that they say “who cares”. Go read a book prick.
A “Fuck You Chevy” speech at a wrap party in front of his family would certainly seem to call for a voicemail like that. Harmon sounds like a jerk.
Harmon should be fired immediately for being such an asshole.
It’s disgraceful if NBC allows Harmon to remain on this show.
If NBC has to choose between Harmon’s guidance or Chevy’s participation, the smart bet is on the former. It’s an ensemble show where he’s the weakest link, and while I’m not a super fan of Harmon I doubt it would be easy to turn over the reigns to another and retain the quality.
SNL had much more to lose with Chevy leaving after season one, and we see how that turned out.
I doubt it comes to that, though.
There is no Community without Dan Harmon.
Agree 100%. That was a dick move by Harmon. Guy’s a pretentious douche.
http://danharmon.tumblr.com/post/12377752020/mea-culpa-for-those-needing-one-onward-and-gayward
Now how is this pretentious?
Harmon is an asshole. Do you follow him on twitter? He likes to re-tweet the most mundane criticisms from fans and then he insults them.
You’re making it sound like this was all Chevy’s fault. Dan is known for having a severe personality himself, and being unafraid to speak what’s on his mind at the moment, even if it’s a little childish and petty. But he’s also a brilliant writer, as Chase is a brilliant comedic actor. These two just don’t mix. Their personalities and egos are too big.
Chase is a brilliant comedic actor??? When?
Even seen any of the Vacation movies?
Since SNL, Caddyshack, National Lampoon’s Vacation, Christmas Vacation, Funny Farm, the list goes on…
Funny Farm? You almost made me spit out my drink
Community qualifies Dan as a “brilliant writer”?? Wow. The bar is low indeed.
I’d like to know what you think the bar for good writing is if you think Community’s low standard…
Good to see two highly paid big shots can also settle their disagreements in a rational and mature manner.
Fuck You Chevy speech?? SERIOUS?? That is going way to far and even a low for Harmon.
Nice of Harmon to play the message for his sycophantic minions, sounds like a real professional atmosphere they’ve got going there.
Harmon has no friends. Just a lot of lazy parasites who think he could be their meal ticket to bigger and better things. Most of them are afraid of him because he has no censor to any asinine thing that pops into his nasty head.
If he is a drunk, I guess I’d be a drunk too if all I heard around me all day was a lot of nervous laughter from desperate people. If you want to hear classic Harmon sycophancy, listen to the audience “laughing” during the Chevy message tape.
I also found this disturbing. Why are they laughing throughout the audio? Didn’t the mention of Chevy’s family give them pause? Also, it is interesting that Chevy rightfully predicts that Harmon would share this with his colleagues. Chevy’s a jerk, but he’s not an idiot.
I was in the audience, actually. And no, I did not think for one second about Chevy’s wife and daughter. For Chevy to walk off the set of literally the last scene of the season (a scene where, reportedly, all he had to do was sit at a computer, press a spacebar, and smile) is SO disrespectful. It’s easy to forget that for the seven actors you see on screen, there are a hundred people behind the camera putting just as much of their hearts and souls into it, who’d probably been on set for at least eleven hours (and for the record, Chevy didn’t walk off specifically because of Dan–iirc, Dan wasn’t on set when it happened). Any of whom would have been fired seasons ago if they pulled even half the stuff Chevy did. The wrap party didn’t come to Chevy, Chevy came to the wrap party. WITH his wife and daughter. If I’d been there, I would have chanted, too.
I’m not saying it’s mature behavior. No one looks to Dan Harmon as the paragon of how people should act. He’s not blameless either. But it was pretty funny.
If Harmon really wanted to stick it to Chevy, he’d kill of Pearce and try to get Bill Murray on the show. Chevy and Murray have had a feud since SNL.
Bill has better things to do.
Two words to describe why I’ve never tuned in to watch an episode of COMMUNITY: Chevy Chase.
Two words to describe why I’ve never turned in to watch an episode of COMMUNITY: Harmon’s writing.
Do you not like things that are good?
Eric: I for one am in LOVE with things that are good. I love ‘em! Just as I abhor things that are bad. (Don’t you?) And Harmon’s behavior at the party that night sounds pretty goddamn bad to me. I mean whatever grievances he may have against Chevy may be 100% justified but they ought to be handled privately and professionally, don’t ya think?
But getting up in public and getting the guy’s wife and daughter involved?? Are you fucking kidding me? Harmon crossed a major line with that move. Motherfucker sounds like a sociopath.
A brilliant writer? Don’t doubt it for a minute. Just like Polanksi’s a brilliant director.
And they are each of them — both of them — full tilt assholes.
http://kellyoxford.tumblr.com/post/479774445/my-story-about-the-film-monster-house
Well,I think he’s not much of an asshole as you would think.
Good to know you’ve judged his writing on the show without having seen a single episode. You must be a very mature and intelligent person.
You’re not the only one. I’ve heard it’s a good show, but the presence of Chevy Chase is a total deal breaker. Never seen an episode.
This isn’t exactly a surprise. Last season they made his character an insufferable asshole who was ostracized by the rest of the group. I assumed there was a behind the scenes reason and they were setting the stage for his exit. Frankly, I was shocked when he was still in the cast this year.
Harmon sounds like a jerk and Chevy has been a jerk since SNL. I hope the show fails as it sucks anyway. Harmon acted like a child at the wrap party. Chevy is still a child.
All those SNL primetime players from the 70′s have or had drug problems and the ones that are still alive are all difficult to work with.
When you reach a point in life where the crew of your show is chanting “Fuck You Chevy” at the wrap party in front of your wife and kids, there’s a problem. Still, it’s tasteless behavior, and they should never have sunk so low.
Grow a brain. If the show runner is leading the chants, there MIGHT be a chance that some of the crew might be interested in keeping their jobs. Especially since they got to see what happened to someone who “crossed”‘ Harmon.
Sarah Silverman fired Harmon too. She knew he was an unprofessional wad.
There are jerks in the Show Business…I’m shocked !
Just because you have alot of money doesn’t mean you have to be an a…hole! Chevy should retire!
Agreed, Just. But since we seem to be condemning assholes and asking them to leave the business… shouldn’t Harmon retire too?
I don’t care if Chevy Chase is difficult; to do this in front of all the co-workers and family? Unacceptable in the extreme!
I was thinking the same, until Troy pointed out that Chevy did the same to him by walking off the set (also in front of co-workers). Harmon was showing that he was the boss by putting Chevy down. Not saying it’s right, just pointing out the group psychology behind it.
That Reddit post is a month old. How come this didnt become news until today?
Sounds fishy to me. Dan Harmon is really intelligent and his writing demonstrates an understanding ‘Meta’ themes. I could see these guys manufacturing a feud for attention after the whole Sheen/ 2 and a 1/2 men t thing last year. It is a brilliant way to raise the profile of the show.
Trust me, it’s not manufactured. Both of them are assholes.
What they now call “meta themed” used to be called “derivative,” and “hack.” That is, if you have to base your episodes doing callbacks from old movies, all your characters are two-dimensional, and always in service to the “joke,” you might not be a very good writer.
I’m guessing that’s what Chevy was trying to make clear to Fat Disgusting Dan.
Yeah, bad move by Harmon. Unless this is a publicity stunt. In Chevy/Harmon related news, I liked “evil Pierce” from season 2. That could be what Chase is referring to. Nice Pierce isn’t as fun.
Be the ball, Danny. Just be the ball. You’re not being the ball, Danny. Alright, that’s it…I’m leaving.
A flute without holes, is not a flute. A donut without a hole, is a Danish.
When the first season originally aired I remember thinking ‘This is a great show, but how long can it last with the loose cannon that is Chevy Chase?’ Obviously the show could continue without him although it would be a shame.
I wonder if this recent incident happened before or after McHale and Rash filmed that promo where they say someone on the show is going to die? Could that have been related? Maybe it was an inside threat to Chevy that if he doesn’t shape up Harmon can easily kill his character? Maybe Im grasping at straws?
I attended the Community panel at Comic-Con right after the end of season 1, and everyone in attendance could definitely tell that Chevy clearly lived up to his reputation as an a$$hole.
He made the panel incredibly tense and awkward because he was complaining (into his mic) about his mic, the audio set up, the seating, just about everything — while the producers and cast were trying to placate and console him.
This feud or whatever it is was inevitable. Chevy is a dick, and Harmon treats the show like it’s his first-born child. The show can certainly live on without him, since he has always been that lighting rod for the group to pick on — and nothing else. Nothing redeeming or likable about Chevy’s on-screen character and off-screen character.
>Nothing redeeming or likable about Chevy’s on-screen character and
>off-screen character.
The first season “Pottery” episode in which Pierce goes “overboard” and gives Jeff his speech about always getting the short end of the stick and how life was a buffet and he wasn’t leaving until he’d had his fill and Jeff wishing him good luck and Pierce telling him “Don’t need it; never had it” and the gang working together to save a “drowning” Pierce was one of the best, feel-good, touching, inspirational episodes of the show ever. They screwed up Pierce’s character when they began making him nasty or evil. He was never any of those things; just lonely and misunderstood.
Chevy did the same mic check bits at the Community Paleyfest panel. no question he’s a dick, but all that complaining is “schtick” and not actual douchebaggery.
I’m still wondering WTF was Community doing a panel at Comicon for? Am waiting for Nikki to live snark that show and treat it like the Golden Globes
I was at this panel and while I agree with your sentiment that the rest of the cast seemed a bit tense, it had nothing to do with his mic check “schtick”.
i’ve heard that dan harmon steals jokes from web videos from channel 101. ever since i heard that, i have refused to watch community. also, listen to chevy chase on howard stern. chevy is not the difficult jerk he’s made out to be, and explains himself.
So you don’t watch a show because of unsubstantiated rumors? You probably shouldn’t go on the internet then…
Dan Harmon created Channel 101! Ahhhhhhhhhhh!
I hope you don’t vote.
What small minded behavior. You “heard” a rumor so you wont give a show a try? Despite both Chevy and Dan’s obvious difficult personalities, Community is one of the funniest, freshest TV shows in year. Give it a chance.
I sincerely hope you’re less than 12 years old.