
Universal’s announcement today that Barbra Streisand’s Gypsy is going forward with Oscar- and Emmy-
winning writer Julian Fellowes (Gosford Park, Downton Abbey) assigned to adapt the musical is stirring much Internet talk (and chatter among Deadline commenters). They say Streisand is just too old to take on the iconic role of Rose, the bigger-than-life stage mother of stripper Gypsy Rose Lee. But with her landmark 70th birthday looming on April 24th, Streisand knows it is now or never. And with a potential hit comedy – The Guilt Trip co-starring Seth Rogen — scheduled for release by Paramount on November 2nd, her movie career is on an upswing, and she probably feels the time is right for one last, hopefully great, screen musical and the one iconic stage musical role she’s never played. No word yet on who will direct, but it’s not likely to be Streisand — although that would be interesting. She hasn’t directed a musical since Yentl in 1983 or a movie since The Mirror Has Two Faces in 1996.
The part is so strong it could be major awards fodder, a thought probably not lost on Streisand, who has won two Academy Awards (Best Actress for Funny Girl in 1968 and as co-writer of 1976′s best song, “Evergreen”, from A Star Is Born) but has only been Oscar-nominated twice for her acting and not since 1973′s The Way We Were.
Playing Rose earned Rosalind Russell a Best Actress Comedy or Musical Golden Globe for the 1962 Warner Bros film version as well as a Globe for Bette Midler in the 1993 TV movie remake. Midler was nominated for an Emmy but lost, and Russell failed to even get a Best Actress Oscar nomination, in big part because almost all her singing was dubbed. Reportedly the stage team wanted Judy Garland, but she was busy. If Garland had played Rose I doubt we’d be having this conversation about Streisand right now. Who would want to follow that?
The 1962 movie, which was directed by Mervyn LeRoy and co-starred Karl Malden and Natalie Wood, will celebrate its 50th anniversary on November 1st and is ripe for a remake since it really never had the power of the stage play, which won a 1960 Tony nomination for its star Ethel Merman and has been revived on Broadway four times since winning Best Actress in a Musical Tonys for Angela Lansbury (1975), Tyne Daly (1990) and most recently Patti LuPone (2007).
So by the time Streisand gets around to doing this she may be 71 or
even 72, which in real-life terms would mean she would have given birth to her kids in her 50s (the real-life Rose did all that in her 20s). And if an actress like Anne Hathaway is cast as Gypsy, audiences probably would have to accept the fact there are really 40 years between them and just believe. But we are talking Barbra Streisand and perhaps the greatest musical role ever written for a woman. It’s worth a shot. Of all the famous Broadway and film Madame Roses, LuPone in 2007 was the oldest at 58. Bernadette Peters was 55 when she got a Tony nomination for her Rose in 2003, the same age Russell was when she did the only theatrical film in 1962. Merman was 51, Lansbury was 50, Midler was 48 and Daly was just a tyke at 44 when they all played the role, so Barbra has a good decade and then some on them all, which certainly will add intrigue to the project. It may be part of a developing trend among Hollywood stars now. Sally Field, at 64, just completed playing Mary Todd Lincoln, who was in her mid-40s during the events depicted in Steven Spielberg’s upcoming Lincoln, and she’s a full decade older than her co-star Daniel Day Lewis.
Barbra has played the age game before — on the opposite end of the scale. She caused great
controversy being cast as much older matchmaker Dolly Levi in the 1969 film of Hello Dolly at the age of 27 over the legendary stage Dolly Carol Channing, who was 43 when she started playing the role in 1964 and is still singing those songs at 91. Shirley Booth was 60 in 1958 when she played Dolly Levi in the non-muscial version The Matchmaker, but Streisand pulled off the age gap then and I wouldn’t bet against her doing it now. But the clock is ticking on this one.
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I actually think this is going to be great. It’s an awesome role and a perfect musical score. I don’t think the age matters at all — it’s a reinterpretation.
The big question isn’t whether Babs is too old. Who cares? Meryl Streep was way too old for Mamma Mia! What’s more important is whether anyone will pay to see Barbra Streisand in an old-fashioned musical at the movie theatre. It made sense for Bette Middler to do it for TV – but will modern audiences really want to see a Vaudeville-era musical? Chicago was sexy, and Mamma Mia used popular songs, but Gypsy? It will be bloated, expensive, and no one will care. It should be on HBO – a la Midred Pierce – where they know who their audience is.
you are an ass. Barbra is still considered one of the few 100% bankable female stars – meaning EVERY SINGLE FILM of hers turns a profit. Even if they suck…
“A Star is Born” reboot has been miscast and now this, I thought Babs was retired…and a pain in the ass to work with.
Um, she only said she was retiring from big production concerts. And no one she’s worked with since Walter Mathau in the late 60′s has called her a pain in the ass. Get your facts right, Alex.
Go Barbra!
Streisand is everything that this role needs. Midler was way over the top and I lost interest half way into it. Russell was good, but the film wasn’t. I’ll see it, possibly ten times. Sadly, it’s more than likely to be Streisand’s last movie musical. If only the Yentl experience hadn’t burnt her, we might have seen more like this over the last thirty years. But as it is, I want this to be worth the wait; and that’s exactly what I’ve been doing since Yentl. Waiting.
No idea if it will be a good idea or a bad idea, but I will definitely be seeing it.
I have to say, I tend to agree with the above comments. For the same reasons that I love seeing great revivals of shows on Broadway, I’m excited to see Gypsy again. There are very few people who can sing this like Streisand. Who cares what her age is?
I look forward to seeing this production. She will be great and I can add her to my list of MAMA ROSE as done by MERMAN, LANSBURY, DALY and RUSSELL.
And remember, we go to the movies to be entertained, not to question how old charecter is in relation to the actor. Relax….enjoy. It is all going to come up roses.
I love Streisand, but she is way too old for this role, and she should have the integrity to know it. The real Rose Horvick died when she was 64, and the story is set when Rose is between 35-45. I know that traditionally older women have played the part, but 70 is beyond stretching credibility. She plays the mother to two pre-teen girls in the opening half of the story, for goodness sakes. Maybe Fellowes will skip a generation and make her Gypsy’s grand-mother, but what’s the point of that? Just get Catherine Zeta-Jones and be done with it.
I really don’t think it matters in this case. It’s not like the real Mamma Rose is someone that anyone cares about or needs to honor factually. It’s not Margaret Thatcher, for example. This is, for all intents and purposes, a fictional character. And in this version, the fictional character will be in an old age home. But who cares — I’m still interested in it.
This is a very commercial idea. I bet the movie is a big hit (ie MAMMA MIA). It’s not for me, but I guarantee you that my wife, my mother, my aunts, etc, will all be going to see it. And, at the end of the day, I’ll probably end up going too.
I think the story about Russell being cast is inaccurate. Her husband actually secured the film rights as a starring role for her. Judy and Ann-Margret would have made a memorable team.
You’re right. Roz’s husband, Freddie Brisson (also known as “The Lizard of Roz”), promised Warner Brothers his big-box-office-draw wife for their film “A Majority of One” co-starring Alec Guiness. (Jack Warner didn’t think Sir Alec G. would bring in the bucks with a lesser-known costar. Sound familiar?)Freddie informed Warners that the only way they could have Roz for their film is to give her the Mama Rose part in “Gypsy.” Of course, Jack Warner took the bait. When Merman heard about the deal, she reportedly ripped apart her dressing room.
i like seeing great roles/characters reinterpreted. Romeo & Juliet has been re-told dozens of times. I’m not sure if i love barbra streisand in general, but i’m all for them giving it a shot.
I’m just shocked that 10 comments in and no right-wing Drudge troll-hate for Barbra.
I’m getting a little verklempt.
Being a dyed in the wool fan of Barbra, I believe there isn’t anything she can’t do. I always thought Funny Girl was finest hour…Barbra’s Gypsy may surpass it.
This could be a job for Tim Burton.
Should be a winner with Babs and they could get “Kristen Chenowith” as Baby June.
Kristin Chenoweth is 42, Barbra can pull off 50 at 70, but Kristin can’t pull off 12.
“Now or never”? Should have been “1985 or never”. The character is in her early 30′s. It’s absurd. Sure, there have been women in their late 50′s who’ve done well with it on stage (Patti LuPone), but film is a totally different thing. If they’re going to do this they may was well have Madonna play Baby June and Catherine Zeta Jones play Gypsy Rose Lee.
Terrible terrible idea.
Women of today in general, and Hollywood actresses in particular, look much younger than women did when Mama Rose was alive. Botox, Hollywood make up artists, designers, cameramen and lighting specialists, and digital enhancement will all make Ms Striesand look thirty years younger. If they were to cast an actress in her forties, given the above cheats, she would look like Gypsy’s sister.
No denying Streisand’s talent at all, she is truly one of the last remaining greats, but at 70 she’s wrong for the role. It would be insane to try and either justify the age difference, and an insult to the woman to try to make her look younger. It must be about the character. The character of Rose starts out in her 20s, then ages to early 40s. On Broadway you can get away with an older actress, but not on film. It just doesn’t work. Look at what happened to Lucille Ball in MAME (disregarding the fact she couldn’t handle the vocals) – no amount of vaseline on the lens and soft focus could cover the fact that she was too old for the role on film. There are other projects Streisand could go for – this just shouldn’t be one of them. Yes, it would be incredible to see Streisand, Midler, and Minnelli do one more great musical film for our legacy, but they all need to pick the projects wisely.
Lucille Ball was 63 when she did “Mame.” She was a brilliant comic actress, but she was no singer. Plus, a lifetime of smoking had ravaged her voice and face even at the time of “The Lucy Show” ten years earlier.
And the close-ups of Ball in “Mame” were atrocious. But film has progressed a lot since then. And Streisand knows proper lighting.
But you’re missing the point. The character of Rose signifies the end of a person’s dreams, the regret, confusion, and even hostility
and pushiness towards others to hold onto anything meaningful or that which would bolster one’s self worth.
The fact that Streisand doesn’t look like she did in “Funny Girl” (though hardly anywhere near what we perceive 70 should look like), is essential to showing the cracks in a woman desperately trying to hold on.
I agree. I have always been a HUGE Streisand fan. I’ve seen every movie multiple times. But I do think she’s too old now for this part. I don’t think she can do the role vocally anymore. “Some People” “Everything’s Coming Up Roses” “Rose’s Turn” – her voice just isn’t as powerful as it was and that’s what made her a musical star – and honestly – how old is the father going to be in “Some People”, is HE going to be 90?? OY!
Babs will be great on and off camera. I for one can’t wait for her to belt out Some People, Everything’s Coming Up Roses, and Rose’s Turn. Even more, who she will cast as Gypsy Rose Lee? It is so obvious – Lea Michele would be perfect. It really is time for Babs and Lea to meet.
Who will Babs cast to sing Gotta Get A Gimmick? Would be a hoot if Babs would cast former Broadway Gypsy’s Bernadette Peters and Patti Lupone, and then throw in Kristen Chenowith and the three of them would play the ever youthful but aging Strippers.
Can’t wait!!
Oh come on! Streisand (despite her opinion of herself) has never been someone you hire for her looks. She does not look appreciably different from when she was in her 30s or 40s. She looked very good in Meet the Fockers.
Is she too old? Yes. Can she act? Yes. Sing? Yes. 2 out of 3, I say give it to her. She’s a legend and her voice and performance will make her age a non-issue. I honestly think if this were a male actor in an iconic male
Role the age debate wouldn’t be a factor.
this is gonna be amazing or it’s gonna be a wreck. yup, she’s too old. but so what? she looks at least as good now as R Russell did back in the day, and digitized effects go a lot further than vaseline on the lens and big wattage lighting thrown at faces ever did.
she can bring something to this, and jesus christ its Jule Styne and sondheim. as she mentioned, it will bookend her career.
it appears to me she’s had some subtle and judicious work done to her mug, which has allowed her to rediscover her vanity and desire to perform. and to show off what she can do. all good, in my book
the singing tho is not a slam dunk. it’s not the young voice it was. she can still do it, but dollahs to donuts she’s gonna have to practice and get in shape vocally to pull this off with the kind of aplomb she would want. and she’s on record as not liking to do that. but you know, it’ll be like an athlete getting in really good shape to tackle something. she’s got a ton of voice left, but it feels untended to or something.
as for director, David Russell. that would be kick-ass.
The character of the real-life Momma Rose was re-imagined and watered-down by Gypsy in her autobiography. In fact, there’s a good case for Rose Hovick being bi-polar most of her adult life. Evidence was strong that she killed two people by the time she died. (Read “American Rose”) The play’s Momma Rose is more of a force of nature than anything having to do with actual fact. So why shouldn’t Streisand have a crack at it!
Note to Barbra: Before you even attempt to do the show’s finale, dust off that copy of “A Star Is Born” and see what you’re not supposed to do.
Our greatest singing actress in the greatest role for a singing actress? I’m in!
I think Barbra could be fantastic in this. I hope she will not try to make Mama Rose likeable. Play the character. The scene containing “Everything’s Coming Up Roses” within the context of the show should be frightening. This shouldn’t be another version of Fanny Brice.
Let’s hope they don’t cast a middle age hunk as Herbie. I think people are making too much a deal about her age. They are looking at the number rather than what the woman looks like today. From pictures recently published and from actually seeing her in person in the audience of “The Book of Mormon” last September, she looks great and I don’t see the problem. Barbra looks much younger today than Lucy looked in Mame even though Lucy was younger then Barbra is now. Go Babs.
Just as long as she doesn’t perform any of the musical numbers on a moving tugboat…
The number one reason why she should NOT do it is her voice. She doesn’t have it anymore. Since 2005-ish, she has sounded winded, husky, and her top end is gone. The magic in Barbra Streisand is that she always made it sound effortless and now it sounds as if it’s a chore to get the notes out. Ten years – or more – ago she could have decimated all comers vocally and owned the part for eternity. Now, she will be reduced to second fiddle behind LuPone (yech!), Midler, and even Minnelli, who often performed “Some People” in her act.
Barbra squandered her musical movie output from 1983 on. It’s too late to get it back now.
Additionally, she has been unable to separate herself from her acting characters for decades now. It’s painful to watch her because she is so extremely conscious of herself now that she doesn’t allow herself to become a character. On second thought, maybe she’s never allowed herself to become the character, but at least it worked beautifully in Funny Girl and Hello Dolly.
Keep your dime store psychology/psychiatry to those who are stupid enough to listen to it. I don’t think Streisand needs any advice about her age, looks, voice, etc at this stage from you or anyone else on this message board. She’s done just fine for herself the last fifty years, thank you very much.
You have to separate your absolute worship of her from the reality; she plays herself in movies. She doesn’t let herself go into the character like Meryl Streep does, for just one obvious example. Even people who love Barbra have to admit that she plays herself. Where’s the great performance where she inhabits the character to the extent that we hardly see Barbra? It doesn’t exist. But it does for many of the great actors and actresses.
Worse, she repeats the same tired issue of her relationship with her mother and father ad naseum. Even in the first Fockers movie, she brings the whole thing down at the end with her “Barbra” rant about relationships. Give it a break already!
I’ve been a fan of Barbra’s for a long time but I completely agree here. As long as she continues to care about what side of her face is photographed she’ll never get lost in a character. I don’t believe that even after over forty years of therapy she appreciates her looks and has the self esteem needed to let herself “get ugly” onscreen. I don’t think she’ll rest until the whole nation collectively shouts “Ok Barbra, you’re pretty!”. I’ll never forget that she turned down Woody Allen who finally wanted her for one of his movies: Small Time Crooks but she was working on her big vanity comeback concert tour. Turn down Woody Allen!??!
Buzz is good though for her performance in the upcoming The Guilt Trip. I wish she would embrace rich senior supporting character roles at this point. As far as musicals go, I always envisioned her doing material much more interesting than the overdone Gypsy, like Follies which would be more age appropriate and give her a chance to sing “I’m Still Here”.
All Barbra Streisand fans agree that her movie output since “Yentl” has been sparse and erratic. And no put-downs to the wonderful Meryl Streep, but she doesn’t have a vast recording career that Ms. Streisand has either. I don’t think Ms. Streep has gone on tour as well.
Barbra Streisand is so multi-faceted that there’s just not enough time to be completely dominant in all areas of entertainment, although she’s tackled virtually everything.
I remember the “Hello Dolly” too young controversy. And no one will deny that there is absolutely no chemistry between Matthau and Streisand. And she seems older in the film than her mere 27 years at the time. But after 40 years, can you even imagine the movie without her? No one took on that score quite like she did.
I think Jeff’s post is the most intelligent one out here. Most of the posters here sound like true fans (I’m one of them, a huge fan), but I agree that her voice is husky and hoarse-sounding most of the time, and she’s reverted to singing a lot of ballads, and in a lower key at that. This score is very demanding and requires a lot of belting, and I’m not sure she has it. However, I’ve heard that she recorded some of the score for her two Broadway albums and didn’t release them. It might be interesting to see if they try to use snippets from those recording sessions… Character-wise, she’ll have it down cold, but the voice may not be up to it. I’m hopeful.
Why are you idiots calling her “Barbra”? Are you a secret pal?