This has been one of the big sticking points for TV Everywhere: Advertisers and programmers say they still can’t tell who’s watching when a show is streamed to online audiences. That could result in lots of lost ad revenues. It’s the opposite of what you might expect. Internet users give up gobs of information about themselves every time they click a keyboard or mouse, while ad rates for conventional TV depend on imperfect surveys. But Internet server measurement “systematically overstates audience because it cannot distinguish one person using multiple browsers, account for cookie deletion, or distinguish content served to non-human audiences (i.e. crawlers, bots),” Bernstein Research’s Todd Juenger says this morning in a report. He provides the clearest explanation I’ve seen so far of what advertisers do and don’t know about viewers from different platforms. Here (with his permission) is how he explains what an advertiser on Glee might learn about the show’s multiple audiences:
Conventional TV: A 30-second ad displayed to a viewer watching Glee on a traditional TV set is included in Nielsen’s C3 estimate for the applicable demographic.
Hulu: That same 30-second ad displayed to a viewer watching Glee on Hulu is reported by Hulu to the advertiser as an impression served, with no specific demographic information (Hulu will provide an estimate of the overall composition of site users).
YouTube: That same 30-second ad displayed to a viewer watching Glee on YouTube is likely served to the viewer’s browser based on specific behavioral characteristics bought by the advertiser, and reported by Google to the advertiser as part of that delivery.
Cable VOD: That same 30-second ad displayed to a viewer watching Glee on cable VOD may or may not be included in Nielsen’s C3 estimate (depending on the configuration of ads in the VOD version, and how long after original air-date the view takes place, among other things).
Mobile devices in home: That same 30-second ad displayed to a viewer watching Glee streaming to her iPad (in her home) isn’t captured at all.
Mobile devices away from home: That same 30-second ad displayed to a viewer watching Glee on a mobile device (outside her home) is reported by whatever service is delivering the video clip, with no specific demographic.

I’m confused. TV is still a better advertising medium than online, but the core value proposition of online ads is 1) online viewers can generate far more revenue per viewer than broadcast channels; and 2) there are better real-time measurement tools for those viewers. Eg YouTube Insight delivers me more raw aggregate data about streaming video views than traditional platforms. It offers us definitive stats for geography, age (13-17, 55-64 etc), gender, links to traffic sources and importantly, absolute and relative audience retention (that is, at what point a viewer clicks out of or skips the video).
Finally, let’s not forget that the end users just want their media. They don’t care about how it arrives in the living room. We are still at the tip of the iceberg.
Maybe HULU could start taking my user information and advertisement preferences and sell it to a premium to advertisers looking for my demographic, which happens to be the elusive M18-34. Then maybe I’d like the ads I see, have better retention of them, and maybe even buy their products. Just a thought.
That’s bullshit. The infrastructure is in place all over the web to know, not only exactly who is watching but also to direct personal advertising.
Enjoy streaming video while you can.
Mark my words: It won’t be long before advertisers turn to streaming services for marketing opportunities . . . and the streaming services will surely welcome the additional revenue from ads streamed with movies.
THINK THINK THINK
Q. What are the rates of advertising on each platform?
Q. Does it just ogoing into the pockets of the IPO’s to pay back their recent Billion $ Loans?
Q. Will it perhaps determine, perhaps lower the PAY FOR, Producers, Directors, Writers, Actors, Crew, etc. support companies, (regular TV supplied a reasonable wage to that in past)?
Q. HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO BE FOR START UP’s /Entrepreneurs / anybody can get crowfunding, thier investors, expenses,…
HOW MUCH DO YOU GET ON SALE OF SHOW TO STREAM FROM ‘s (free?- just another exposure web site)?
Q. Is this transfer of power, more advertising money diviated from the regular TV / FILM (thetre industry)
It’s just another way of distribution that’s all.
But not funding. Up to filmmaker.
Q. HOW MUCH DOES THE TALENT, THE ENTERTAINMENT ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY PEOPLE GET PAID? Is it really goinng to be free?
Q. Who gets the good deal and who gets the bad one, or not?
IPO/Middle guys/Owner of project/Talent- and consumer.
****It really should have been always considered both ways to distribute. Not one vs the other. But there are those both IPO’s and general public who want to replace things. But with what?
To those who want to replace TV and the professionals I say, what do you want to do with all those thousands of laid off people? Is that really making more jobs?