This is a subject that gets movie execs going based on the lively debate this morning at a panel about industry issues at the CinemaCon convention in Las Vegas. Sony Pictures Entertainment’s Jeff Blake kicked off the discussion saying that 20 years ago “kids would come every week” to the movies. But no more. “I’m concerned that the moviegoing experience isn’t just for baby boomers.” Regal Entertainment CEO Amy Miles says that her chain currently discourages cell phone use “but if we had a movie that appealed to a younger demographic, we could test some of these concepts.” For example, she says the chain talked about being more flexible about cell phone use at some screens that showed 21 Jump Street. “You’re trying to figure out if there’s something you can offer in the theater that I would not find appealing but my 18-year-old son” might.
IMAX’s Greg Foster seemed to like the idea of relaxing the absolute ban on phone use in theaters. His 17-year-old son “constantly has his phone with him,” he says. “We want them to pay $12 to $14 to come into an auditorium and watch a movie. But they’ve become accustomed to controlling their own existence.” Banning cell phone use may make them “feel a little handcuffed.” That set off Tim League, CEO of Alamo Drafthouse — a small chain that makes a point of throwing out customers who talk or text during a film. “Over my dead body will I introduce texting into the movie theater,” he says. “I love the idea of playing around with a new concept. But that is the scourge of our industry. … It’s our job to understand that this is a sacred space and we have to teach manners.” He says it should be “magical” to come to the cinema. But Miles shot back that “one person’s opinion of magical isn’t the other’s.”
Execs had other pet peeves. For example, Foster decries ads for TV shows in movie theaters. “My tentacles go up,” he says. “How is this possible?” Blake says that moviemakers face “a real challenge” overseas where theaters often mix ads with trailers. The trailer “is the lifeblood of producers and the marketing department” — and one of the top three reasons why people go to the movies. “It’s so important to play those trailers properly, lights down at showtime.” League, whose chain serves meals, also said that there’s “kickback” among consumers on concession pricing — especially the core staples. “Those prices do seem high to me,” he says. “You can get a pint of beer for less than it costs to buy a large soda.”
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I always leave my phone on vibrate & keep it in my lap during movies. Why? Not because I have no self control, but because my children are at home with a babysitter, and I need to be available if there is an emergency.
I agree as much as anyone that I DON’T want to listen to phones ringing, or phone conversations during movies (actually happened the other day!). And I also agree that the bright displays are distracting during a movie.
But the texting itself isn’t distracting, in fact, much less annoying in my opinion than “movie talkers”. I would have no problem with people texting if they were in the very back of the theater behind my field of vision.
Just my opinion.
No, it is distracting when it’s happening next to you or in front of you.
Also I wonder how many times has an “emergency” happened and your phone buzzed, annoying the people in the theater unfortunate to be near you? And how many times has that so called emergency turned out to be nothing life threatening, just a babysitter asking a question?
What did you do 15 years ago? Have the usher come and personally fetch you every time the lobby pay phone rang? If you want to check on your kids, leave the theater to do it.
The texting IS annoying. You’re drawing everyone’s attention away with your sudden flash of light. Stay home. Use Netflix or Redbox. You can keep an eye on your kids much better that way.
Honestly, if you can’t go two hours without being reachable, then you shouldn’t go to the movies, or anywhere. You should just stay home and hover over your kids. People managed to go to the movies without cell phones for nearly a century and it wasn’t a big deal. I can’t tell you how angry your absolutely selfish attitude makes me!
Crazy! Imagine all the noise during a quiet movie, with all the tap, tap, tapping?
Imagine it: Young people “need” the freedom to use their cell phones.
And yet, that freedom is false as they are, quite truthfully, “enslaved” to their phones.
If you want them to come where they can use phones, desginate one multiplex screen for cell phone texting/calling/etc. Designate all the others “NO CELL PHONES).
Isn’t it time to stop feeding “yet another” addiction? Once upon a time, theaters had “smoking sections.”
Enough of this.
Did someone already say “Fuck. No. Never”. ‘Cause I’d second that.
I sometimes text during a movie. No big deal, as long as you do it discreetly and don’t spend the whole film doing it.
No, it IS a big deal. Unless you are by yourself in the back row and no one else is in that row or the one in front of it, then you’ve bothered someday. AND you’ve added to the problem either way.
“bothered someBODY”, rather.
Wait until the movie is on Blu-ray, if that’s your attitude. Jesus, why are people so self-centered these days?
Um, Let me quote from a Lucas movie,
NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
This is one of the reasons I still go to a theater every week or so. The screens at home are getting bigger, but for me, I still love going to a place where I can sit down and at least pretend nothing is going on around me.
If they do this – Im buying one of those bootleg prtable cell jammers. Fuck ‘em.
Going to a movie used to be an adventure, I look forward to seeing those trailers so I could mark the dates for the movies I wanted to see. Every weekend I look forward to see what ever new movie was coming out.
Now if I choose to go to a movie its a chore, pick a location, pay a huge sum for tickets, beverages and drinks and in some locations parking.
Then the reason I so used to come trailers, and commercials, I paid good money to come see something with no commercials, if I want commercials I will just stay at home and watch TV.
Then my movie starts, and out pops the cell phones, people texting the person in the seat beside them yes beside them, the flow of the movie is gone, so now I just stay at home buy the Blue Ray movie and enjoy my life.
This now also applies to TV, the amount of commercials, the network logos, and flash commercials for the next show are gone, I purchase the TV Seris on DVD or Blue Ray and watch when I want to watch, with no annoying commercials or logos.
If the entertainment business is going to be around, they had best come up with better solutions to the entertainment of people we are fed up with logos, buzz commercials, people on phones, and remakes of remakes for god sake get an orignal idea people
My God I’ve found my twin.
My God, someone actually does think the way we do…nice.
It’s scary but you want to see what we’ve really become, and said we wouldn’t – check out any episode of Max Headroom (the ABC show)…and shudder at how close we now are…almost 30 years later…
If you want to designate a special theater or screening, that’s fine.. and if you want to use your cell phone up to and including the first trailer, i’ll deal – better than all the commericals – but otherwise…from that point on…
NO TEXTING, NO TALKING, NO NONE NYET NADA!
Hopefully,if this texting in theaters nonsense were ever allowed,the first text would be something along the lines of “I just got smacked upside my head for ruining the movie going experience of someone who spent their hard earned money” or text condensed words to that effect.
Simple solution (to me): Take your average 12-18 screen gigantaplex and split it in half. 6 to 9 screens for the teenyboppers to text, talk & run wild. The other 6 to 9 21 and over only with strict rules of etiquette and threats to promptly remove (FOR LIFE) teenyboppers and other folk who can’t sit for 90 minutes without updating their FB or Twitter accounts.
As a 17-year old who doesn’t text in movies, I have to ask why you would condemn me to such a horrible fate.
Why stop there? Why not have texting-friendly churches, funeral homes, pediatricians and fine dining so the little assholes will become lifelong customers? It’s much easier than teaching them manners.
Very soon every major city will be like Austin where we have two tiers of theaters, an expensive one for the adults that serves beer/wine and food brought directly to your seat and with assigned seating with no texting, like the opera, and another big box one for the teens/families with kids that looks like a Six Flags where talking will be “discouraged” (ie against the rules but no staff enforcing it) but texting no problem.
NO!!! Allowing (aka encouraging) texting during movies is a horrible idea!!! What kind of idiot thought up this idea?? Thank god for arthouse theaters. If theater chains encourage texting, they will be shooting themselves in the foot. Who wants to go see a movie with a bunch of morons texting and yapping on their cellphones, ruining it for everyone else? I was at a showing of THE LADY IN BLACK in LA with a bunch of unruly teens in the audience (one of them was looking around the darkened theater for an outlet for her phone!!!! another was yelling profanities on a phone), and a group of adults began screaming at them to be quiet. It was the greatest thing I witnessed. It nearly came to blows. The kids were kicked out in the end by an amazing woman who yelled at them with true fury that she was going to “kick them out into the street and then keep kicking them all the way home”!!! They fled into the lobby. They were also reported to the manager, who called the police and got them hauled away. Fantastic night! I hate idiot who text and call during movies. What kind of cretin can’t be off their phone for 2 hours?? (a phone that mommy and daddy probably paid for). DON’T GO TO THE MOVIES IF YOU WANT TO TEXT AND CHAT ON YOUR CELL! It’s that simple.
A-friggin-men!!!
The fact that they would even suggest this illustrates that they are disconnected from the reason why people are not going to the movies like they did.
1. Cost of ticket
2. Cost of Consession
3. Film Going Experience
4. Quality of the product
5. More Choice of Alternate Entertainment.
6. Bludgeoned with repeative and super annoying advertising
$10-15 (plus concession cost) for 90 minutes of recycle 80′s tv shows, and movie remakes with texters and talkers….
No wonder people are netflixing, or bit torrenting films and watching on the 50″ HD screens at home.
@Oneofus-well said well said indeed!!!!!
Kids today feel “handcuffed” because they can’t sit still for two hours and watch a movie like a civilized person? C’mon! Why should the theater owners kowtow to people with bad manners? I say: NO NO NO to texting and talking in a movie theater and I echo statements made by others: if a theater allows that, they’re NOT getting my money!
I find it interesting that the movies are catching up to the arts in using social media. Twitter nights are done by several theatre in the US and attract a following. A dance company in California caused an industry stir when Diablo Ballet has used Twitter Nights to find creative ways to describe dance.
Interesting that the industry with the most money (flms) has to play catch up to an industry with little money (the arts).
Sure, go ahead and let them text – as long as I’m allowed to throw my popcorn at them when they do…
You don’t get to be the CEO of a major movie chain without being smart, savvy, shrewd, or whatever you want to call it. Which is why I’m disheartened to read where a major decision-maker’s instinct is on this. It would be like someone noticing the opening weekend gross for “Think Like A Man” and formulating: “Hmm, black audiences will support a film (see: Tyler Perry). Why aren’t they coming to other movies in these numbers? Well, black people like to talk in theaters and they’re “discouraged” from doing that in non-black theaters. Let’s run with this train of thought.” It both plays on stereotypes and doesn’t address the core problems. Teens may text disproportionately to non-teens, but not ALL teenagers text during a movie. To paint them ALL as unable to follow these guidelines is as ageist as the former example is racist.
Film distributors originally worried the advent of television would mean the death of cinema. Why pay to see a movie in a theater when you can stay home and watch tv for free? The answer was (and is) that the movie-going experience is inherently different than that of the home experience, and people appreciate this distinction. The line between the two should not then be blurred, but defined even clearer: dark, quiet, distraction-free, all eyes/ears synced to where the theater intended. The content may be sub-par, but the respect for the experience should not be diminished. Treat it like Broadway. If you instead seek to ape the worst aspects of the home-viewing experience, you will lose.
Kids, like adults, want to pass some time in an enjoyable way. So what happens when one of the multitude of options to pass time becomes prohibitively expensive AND often delivers sub-par content? It gets scratched off the list. People will go to a theater if the tickets are cheap. They will go to a theater to see a fantastic movie. In a perfect world they’d be able to do both at the same time. Show them terrible movies that cost a fortune. Well… looks like they’ll have to fall back on 500-channels of cable, Netflix, YouTube, Hulu, the Internet in general, video games, free music online, or — worst of all — interacting with other humans.
I often go to movies for work purposes. Usually during the day when not many people are around. I sit in the back and I text constantly.
Well that is different and, quite frankly, polite of you to sit where it doesn’t bother anyone. That is rare.
What do you do for work?
All they’re doing is grasping at straws. They are trying to think of ideas that won’t cost them money.
Studios need to make better movies and theater owners need to lower ticket prices and concession prices. Do all of this and the customer (young and old) will come.
Teenagers also love to masturbate. Shall we also let them partake in this inappropriate theater activity so they don’t feel “handcuffed”?
Am I the only person who has found the few times that some thoughtless gits in front have been using their phones while watching a film in a cinema that the damn light from the screen is painful, even if it’s in the corner of your eye? For that alone I say no and never.
Fuck no.
Also see:
“Is it finally time to start eating our own feces?”