EXCLUSIVE: It’s the end of a modern Hollywood era, the quiet finish to one of the most long-term, big-time, noisy, up and down, and ultimately dysfunctional relationships between a film producer and a movie studio. I have learned that Joel Silver will no longer have a production deal at Warner Bros at the end of 2012. His Silver Pictures also won’t be housed on the studio’s Burbank lot after then — famously in the offices built for Frank Sinatra in 1963 — which is why the producer right now is looking for buildings in Santa Monica and Venice Beach. So what happened?
I can tell you that the tipping point came during Christmas 2011 when Silver began loudly complaining around Hollywood, and using surrogates to grouse directly to showbiz media, about Warner Bros’ handling of Sherlock Holmes 2‘s release. Silver was a producer on the sequel, which was playing catch up to that holiday’s runaway No. 1, Paramount’s Mission: Impossible 4. Silver and his surrogates bitched about everything, from the studio’s marketing and distribution to the fact that Warner Bros shouldn’t have paired a first glimpse of its hot The Dark Knight Rises footage with M:I4‘s IMAX release. They claimed the move goosed M:I4 grosses to the detriment of Sherlock Holmes: A Game Of Shadows. (It had PR value but proved revenue neutral.) They claimed Sherlock Holmes 2 star Robert Downey Jr was so furious he would never work again for the studio. (Not true.) Warner Bros movie chief Jeff Robinov felt the Sherlock Holmes 2 blame game orchestrated by Silver was destabilizing the studio. “Jeff said to Joel, ‘You’re panicking as you always do, blaming everyone, infuriating everyone. Internally and externally you’re creating problems for us.”
As for pairing the TDKR footage with M:I4, even a rival studio exec told me Warner Bros’ “challenge as always is balancing two big heavyweights: Christopher Nolan and the filmmakers for Sherlock. That commitment to M:I4 was made through IMAX eight months earlier. And then Paramount moved up the date. What Joel did was to paint a picture of Sherlock Holmes 2 as a failure, calling up agencies bitching, stirring up the town against Warner Bros by claiming marketing had not eventized the movie. Yes, M:I4 had BMW spots with Tom Cruise. But what was a period film like Sherlock Holmes 2 going to do – show a horse and carriage? In fact it was a successful movie.”
That’s when Robinov became fed up with Silver’s bad boy behavior that was translating now, and had translated for years, into a series of betrayals. (I understand that Robinov at that point hadn’t even heard that Joel went to Jeff’s No. 2 executive Greg Silverman and baited him, “Jeff sucks. You should have his job.”) Once the relationship soured, the issue now was how to avoid a bad situation devolving into a bad breakup by publicly embarrassing Joel. So Robinov used his own surrogates to make Silver aware that the studio was about to “address the economics” of his Warner Bros deal if — and that was a big “if” — it was renewed at the end of the year. Which Silver correctly interpreted as meaning a drastic reduction in his already greatly reduced contract terms even though the studio had not yet presented any details. Robinov counted on Silver imploding, which is exactly what happened. The producer and Robinov met on January 10th to discuss their up-and-downs. “Joel talked, and Jeff mostly heard him out,” one of my sources explains. Silver insiders say Joel came in and admitted he’d “lost his cool” over Sherlock 2 and “was sorry” and had spoken both too soon and out of turn because the movie wound up doing about what the original did domestically but better internationally. Then Silver waxed philosophic to the mogul: ”Maybe it’s time for me to go. I don’t fit the new mold. Maybe I don’t belong.”
And then a few weeks ago Silver met with Robinov again and said he didn’t want to stay if the studio wouldn’t reup him under the terms he wanted. As one of my sources explains, “Joel put Jeff in a position where it was impossible to let Joel stay. Said another: “Understanding the extent to which his working relationship with Jeff had become estranged is the reason Joel doesn’t want to be at the studio anymore.”
The end of 2012 is his departure date. After then, Silver is free to set up a first look deal somewhere else. Some might wonder why Joel at age 59 doesn’t take early retirement from the movie biz and go out on top. It’s well known in Hollywood that the lavish-living Silver has relied on a longstanding series of loans from Warner Bros by taking advances against the money due him on his movies. Once he leaves Warner Bros, Silver must repay those loans. Will another studio be willing to let him borrow in an arrangement which Silver’s lawyer Bert Fields once described as “a running account between them”. The best guess is Universal and his close friend Ron Meyer whose daughter is an executive at Silver Pictures. But then Universal, like all the movie studios, has dialed back overhead.
Silver has been responsible for billions in ticket sales for Warner Bros over the years — including four Lethal Weapon movies (the first released in 1987), The Matrix films, Sherlock Holmes and Sherlock Holmes 2 – and is leaving the studio a legacy of big action hits since he started Silver Pictures in 1985. The relationship went both ways. In 2006 Robinov as then president of production sought the producer’s advice on how to butch up the studio’s marketing of Superman Returns mired in gay buzz.
But then Silver delivered one of Warner Bros’ worst flops, the expensive $160M-costing Speed Racer, in 2008. Because his personality had created so many enemies over the years, most of Hollywood was ecstatic by his failure, and rumors spread that Warner Bros was supposedly cancelling or at the very least not renewing his deal there which still had a year and a half to go. (As he told me at the time: “I know there’s a long list of Hollywood types right now kinda elated about that. But Warner Bros is my family, I’ve been there for 22 years, and we’re fine. But I can’t stop the slings and arrows of the world around me.”)
Cementing their relationship, Robinov rescued Silver and, despite Speed Racer‘s tanking, put him on as a producer for the already-well-into-development Sherlock Holmes that same summer. (“It wasn’t just a mercy fuck. There was a history there,” a source said, referring to Silver’s close ties to Downey and his producer wife). Sherlock when released in 2009 was a big satisfying hit for both Silver and Warner Bros. Robinov extended Silver’s deal but also cut it in half.
Robinov then decided to reexamine the gross profit participations of all the DC Comics superheroes being developed as Warner Bros movies. Most of the superhero projects were taken back by the studio, and DC Entertainment created to house them. Silver lost Wonder Woman and began to grumble loudly that his by then 10 years of developing her was history. But Silver was allowed to continue bringing low profile The Losers to the big screen under his Dark Castle banner. In 2010, Warner Bros announced that Alan Horn was departing and Robinov taking his place. Silver seemed incredibly secure. But the studio was frustrated that it had to market and distribute his low-brow and often low-grossing Dark Castle pictures.
Then, in 2010, The New York Times profiled Silver and asked, “How does a larger-than-life, free-spending producer fit into a movie business that has been tightening up — and cutting some of its more grandiose characters down to size?” The article spelled out Silver’s financial difficulties and borrowing arrangement with the studio, and looked at the lawsuit filed by Silver and attorney Bert Fields against Goldman Sachs over Dark Castle. Worse, the article stirred up talk about fissures in the Robinov-Silver relationship. ”Warner, at least in years past, has ignored Mr. Silver at its own peril. Six years ago, Jeff Robinov, then a top production executive at the studio, was hospitalized after a motorcycle accident. As he recovered, Mr. Robinov heard that Mr. Silver was exaggerating the severity of the accident — and telling people that Mr. Robinov was unable to function. When Mr. Robinov asked Mr. Silver why he was doing this, the producer said it was because the Warner executive hadn’t been returning his calls promptly.” Robinov better watch his back now.
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Well, look at it this way – no one will ever have to see him wandering around the WB lot wearing those stupid looking pink Hawaiian shirts ever again.
Hey now, nothing wrong with Aloha shirts (as they are properly called) – and pink ones at that!
Joel has plenty of money he has amazing real estate and art collections he’d be fine if he never earned another dollar from Hollywood but he’d have to sell the things he prizes most and live more modestly. His problem is he wants things to be the way they were 20 years ago when he was at the height of his power and prestige. He’s right that he no longer fits in he’s a walking talking relic of a bygone age but he was always like that. He should have been producing movies in the 1950′s or even the 1940′s he’d have been much happier in Old Hollywood.
All that money, real estate, art…..I’m wondering how much of that he acquired on that money the studio fronted him.
He earned every penny.
Fascinating fascinating fascinating.
Yeah, a tough-but-fair piece, very well-written.
The kind of well-informed article The LA Times used to write way back in the day.
It would also be a mistake to read this as Joel Silver’s obituary.
Who cares? Does he even know how to make the kind of movie he used to
be able to put together anymore? It is like hearing that Alan Carr
doesn’t have a deal at Paramount. Sherlock Holmes could have been
a smart and entertaining franchise.
Uhm, Sherlock Holmes IS a smart and entertaining franchise. Downey Jr. and Law were a perfect pairing and the style of the films were awesome.
It says a lot about Warners that when the studio finally severs its relationship with a guy who has been on corporate welfare for 15 years, it does so not out of fiscal responsibility, but because he failed to heed the code of Omerta that the studio lives by.
The severing was going on and would have been inevitable, least of which is Silver would have erupted sooner or later anyway. Everybody prefers to wash their, sometimes very, dirty laundry in private but public spats and tantrums are part and parcel of this business. You hit the nail on the head with your “guy who has been on corporate welfare for 15 years” bit. It’s no longer a desired business model from the funder’s side.
Good post, eve.
Joel Silver is a titan in this industry and will do just fine. It’s no coincidence that Joel has had so many monstrous hits over the years. He may live a lavish lifestyle but he’s earned it and he has a few more blockbuster franchises in him yet. WB should be naming buildings after him, not letting him leave.
Like me, Joel’s getting too old for this shit.
They already have a building named after him. The Commissary.
Eventually, all Titans are locked in Tartarus.
Nikki, when it comes to writing this kind of lengthy analytical profile, you do it better – faster, smarter, more elegantly – than anyone else. Thank you. This is why I read your site, for this kind of piece.
Things I won’t lose sleep over.
The irony here of course is that despite this ‘drama’ Joel will almost certainly still make movies at WB they just won’t have him walking around the lot in those loud shirts everyday.
With someone like Joel, whose slate is so deeply ingrained into WB’s history, there is no way that he WON’T do business there ever again. Given the way the studio business has gone it’s almost certain that the likes of Lethal Weapon etc will come back at some point as a ‘remake, reboot, yadda-yadda-yadda’…..
And personally I think that Silver will have something of a career renaissance becoming the next Avi Lerner making 80′s style action films (with dubious funding) for the international market. It’s the sort of film he’s always made and the sort of film that WB doesn’t really want anymore.
But at the end of the day, when push came to shove, I think Jeff and Warners wanted Joel’s office space for someone else joining the lot and so he had to go……
I wonder if someone like Chuck Roven is in Joel’s office at this very moment with a notepad and measuring tape…
Awesome reporting Nikki. You’re the best!
The inevitable thing about Hollywood is that everyone declines and falls eventually. The other inevitable is that when you’re on your way down, the problem isn’t your enemies who will naturally be ecstatic, it’s the people you thought were your friends. It’s amazing how much of a stranger you become when your star begins to fade. Good luck, Jo-Jo.
How does Nikki write up such fantastic, lengthy, comprehensive, and fact filled articles in so short time??
Yeah, there are hundreds of other hitmakes in this town NOT! Power struggles waste the limited talent pool our town has. If we could all make billions at the box office we would. Joel should be running the studios making the risky cinema we love not looking for buildings in Santa Monica. C’mom Joel show em what they’re missing.
Sure, cause SHERLOCK was sure risky, a big budget action movie with IRON MAN based on a character everyone knows.
I do give him props for V FOR VENDETTA though!!!
Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows was marketed perfectly well. The problem there was the script and the rush-job feel of the finished product, not Warners’ “positioning.”
Very smart of Silver to keep Meyer’s daughter on the payroll.
Dark Castle? Ugh! Almost as bad as Platinum Dunes when it comes to horror remakes.
Does this mean no sequel to WHITEOUT?
Nikki, was hoping you’d mention Silver’s production of GYPSY with Streisand — which is at Universal anyway. Who’d they hire to direct? Is it Spielberg??
Who would believe that the producers and creators of ET and Die Hard are now relics. How the promise of Dreamworks will be remembered as just that a promise!!! The building of a giant studio complex at the Hughes Property to a one movie a year production company. And Joel ranting and raving about the lack of snow for Die Hard 2. Making the decision on a whim to move a film company to Michigan without telling the studio. The top of the heap is long gone for these two. A generational change has taken place. The financial underpinnings for their antics is long gone. But Thanks for the memories. Bettheduck
it’s about time! and between a few hits there were a ton of flops and almost no good films. The business changed a long time ago and good for Jeff for not putting up with it anymore.
There’s nothing wrong with Silver. The guy was smart enough 10 years ago to go after low-budget horror movies with Z. as his bread-and-butter business. Look at tent-poles these days … very few make money; and a bomb every once in awhile is sobering for everyone. Studios will be lining up to get a production deal in place.
He started me in the business way back when and it turned out that he would be the most original person I would ever meet in this business (even if he did take a few pages from David Selznick). “48 Hrs” and “Die Hard” were as much his creations as the directors and they both changed the movie landscape. And I never had more fun working on a movie than the guilty pleasure that is “Road House”!
This will only make him work more efficiently. Looking forward to seeing what he does next!
Always interesting to read whats going on behind the scenes in hollywood – oh and SPEED RACER ROCKS!!!
Good riddance.
Yeah, Speed Racer was pretty awesome.
Totally got screwed in the marketing.
Can’t blame the marketing on that one. It quite simply was a movie that appealed to NO ONE over 8 years old. If you’re going to make a movie like that, at least realize that the people who have any idea what Speed Racer is are now 50+ years old. As an example of what I’m talking about: imagine they did a Batman movie tomorrow and stylized it along the lines of the original TV series. That would be stupid, you say? Exactly.