May 18-20 Weekend Actuals
1. Marvel’s The Avengers (Disney) Week 3 [4,249 Runs] PG13
Friday $15.2M, Saturday $23.6M, Sunday $16.8M Weekend $55.6M (-46%), Cume $457.7 M2. Battleship (Universal) NEW [3,690 Runs] PG13
Friday $8.8M, Saturday $9.7M, Sunday $7.0M Weekend $25.5M3. The Dictator (Paramount) NEW-Wed [3,008 Runs] R
Friday $5.7M, Saturday $6.7M, Sunday $5.1M, Weekend $17.4M, Cume $24.5M4. Dark Shadows (Warner Bros) Week 2 [3,755 Runs] PG13
Friday $3.8M, Saturday $5.3M, Sunday $3.5M, Weekend $12.6M (-58%), Cume $50.7M5. What To Expect When You’re Expecting (Lionsgate) NEW [3,021 Runs] PG13
Friday $3.8M, Saturday $4.1M, Sunday $2.6M, Weekend $10.5M6. Best Exotic Marigold Hotel (Fox Searchlight) Week 3 [354 Runs] PG13
Friday $873K, Saturday $1.4M, Sunday $1M, Weekend $3.2M (+21%), Cume $8.2M7. The Hunger Games (Lionsgate) Week 9 [2,064 Runs] PG13
Friday $824K, Saturday $1.3M, Sunday $855K, Weekend $3.0M (-35%), Cume $392M8. Think Like A Man (Screen Gems/Sony) Week 5 [1,722 Runs] PG13
Friday $807K, Saturday $1.2M, Sunday $678K Weekend $2.7M (-54%), Cume $85.8M9. The Lucky One (Warner Bros) Week 5 [2,055 Runs] PG13
Friday $598K, Saturday $733K, Sunday $447K Weekend $1.8M (-57%), Cume $56.9M10. Pirates! Band Of Misfits (Aardman/Sony) Week 4 [1,840 Runs] PG
Friday $353K, Saturday $652K, Sunday $573K Weekend $1.6M (-50%), Cume $25.5M
SUNDAY AM, 7TH UPDATE: These official Friday, Saturday, and weekend numbers for North America are way worse than anyone expected. Every film tanked except Marvel’s The Avengers which keeps sucking
all the air out of the box office for the 3rd straight weekend. Demonstrating just how disastrous the new movies opened, audiences gave Universal’s Battleship only a ‘B’ CinemaScore, Lionsgate’s What To Expect When You’re Expecting a ‘B-’, and Paramount’s The Dictator a ‘C’. And yet none of the affected studio moguls expect to lose their jobs. At Universal, Peter Berg’s military vs aliens actioner did only John Carter-low grosses for high cost (which is why the star of both pics, Taylor Kitsch, will be asking “You want fries with that?” very shortly). But Battleship already made $230M internationally, thus mitigating its $209+ budget and advance bad buzz in North America. At Paramount, Sacha Baron Cohen’s Middle East spoof also is showing modest strength overseas to mitigate its much smaller $65M-$70M cost. And at Lionsgate, a financial partner put its production exposure under $30M which was cut almost in half by international presales for the high-profile cast including J-Lo and Cameron Diaz. ”Our risk on the film is therefore very low,” the studio boasted to me. Which just goes to show that creating crap rejected by domestic audiences comes with few consequences for those in charge — unless you’re at Disney where John Carter made one head roll. Meanwhile, Marvel’s The Avengers will become the highest grossing domestic release in Disney’s history. Joss Whedon’s superhero assembly is already the studio’s highest grossing film of all time globally, and will pass the $450M mark this weekend. It is currently the #6 film of all time globally, the #10 film of all time domestically, and the #9 film of all time internationally (not adjusted for higher ticket prices, premium 3D sales, or inflation). The latest foreign gross is $682.6M and domestic $460M for a global cume of $1.142.6M. Overall moviegoing this weekend is looking like $140M, which is -12% from last year.
Here’s the Top Ten (ranked by Friday grosses):
1. Marvel’s The Avengers (Disney) Week 3 [4,349 Runs] PG13
Friday $15.3M, Saturday $24M, Weekend $55.0M, Cume $450.0M
2. Battleship (Universal) NEW [3,690 Runs] PG13
Friday $9.0M, Saturday $10.0M, Weekend $25.3M
3. The Dictator (Paramount) NEW-Wed [3,008 Runs] R
Friday $5.7M, Saturda $6.7M, Weekend $17.0M, Cume $24.0M
4. Dark Shadows (Warner Bros) Week 2 [3,755 Runs] PG13
Friday $3.7M, Saturday $5.1M, Weekend $12.5M (-58%), Cume $50.7M
5. What To Expect When You’re Expecting (Lionsg) NEW [3,021 Runs] PG13
Friday $3.8M, Saturday $4.1M, Weekend $10.3M
6. Best Exotic Marigold Hotel (Fox Searchlight) Week 3 [354 Runs] PG13
Friday $872K, Saturday $1.4M, Weekend $3.5M, Cume $8.5M
7. The Hunger Games (Lionsgate) Week 9 [2,064 Runs]
Friday $820K, Saturday $1.3M, Weekend $2.8M, Cume $391.4M
8. Think Like A Man (Screen Gems/Sony) Week 5 [1,722 Runs] PG13
Friday $800K, Saturday $1.2M, Weekend $2.7M, Cume $85.9M
9. The Lucky One (Warner Bros) Week 5 [2,055 Runs] PG13
Friday $585K, Saturday $750K, Weekend $1.7M, Cume $56.9M
10. Pirates! Band Of Misfits (Aardman/Sony) Week 4 [1,840 Runs] PG
Friday $340K, Saturday $700K, Weekend $1.6M, Cume $25.5M
FRIDAY 6:15 PM, 3RD UPDATE: Paramount claims that The Dictator will finish the domestic weekend with $15M and Lionsgate’s What To Expect When You’re Expecting with $12M. That’s still incredibly disappointing for both films. But at least Sacha Baron Cohen’s Middle East spoof is showing modest strength overseas: the international cume for Wednesday and Thursday is $10.1M from 17 territories. ”We are either a confirmed or projected #1 in all territories, with the exception of Denmark,” the studio emails me. Paramount is projecting a $30M hail from 29 territories this weekend for a global cume of $45M. And the pic cost between $65M and $70M depending on whom I believe.
FRIDAY 4:30 PM, 2ND UPDATE: My sources don’t see any dramatic upticks in early numbers – yet. What a disaster at the North American box office this early summer weekend with everything from today and a week ago tanking except for Marvel’s The Avengers which should make another $55M. Universal’s Battleship is stuck at $9M-$11M today and $30M (which is around the same meager amount where Warner Bros’ Dark Shadows debuted last weekend and is on life support now). Paramount’s The Dictator which opened weakly Wednesday is completely falling apart even for an ‘R’ rated movie with just $12M. And Lionsgate’s What To Expect When You’re Expecting is beating it with $15M. Hollywood is in a very dark mood today — and I’m finding that the movie moguls are not appreciating my humor when I ask, “Are your bags packed?”
FRIDAY 7:45 AM: Universal’s Battleship is “certain to be soft,” according to my studio sources. ‘There’s no indication it’s going to break out and do huge numbers.” It opened with only $420K midnights from 1,074 theaters: that’s weaker than Warner Bros’ underperforming Dark Shadows last weekend and even Disney’s notorious 2012 bomb John Carter. Universal cautions that “both of those films have a bigger ‘geek base’” whereas the strength of Peter Berg’s military vs aliens actioner is “that it’s the anti-geek, anti-midnight movie of all time”. What does this mean? That the studio is hoping the patriotic pic does well in flyover country. It already has made $220M internationally, thus mitigating its $209+ budget and advance bad buzz in North America where Marvel’s mega-juggernaut The Avengers from Disney is still sucking all the air out of the box office. Meanwhile, Paramount’s The Dictator from Sacha Baron Cohen continues not to rule box office: it made only $2.8M Thursday after opening weak on Wednesday for a 2-day total of $7M. Now Baron Cohen’s Middle East spoof may not even be the #1 comedy in the marketplace this weekend: the latest news is that Lionsgate says it’s What To Expect When You’re Expecting romantic comedy which wasn’t tracking suddenly ticked up Thursday. “We got a nice bump which could put us ahead of The Dictator for the three-day weekend and hopefully put our weekend into the high teens,” an exec tells me. ”Our P&A spend and production costs are even less than The Dictator – and our cast made it to the Oscars without offending AMPAS. Ha.”
Marvel’s The Avengers on Thursday set a new domestic speed record, reaching the $400M box office threshold in 14 days. Worldwide, it has passed Toy Story 3 and Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest to become the #6 highest-grossing film of all time and the highest grossing Disney release ever. Internationally it is the #9 highest-grossing film of all time. So The Avengers’ cumulative performance to date consists of international box office $668.7M and domestic $402M for a global total of $1,070.7M. Additional highlights to date include: fastest film to reach $350M (10 days), $300M (9 days), $250M (6 days), $200M (3 days), $150M (3 days) and $100M (2 days) at domestic box office; Disney’s fifth release to cross the billion dollar global box office threshold; biggest domestic opening of all time ($207.4M); biggest domestic second weekend of all time ($103M); highest-grossing domestic film of 2012, passing The Hunger Games in just 12 days of release; the 12th highest grossing domestic release of all-time; highest domestic Saturday tally ($69.5M); highest domestic Sunday tally ($57M); second-highest domestic single-day tally ($80.8M).
WEDNESDAY PM/THURSDAY AM: From parading a camel down the
Cannes’ Croissette this week, to humiliating Ryan Seacrest on the Oscars’ Red Carpet last February, Sacha Baron Cohen hasn’t missed an opportunity to hype his latest character, Admiral General Aladeen. But it looks like his many publicity stunts for Paramount’s The Dictator worked better overseas than domestic. My sources say the R-rated spoof about a fictional Middle Eastern tyrant opened with just $4.5 million from 3,003 North American theaters on Wednesday, much weaker than the $5M to $6.5M that rival studios predicted the laugher would earn. Plus, audiences only gave it a ‘C’ CinemaScore which may adversely affect the pic’s word of mouth this weekend. Like all the major early summer movies, Baron Cohen’s film has an uphill battle because that mega 3D juggernaut Marvel’s The Avengers (4,000+ theaters) from Disney
keeps sucking the air out of the worldwide box office now that it has grossed $1B+. It’s still expected to be the #1 North American film for the third straight weekend, also swamping Universal’s Battleship (3,750 theaters) which is finally opening Friday in the U.S. and Canada after making $215.3M internationally over the past month. (Glub… Glub… Glub…) Avengers currently stands as the #9 film of all time globally, and the 13th highest grossing domestic release of all time (not adjusted for higher ticket prices or premium 3D or inflation). The film also just became the highest domestic grossing film of 2012, passing Lionsgate’s The Hunger Games in just 12 days of release. ”It’s an uphill battle here,” a Paramount exec admitted to me Wednesday. “But internatonally it’s ahead of the U.S. tracking, especially in Australia and the UK. The publicity does feel like it’s paying off overseas, especially that Oscar stunt which got huge pickup.”
Internationally, The Dictator opened #1 in Australia on Wednesday with $710K ahead of $350K for Avengers which is already entering its 3rd week of release down under. ”We had a very good start in Australia,” a Paramount exec gushed to me, noting that The Dictator’s debut was better than Bridesmaids‘ and Dark Shadows‘ there. Also opening on Wednesday were Germany and UK. In all, 29 overseas markets open this weekend. International tracking also has been stronger overseas than Baron Cohen’s two other starring vehicles: Borat did $128M domestic and $133M foreign, while Bruno did $60M and $80M foreign. “This film figures to be somewhere between those two on a global basis,” a Paramount exec emailed me.
Still, you have to wonder whether the disappointment in the abhorrent Bruno of Baron Cohen’s fans who loved the crassly hilarious Borat may hurt The Dictator‘s chances. So it may gross only low- to mid-$20sM for its five days in the U.S. and Canada. The good news for Paramount is that Baron Cohen’s film cost only $65M-$70M which is cheap for a summer tentpole. (Batttleship cost $209+M, and Dark Shadows $150+M…) The bad news is that the studio gave away between 25% to 30% to gross participants — primarily to Baron Cohen. ”Honestly, it’s just impossible to know right now,” admits a rival studio exec. “His movies never really track, so it’s hard to use that as a guide. But it doesn’t feel like it’s working to me, so we’ll see. Also, the way Bruno dropped from Friday to Saturday suggests we’ll see this very frontloaded regardless.” To be fair, the pic’s box office could conceivably pick up this weekend, especially because no other major comedy has momentum in the marketplace. Lionsgate’s What To Expect When You’re Expecting has been on life support tracking-wise even though it’s opening Friday in 3,021 theaters. Then again rom-coms are having a tough time of it lately… Fuller analysis in the morning.
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While I’m sure it’ll pick up a little over the weekend the dictator will underperform because (a) The avengers will crush everything in it’s path (b) People are sick of sacha baron cohen after the trainwreck that was Bruno (c) People are sick of this dictator character before his film even came out (d) It’s incredibly unclear from the trailer and marketing as to what the plot is meant to be and (e) there’s something a little off about a film about a tyrannical dictator that I imagine won’t fly well in the US.
I saw BATTLESHIP during lunch and have to say, it was pretty enjoyable. From Universal’s crappy marketing, I thought it looked like complete shit. But it’s actually fun in an INDEPENDENCE DAY kind of way. I have no idea if word-of-mouth can even overcome the shitty campaign, but it was popcorn fun. Believe me, I was surprised too…
i had the same experience. it’s not “the artist” but it’s a helluva lot better than “avengers”. that’s a true over-hyped piece of shit, if I’ve ever seen one. glad the billions of box office clearly disagree with me!
I too loved BATTLESHIP! Taylor Kitsch has shown he has what it takes to own a movie! I will definitely be keeping my eye on this young talent!
And the movie rocked! I feel sorry for people that can’t turn off their brain and enjoy a fun carnival ride of a movie!
Twists and turns I certainly did not see coming!
By the way, the audience I saw it with stood up and cheered at the end! I can’t wait to hear the words BATTLESHIP 2!
So thank you to anyone who was involved in this masterpiece for making my day a little more enjoyable!
Hilarious! You had me going until near the end, with Battleship 2! Well done.
I understand you’re just trying to support Taylor Kitsch here, but next time tone it down a tad, so it’s at least a little bit believable. As is, you sound like an infatuated girl.
Geez, most of the studio trolls on this site try to hide that fact when they’re overly self promoting a film, but not you! I need to give you respect for that. You’re out there, in our faces, spouting nonsense but at least you have the courage to do so without hiding your true identity!
All that was missing from your little press release was how many Oscars you predict it will win and how soon it will be selected for preservation in the Library of Congress. Hats off my friend, hats off.
“I feel sorry for people that can’t turn off their brain and enjoy a fun carnival ride of a movie!”
What a ridiculous statement. The problem nowadays is that all we get is carnival ride movies that can only be enjoyed with your brain turned off. It has gotten tiresome.
Yeah, I think she meant “the audience I saw it with stood up and left at the end.” You know, like all movies.
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It’s a joke to troll you. Mister Magoo is a cartoon of a blind man.
@Tedy: If you’re going to actually try to say that Battleship is ‘”a helluva lot better than “avengers”’ with a straight face than you need to be on the same drugs you were on for Battleship. You, sir, must be out of your mind.
Hey Surprised,
How did you “see it during lunch” if you posted this at 1pm? i guess you’re part of the production trying to blame this on Uni Marketing. So transparent. Hilarious.
Well, he could have watched it during lunch on the East coast, and made the post from a computer somewhere on the East coast.
It’s 1pm somewhere in this world at all times, right?
Ever hear of time zones? Or maybe they had an earlier lunch time due to working a 6a.m. til 4 p.m. shift. Don’t be so quick to accuse. Damn.
You do realize that this website is not just for people based in L.A., right?
No, he doesn’t: that’s what makes his comment funny.
Or, more accurately, her. Isn’t there a saying about rocks and glass houses or something? I guess I should have learnt it.
I live in New York City, Whistler. Maybe you’ve heard of it. We do this really cool thing here — we set our clocks 3 hours ahead of idiots like you. I know LA is so cool and all, and allows you to be super smart and intuitive as you spend your day reading comment boards on the internet, but we New Yorkers get to see the nightly news 3 hours ahead of you. And the sun goes up here approximately 3 hours earlier also. Shh! Please don’t tell anyone. It can be our little secret.
Not only do you set your clocks to a different time, you also get 2-1/2 hour lunches! I too wish to live in this “New York” place!
My only surprise at that was the length of his lunch hour. I saw it at 10:30 am Friday which would be *gasp!* 8 am West Coast time… and I promise I wasn’t eating breakfast during that time. lol!
There seem to be a lot of people here who don’t understand the nature of freelance work. You can take a three hour lunch sometimes because you often work until 3 in the morning and on weekends. This is what you get in exchange for not having health care.
Please stop about the marketing. “If only the marketing…”
It’s a lame movie. Nuff said.
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Many people at Uni will take the blame for Battleship EXCEPT for Donna Langley. Somehow she has managed to escape blame for all their bombs – instead the blame goes to others like Linde/Schmuger, Debbie Liebling, etc. Meanwhile, Donna politics her way out of harm’s way and continues to move upwards. When will NBC/Uni and Ron see what’s really going on??? These movies have all been on her watch – she has no one else to blame. Uni has only had a few hits while she’s been in charge, and the biggest one, Bridesmaids, lead to Kristin Wigg feeling slighted by the studio and deciding not to do a sequel – which would have been a huge money-maker.
Way to run a studio, Donna!!!
Nail on the head, Bette. It’s amazing to me what Langley gets away with. Okay, maybe not amazing, after all — this is Hollywood, where gravity’s reversed and everyone falls up — but you’ve got to wonder when someone up top gets the hint that she has terrible taste and even worse developmental skills. Maybe it’s the British accent fooling everybody…
i’m not a fan of sbc… didn’t see his earlier 2 films… but the plot to the dictator seems pretty clear… what don’t you get? and a comedy making fun of an a middle eastern dictator sounds funny… it’s not like he’s making him out to be a hero…
That’s not a plot, that’s a concept. If you think that’s clear you should stick to Battleship. My understanding from the odd marketing campaign is that it is a fish out of water flick in which the Dictator has to come to America and ends up broke and lost in the big city, he struggles to regain his position and invariably learns some important lessons about fairness and tolerance… yadda yadda. However had I not seen that one particular trailer that didn’t seem to play often I would be completely confused because the trailers that seem to be everywhere are horrific, show no notion of story, and aren’t funny.
I enjoyed it when Eddie Murphy did this movie.
I enjoyed it even more when Johnny Weismuller did it in “Tarzan in NY”, every thing that follows (Paul Hogan, Eddie Murphy) is derivative.
Exactly, Sweden. What Sasha has on the big screen is a drawn out CONCEPT, akin to a taffy-thin SNL skit turned into a lame feature length movie.
What Eddie Murphy/John Landis/Art Buchwald did is take a similar concept (Fish out of water — African prince comes to US) then layered it with themes of Murphy’s character in search of a definite, not abstract, goal (finding a woman he can marry) and, finally, raising the stakes by placing the milieu in the crime-ridden, nefarious Big Apple.
That’s why “Coming to America” was a solid comedy and Sasha’s movie will be heading to a Red Box at a 7 Eleven near you soon…. It’s amazing that Sasha gets Eddie Murphy money for his movies but his no where near Murphy or Bill Murray or Steve Carrell in terms of consistency of talent and material. Damn shame.
bobby the saint, I’m guessing you’re a “reader” or a blowhard assistant somewhere. Or maybe you just took a course in canned development executive bullshit lingo– “Raising the stakes by placing the milieu in the crime-ridden, nefarious Big Apple.”
“Coming to America” was a solid comedy. And Eddie was the biggest comic in America/the world at the time and “CTA” was made. It was a much safer, softer comedy and it played to the safe middle. The Dictator was an edgy comedy by an edgy comic whose polarizing and makes edgy, daring movies, not because of your “group think” comments. And your concern that Sacha making as much money as other comics is a “damn shame” points up everything that’s wrong with “creative” executives today. It’s all about money.
Is “edgy” a code word for “crappy”?
If you readers learn nothing else, please drink from the fount of wisdom that is Angel Artiste’s comment. That, people, is what we call a threadwinner.
stick to battleship? um… why do you think i have an interest in battleship? i dont even have an interest in the dictator.
and i didn’t write that i thought the idea of making fun of the middle eastern dictator was the plot… i know what the plot is from the trailer… you were the one having trouble… i used the word AND when i was writing about it mocking a dictator… that means it was a related but different subject. do you understand? sorry if you have trouble understanding these things. perhaps we should cease all communication. it might be best.
I really don’t think Americans are ready yet to laugh at jokes about blowing up our planes and buildings. Cohen may think so, but he’s not from here. I think the reason Borat worked was because the main character was actually a sweet, bumbling endearing soul. Bruno sucked because the protagonist was a vain, self-centered douche. Similarly, the Dictator does not seem like a likeable character. Cohen can get away with his disgusting humor if the characters are likeable. That’s why Bridesmaids worked. And, why I suspect, this won’t.
To paraphrase from Sally Field to SBC – ‘We don’t like you. We really don’t like you’. Agree that the Borat character was rather sweet, but gradually the characters and BC seem more unlikable, irritating and just not fun to be with. And these days, money and time being what they are, we don’t want to spend ours with someone who is that off putting.
Like many people who get a huge taste of success, they either don’t realize or quickly forget why we love(d) them and slide quickly into Self Indulgence Land.
I’d like to also point out that romcoms are having trouble because they are always written so darn horribly.
This town takes a lot of heat for its clueless development execs and studio personnel, for its talentless actors. Fact is, the writers are consistently giving us terrible scripts. Just awful, awful writing. There are only a handful of writers in town who are not hacks.
Romantic comedies make money. But the who the heck is really going to go out and spend money on WHAT TO EXPECT? Parents? The same parents who don’t have time to get out to theaters, and would rather rent something like this? It’s terribly written and directed film.
If it were actually a good romcom, people would go see it.
THINK LIKE A MAN only got 50% on RT, but there was a reason for audiences to go see it — an underserved market. Seeing another one of these large cast, cash grab films only reminds people of VALENTINE’S DAY and NEW YEAR’S EVE.
Give us good romantic comedies. Is there anyone out there who can write? I’m not talking about terrible scripts like THE MUSEUM OF BROKEN RELATIONSHIPS and other garbage masquerading as romantic comedy. I’m talking about romcoms with snappy dialogue that moms and daughters want to go see.
DS, I have to ask what it is that you do? You say “This town takes a lot of heat for its clueless development execs and studio personnel, for its talentless actors. Fact is, the writers are consistently giving us terrible scripts.”
By “us” do you mean the movie-going public? Or are you a development exec or one of the studio personnel you mention? Because it has been my experience that the romantic comedies being churned out by the studios lately (and I agree they are largely terrible) tend to emerge from the development process a ghost of their former selves. The writers I know DO submit good scripts, often full of nuance and edge, only to be noted to death by executives who turn anything remotely original into “Failure to Launch.” They pepper those poor scripts with set pieces and tired comedic tropes in order to justify their jobs and in so doing water down the next “When Harry Met Sally” until it is unrecognizable and then cast whomever just proved themselves at the box office, regardless of whether or not they are right for the part OR have chemistry with the other lead. Case in point: last year’s “No Strings Attached,” starring Natalie Portman and Ashton Kutcher. The writer of this box office dog is Elizabeth Meriwether, wunderkind behind Fox hit “New Girl.” Her original script “fuckbuddies” was smart and cracking, and it was transformed into a gelatinous mass of mediocrity by the development process.
Saying that there are only a handful of writers in town who are not hacks is myopic.
Well said. Couldn’t agree more. If you think the problem is ‘not enough good writers’ you obviously don’t read many freshly sold spec scripts.
Obviously you are Elizabeth Meriwether’s mom, agent or best friend. No Strings Atttached sucked because it was a generic piece of crap just like the TV show New Girl which is cloying and obnoxious. Her original may have been better, BUT, Friends With Benefits, the EXACT same movie was clearly superior, much better writing, acting and actually did very well at the box office. Fuckbuddies was not exactly an original idea, and the better of the two scripts one..don’t blame execs.
Um…NO STRINGS ATTACHED did $15 mil more business than FRIENDS WITH BENEFITS. Just sayin’.
Uh well you guys are both wrong about one thing. No Strings Attached was successful. It made $70 million. And Friends with Benefits actually did worse, in the 50s, I think.
If the WGA would get its thumb out of its ass and educate people about what happens between the moment a writer turns in a script and the moment the film is released in theatres, you might not get dopey comments like this one.
And I don’t mean a billboard with Winnie Holzman or Callie Khouri on it.
For the benefit of the earlier poster…I am writing in Pacific Standard Time. Apparently we need to point out that there are time zones.
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From what I’m told, every studio is iffy on doing original romantic comedies.
How ” What to expect when you’re expecting” got made is a perfect example of this. It was BASED ON A BOOK. Executives are afraid to be original and a title with any name recognition is a safer bet to them than trying something new or original. I don’t want kids and would not want to see this movie. “What to expect when you’re expecting” has zero appeal to me. My friends with kids want to ESCAPE being parents and go to the movies…why would they want to see this? They live it. Any moron could figure this out…but it doesn’t matter. It had a recognizable title….pregnancy is not uniquely American so they think there could be foreign appeal…so to them it is a safe bet and it moves up the ladder. This is how they think. Even with “What to expect…” bombing they will continue to think the exact same way.
Women are DYING for something with a good looking guy, some fun, and some romance. How hard is that? Seriously. How hard is that? At best we’ll get something with Seth Rogan as the love interest. OR we get two handsome guys fighting over Reese Witherspoon but it’s not romantic…they spy on her and treat her like an object. OR we get “The Awful Truth” with a gorgeous girl unable to get a guy. Romance is only allowed if it’s in a cloying Nicholas Sparks movie. It’s all depressing.
*****Please listen studio execs******
My female friends (I’m 34 but my friends range in age from 25-55) both mothers and non-mothers want :
1) a good looking guy 2) some romance 3) some fun. I don’t get why this is so hard to deliver. Can someone please accommodate?! We don’t care if it is based on a book. Put a good looking guy on the poster and a make it look like it might be a fun movie and the women aren’t debased. We’ll be there. I swear.
I think you’ve got a point here. What to Expect When You’re Expecting sounds more like a Lifetime movie. Or something Oprah should put on OWN.
Or, put it on Bravo and market it as a horror movie.
What is it this word you say, “plot”?
A movie based on a board game? Hollywood ran out of tv shows, old movies, and video games for ideas. Robot Chicken predicted this 6 years ago, using hungry hungry hippos, and chutes and ladders. Prolly on u-toob somewhere.
I agree, except for being sick of Cohen after Bruno. I’ve been sick of him long before that.
I bet The Dictator was tough to market.
Just from the trailers and ads, I still can’t tell if the movie is supposed to be the usual raunchy fare, a witty satirical political piece, or a harmless broad comedy.
Also, the jokes from the trailers were pretty predictable, run-of-the-mill. An oppressive tyrant starts listing off progressive ideals (like democracy, women’s voting rights, etc.) and gives the ol’ “pppfffff I couldn’t get through that with a straight face!” Or John C Reilly’s Anglo-Saxon character riffing on the likelihood of Aladeen’s cousins pulling a 9/11 on the Empire St Building. These are frat house jokes.
Maybe the movie is actually a lot funnier than the trailers, but either way, I’m not sure that marketing did its job to put butts in seats.
It’s a rom-com, brah
Does anyone doubt now that the Avengers could actually reach 800 million domestic?
I do. If it sticks close to the track of other early may blockbusters like Spiderman and Iron Man, it will finish around $650+ million. It is possible that it will hold better because it doesn’t have a highly anticipated film to compete with anytime soon (only Battleship and MIB3). Spiderman had 3rd weekend competition in Star Wars II’s opening. Iron Man faced Narnia 2 in it’s 3rd weekend and Indiana Jones 4′s opening in it’s 4th.
Are you really putting The Avengers in the same league as either Spider-Man or Batman (as if it’s box office returns haven’t already shown that it’s not only another animal entirely, but a leggy one at that)?
And considering that it’s almost at $400 million domestically, and has been out for less than three weeks, then that $800 million dollar figure by Albooone is an entirely realistic estimate.
You are clueless.
For THE AVENGERS to hit 800 million, it would have to DOUBLE its current total. The film is on its way to gross about 55 million this weekend, dropping nearly 45%.
Now it’s your turn to explain us how the film will mamange to do that – to gross another 400 million. Which you won’t do, because it is impossible.
It will be intersting how they can mcmanage that.
Titanic didn’t open strong, but followed with weekends upon weekends of $25 million grosses. Avengers only has Prometheus to conted with before Spidey swings in. Quite possible for repeats and word of mouth to carry this super teamup through July. Probably not gonna happen – but possible. DKR and the other July releases will probably punt Avengers out of available theaters.
I thought Avengers was just a bit better than okay. Weak opening act, good middle act, but the third act rocked. The character-development needed the long running time, but if anything, that long running timehasnhurt it’s upfront showings. $650 million a more likely US take. This is a true superhero movie, while Nolan’s Dark Knight transcends fantasy, so his audience is broader. The New Spidey will disappoint from the originals.
You are forgetting MIB3 next week.
MIB3… funny!
Gustavo, I think you’re right. You mamanged to persuade me.
I am. Spiderman has a lot of parallels to Avengers. It was the first to cross $100 million opening weekend (same weekend in 2002 as Avengers crossed $200 mil), it set the 2nd weekend record ($71 million)and it was embraced by every sector of the market. In fact, Spiderman had better second and third weekend holds than the Avengers.
Very few big movies manage to double their B.O. after it’s first 2 weeks. We’ll see how Avengers holds across the summer. I think it will finish just north of $600 million. It’s an excellent film.
You forgot to mention both films are CGI crapfests…
THE AVENGERS is going to pass every BATMAN film. How clueless are YOU?
And which BATMAN film grossed 800 million in the US?
Pay attention to the conversation before dropping your bombs of idiocy.
Highly doubt that Battleship is any threat to Avengers.
In other words Avengers could overperform even more, asuming MIB3 also slightly underperforms.
Every person educated on the subject of box-office does.
800 millon??? Really?? Look at the diminishing returns of the weekend box office. Don’t have to be in the know for box office tracking to understand math based upon its last 3 weeks. The weekend box diminishes by 50% every weekend. That would put this picture in the 535-560. Look at past box office hits and you will see that a great percentage in the money they make is in the first 4 weeks. To say the domestic total will double just isn’t possible. All you have to do is look at all the data on boxofficemojo to back up these figures.
“The weekend box diminishes by 50% every weekend. That would put this picture in the 535-560. ”
THE AVENGERS is going to EASILY top that figure. Won’t even be close. That’s why you simply can’t go by GENERAL stats when this movie is bucking trends of huge openers by having moderate drops and solid weekday showings.
The diminishing returns tend to decrease as time goes on. That is to say, 50% will change to 40-45% this weekend and will probably be 35-40% next weekend. I’m comparing the numbers to Iron Man’s and Spiderman’s drop-off.
We’ll see about this weekend. Early guesses for the second weekend were $85-$95 million and it ended at $103 million. So, Nikki’s sources say $53 mil and I’ll go with $60 mil.
Still based on the math there is no way 800 million, hell not even 700 million is even feasible. The math doesn’t add up and the numbers that being thrown out are not even educated guesses. Even though I am sure MI3 is garbage it will take a bigger bite out of the 4th weekend. To say Avengers can muster over 600 million is not out of realm of possibility but if it does it will be in the 12th-14th week + area. 800 million is just not realistic.
Still based on the math there is no way 800 million, hell not even 700 million is even feasible. The math doesn’t add up and the numbers that being thrown out are not even educated guesses. Even though I am sure MI3 is garbage it will take a bigger bite out of the 4th weekend. To say Avengers can muster over 600 million is not out of realm of possibility but if it does it will be in the 12th-14th week + area. 800 million is just not realistic. The movie is slowing down and not by Avatar’s insane holdover drop off percentages. I get that most people are excited about this success, I know I am. I just don’t like unrealistic math having followed the box office for some time. Internationally who knows how high this thing can go but with a very competitive summer movie season to have one movie dominate with these decent but not unheard of drop offs this is still not possible.
I totally agree. $700+ is ridiculous. I think it’ll clear $600 by a decent margin though.
I’d go by The Dark Knights numbers for a reference to the bottom end of where Avengers numbers will be. So as of Sunday, the Avengers crossed the 450 million mark, day 17. It took TDK 27 days to reach that number, and then it went on to make 83 million dollars more.
So I’d add about 100 million plus to that number for the Avengers from 27 on. Avengers 530 to 540 on day 27. So I’d guess it will be in the 650-700 million dollar range.
This is what I mean by silly math. Taking the Dark Knight box office numbers. Add 10 days to the frame and I think I am being generous with these numbers:
Mon-Thurs 15 million
4th weekend 35 million
Mon-Wed 10 millon
Okay so now we are at 515 million. You stated that Dark Knight went on to make 83 million which is roughly 18% more to finish off its run. 515 x 1.18 = is 607 million and again I was generous with my numbers. WHERE IN THE HELL DID YOU PEOPLE LEARN YOU’RE MATH SKILLS???? 700 million?? I want what you are drinking cause it must be good!
Ohh and before I hear about how the Avengers are bucking box office trends left and right TDK had a solid 10% better holdover audience into week 2 that the Avengers did. I am not a hater of this movie, I have seen it twice, but learn some god damn math skills or at the very least look at your data on boxofficemojo before you go spouting numbers that can never be.
It’s silly to compare Avengers to DK. Avengers is an Early May opener while DK opened in July. The dynamics are completely different between those two months. If you want to compare numbers, then use other early May films like: Spiderman, Gladiator, X2, Iron Man. Iron Man and Spiderman are the closest in content and reception so we’ll use them. Iron Man’s first 17 days represented 70% of its total, while Spiderman’s was 70.7%. PRETTY SIMILAR HEY!
Now, by translating those numbers to Avengers we can guess it will make a further ~$195 million and finish around $650 million.
Almost like magic…lol
I stand by my prediction and I factored everything in before your simpleton account. It’s Memorial day weekend next week so that’s why I expect big things from The Avengers.
I said ‘a 100 million PLUS’ beyond day 27(why the hell wouldn’t it make 100 million with 3D ticket prices) so that’s where I came up with 650-700. Yeah I factored in the time of year it’s being released, that’s why I’m not even bringing up Avatar, even though Avengers ahead of that film at this time, because that was released in December and had the Oscar buzz to get a slight bump deep in its run.
And I think Avengers will benefit from being released in May than say a film in July. Sure, there was little competition for TDK late in its run, but there are a lot more movie attendance in June. Next week there will only be one film above it MIB3, so it should maintain it’s theater count. Looking at the films released in early June, Avengers should hold it’s own.
Saw it last night at the 8:00 pm show. 15% full. No one laughed at the jokes that
were so played out in the trailers. (Him running the marathon shoothing gun..)
The movie was meh…not the same manic insane
energy from Borat or even Bruno.
This is Sasha’s Love Guru meets Zohan.
A extended painfully unfunny SNL skit that is trying way to hard.
I predict many bombs/dissapointments this summer to come…This being just the
start next to the boring Dark Shadows.
Prometheus (with it’s muddled confusing seizure inducing trailer) may be one of them
A Friend thought it was a remake of Event Horizon.
Not everyone logs on to Aint It Cool News
Prometheus won’t shoot out of the gate, but I think it will be solid with good word-of-mouth.
I don’t read AICN anymore, although the comments section of Deadline has almost as bad a reputation.
Everyone I know is stoked about Prometheus. Avengers, Batman Prometheus are the big three this summer. I’d worry more about Spider-Man which no one I know is all that interested in.
Spider-Man should do “OK”.
- Popular and recognizable character.
- Only Major July 4th Release
- 3D and IMAX Ticket Prices.
That *should* be enough to partially compensate for any declines.
Domestically, I’ve been placing my bets on it ending the 180-250 range. Enough to put it in low end of 2012′s top ten, and enough for the addition of international box office to justify that sequel they’re already working on.
Prometheus, I’d say, it the bigger wild card this summer.
- R-rated. (Which limits the audience who can attend.)
- Coming out against one of the first animated family films of the summer. (And could end up helping that other film via underage sneak-ins.)
- Not relying on its recognizable brand in its marketing.
- The people who DO know what it’s about are absolutely rabid… which could end up hurting the film it it fails to live up to expectations.
I think it has a better shot at being good than most of this summer’s flicks, but man, does it have some odds to overcome at the box office…
Spiderman will be much better than the cryfest that Sam Rami turned them into. This version actually follows the comics and doesnt “reinvent” characters and villians.
Dictator earned a C on Cinemascore so opening on Wednesday will make a bad situation worse. Also, Paramount needs to learn how to spend less on opening a summer comedy. I know they will throw out some BS about only $25 but anyone who has seen their media weight will know otherwise.
Saw it yesterday. Rather, I suffered through it.
The Dictator is a one joke film that was even worse than I thought it would be. Too bad, because it could have been really funny, and I was definitely in the mood for some laughs. It was like a really, really bad SNL sketch.
I just saw The Dictator with a packed house at the 8:05 Saturday night show at Arclight Beach Cities, “Maverick” (I assume the moniker is ironic). There were HUGE laughs from top-to-bottom. Like “Something About Mary”/”Hangover” laughs. Did you watch it alone in your snide little screening room? Calling it “a really, really bad SNL sketch” is telling of how little you know about comedy.
I don’t know why it didn’t open bigger. All of the press in character may have hurt it. While many of the jokes/laughs were politically incorrect, its theme/ending was certainly politically correct. There many smart jokes that were certainly not one note. The speech about at the end about why America should be a dictatorship was fantastic satire.
My opinion withstanding, it KILLED in the theater I saw it in! You should see it again, but this time take the stick out of your ass.
Snakes On A Camel.
I’m not sure what the film is supposed to be, but it doesn’t really matter. I find Cohen so obnoxious, watching him prance around is worse than getting slivers under my fingernails.
I saw Cohen interviewed as himself on the Today Show, which was a breath of fresh air after seeing him again and again as the Wadiyan despot. It would be good to see him stay out there for the next couple weeks doing more appearances as the real Sacha Baron Cohen. Too many movie stars stop doing PR about five seconds after a movie opens.
Everyone is talking anxiously about The Dictator and it’s opening weekend numbers but no one, and I mean NO ONE, is talking about Battleship, the most expensive film Universal has EVER made.
How is it that a film that cost AT LEAST $250-275m to produce is generating so little column inches considering how poorly it’s tracking. People tore John Carter to pieces when it misfired but there has been near radio silence on Battleship.
Could it be that this particular dud has more riding on it than just how many millions the studio will have to write off.
One tracking service has it opening at just $27m over the three days!!! We shall all have to wait and see where the chips shall fall.
I’ve noticed that too – most likely Battleship will earn only slightly more than John Carter, both had similar budgets, yet everybody’s giving it a pass. What gives people? Is Battleship going to bankrupt Universal or sth? Or are you all feeling sorry for Taylor Kitsch?
BATTLESHIP has already made more money overseas than JOHN CARTER ($215 mil vs. $200 mil)
BATTLESHIP’s budget wasn’t as high as JOHN CARTER ($209 vs $250 mil).
Do the math.
Battleship is at the end of its international run, and while it (supposedly) cost less than JC, promotional costs were supposedly much greater. All in all the budgets are comparable and its peformance is only a little better.
As is, Battleship will be at least a 100+ mil write-off for Universal. So you do the math.
Taylor Kitsch sucks. I hope these duds are the end of him getting cast in major roles.
For some reason, Donna langley gets a pass for every bomb at Uni – and she has had more than her share of them – yet she keeps getting promoted. She is like Typhoid Mary. Go figure.
People were already predicting that ‘Battleship’ would bomb when it was first announced. I’m sure there will be plenty of “I told you so” blog posts out by the end of the weekend.
And many, many, many lame “You sunk my Battleship!” headlines by reporters who act like they’re the only ones to have thought of it.
I think one of the reasons for this is that no one and I mean NO ONE really expects the movie to do well domestically. Now it did make $220m overseas and it’s finally being released here in the U.S. but it already feels like yesterday’s news.
I don’t usually wish ill will on any movie but Battleship just seems grossly obnoxious. It’s the type of movie that tries to follow a formula to guarantee success and that just doesn’t resonate well with U.S. audiences.
I think the reason is because Battleship has already made over $200 mill outside of the US,also the reported(box office mojo)budget is slightly less $209 mill compared to John Carter’s $250.
I’ve read Battleship (maybe even on here?) already made its money back overseas.. So domestic gross and holiday Blu Ray sales in the Fall are gravy?
Nope. You read wrong. Battleship still has a long way to go to breakeven.
Please explain your logic. BATTLESHIP cost $209 million. It grossed $270 million overseas already. It looks to gross $45 million opening week. Now that looks to me like it has already made over $100 million and then some.
Joyce, here’s the logic: cinemas don’t work as charities. The have their own bills to pay. Cinemas take about 50% of what the movie takes. So, in fact, if Battleship makes 300M it the studio will only get more like 150M. Then, of course, there’s such thing as marketing expenses (100M or so). The only way Battleship can justify its existence (and maybe a sequel) is by sending the sales of the board game through the roof.
If you’re posting a comment about movie performance & profitability on this site, you should be aware of the basic economics of the movie industry – in that the box office receipts are split between the theaters and studios (or Producers – less a distribution fee). The production budget numbers are also often under-stated on big budget films, and they don’t include marketing/distribution costs, which can often equal or even exceed the production costs.
Hence the (very) general rule of thumb that a film needs to make more than 2X it’s budget to hit a break-even point. (Of course with ancillary revenue, this is a fluid figure, as the returns vary wildly with each project).
Joyce,
Every film is different, but a good rule of thumb is the studio/distributor collects 55% of domestic B.O. and 40% of international B.O.
Battleship has (by my numbers) collected ~$86 mil internationally and $14 mil domestically (assuming $25 mil weekend)
Another thing to consider is the “Prints and Advertising” budget (P&A). The MPAA reported the average P&A budget for Major studio releases in 2006 was $34.5 mil. So whatever the Production budget is you’ll still have to include another $50 mil or more for P&A.
My numbers add up to $100 mil revenue and $275ish mil cost. That’s $175 mil in the hole!
Cheers joyce
Battleship had bad buzz the minute it was greenlighted into a major movie. Once people found out the movie was based on the board game, they had a hard time figuring out what the heck it was going to be about; is it going to be a WWII style war movie, a movie about a rogue Russian sub, etc? Then when it came out that it was going to be about evil extra-terrestrial aliens, people already made up their minds that it was not worth their time. Combine that with all the jokes about other toys/games possibly being made into movies (Candy Land, Hungry Hungry Hippos, Chutes and Ladders, Simon), and the fact The Avengers is sucking the excitement away from all the other movies, and Battleship was doomed to failure.
As for The Dictator, Sascha Baron Cohen has already shown his humor to be rather polarizing, so either you love him or hate him. And a lot of his stunts prior to the release of this movie already turned off a lot of his potential audience. Then the marketing of this movie clearly didn’t explain what this movie was about other than he’s an evil dictator who comes to America.
“humiliating Ryan Seacrest” does anyone really thing he humiliated Ryan Seacrest by spilling flour on him? This is the guy who produces the Kardashians for the love of gawd.
Why don’t I invite you to the oscars or some major event, have you dress up and then poor some substance all over you. See how you feel like then.
It’s called having a sense of humor. Life is short. I agree with Really. Even if Cohen wasn’t that funny, I hardly think Seacrest was humiliated. Cohen was just pointing out the obvious.
Humiliating is not the right word. Ryan did not take it angrily. But honestly, if someone goes to the place where you work and pours something on you — i just really wonder how much of a sense of humor you really would have.
I completely agree! Battleship looks like a disaster and no one wants to talk about it. After all the coverage of what a mess Disney made with John Carter, I am seriously wondering why everyone is so silent on Battleship? We read numerous reports of what went wrong with Carter, so where are the reports for Universal’s soon-to-be bomb?
People are too excited about Avengers to even care about disliking Battleship.
Rich Ross was awful and the whole town knew it. Hence, the serious Carter dumping on Disney. It was fodder to bring down Ross.
Adam Fogelson has made some bad choices, but seems to be on the cusp of righting the ship at Universal (maybe). And, Adam is a pleasant person.
Hollywood loves to torch those it does not like and respect. The product is just the flame to light the fire.
So true, everyone jumped on the “John Carter” Haterade train like circling vultures, but the tired looking, yet ridiculously expensive “Battleship” seems to be getting a pass? Peter Berg isn’t worthy of directing Andrew Stanton’s family vacation home videos. I think people are completely sick and tired of shelling out a lot of cash to see the same aliens invading earth with annoying CGI movie. Studios have been making this same movie since the invention of the camera, some are classics, but maybe it’s time we give this uninspired trope a breather, what do you say? Unless of course you are going to have Joss Whedon write it and direct it brilliantly and have all the iconic Marvel characters come together to fight off these alien invaders. Having ships with brilliant actress Rihana on deck is not enough to freshen up material that has been done endlessly in the last couple of years. This is basically just “Battle(ship) L.A.”, “War of the Worlds”, “Skyline”, “Darkest Hour”…I’m already bored just typing the titles!
Please do not throw a movie with balls and vision like War of the Worlds together with those forgettable B-level turds.
I really didn’t mean to imply “War of the World’s” was a turd, while flawed it certainly was the best among those films i listed. Just meant that this extravagant aliens invade earth thing has been done ad nauseum over the last few years.
@ Brian, You are telepathically linked to my mind. You’ve written exactly what I was thinking. I’m in agreement with your other posts as well. Have an enjoyable weekend.
Because Battleship already made back its production budget overseas.
Not unless it made a couple of hundred million more while we weren’t looking.
What about the marketing budget? Until we know the TOTAL COST, you can’t really say that it is profiting. John Carter had a total cost of $300M according to boxoffice.com and it made $280M WW.
Releasing the movie internationally a month early was a slap in the face to American audiences. Now the fanboys are slapping back. John Carter got word of mouth, Betrayalship gets nothing.
um youre dumb. avengers opened first overseas too.
Yeah lower case steve, but Avengers did it for the right reasons. Battleshit was just trying to hide.
Avengers opened internationally 1 weekend prior to opening domestically.
Battleship opened internationally 1 month prior to opening domestically.
Yea when the exec’s found out about the plans for BATTLESHIP’S overseas release they put a rush job on AVENGERS and premiered the same week as BATTLESHIP but in different countries because Universal had already booked BATTLESHIP. And AVENGERS earnings have added the foreign box office into its totals.
Get over yourself. If people in Japan want to see this horrible movie let them, I could care less.
Such a weird sentiment. Dude, it’s a movie.
No kidding! What’s more American than making money? If opening in Europe to catch some April holidays is the best way to make money then why not!?
Opening overseas was good for Avengers because it was well reviewed and helped to build anticipation. It won’t help Battleship because it wasn’t well reviewed and helped dispel some anticipation (not that there was much to begin with).
many films open overseas ahead of time now. It’s commonplace for many big films. I don’t like how you try and equate a film opening overseas, with a lack of patriotism — it sends the wrong message, and it’s thinking like this that makes the world a less friendly, more polarizing, and solitary place.
I’ve just been reading reviews for What To Expect When You’re Expecting. Oh my god, this sounds like a bowl of afterbirth! When will they learn that the Love Actually formula has run out of steam?????
It isn’t about the formula. Its about the quality of the Movie. If it were a good film, people would go see it. It doesn’t matter if it is a remake of a classic, a remake of a foreign film, or a film that rips off a formula of another film.
It just has to be good. That’s it. If it looks good in the trailers, and the buzz is decent, a lot of people will go see it. If it looks bad, they won’t. If a film were totally original, and bad, not many people would go see it.
As for Battleship, it seems like it will eke out profitability in the long run. JC BOMBED overseas, whereas Battles ship has done OK. So it won’t be a mega write off that will shake Wall St, unlike JC (which, again, was a decent film).
Again, not true. JC made 200mil internationally, Battleshit is at 215mil and is at the end of its international run.
Those two movies are doing THE SAME financially, on THE SAME budget.
(Sure, one is doing a little better, but “a little” is all). Why then one is a megaflop and the other one gets reports of great success internationally? Even Deadline covered Battleshit’s supposed smashing international success.
>It isn’t about the formula. Its about the quality of the Movie. If it were a good film, people would go see it.
These are strange days we live in, and the internet can sometimes manipulate things in very powerful ways. For instance, the movie “Devil Inside” opened HUGE and it was a very well-made, low-budget movie. A very good film. But it got the worst word-of-mouth, the worst internet attacks, I’ve ever seen. And it disappeared almost instantly. Quality certainly counts for something. But there SEEM to be ways to use the internet to manipulate almost anything.
It had no ending. I repeat, it had no ending.
The ending of a movie is what seals the deal. A good movie with a shit ending will get horrible word of mouth. A decent horror film that ends by sending you to a website, rightfully deserved horrible word of mouth.
Don’t blame the internet for the steep decline of a movie where the writers simply gave up at the end.
>It had no ending
You underscore my point. 1) The ending was almost exactly the same as the Blair Witch ending, and no one threw away that movie; 2) The ending was organic to the story, not a contrived Hollywood construct. Yet still the internet throws away the movie. Did you like “Battleship” because it had an ending?
Mark. Don’t attempt to be a snob while defending a piece of crap movie. The Blair Witch Project (a movie which I very much disliked) was the first Found Footage horror film to con people out of their money with it’s “this really happened” premise. And it largely worked due to the fact that not everyone was plugged into the Internet when it was released.
The Devil Inside didn’t have a similar ending. It had an ending that directed everyone to go to a website.
That’s bull.
Either way, Found Footage movies are not my cup of tea. And both films weren’t at all scary. A shitty movie with an ending is still a shitty movie. A decent movie with no ending is a waste of time.
I don’t go out spending my hard earned money on every film that is released. So no, I did not go see that board game adaptation this weekend.
The last film I did pay money for, The Avengers, did have an ending though. And it even had an epilogue.
And people didn’t walk out of the theater cursing and sucking their teeth.
B-…
“…it largely worked due to the fact that not everyone was plugged into the Internet when it was released.”
Huh? The website teasing that BLAIR WITCH was based on fact was a HUGE part of the movie’s success. It’s often credited as one of the first films to demonstrate the power of Internet marketing.
Dictator should have been $30 negative pick up out of Cannes, not an $80 studio film. Also, if they knew audiences didn’t like the film, why did they open on Wednesday?
I think we can all agree that Taylor Kitsch is done. Maybe now he can get back to doing “gritty” stuff…
Agreed.
Rom coms aren’t having a tough time if the movies are FUNNY. Think Like a Man will likely hit $90 million on a $12 million budget. Why? Because it’s funny. Audiences are hungry for good action movies and funny comedies. They realize if the studios and their marketing and publicity departments are trying to disguise crap as good films. The problem is if the movie is mediocre or just plain bad, people usually figure it out and don’t go…
When films like The Avengers comes along, it’s good for the film and for the studio, but it’s really bad for the box-office as a whole. It pretty much just destroys everyone else’s chances of making any money. Be interesting to see how The Dictator and Battleship would have performed if The Avengers wasn’t out.
I disagree. From the perspective of competing for screens, Avengers has a big advantage. But, Even when there are massive event movies like this there are still opportunities for other movies. Sherlock Holmes made a shocking $524 million worldwide and did it in the shadow of Avatar!
Films earn what they earn by their own merit. There are environmental factors that impact B.O. numbers but appealing movies are never ignored. Dictator and Battleship deserve what they get, just like every other film.
Anti-geek means flyover country? Uh. Nikki? I love you, but I think they meant something else by that. Some people in this country ride bikes or go hiking on weekends, they go to clubs and bars after work, or they go on dates and attend social events; we aren’t all in flyover country. I live in LA, and I don’t spend my free time arguing online about how someone misinterpreted Stan Lee’s vision for a comic book character. So maybe I’ll go see Battleship instead of Avengers, and Universal will only sell one ticket per capita instead of four. Yeah, smart money is on the comic book films for sure. But thank you Universal for trying to make a blockbuster based on a board game instead of a comic book. It’s nice to have some variety at the multiplex.
I hate the ad campaign of the “dudes group” — it seriously makes me cringe — why can’t they just go with their target audience and advertise the actual movie. This is a huge book for those having a baby. Problem is == will those with a family who used this book actually be able to go see it.
The first poster got it right with reason c). Overpublicizing a movie is just as damaging as underpublicizing it. I saw Baron Cohen in so many places doing that character that I already feel like I’ve seen the movie. His schtick got tired after awhile and, quite frankly, his accent wasn’t very good.
Does this mean RIP to Taylor Kitsch career? Maybe Berg will stop trying to force him down America’s throat. He lacks charisma and appeal.
We can only HOPE! Maybe casting will finally get the message?
We can bloody hope so tara, but the fact remains is that he will probably headline another big movie,and another, and another, and do you know why?
Hint: It’s got something to do with the fact that he needs lots of UVF lotion to enjoy a stroll on the beach.
It is not casting who makes the final decision.
EW just put Battleship at #1 on their must do list and gave the movie a B+.
EW is a steaming pile of crapola.
Folks need to go see the inspirational Crooked Arrows…currently tracking 80% fresh on Rotten Tomatoes. It is in its selected city release this weekend and goes national on June 1st. Released completely independent of the studio system.
Starring the plank of wood Routh, with box office poison powers that make Taylor Kitsch look like Mr. Popularity. No thanks.
The positive reviews it is getting are disagreeing with you. But that is ok. May not be your cup of tea…but families and teens are lighting up twitter about it. I tend to like films that make me feel positive when the credits roll. Instead of the ones that leave me with headaches with all the CGI and explosions.
I’m on twitter. Nobody cares about this movie. Why do you lie about something so easy to check? Even as a social marketing push that is stupid and weak. Never lie about something so easy to check. Plenty of peeps here have access to Social Marketing metrics as part of their jobs.
To say no one cares for this movie is not really accurate. For an indie…83% from top critics on RT, sold out theaters in the various selected cities, a simple search of crooked arrows on twitter shows folks are loving the film. A film marketed to the fastest growing sport in America where that sport and their families are huge rabid supporters? I don’t know dude. It is no studio tent pole that is for sure. The big criticism is that is it predictable and formulaic. And yet it still works by critic accounts. So to say “no one” cares seems to be a rather biased curmudgeon statement on your part as well. Obviously this film could not have been made in the studio system today because it is a risk they would not want to take. But for an indie doing a national expanded release on June 1st, it will be interesting to see how that works for them.
Why do you continue to lie about things that are easy to check? Rotten Tomatoes has 6 reviews. SIX. Yet you go on about this direct-to-DVD movie’s critical acclaim. From 5 tepid, sort of positive reviews. Please stop embarrassing yourself. Never lie about things that are easy to check.
400+ screens nationwide and Canada on June 1st. Theatrical in Europe in late June. “Direct-to DVD”? Huh? Will be more than Exotic Marigold is playing in right now. Starting to question really who is lying here. LAX bros unite!
It is obvious that this is the producer posting and sweating the loss of his investment. Why he thought putting it on Deadline’s radar was a good idea, we’ll never know. The people here are going to rip this movie a new a**hole when it bombs. And he’ll deserve it. Who would look at Dylan Dog’s performance and say, “I need to copy that!”
Really? HAHA LOL! No…for me, just a LAX bro who loves seeing my sport get the good Hollywood treatment it deserves. But, good to see that skeptical cynicism is alive and well in Hollywood.
Why are people wasting the frontpage talking about this terrible looking thing, instead of discussing The Dictator or The Avengers?
Releasing the movie internationally a month early was a slap in the face to American audiences……..what does that mean? we have to put up with the same thing in good old England…..
While the above poster you quoted is being overly dramatic, a majority of movies are made in Hollywood and America and I’m assuming the reason the commenter felt Battleship should be released in America first. It’s hard for some people to realize the U.S. is not the center of the world.
Well I recall well some posters here saying that the domestic BO is the most important thing. I don’t agree with that. If a movie makes money it makes money. Doesn’t matter if the majority of it comes from the Foreign markets. America is not the world. And it is a shame that the internet and sites are now it seems on some mission to destroy a film before it gets its legs. That is what I see. It is one thing to say you don’t like a film, but to go on site after site posting negative comments and trashing it. Well some people have an agenda.
American audiences get influenced too much about things that don’t matter. If they don’t like who the actor is dating they trash a movie. If they don’t like what the actor does in his/her personal life they trash a movie. It just seems that Foreign movie goers are more a bit more loyal to the actor/STARS.
JMO
Foreign markets care about the films for the most part, not so much the stars/marketing (unless it’s Tom Cruise/Johnny Depp/Brad Pitt). A lot of people set out to hate John Carter/Battleship simply because Taylor Kitsch can’t act very well. Kind of dumb. Dislike those films because the budgets were obscene, but because of the star?
Agree one hundred percent.