Ari Emanuel this week started a battle — or, to put it more politely, a debate — with Google over the piracy issue. The WME chief complained about Google at the AllThingsD conference on Wednesday, then Google bitchslapped him back saying he was “misinformed”, and now Emanuel has just given Deadline this letter (see below). In summary, the agent tells us, “I don’t give a shit anymore about SOPA. i just want the conversation to be happening.” That it is:
I am misinformed about a lot – just ask my wife – but I’m not misinformed about this: one of our last remaining dominant American exports is our creativity, no matter how you define it, either as a story or as an algorithm. There is equal genius behind companies like Apple, Facebook, Amazon and Google as there is behind artists who create stories that resonate around the world. We need to protect America’s intellectual property and Hollywood can’t do it on its own. I understand that the onus is not entirely Google’s, but let’s stop talking at each other and get in a room with all parties to figure this out. To be clear, I don’t want to rehash SOPA as we can all agree that was a reflection of Southern California’s arrogance, and let’s also not pretend that we’re working together on this issue because we have Youtube channels together. This is a larger conversation. It’s time for Hollywood, our government and Silicon Valley to step up and collectively resolve this problem. Let me know where and when and I’ll be there.
Ari
(Photo – Asa Mathat / AllThings Digital)


Why would Google want to meet with the guys who keep making them free money? There’s no penalty for stealing on the Internet so it will keep going on. If people started going to JAIL for stealing just like you do in a retail environment, then suddenly public perception would change.
PS – If your excuse is “it should be simpler”, then F.O. As a 5+ year former Apple retail employee, I can say that no matter how simple you make it, people will not read the screen in front of them. People who don’t learn our simple devices nowadays make NO attempt at learning.
Ari, you need to go crack down on the Chinese. I’ve already solved Hollywood’s problem the same way I solved the RIAA’s – I quit watching your crappy content altogether.
So Ari is backing up his clients’ work and not straight up battling an internet giant? Sounds like this guy knows what he is doing. Is he a big figure in his field or something? Someone should create a show that has a character somewhat based on him……
Or maybe people should just get really mad and post long essays on this topic.
i just want to eat for free at the restaurants where all the pirates are waiters or cooks, i want to get clothes for free at the shops they own or they work at, i want free computers and printers and hard drives if they work at computer companies, i want free classes if they are university teachers, i want a free car if they are car salesmen, since they believe they can watch the movies i make for free… have your business go down 20-50% (90% in the case of spanish piracy), have people get whatever product you create/sell/company you work at for free, get fired or lose your jobs because people don’t pay for what you create or what you work for. piracy is theft.
“There is equal genius behind companies like Apple, Facebook, Amazon and Google as there is behind artists who create stories that resonate around the world.”
Ari’s wrong about that. Still, I think that he makes some good points overall. Youtube needs to do a better job of promptly responding to copyright claims. As for piracy, I have read studies that point out that it it’s a net positive and other studies that point out that it’s a net negative.
Let me make sure I got this straight.
After years of suing and slandering and attacking sites like Google (Rupert Murdoch of all people singled them out for internet-misconduct of all things!) these guys who tried to end-run the Constitution to censor and ultimately destroy these websites now wants to talk all nice and friendly?
Could it have anything to do with their having lost those stupid legislative-censorship efforts?
And with the fact that Google, Amazon and now Facebook are publicly traded companies and have the muscle to fight back against the big boys now?
Or the fact that new media, which is dominated by these websites and not the studios websites are going to be the venues where people get their news and entertainment?
Excuse me while I gag!
1. Isn’t the operative question : when (and how) did it get so out of control? And where was Ari Emanuel during this time?
2. Will the movie business be decimated in the same way as the recording industry? (Already an answered question I guess.)
3. “Southern California’s arrogance?” I had no idea Emanuel has deigned to permit San Diego to join him in THE GOOD FIGHT OF HOLLYWOOD! Wait. He disses San Diego as arrogant. Never mind.
4. “Let me know where and when and I’ll be there.” How about 3:30 after school in the parking lot behind the gymnasium? Just as productive. He writes and talks in the same ways as “Battleship” is awful!
5. As an agent are you not accountable for signing off on unenforceable contracts regarding profit participants? Maybe addressing issues in studio “boilerplate” – collectively and in collaboration with the unions – could move the ball down the field to address an underlying fact (the Facebook I.P.O. is relevant to this) – (this is my opinion) – there are huge information multinationals that have become exactly that due to misappropriated content. Napster was not immune to such an argument.
6. Try not to kiss too many asses at Camp Allen – think tank? Or the Altamont of intellectual property.
Ari! You’re an AGENT! Just an AGENT! Please stick to agenting…
Google can’t stop pirating. No one can. I suggest you look up ‘TOR’ and ‘FREENET’ on Wiki. This allows encrypted end-to-end file and data sharing. TOR could (in theory) be monitored at the exit nodes but FREENET is impossible. If a movie, MP3, or whatever is moved through either of these, its contents are indecipherable by anyone but the sender and receiver. Anyone with a FREENET free-site (look it up) can publish anything without fear of *anyone* being able to determine the contents. No type of sizing fingerprint will work (due to hash salting) and the contents will appear random. FREENET is what is used in foreign countries (Iran, China, etc.) to allow secure communications. There is nothing “Silicon Valley” can do about this, due to the layers of encryption. All Ari can do is get the noobies from sharing copyrighted material via “regular” internet, i.e. sharing over open internet where servers or proxies can “view” the contents of traffic. The best that can be hoped for, in the long run, is to reduce pirating over the “regular” internet, which will certainly and eventually drive the more determined to use TOR or FREENET. There is already a “Pirate-Bay” on FREENET and there is *lots* of pirated content all over the place. TOR is slightly less secure wrt traceability, and is mostly intended to allow anonymous web surfing. It must ultimately enter the “regular” internet via a TOR exit node. FREENET, however, is absolutely secure if you use it correctly and is something of a “hidden internet running within the existing internet.” The “data storage” is distributed among all the FREENET users and even *they* cannot know what is stored in their (encrypted) data store if they are not actively retrieving that data. (I would hope that some of you on who cannot afford to be identified are using TOR when posting to this site.)
I find it so amusing that all the children come out to play whenever somebody gores their oxen. It is important that someday the children actually learn enough about stuff they are pontificating about that they don’t sound like idiots when they argue.
1) China does not have a copyright law and does not honor other country’s laws about copyrights. There is no such concept as “Intellectual Property” in China.
2) Russia does not have a copyright law and does not honor other country’s laws about copyrights. There is no such concept as “Intellectual Property” in Russia.
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