The future of Hollywood franchises is international and it is female, producers agreed this afternoon on the Studio Tentpoles panel at the PGA’s Produced By Conference. “I think Hollywood was too stupid to
figure that out for a while” said The Hunger Games producer Nina Jacobson, citing the recent success of the her own new franchise and The Twilight Saga as examples of female-driven blockbusters. “I think that there will be something really big that will reverse engineer itself for the American market,” said Transformers and Red producer Lorenzo Di Bonaventura, taking a different perspective and noting the
changing nature of the French film industry toward more populist fare. “It’s going to come at us and I think that will be a good thing.” Jacobson also lamented Hollywood’s pursuit of what she called the “fanboy” audience. “Can you think, between movies, TV, video games and porn, any
audience that has a shorter attention span?” she asked. She pointed out that women are the primary economic decision-makers in most households. Di Bonaventura and Jacobson were joined on the panel by The Hangover movies’ director Todd Phillips and “Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants” producer Debra Martin Chase. Former Warner Bros executive Kevin McCormick, producer of the upcoming Gangster Squad, moderated the panel. Philips declined to say anything about the plot of The Hangover 3 except that it is “not going to be another forgotten night.”
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Both Jacobson and Di Bonaventura talked about the risk of losing your audience when you start to change a successful blockbuster. “When you mess with the alchemy, you mess with what the audience likes,” said the Transformers producer, noting the “soul searching” he and others on the robot blockbuster had to do following the departure of Megan Fox. Addressing the departure of director Gary Ross from The Hunger Games sequel, Jacobson, who previously had praised Ross’ capturing of the right tone as helping to make the film such a hit, admitted “it’s scary to change.” She added “when Gary left I thought ‘this is what a producer does’ – you have to adapt and figure out how to turn risk into opportunity.”
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While opinions varied about the future of franchises, there was no dissent among the producers on Hollywood’s voracious appetite for franchises nor what makes one, be it based on a best seller like the Harry Potter or The Hunger Games books, a comic like Marvel’s The Avengers or completely original – it’s all character and tone. “Fundamentally this is what the Avengers have done well,” said Jacobson, a former head of production at of Disney. “They have put a
tremendous amount of time into developing the characters.” While expressing concern about the “first or die” opening weekend mentality in the industry, Di Bonaventura said the best strategy is to create a successful movie first and a franchise second. “I can’t think of anything I went into thinking it was a franchise. The Matrix wasn’t that, Harry Potter wasn’t that, I just wanted to make one good film,” the former Warner Bros. president of worldwide production told the audience. “I think the second movie, if you get one, is where you build the franchise.” Chase noted that all potential franchises should look to the example of “the ultimate franchise” of James Bond, the most successful of them all. “It is a case study of how to build a franchise and maintain it over years,” she said. At the same time all agreed that blockbusters based on bestsellers carry their own set of risks because fans can have such a strict sense of what the movie should be and who the characters are. No one mentioned the box office failure of Disney’s John Carter, and Universal’s Battleship was mentioned only in passing, but they were certainly the pink elephants in the room today. “The idea that you are designing a franchise from the first one has led to some of the worst films we’ve all seen,” cautioned Jacobson. “I think audiences reject being told something is a franchise or a hit.”
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They should have asked an ACTUAL Transformers producer that’s allowed to have daily interactions with Michael Bay just how much “soul searching” was involved when Megan Fox left the robot franchise…
PRODUCER:
Megan Fox is OUT!
Bay:
Get me a girl that can audition while
washing TWO CARS AT ONCE this time!
As a crew member on all three Transformers movies. Megan was just a spoiled, selfish, show up late actress. She had a problem even saying hello or thank you to people that helped her everyday, in make up, costumes. I even saw her turn down meeting one of the grips daughters on the set. She got everything she deserved – Karma
I’ve been pitching female lead projects and franchises for the last year and a half and a handful of producers and agents I’ve spoken to have said “It’d be easier on tv, film just isn’t the place for female lead action franchises, this would be too hard to sell.” I think I’ll send those people this link…
And they’ll promptly ignore it.
Deborah Martin Chase is such a class act.
There’s a reason why romcoms seem to always make money, no matter how awful they are. Women make decisions, they make buying decisions, and there is so little for a mom and her two daughters to see, that the three women in my family recently went to see “Something Borrowed,” even though they knew it was terrible. There is just not a lot out there for women, and whether it’s a bad ass female warrior or a woman who’s unlucky in love, stories involving woman as a lead will do well these days.
Two observations regarding Nina Jacobson’s comments:
“It’s scary to change” referencing the departure of Gary Ross from Hunger Games sequel. Sadly, I think this applies far more broadly to producers and what they must do to make a sale. As such, change in filmmaking is not only ‘scary’…it is rare. It is so much easier to take the safest way in the current studio system.
The comment continuation:
“…when Gary left, I thought ‘this is what a producer does’ – you have to adapt and figure out how to turn risk into opportunity”.
Am I missing something or wouldn’t the sequel with or without Mr. Ross (who delivered) still be one of the current best opportunities already in place? It’s like coming to bat in the bottom of the ninth inning with no outs and the based loaded and one run will win the game. Sure, the side might be retired, but I would not call it turning risk into opportunity. I kinda hope this kind of opportunity is clearly there for all to see…and, not ‘what a producer does’.
Just saying…
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No idea what you’re saying. Try to be clearer and more succinct. Just saying…
Okay…let me try again.
Nina Jacobson comments are self serving to herself and producers. How can anyone state that the loss of a director for a hugely successful ‘soon to be’ franchise translates into a scenario where the producer must take this risk and turn it into an opportunity. It is already a huge opportunity (400 MILLION domestically this week), and changing directors should not be so scary. It happens all the time. Star Wars, Alien/Aliens/ Pirates (IV), Terminator, etc. have continued with a change in directors.
So, reading Nina’s comments seem to be a bit absurd especially as it relates to the risk/opportunity reward for Hunger Games 2.
Finally, the reason Nina chose the word ‘scary’ is that status quo is the studio/producer mantra. Fear of failure should not drive decision making…rather the drive to be creative and successful storytellers should be the motivation.
“Actions will speak for themselves. When the motivation for these actions come into question…problems will arise”.
Because obviously you have experience with such decisions, sitting on your couch.
Far more than you.
And, I am getting really tired of bloggers who attack the messenger…not the message.
Make a serious comment or F-off.
I find it odd that anyone in Hollywood would lament the “fanboy audience” or their attention spans. For the most part,fanboys have been patiently waiting for Hollywood to stop with the CGI and the endless reboots and start giving us movies that feature the characters and stories that we have loved for years. Our attention span is just fine…Hollywood is the one that thinks we need to be re-introduced to the origins of Superman or Spiderman every 3 years.
John Carter on Mars could have been a successful franchise. It was successful as a series of books published long ago and they books continued for decades. There was even a comic book Warlords of Mars. The reason it failed is because they let Andrew Stanton spend way too much and they didn’t know how to market it. They also had a lousy release date. They should have pushed it back to open against something like That’s My Boy June 15th. If they had done that they would have had a much more profitable movie. Serves them right for being so arrogant and so resistant to good sense.
Went to PGA Prometheus screening at Fox tonight. Noomi Rapace did an extraordinary job of carrying a big Scifi action adventure movie that absolutely worked cross-gender (even if imperfect in other ways).