
EXCLUSIVE: Studios are relying heavily on sequels this summer, but the toughest thing to do is to introduce something new that launches a franchise. It looks like Universal has done that with Snow White And The Huntsman. I’m told that the studio is making all the moves that indicate another chapter is in the offing, and on a fast track.
Universal commenced David Koepp to write the sequel script, which Deadline revealed in late April might happen. The studio is now talking with director Rupert Sanders about a return, after he made his feature directing debut on the first installment. Sanders is interested; he had a great time making the first movie. But unlike most first time directors, he doesn’t have to come back. That’s because Snow White And The Huntsman was sold in an auction by CAA that included a presentation by Sanders of how he was going to shoot the film. Sanders was part of the package, as was producer Joe Roth, and that gave the agency leverage to make a much better deal than a first timer usually gets. The filmmaker is in demand now, but he hasn’t chosen his next film and a sequel might well be it. I understand that the actors in the film have options for two sequels, so that part of the equation shouldn’t be too difficult.
While there were plenty of potshots taken by journalists at Universal and its executives in expectation that Snow White and the Huntsman would suffer the same under-performing fate as Battleship, the film way outperformed its advance tracking for a $56 million opening weekend. It has continued to play during the week and has done $118 million worldwide. It still needs to perform in the next few grueling weeks, considering the film’s costs pegged at a reported $170 million, but there is an opportunity here to make a better film with the sequel. The first film got rushed when Relativity Media hired Julia Roberts and pressed ahead with Mirror Mirror. Relativity burned its bridges with Universal to rush out a film that wasn’t worth it, and Universal also hurried its film. Paying Koepp his fat fee (his franchise scripts include Spider-Man, Jurassic Park and Mission: Impossible) indicates the studio will try to make the most of that opportunity, particularly with no reason to rush this time.


I don’t have time to post, because I’m currently scurrying to finish writing the sequel to “Howard the Duck”.
Howard the Duck bombing references are so cliche. This could be a great trilogy.
What am I missing here? The first is doing ok, but they should listen to audiences. It sucked.
Actually a majority of the audience loved it hence why they’re probably doing another sequel. You can’t just read the negative reviews and dismiss the positive ones
Just curious if you saw the film? I did, and it was beautiful, but soulless and predictable. Makes one realize WILLOW was underrated.
However, I can’t argue with the modest (but real) success box office, so a sequel makes sense. Hopefully they will take their time with the script and improve on the first.
I also totally got a Willow vibe from it! If only Snow White had been as good as that…
I got more of a ‘Legend’ vibe from the film; the lush fairy realm, the darkness of the forest.
Let’s look at the parallels:
Huntsman = Jack the Forest Child
Dwarves = Dwarves
Snow White = Lilly
The Evil Queen = Darkness
The Queen’s Brother tracking S.W. = Blix tracking Lilly
I agree, it did have a Willow and Legend vibe, the only difference is that those stories were INTERESTING. Charlize Theron was the ONLY good thing about this movie. It just kept dragging on and on. Plus, with it being Snow White, you expect SOME romance. I mean come on! The only kiss was the one that raised her from the dead and she wasn’t even a part of that.
I mean sure, it did well at the box office, BUT that was because of the K-Stew factor. All the Twi-hards rushed out to see Bella. I went to see it because of Thor, I find Chris Hemsworth to be quite hot. But even he couldn’t make this movie memorable. On a scale of 1-10, I give this movie a 4 – great visuals, great villain, horrible plot line, terrible heroine. She was supposed to be empowering to women, right? So why did I feel so bleh about her character when I left?
Come on Hollywood, use your big brain to think and not your wallet. Make a REAL Snow White movie so we can all find our happily ever after.
hope they make the sequel feel abit more like “pans labyrinth” mixed with some Christopher Nolan style of psychological story and gritty scenes… cant wait!
The movie received a “B” Cinemascore. That is not a majority of the audience loving the movie, sadly.
it got a b from cinemascore, so it was so-so.
B is above average it’s a C grade that is so-so. Not every film is going to do over 500m domestic. But of course they could spend that next 170M on a whole bunch of Indie films that no one will want to see.
You obviously don’t know much about cinemascore, a B is not very good, C is terrible, D/F is very rare. Don’t think of it like high school grades, it’s on a different scale. I would say B/B+ is average, so getting a B certainly doesn’t mean a movie is beloved and deserving of a sequel, not that cinemascores really mean diddly when an exec is deciding whether or not green light a sequel. If it makes decent money it will get a sequel, if it barely breaks even or loses it won’t, in the vast majority of cases for high budget fare.
I’m not saying a sequel is a good idea (it might in fact do terribly) but quality of one film does not necessarily mean people won’t go see the next film in the series. Transformers is a perfect example. The second one was terrible (on pretty much every level) and most people agree with that statement. However people still turned out in droves to see the third (in fact the third did better than the second!)
Great visuals. Abysmal story. Waste of Charlize. Why keep the most dynamic actress stuck in one room yelling at the walls? In one scene she vapor-crow-izes out of the castle to take on Snow – why didn’t she do that to begin with? What was up with the dang milk bath? And just a big ol why her when it comes to the 8th dwarf, Mopey Stewart. Suffice to say this time after saying “wow this vfx shot is going to look so cool” perhaps the director and writer will move on to the next thought of “how can we make the story better/match this shot”.
Mopey Stewart, that’s funny…
I have to say, I don’t get all the stuff about how Kristen Stewart’s performance was mopey. Yes, there are other things people could criticize but mopey? Snow White was supposed to have been locked in a tower and then was stuck with a drunk guide. She obviously wasn’t supposed to be all la da da butterflies and rainbows. She seemed perfectly happy and joyful when it came to the CGI butterflies and forest creatures. The main problem was the shitty, horrific script that gave none of the characters any dimensions except perhaps the Evil Queen.
Charlize didn’t go attack Snow White in the first place because she couldn’t – she clearly stated in the movie that her powers didn’t work in the dark forest. When she attacked Snow White, she was already past and out of the dark forest, so Charlize’s powers still applied. She finally just went in herself because she was getting older and older, waiting for Snow White to be captured.
As for the bath, I think that was to really illustrate just how obsessed Charlize was with beauty and youthfulness. The bath scene was dramatic because it was meant to be dramatic. Yes, some can argue that it wasn’t necessary or needed, but it was visually beautiful and made sense.
…Kristen Stewart? To be honest, I didn’t really understand that one either, seeing as Snow White is supposed to be portrayed as happy and full of life, while Stewart tends to only work one facial expression (i.e. Twilight). But, I was surprised by how much I liked her as the character. Still not the perfect fit, but decent nonetheless.
Hopefully the sequel (if they so choose to make one) will show growth in Stewart’s acting, though I’m so sad to imagine a sequel without Charlize.
Why is deadline being so kind to this film?
It stil underperformed. A film with a budget of $170m needs at least an 80m opening. Yes, it did better than they thought- but they lowered expectations to begin with.
You guys trash MIB3 (I don’t care for either film) but it will outgross Snow White with the universal appeal for Big Willie.
We are still in a slump. Had Snow White been made for half that (which it should have), then this would be a success story.
Hopefully they can do some kiddie merchandising to bring in additional revenue.
SWATH didn’t open in as many theaters nor did it have the advantage of 3D sales.
It’s international debut was also bigger than “The Hunger Games”. So, I suspect that’s what the all the fuss is about.
Um, no genius. MIB3 WILL NOT outgross Snow White….and cost 250 million….its a DISASTER. I suspect you work at Sony and are just trying to take a potshot at Uni….Uni launched a new franchise…SONY is going to have an AWFUL Summer (Spiderman reboot? Please) Deal with it, moron.
Globally, MIB3 will outgross SWATH by at least $100m but PROMETHEUS will show them who is the BOSS. Just check all the numbers on Monday.
Explain to me how Snow White and the Huntsman is a success? It has to do at least 400 to even think about profitability and it won’t. Universal isn’t having the best luck this summer.
Deal with what, exactly? Considering I said I don’t care for either film means I work at Sony? And yes, Universal on fire with both Battleship and Snow White. My bad.
I’m just saying it seems certain films are torn apart more than others.
MIB will do 500-550 whether you like it or not.
Snow White will do 400 if it’s lucky.
So deal with it dumbass.
You need to get the numbers right. MIB’s budget is only 225 million, not 250 million that you quoted. And it has made over 427 million worldwide in just 2 weeks whereas SWATH only made 118 million worldwide in one week. I don’t see SWATH making another 309 million worldwide this week which is the difference to catch up to MIB’s second week box office. So why are people acting like SWATH is doing better than MIB when the numbers indicate the opposite?
Wow, I’m sure with David Koepp behind the typewriter they won’t get a completely dated, by-the-numbers story.
Wow. Studio Execs must be really stupid these days. So what if it made more than expected opening weekend? Shouldn’t they be deciding this after what the second weekend looks like? Word of mouth is not good. Only a ‘B’ cinemascore. Plus Prometheus will dominate this weekend. I came out of Snow White & the Huntsman with a “MEH.” First this on my mind wasn’t, “I can’t wait for the sequel!”
I agree, its was meh , an epic fail , give it a C for effort, kristen was boring , charlize carried the movie, the story was dragging.
Dumb decisions like this are the main reason the industry is in so much trouble. Myself I’m giving the industry maybe another ten years to run itself into the ground before the major internet shakeup comes ( likely as not run offered by apple ) The next decade is going to be fun to watch for everyone except anyone connected to the current business model
If they decide on a sequel, can the bad writing and shaky camera movement be gotten rid off. Also cast a new Snow White. The franchise could be big- it simply needs retuning.
Yes, that makes sense, get rid of the girl that got butts in seats in the first place, and let the Charlize fans carry the day – afterall, they’ve always been there for her before over the last 15 years whenever she’s opened the big blockbusters that she’s headlined…..oh, wait. Nevermind.
I’m very proud of my old studio. Here’s what I want to see. These are the sequels we will make. A new sequel released every summer.
Snow White and the Moon Men
The Huntsman Goes to Mars
The Evil Queen Meets The Mummy
Faster and Furiouser: Snow White
The Huntsman Meets Frankenstein
Snow White vs. Atomic Dracula
Cowboys & Aliens & Snow White
Battleship 2: Mirror Mirror
Now let’s get to work on these they’re all great I can’t wait!
SNOW WHITE vs. ATOMIC DRACULA actually sounds pretty awesome. I’ll buy a ticket.
Funny how people trashing it refer to Rotten Tomatoes critics score (46%) but not the audience score (74%). Anything to bolster their bias of a Bella Sw-oops, I mean Kristen Stewart-led film right? Anyway Movie Review Intelligence is a much better database, with 65% approval. Flawed film but still better than most summer films out of Hollywood these days. Preferred Kristen’s performance over Charlize’s, more nuanced. She did exactly what this Snow White was envisioned to be, just the right amount of innocence, vulnerability, kindness and toughness when she needed to be. I laughed when the Queen died. For a first-time director, however I was impressed overall.
Totally agree. Who cares about the critics? The vast majority of those who saw it liked it. Plus, there is so much potential for an even bigger and better sequel, and I for one am really excited for it. And to everyone who criticizes Kristen Stewart’s acting: have you never heard of subtlety?
In general, people ignore user data because it’s self-selecting and, consequentially, so biased as be utterly useless. Voluntary response data are worthless.
Another interesting item on Rottentomatoes is the “top critics” actually were 62% positive in reviewing the film. This seems to indicate that the more influential critics generally enjoyed the movie. This fact shouldn’t be overlooked.
62% is better than the overall average but a ringing critics endorsement ranges between the high 80s and ends with 100%. 62% is not enjoyment. It’s a polite “meh”.
The audience score is rigged by Kristen fans giving it a high score before they even saw the movie.
Comparing this film (2D, first time director, grim, no big name player like Johnny Depp) to Alice in Wonderland (3D, uplifting, Johnny Depp, Tim Burton) was just dumb. You know what’s that they were going for when they greenlighted the big ass budget. Why wasn’t the budget set at something like $100-$120 mil? A $56 mil opening would have been good, even excellent, with a lower budget. Look at Thor and Captain America…both films made around $65 mil opening weekend, and I believe Thor had the benefit of 3D. However, both Thor and Captain America had the benefit of being a good thirty, forty million dollars cheaper and Thor had legs. I also don’t understand why they had to film the entire movie in England…it would have been way cheaper to film in Vancouver.
England has all those cool, medieval looking sites. Maybe it could have been produced more cheaply but the location choice was worth spending big on
I agree with Kay, people just like to bash and bash on Kristen for some unknown reason, yes she did a shitty Bella, but get over it! Stop judging her as “mopey” and all the same crap everytime she does a new movie. I liked the movie, sad that Charlize as someone said was “trapped” inside the castle yelling, a sequel could explain better a lot of things left open and explore the characters better. I’m all for it.
The movie was AWFUL. But whatever gets Universal to make money, right?
Yea, right. Universal gets to make another film that most LOVED.
Just deal with it and stop whining.
This is Universal they are desperate for a franchise any franchise they will remake and reboot and sequelize or prequelize anything and everything. They should combine this with Bridesmaids then they can get Kristen Wiig plus Kristen Stewart and do Snow White and the Bridesmaids. With Megan McCarthy as the evil queen think how much money it’ll make it has big thrills and bigger laughs. Plus two handsome guys you get Chris Hemsworth and Jon Hamm. I’m always thinking that’s why I’m so successful. I’m the King of Broadway.
This is amazing to me. I thought only bonafide hits (not hits that skid by on a very low margin) get sequels? I don’t work in Hollywood, but from what I’ve read on various movie sites this movie did at most so-so. So why are they jumping on a sequel, especially since they haven’t seen the following weekend’s numbers? Is Hollywood that desperate (note: just saw they are making a World Records Book movie; of course they are)?
After the disaster of Battleship (a movie that was supposed to start a franchise similar to Transformers) and the absolute failure of Universal’s deal with Hasbro, the studio is desperate to find a possible franchise. So, when an original(non-sequel) big budget movie like SWATH ends up making over $100m worldwide in its first week of release it’s kind of a no brainer for Universal to green light a sequel. Even if the movie only breaks even or has a fairly small loss the studio can consider it a loss leader for the sequel(s).
As pointed out above, you have to consider it in context with other films. Thor did make $65 million at the domestic box office on it’s opening weekend with the benefit of the marvel following, 3D, etc. X Men First Class opened at $55 million domestically with the benefit of the comic book following and the previous X Men films. It also ended up grossing under $400 million world wide. This film made $56 million and was female driven (it sucks, but female driven films rarely top the box office), had no 3D, was a very odd take on the Snow White tale, etc. With all that in mind, $56 million is a damn good domestic opening. The problem is, this film should never have had a budget that was $170 million. Because of the budget, they will barely break even. I could see Universal thinking that a far cheaper sequel would make money, as sequels generally gross more than their predecessor. I still don’t understand why this film had such a large budget in the first place.
So the new bar for success is a movie that barely breaks even. If you can do that you go for the sequel and hope to make slightly more or lose slightly less. Well that makes sense. Comcast should be delighted. This is why they bought NBC Universal so they could make a very small profit or limit their losses to the bare minimum.
Hunger Games is a female driven movie in 2D and the first of a series yet managed almost $650 million worldwide. The legend of Snow White has been around a lot longer than those books. Hunger Games cost a third of Snow White and the Huntsman when you add p and a. Quit making excuses for poor performers. Studio execs at Universal are idiots if they think this movie is ever going to be a real hit. A better investment would be Bridesmaid sequel.
No. But as the Fast & Furious franchise showed them, a little patience can pay off. FF3 was a disaster. FF4 brought big money. And FF5 was a huge, huge success. And now that they can actually take the time and work on the movie, not rush it like the first one, it can be better and build them another franchise. Considering how much money they lost on their previous movies, the possible success definitely outweighs the risk and money they could lose on SWATH sequel.
The Queen didn’t “vapo-crow-ize” from the start because she said herself in the beginning that she had no power in the Dark Forest where Snow White had first escaped to. Thus the whole point of getting the Huntsman to track her down.
I enjoyed it – visuals, story, acting and all. I’d look forward to any sequel.
Just what you’d expect from this industry. The first movie had a slick and impressive marketing campaign that got a solid OW. But the mixed audience reaction, soft cinemascore and the fact that the property has limited potential to expand all points to a sequel nobody will want. Ask Wrath of the Titans, Mummy 3, Charlie’s Angels 2, Fantastic Four 2, Tomb Raider 2, etc. for more. The writing’s on the wall for audiences who get burned the first time.
England has more going for it than Vancouver. Sorry. The fact you even mentioned that shows how little you know about what you’re saying.
Know what you are talking about before you post. For Cinemascore a B is so-so, a C is bad
The film could have done with 30min less. The Evil Queen could have been an amazing character, but they left her there screaming so much I was getting annoyed. It was quite a flat performance at times, I thought. Kristen Stewart did well, people need to stop judging based on Twilight, she has some pretty good performances in other stuff. The costume design was beautiful and I’d happily watch a sequel, even if I didn’t love the first one.
I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed it. So did my husband. Charlize Theron is just the BOMB. That girl is only getting better with age. Hemsworth is just a hunk of Grade A beefcake. And I even liked Kristen Stewart.
So there. I’d buy a ticket to a sequel.
Charlize Theron’s Independent films make 4-5 times what Kristen Stewart’s make. Her evil queen character was the focus of the ads for Snow White and the Huntsman. She is a dependable actress that elevates movie she is in. Chris Hemsworth has been in two major blockbusters two years in a row. He helped bring the 47% male audience. Stewart has her Twilight blockbuster. All three of these actors were needed to make the OW a success. It was not only Stewart who brought butts to seats. If that were true her Indie movies would make more money.
I find this entire conversation juvenile and writhed with bad facts. Firstly any idiot comparing an IMAX 3D premium ticketed film to a 2D priced ticketed film is to be ignored as a fool. Any dunce who said the Snow White story is prepedictable is no rocket scientist either. But do you really think Prometheus isn’t. Let’s see: monster busting out of a stomach, strangling people with its tail…. uh did we not see that before? Not to mention the sound effects, the ships, the planets… ugh need I go on on the friggin predictability if Prometheus oh and let’s not forget the big bad corporation like really DUH!!! HOW MANY WAYS TO MAKE AN ALIEN FILM?! Ridley Scott has you idiots fooled!!
And by the way, like I said, SWATH is not Prometheus’s competiition it’s MADAGASCAR DUMMIES!!! Madagascar is going to kick its butt!!! A kids IMAX 3D FILM!!! So as you sit back to attack a lowly 2D movie, you’re barking up th wrong tree lol.
Mr. Fu sez,
I personally love all of your know it all comments. Looks like most of you have not worked in the industry or if you have, you grab coffee for a security exec.
A few things – if a film over performs and can do close to the budget domestically, it will be a money maker for the studio (at $71 million on a Wednesday, figure it will gross domestically $150+ million). Then depending what it does foreign, DVD/digital will be money in the bank and TV rights. Basically – it’s a hit you know it alls (or nothings). And a B score (for though whom haven’t gone to school in the past) is a good rating. Not great – I saw the film and while it was visually stunning, the story was pieced together – like 70% of all Hollywood films. But, it was enjoyable. And it’s worthy of a sequel if things line up the right way.
As far as that sequel, Hollywood is always looking to take the smallest risks and if a good script by a Koepp comes in and works, they’ll make it. Yeah – he totally sucks people. His films have only grossed billions world wide and you’ve all seen at least 5 of them, whether you know it or not.
By starting the process now, they’re just getting the wheels in motion. Universal won’t make a sequel unless this does $300 million worldwide – which it does have a shot to do. which means, it made money kids, before rentals and TV sales!!!
And if they decide to not go forth, they pay Koepp his fee and it gets written off as developement, like they do to hundreds of films yearly.
Bottom line – if you have a film with Kristen Stewart, Liam Hennsworth and Charlize Theron and it’s #1, over performing, you start the process of a sequel and see what happens. Last time I checked, the 1st 2 are box office heros and Charlize is a good actress, so she’ll add hiney’s in the seats too.
In your scenario studios keep 100% of the box office and don’t have to pay for commercials and advertisements. Good luck in the mailroom kid.
You are good at crunching the numbers, but show the fundamental disconnect in the industry. You equate box office returns with talent and audience interest. Snow White made enough to be a marginal hit for a summer blockbuster, but the audience won’t be there next time and getting the writer of Spider-Man 1 and Indiana Jones 4 is not going to entice them more in the marketing.
It needed more explosions. Some zombies (other then Kristen Stewart) would have been nice.
Most of the people commenting on here sound like a bunch of pretentious, whiny film snobs. The movie was entertaining and visually stunning! Plus, if you actually know anything about fairy tales and their roots you would see that they actually did a good job. Could some of the characters have been fleshed out more? Yes. I’m excited to see how that will play out in the sequel. Not to mention that this was a first time director. He’s one to watch for I would say. Well anyway, the majority of the audience loved the film and it is a success. It seems to me that there are a lot of pre-conceived notions when it comes to Kristen Stewart. She’s not a bad actress. I think some people already decided way before they ever watched the film how they were going to rate it. Just saying.