Luke Y. Thompson contributes to Deadline’s coverage of Comic-Con. This year’s event runs July 12-15.
For all the claims that Comic-Con turned a movie into a hit, an equal number of pundits can argue otherwise. The fact is, it’s impossible to argue Comic-Con is the sole driving factor behind any successful movie. It’s more like the equivalent of a Republican presidential candidate speaking at Bob Jones University or the Democratic candidate speaking at the AFL-CIO: it may not guarantee a win, but you gotta fire up the base. On the other hand, one generally can say that if a presentation bombs at Comic-Con, the movie will have trouble ahead. For example, there’s last year’s still-unreleased Dorothy Of Oz, which attempted to coast on Patrick Stewart’s laurels (last year’s gay-sex proposal to him from a fan remains the best example to date of an audience questioner slipping through the screening process), and the animated feature 9, which used an already-overplayed trailer to try and excite fans who already had seen it many times.
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The strongest argument in favor of a Comic-Con bump is Kick-Ass, which came to the show undistributed and was picked up by Lionsgate after it got one of the best reactions of the weekend. The biggest argument against, ironically, is what we might call the Samuel L. Jackson effect: The crowd adores him, and yet his appearances did nothing for Snakes On A Plane or The Spirit (notably, he has not been announced for this year’s Django Unchained panel).
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So with Universal and Paramount skipping out this year, what’s missing, and what could have used the bump? Let’s take a look:
Paramount: The most obvious example this week of a movie you might expect to do Comic-Con is Jack Reacher, with its conveniently timed trailer. But if you can’t get Tom Cruise to show, what would be the point? And frankly, Cruise needs to control his PR a bit better than opening himself to a room of cynical geeks and their questions (imagine his reaction to a proposition like the one Stewart heard last year). Add to that the fact that non-sci-fi action movies aren’t in any way a sure thing for Comic-Con and this seems like no loss for the studio. Anchorman 2 might have been a mistaken miss; Will Ferrell usually comes and gets high marks (like showing up in blueface for Megamind), but comedies, even when they’re fan-driven sequels, are hit and miss at the Con, as we’ve discussed previously. Could have gone either way on that one.
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Rise of the Guardians, if it actually is hipper than prior Santa Claus mashups like The Santa Clause 3, might have benefited from a demonstration. If it’s straight kiddie fare, not so much. On the other animated hand, The Croods, which sounds like a Flintstones riff with Nicolas Cage, should have been a no-brainer — Cage can be counted on to bring the crazy, and a newly insane hairpiece, each time. Hansel And Gretel: Witch Hunters could have coasted on Jeremy Renner’s newfound popularity as an Avenger, plus it’s a January release and needs the help. G.I. Joe: Retaliation and World War Z are reportedly troubled productions that could use the damage control … unless it can’t be controlled.
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Finally, there’s JJ Abrams’ Star Trek sequel, and while the audience here would love a taste, the movie doesn’t need them. The first one did just fine using one Con as a casting announcement forum and skipping the subsequent one completely (except for poster giveaways). Besides, there’s always the Star Trek Las Vegas convention in August.
Universal: While we can apply the aforementioned Tom Cruise logic to Oblivion, Universal has several other original properties that could have gotten a bump from Comic-Con. The Keanu Reeves actioner 47 Ronin (which could use some differentiation from both the Robert De Niro action movie Ronin and the Frank Miller graphic novel of the same name), and particularly the comic-book based R.I.P.D. (about a team of undead cops starring Jeff Bridges and Ryan Reynolds — both fanboy faves) would have been perfect selections. Perhaps they didn’t have anything ready in time.
The Fast And The Furious 6 would undoubtedly play well but doesn’t need the help. Vin Diesel’s other project, a Riddick threequel, could really use it but probably has very little to show for now. The Jason Bateman comedy Identity Thief … Well, let’s just say the Extract panel didn’t lead to big bucks. Despicable Me 2 might be a crowd-pleaser, as those Minions are tough to resist, but it also doesn’t need the help. Although Al Pacino coming to Comic-Con could have been huge.
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Good analysis. I would add a bit of advice — don’t come to Comic-Con if you don’t really believe in your film. The fans will sense the BS.
Sorry Dan, but James (the poster below you) had it right. This might be one of Deadline’s most useless articles ever.
ComicCON is a great place for nerds to dress up and act like nerds and geek-out over stupid s**t, but going there does absolutely jack squat for your movie. I like how they try to coin a new term for people not wanting to go see s**ty movies: The Sam Jackson Effect.
Completely unfair to Sam. People will come out in herds for Django b/c QT always makes a good movie and the trailer is great. People love Sam for his talents and his great body of work. No one went and saw the The Spirit b/c the trailers were terrible and the geeks that showed up knew a turd when they saw one.
If you want your movie to succeed, here’s the secret. MAKE A GOOD MOVIE. MAKE A KILLER TRAILER! That gets asses in seats the first week and then it’s up to critics and WOM to keep them coming.
People went and saw 21 Jump Street b/c the trailer looked really funny. Then when it turned out the movie was really funny, well people tell their friends and voila!
Uh….so your point was????
I really don’t understand the absence of Uni, especially in light of the upcoming R.I.P.D. Personally, I’m thinking the reason is that the film just isn’t any good. Of all the films being featured at SDCC, R.I.P.D. *should* hit close to the top of the must-see-panel-list for this crowd. Then again, maybe Uni didn’t feel the need to spend the money at SDCC with only one film to fit the niche market attending? Fast 6 hasn’t even started filming and Identity Thief isn’t something that would necessarily play to this crowd.
Can someone please fill me in to what happened “(imagine his reaction to a proposition like the one Stewart heard last year)”… Quite curious.
Riddick 3 has been wrapped for three months. There’s plenty they could show.
Is Ryan Reynolds really a fanboy favorite? Besides being a waterdowned Deadpool, I don’t see how he could be a fanboy favorite since fanboys blame him for Green Lantern. Maybe Blade: Trinity?
BLADE TRINITY? You mean the Blade film nobody likes?
Ryan’s one of those guys the industry likes, so they push him. I can’t think of ANYTHING he’s been in that would make him a “fanboy favorite.”
Hey, some writers will be there, too, you know. I think they have us in the second level men’s room. Stall seating only.
My guess? People have learned that you have to come with elaborate presentations that will rise above the noise or not at all. No shame to sit out if you don’t have slamming, finished fx in place yet. Unless you are something like Anchorman 2, which I agree would be a win just on the personalities. Leeroy, FWIW, I have heard nothing but positive sounds about Ripd. My guess? They fall into the the not ready, too far from release date camp. Same with Star Trek.
Maybe they meant fangirl favorite…
COMIC CON used to be about Comics – now it’s been hijacked by the Hollywood marketing machine!
We have George Freekin’ Lucas to blame! 1976 – a YEAR Before STAR WARS opens he and Mark Hamill are there to promote it!
So you’re saying that Comic-Con hasn’t been about comics since 1976? About 35 of its 40 or so years of existence? Right…
And before that, Bob Dylan ruined the world by going electric.
Sony is crazy not to promote Skyfall at Comic-Con. They NEVER promote Bond there, but Bond’s really a good fit. As Luke points out, there’s a definite dearth of non-sci-fi action, but James Bond fits better than Jack Reacher because it’s a long-established franchise with a huge following among the geek crowd. Just scan the dealer floor. You’ll find decades’ worth of 007 memorabilia–including comics. (Let’s not forget that.)
At least Fox will have a booth promoting the new 50th Anniversary Bond Blu-rays. That’s a start…
The studios have now realized Comic Con can be a waste of time and money. They only have themselves to blame they are the ones who turned the Con into such a giant hype machine. But since the hype can sometimes prove to be a waste of money they are now afraid to spend the money that they usd to. Too many films have been disappointments after being “launched” at Comic Con it’s no longer a good investment.
CompletelY ignoring the biggest factor of why studios are not going to comic-con.
Cost.
It has just gotten way too expensive for the return.
Paramount and universal are but the first, expect even more next year.
Maybe eventually the comix fans might get their convention back lol
Universal has had a horrible track record with Comic Con with Scott Pilgrim and Cowboys and Aliens, so it’s not really a surprise that they’re sitting this year out.
Your analysis is correct, though, the it’s meant to fire up the party faithful. Comic Con is not a king maker, but in terms of marketing expenditures, it’s pretty reasonable and can’t hurt in getting the word out.
The studios have just started to figure out that the fanboy culture won’t just show up because they came to CC. They have to, you know, actually like the product. My prediction is that we’re going to see a continuation of the trend of less studio participation in the years ahead.
One of the best telling moments in Hall H was when Warners hosted the panel for Johah Hex. They had just rolled the trailer, which I think was the first time anyone had seen anything, and afterwards Brolin asks, “Did you guys like the trailer?” Enthusiastic response. “Who’s going to see it opening weekend?” Almost dead silence. Brolin goes, “Oh man.” Oh man, indeed.
Comicon is mostly a waste of money IMO. The internet is the great equalizer anyway.
Most films that do really well do so because they already have a built in base or interest or the movie is just good and word of mouth spreads.
Sucker Punch, Scott Pilgrim vs The World, Kick Ass are just a few that the con did nothing for them despite being well received at the con. At the con you’re playing to your fanbase as opposed to the general public which is who really decides how movies perform.
Stick to the internet and the fanboy websites, it’s cheaper and probably more effective with a wider reach
That’s because the G-man…I mean, Mr. Lucas was down the fanboys (I wish I was alive at that time).
God, I’m sick of the CC hype the past few years. Why give the geeks so much attention? You honestly think that they’re going the make-or-break a film in today’s market? There is far to much catering to this crowd. Just go read the screeching at AICN – you want THOSE people “marketing” your film?