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Reports that Fox and Marvel Studios are going to do some horse-trading with its Fantastic Four franchise to keep Daredevil in the fold were being strenuously denied by sources I’ve talked to. Deadline revealed during Comic-Con last month that Fox was facing a ticking clock over Daredevil rights, which will revert to Marvel’s new owners at Disney if the reboot doesn’t go into production soon. Those hopes dimmed when David Slade stepped out as director. The new report had Disney willing to extend the rights, but only if Fox lends it the right to use in its own films the villain Galactus, a major baddie from both the Fox-controlled Fantastic Four and The Silver Surfer. It doesn’t make sense. With Chronicle helmer Josh Trank aboard to direct, Fantastic Four is a big priority and the studio would be crazy to give away a cornerstone villain it could use now or down the line. Especially when the studio is very lukewarm about rebooting Daredevil, which focuses on blind lawyer Matt Murdock and his emergence as a crime fighter powered by heightened sensory perception. While Joe Carnahan has come to the studio with a take, it sounds like Fox is ready to let it revert to Disney-owned Marvel, unless Disney is interested in co-financing. That is what the current talks are really about.
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Given how poorly they interpreted Galactus in Rise of the Silver Surfer, I can’t imagine why they’d want to hold onto him.
Fox would rather destroy the characters than allow someone else to succeed with them.
‘THEY’ did nothing as far as interpretation of GALACTUS goes in Rise of SS… what they did was borrow an idea that has been done already in COMICS. So galactus can be either a swarm or a single individual from what I have read. #justsaying (love the hash tag)
Please…..PLEASE keep Carnahan away from these properties!!!
Smokin’Aces was lame and had one of the worst endings ever!
A-team was such a misfire and he only tried to distance himself away from it when it was a box office turkey. I remember before that he was saying it was going to be as big as Batman with at least 3 sequels!
There are too many other talented directors to go with so move on!
Ha! Smokin aces was amazing!!
You obviously haven’t seen NARC and THE GREY.
Joe Carnahan is EXACTLY the type of director that should be handling a DAREDEVIL adaptation.
Also, I don’t think he ever said that THE A-TEAM was going to be as big as Batman with at least three sequels, that’s you making stuff up to support your argument.
I really do hope Marvel Studios gets Daredevil back. It’d be great to get all the Marvel universe characters in the same fold, under the care of people who really understand them and their appeal.
Hopefully, this will set a precedent and Sony will sell Spider-Man back to Marvel next. To paraphrase Nick Fury, “Sony… you’re up!”
I’d love to see all the Marvel characters in one universe too… but also excited about the idea of a grittier, 70s action style Daredevil. Have mixed feelings on Carnahan, but if the film is more Narc than Smokin’ Aces (ugh), then we should be good.
Marvel having the rights back doesn’t mean they’d have the means to make all those films. They have finite resources, and they’re not going to axe something for a Daredevil reboot. Its in their interest to have other studios paying them to play with the characters they likely wouldn’t pursue anyway.
I’m confused as to what you’re referring to when you talk about the “means to make all those films”. Marvel is currently owned by Disney Studios, and has pretty much hit a home run with every Marvel property film for the past five years, starting with Iron Man.
Disney has been producing films for several decades.
If the notion is that between Marvel Studios and Disney Studios they won’t be able to finance other film projects, I’d love to see what facts you have to support it.
If the idea is that there aren’t enough actors, directors, cameramen, extras, or stunt men to go around, I’d like to see your proof or evidence of that.
I think that Marvel/Disney will be able to support any project tyhat they deem may be profitable. As long as the new projects have the same quality of acting, writing and directing as we’re seeing from the more recent films, including A-list actors and directors, I think these films will continue to draw in audiences. The notion of a unified Marvel Universe, featuring cameos and references to characters from movies already well received by the public should only help to increase the likely prospects of success.
Stan Lee, as the Editor of Marvel Comics figured out just how profitable a unified, continuous Marvel Universe could be. Hopefully, the movie studios will realize that very same thing.
The only way I see Sony ditching Spider-Man is if they’re in the process of getting rid of their film division.
If I were Fox I would much rather keep Fantastic Four than Daredevil. It’s a no brainer, really. Can’t say that this surprises me.
Good – let it revert to Disney/Marvel, so they can turn Daredevil into a TV series: an action-packed neo-noir legal series. Something along the lines of The Good Wife meets Dexter. Would be awesome.
I think it’s time for Marvel/Disney to play hardball. Fox has horded the rights to the Daredevil and Fantastic Four franchises for years with no outpout and nothing planned for release through 2015.
If Marvel/Disney only gets Daredevil back out of this, good. It’s been almost 10 years since Daredevil and 7 and a half since Elektra. Fox can’t sit on these characters forever with nothing to show for it. Just like they were never serious about adapting Watchmen into a movie.
They can sit as long as their rights agreements allow. Whether they’re doing right by the characters (and the audience, for that matter) really doesn’t factor here above the legality.
You’ve missed the point entirely Tucker. In this situation here though, Fox has sat on Daredevil for as long as legally possible and now it looks like that franchise will revert to Marvel/Disney. But if Marvel can get at least one franchise back, that is a win.
How they’ve been legally able to sit on Daredevil for this long though, makes you wonder what kind of deals Marvel signed when they licensed out their characters years back.
Fox was able to sit on Daredevil because that was part of the deal. They have as long as the deal says to make a movie. What’s happening with Daredevil is what happened to Iron Man when New Line Cinema had the rights. They just missed the deadline.
I know these movies make a LOT of money, but we need to stop talking about these characters like they’re Michael Corleone or Travis Bickle. It’s depressing.
One person’s Godfather is another person’s Avengers.
Wiser words have not often been spoken (here, at any rate).
And why is that Bill C.? Because they are based on comic books? Does it disgust you that some people might prefer The Avengers or The Dark Knight to The Godfather? Tastes differ.
It doesn’t disgust me. It’s just a bummer that these comic book movies seem to be taking up so much real estate in the movie-going landscape. Yes, they’re revered characters from the comics. But does that make them great roles for actors? Are we going to be talking about Chris Hemsworth’s performance as Thor in 30 years? Or Chris Evans as Captain America? Those movies came out yesterday and I barely remember them.
This is where your snobbery comes through.
People still talk about Jack Nicolson as Joker in the Batman do they not? To Nicholson it’s one of his favorite roles and he even claimed for years it was a role he wanted to return to and do more of even saying things like, “Joker is still alive, the chemicals he was pumped full of kept him alive.”
In 30 years? Who knows. I think in 30 years people will still talk about Robert Downey Jr.’s role as Iron Man/Tony Stark. You can’t even argue that. That role revived and resurrected his career. It made him a box office draw and an A-lister. It got his career going again. People still talk about Connery as Bond 50 years later so yes people can still talk about these actors in these roles.
Heath Ledger won an Academy Award for Dark Knight. So yes, these movies and these roles will be remembered and recognized for years and generations to come hopefully despite your attitude.
…these are characters with 60+ years of history behind them
so in a certain POV, they are much better than a Michael Corleone or Travis Bickle
Nope, I’m really sorry but there’s no weak-minded “certain point of view” pandering argument you think you can tease here that’s going to to convince me that anything Marvel Studios produces in the coming years leads to anything on the same level as DeNiro’s Travis Bickle and Pacino’s Michael Corleone.
It’s the difference between, and please forgive me; a fantastic comic book an only decent novel. And yes, this is snobbery, but there is no comparison between the two, unless you’re comparing Watchmen and some shitty pornographic or Christian dime pamphlet…
“so in a certain POV, they are much better than a Michael Corleone or Travis Bickle.” Nah, not really.
Or, you could just, you know…. not join conversations you find so dis-interesting.
No way Disney went into talks with Fox if the only deal on the table was to allow Disney the option to co-finance a Fox film. Disney never would have even started talks if that was the deal.
It may make sense to Mike Fleming that a studio would like to save on development costs and co-finance another studio’s product, but Fox aldready pissed away their “cornerstone” villain in an entire $100+ million disappointment that they’ll never remake anyway.
The truth is, if you’ve ever seen a Fox produced Marvel film in your life, then you would know they’ve been trying to avoid the “cosmic stuff” at every turn. They blew the most famous X-Men story ever told, The Dark Phoenix Saga, and dumped every space-based aspect from that story. Fox didn’t even send the Fantastic Four into deep space, but rather placed them on an orbiting space station.
Fox is only back-pedaling now because this story made it more apparent than ever that they have no idea what the real value of these characters are (and I’m talking story, not $$$). More and more of the entertainment news media is picking up on Disney/Marvel Studios’ unparalleled success with their own in-house productions where other studios continue to flounder with only a single successful ongoing franchise… If that.
Despite the success of First Class, Fox can still see that the diminishing returns of the X-Men franchise hasn’t turned around. They just can’t explain it. To see Marvel Studios, that has no less than 5 successful Marvel franchises still going, get that much positive press for asking for their characters back… Fox knows it made them look exactly like what they are. Clueless.
Let the spin continue.
^This times its over 9000.
I’m pretty sure it would be a bit more than just Disney co-financing a 20th Century Fox film. I would imagine a co-financing deal would be more along the lines of Disney co-financing the film along with getting the rights to Daredevil back but 20th Century Fox does most of the heavy lifting like marketing, distribution, etc.
And honestly it makes sense. Disney would benefit from Daredevil entering the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Marvel Studios being involved would guarantee a level of quality control to ensure that we don’t get another MSJ Daredevil film, and they most likely would get the rights back. But Disney’s Marvel Studios slate is absolutely full, they just don’t have the time to make a Daredevil film in the near future. That’s where 20th Century Fox would come in and do the heavy lifting and they benefit from having a major blockbuster that’s associated with one of the biggest movies of all time in their slate.
What? No. Never. We are never giving up Daredevil. The movie will go into production on Oct. 9th even if I have to direct it myself.
Ha! Ha! That’s some funny shite!
Corporations fighting over Galactus. Love it!
Daredevil may be that rare superhero character who would be better off on TV than movies. He fits nearly into the lawyer/investigator/cop with a handicap/secret power trope so popular now.
This deal makes no sense to me. Sure, Marvel would get a couple of bad guys, but on Oct 10th they would get Dardevil AND all the badies that property comes with. You don’t think they want Kingpin etc? Why waste that for a couple of bad guys!?
And who the hell wants Joe Carnahan to bring his headache inducing cranage to a Marvel property!? His last pic was good, put I don’t trust him with large action properties. A-Team was awful.
Galactus would be huge for marvel. Might turn around the second wave of marvel films that as of now is hinging on guardians of the galaxy
why not just lend Fox the rights to use Kermit the Frog in their Sesame Street movie, Disney?
Let’s keep hoping that Marvel gets the rights back to all of its characters very soon. All the Marvel characters deserve to be under the same banner. Then you’ll really get to see how great the entire Marvel Universe is when it’s working together.
I agree. I want to see ALL the Marvel characters under ONE banner and that’s MARVEL! It’s was a complete JOKE how FOX used the Galactus character in the second FF movie. I know at least with Marvel he’ll be done right and represent the Galactus that we all grew up on and are used to!
For the uninitiated, Galactus is one of the most powerful and iconic villains/comic forces in the Marvel Universe. I can see how this makes sense to Marvel as Galactus would be an excellent foe for the upcoming Avengers sequel. Galactus is one villain that Marvel fanboys will really get excited about.
This such a fascinating story, because Marvel/Disney is really bargaining with itself several years ago. After spending years and years wresting the rights from several small-time producers, they turned around and licensed the characters to whichever studio would pony up the money. Now their best characters (Spiderman, X-men and Fantastic Four) are stretched across several studios, Fox, Sony and Universal, which forced them to develop B-list heroes (and ease off, fanboys, just talking brand recognition). Now they are in the position of having to wait for their own characters to fail in new movies to eventually get them back. I wager that the next time we see Spiderman, Wolverine and Iron Man in the same film is about 25 years from now. Seriously.
Good post, except for you calling them Marvel’s best characters.
“This deal makes no sense to me. Sure, Marvel would get a couple of bad guys, but on Oct 10th they would get Dardevil AND all the badies that property comes with. You don’t think they want Kingpin etc? Why waste that for a couple of bad guys!?”
Are you seriously asking why Marvel would want a universal planet devouring force and a popular cosmic-powered superhero over a fat crime boss? Those characters are worth far more to Marvel than anything Daredevil has to offer given the movies they’re making. Why in the world would Marvel want or need the Kingpin? He’s a villain for street-level heroes only. He’s not somebody you throw up against the Avengers.
The Silver Surfer and Galactus, however, are very much necessary given what we’ve seen and heard of so far (Thanos, Guardians of the Galaxy, etc). If Marvel tells the story of the Infinity Gauntlet then they’re going to want both the Silver Surfer and Galactus for that. And if Guardians of the Galaxy succeeds and creates a franchise then adapting the Annihilation story is a natural next step, and both the Silver Surfer and Galactus play big roles in that, not to mention the Fantastic Four villain Annihilus.
Marvel’s moving in a more cosmic direction with their movies, and the Silver Surfer and Galactus are a perfect fit for that. Kingpin, however… not so much.
As for Fox, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Their focus when it comes to comic book movies should be the X-Men. Forget the Fantastic Four and Daredevil, as they’ll never be able to exploit those properties to their fullest (The Fantastic Four, especially, needs the rest of the Marvel Universe to REALLY shine. On its own it’s not so great). The X-Men is where it’s at. From what I understand they don’t quite have every X-Men related character there is, and big names like Cable, Longshot, Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch exist in a kind of grey area. If Fox had any sense they’d either A) Sell the Fantastic Four and Daredevil and all other associated characters back to Marvel, and/or B) Trade them to Marvel for whatever’s left of Marvel’s Mutant Universe that they still don’t own.
The X-Universe is, on its own, JUST as large and expansive as the regular Marvel Universe, so take advantage of that, Fox! Instead of screwing around with Daredevil and Fantastic Four expand the X-Men Universe. That’s a property which can easily support multiple movie lines, and they can justifiably be just as interconnected as the Marvel movies. And the great thing about them is that EVERY character has the same origin. You can throw out team movies and not have to introduce characters separately, because everybody, no matter how different their powers are, got their powers in the same way: they’re mutants who were born different.
If it were up to me, this is what I would do:
1) X-MEN 4: The goal here is to undo the events of X-Men 3, which cratered the franchise. This is admittedly the hardest part, given how much damage Ratner’s film inflicted on the franchise. The options here are to either find some narrative way to undo the deaths of Cyclops, Professor X (Yeah, he possessed that other guys body, but still), and Jean, OR… use time travel and erase it. Fox is doing Days of Future Past, so they’re not gunshy about using time travel in their X-Men franchise. This becomes easier if they acquire Cable from Marvel. The time traveling son of Scott Summers and Jean Grey? That’d definitely be interesting. And hey, you could cast Stephen Lang in the role. He’d be perfect.
(Speaking of which, Cyclops seriously needs to be recast. James Marsden is a good actor, but there’s a reason he was still doing teen movies when he was nearly 30. He looks like a child. Seriously, Famke looked like she was robbing the cradle every time she was next to him)
Once you undo the damage which X-Men 3 inflicted on the franchise, though, spin the franchise off into TWO flagship movie franchises.
2) ASTONISHING X-MEN: This would be the first, and would feature the X-Men Blue Team led by Cyclops and their adventures. The primary opponents for these films could be Mr. Sinister, the Marauders, Apocalypse, and so on. Treat Cyclops as the leading man and focus around those stories which are most associated with Cyclops and Phoenix.
3) UNCANNY X-MEN: The second film franchise which could be spun out of X-Men 4, except that it’s the X-Men Gold Team led by Storm (And as such, has a completely different roster). Both film franchises could run concurrently, maybe even releasing at different times of the same year. There could always be some crossover with heroes and villains from one reappearing in the other but, for the most part, they’d each have wholly different casts with the notable exception of Patrick Stewart as Professor X. The theme of these movies could be focused more on the element of mutant persecution and introduce the Sentinels, the Reavers, and Cameron Hodge.
4) DE-AGE MAGNETO: Ian McKellan has said it himself, one slip in the shower and he’s done for. We have to accept that he’s getting older and won’t be able to play Magneto for much longer, so take a page from the comics and de-age Magneto. Start out with Ian McKellan as Magneto in one film, then partway through the film de-age him into Michael Fassbender.
5) SPIN-OFFS: Fox got to a rocky start with X-Men Origins: Wolverine, but clearly they haven’t given up on the idea, as they’re filming The Wolverine right now. The idea of spin-offs isn’t bad one. The only problem was the terrible execution. Do a better job of it and the lucre will follow. Here’re spin-offs which should absolutely be considered:
- DEADPOOL: You ruined him in X-Men Origins: Wolverine, but you can still fix that mistake if you just ignore that movie. Give us a movie about the Merc With a Mouth in all his insane glory.
- X-FACTOR: A mutant detective agency. What’s not to like?
- X-FORCE: A mutant paramilitary force led by Cable. This could either be done like the original X-Force or, more interestingly, like the black ops squad which Cyclops created a while back. Put all of the X-Men’s deadliest killers in one team with Cyclops serving as the M to their Bond and unlease them against the Mutant Liberation Front and so on. Give us a team with Cable, Wolverine, Archangel, Psylocke, Domino, Deadpool, Fantomex, and maybe even X-23 (Now THAT is a character who’d be interesting to see in an X-Men movie. I’d love to see Hugh Jackman playing the father figure to a teenaged girl just like him).
- NEW X-MEN: This could be a mix of the New Mutants and the 2006 New X-Men comic book series. This could be the Harry Potter of the X-Men Universe with teenage kids attending the Xavier Institute and learning how to use their powers, all the while having adventures. This could be a ton of fun for families.
6) COSTUMES: Lastly, the X-Men are colorful. Embrace that! It worked just fine in Avengers, so why run from it? Dump the black leather uniforms and give us costumes more in line with what we’ve seen in the comics.
Anyway, that’s what I’d do if I were running things at Fox. Forget Daredevil, forget Fantastic Four. Focus instead on the X-Men. Astonishing X-Men, Uncanny X-Men, Deadpool, Wolverine, X-Factor, X-Force, New X-Men. That’s seven solid movie franchises which Fox could pursue, and if they’re going to be making comic book movies then that’s where they should be putting those resources instead of a fruitless attempt at exploiting the Daredevil and Fantastic Four franchises, which they’ll never really succeed at. At least not as much as they’d like to.
You don’t need Galactus and Silver Surfer to do a Thanos and Infinity Gauntlet story. In fact, Infinity Gauntlet was pretty independent in terms of involving Galactus and Silver Surfer.
The whole run-up to the Infinity Gauntlet was almost entirely in the pages of the Silver Surfer comic, and Thanos was treated as his arch-nemesis for a good long while. And the entire plan of the heroes hinged on the Silver Surfer’s ability to move faster than the speed of light and possibly snatch the gauntlet off of Thanos’s hand in the middle of the fight. Galactus was also the most noteworthy of the cosmic beings who fought against Thanos, and also played a large role in The Infinity War sequel.
There’s also Annihilation (which is a likely story possibility with the Guardians of the Galaxy), where Annihilus (a villain currently owned by Fox) used Galactus as a weapon, before Thanos helped free Galactus who then turned on Annihilus’s fleet.
The Silver Surfer is a member of the team called the Annihilators, which features some of Marvel’s most powerful cosmic heroes (Beta Ray Bill, Gladiator, Ronan the Accuser, Quasar, and Ikon).
Both the Silver Surfer and Galactus would be a great asset to the MCU, particularly with their expanding into the cosmic end of their titles, like Guardians of the Galaxy (They’ve mentioned Nova, as well). The Silver Surfer and Galactus are both natural additions to that (Not to mention other Fantastic Four villains like Annihilus, Blastaar, and Super-Skrull).
Daredevil and his rogues gallery, however, adds nothing to the MCU. There’s no real downside to Fox hanging on to it, at least in comparison to those Fantastic Four characters.
actually, it was independent of galactus (he was present though, along with the assortment of cosmic aspects, eternity, the living tribunal, etc), but not the silver surfer. Thanos returned to life in the pages of the silver surfer, and the surfer was a major player throughout the saga.
also, given the apparent exclusion of adam warlock, the surfer would make a good proxy for that character.
of course, given that the guardians of the galaxy had pretty much nothing to do with the storyline, i believe at that time they were still functioning in the future ala the legion of super heroes, the story would have to be changed dramatically to involve them.
“of course, given that the guardians of the galaxy had pretty much nothing to do with the storyline, i believe at that time they were still functioning in the future ala the legion of super heroes, the story would have to be changed dramatically to involve them.”
There’re two Guardians of the Galaxy teams, and they pretty much have almost nothing to do with each other other than the name. The first team was in the 31st century in an alternate future. The second one exists in 2008 in the regular Marvel Universe and not an alternate timeline. THAT is the team which is getting a movie, not the 31st century team.
And that team, or at least many of its members, did have a lot to do with Thanos and the Infinity Gems saga as it includes Adam Warlock, Gamora, Drax the Destroyer, and Moondragon, all of whom were neck deep in that. As for the upcoming movie, Gamora and Drax are certain to be in it. Whether Adam Warlock’s in it, though, remains up in the air.
I think Disney should take the Daredevil rights back and develop it into a TV series
That wouldn’t be a bad idea at all. They have a number of characters who could work as tv shows. Daredevil, the Punisher, Moon Knight, etc. It wouldn’t be a bad idea to see them developed in a Marvel Television Universe (MTU?).
Agree…
We should really stop using the word “Disney” when we talk about Marvel Studios. Disney may own Marvel Studios, but they’re smart enough to let Kevin Feige continue to do what he does best. So let’s stop acting as though the studio that brought you John Carter and Tron Legacy have any idea what to do with these characters. They don’t. Kevin Feige is the architect of Marvel Studios success and the juggernaut that is the Avengers feature film. Disney can only be credited with buying its way into distributing a blockbuster that was already under way.
Cuppajoe – uhh what? Tron Legacy made 400 million dollars without much exposition. Second it was a cool movie with one of the greatest soundtracks ever. The ancillary market was big because of that soundtrack. Don’t compare to John Carter
If Marvel were to acquire Daredevil, I think it would be cool for Fury to start up a street-division: The New Avengers, and if not a new series of films, then a television series, stappling Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, Punisher, and maybe Luke Cage (although I think he’s still owned by Sony). This new team can take on the local crimes. The New Avengers will be like the police force/FBI while the Avengers are like the Army.
There’s some weird sh*t going on here – & some real deal is being negotiated which isn’t Daredevil & Galactus swap or Daredevil Disney part-finance.
Co-finance is plain silly – why put money into Fox’s perverted version of DD when you can hang back and pick it up in October.
As for the FF – are they really such a dead-cert for a relaunch?
Even Spider-man, a bigger brand recognition, failed to really light the fire – it seemed totally un-necessary.
To make any kind of splash they’d have to go big bucks – do Fox really want to burn $200M for a series they’ve failed with before.
The real deal – maybe Disney are talking part-finance of FF to maintain the Marvel brand.
Fox is dumb dumb dumb to let Daredevil revert, b/c Marvel Studios will certainly figure out how to make a buckmoff him–look how prominent the Hulk was in Avengers! But it’s well known that apart from the X-Men films Tom Rothman is tired of the comic book movie as a product and would rather develop new franchises.
For God’s sake PLEASE ADD DEADPOOL IN THAT DEAL. Deadpool in Avengers hired by Nick Fury = Box office Diamond. CHIMICHANGA!
I hunger……for my rights to revert back to Marvel.
I’ve said this many times and will say it again, its marvel ‘s own fault that they don’t have all their film properties under one roof.
It served a purpose at one point. It helped keep the company afloat and getting the movies made helped resurrect the company and save it from bankruptcy.
But it’s not the end of the world if the characters stay. Now clearly some characters are returning and more can and will happen eventually. They got Blade and Punisher back already and hopefully the Daredevil franchise will be next. It is only a matter of time before all of the Marvel characters return to Marvel.
I’d rather Marvel get the rights back to Daredevil and his entire “universe” which includes Electra, Bullseye, Kingpin, The Hand, et.al. than just get Galactus and Surfer back which are really meaningless without the FF.
All Marvel has to do is sit back and wait eventually the FF will revert back to them.
It would be wise not speak for anyone but yourself. As much as I revere in high regard the performances of Al Pacino and Robert de Niro you bring up, I also will remember, admire and enjoy Chris Evans’ and Chris hemworth’s performances as Captain America and Thor, respectively, many years to come. Just like the former two actors, the latter two brought to life these characters on screen in engaging, unforgettable ways. You’re just being a snooty dick.
I am a big Fantastic Four fan and seeing what FOX did to the FF, I’m seriously going to boycott their reboot of the Fantastic Four. Why can’t they just do it for the love of the material. Marvel will definitely do the FF (Galactus and Silver Surfer included) justice given the tone of their movies. FOX just can’t get comic book movies right but I think they do have a chance of doing Daredevil justice if they do the Frank Miller-esque Hard Core Daredevil they’re talking about because DD would suit that tone of movie (which Marvel on the other hand cannot do because their movies have to have a PG13 rating). So I say give to Marvel and to FOX the things that they’d excel expressing on the big screen.