UPDATE OCT. 3: I’m trying to get the full story. But I’ve learned that everyone associated with the futuristic actioner Looperin China — Sony and TriStar Pictures, FilmDistrict, Endgame Entertainment, and the Chinese co-producer DMG Entertainment — made a blooper. Their execs reported early but wrong box office grosses. The reason is innocent enough: calculating grosses from some theaters mixed up dollars with yuan, making the tally appear much bigger than it actually was. The result is that no records were set, as execuives claimed. It was not the first time an international film debut beat the U.S., as executives also claimed. And no one knows whether it opened #1 in China. Instead of $23M-$25M grosses for its first weekend in China, one source tells me the actual figure may be only $5M-$7M. (One China film blog thinks it’s more like $4M-$5M.) I’m still trying to obtain the correct final box office tally (delayed by the Chinese National Holiday). Meanwhile I’ll be correcting my previous reports – although I did note that Endgame’s James Stern was “cagey” confirming the records because “we don’t have the final box office tally” but congratulated his team nonetheless.
PREVIOUS: I’ve learned that the Sony/TriStar Pictures, FilmDistrict, and Endgame Entertainment futuristic actioner Looper which was a co-production with China’s DMG Entertainment is setting records in that country. The Rian Johnson film pulled off a huge upset in China by opening #1 its first weekend with between $23M-$25M grosses. (Although there’s a debate about how little the U.S. companies get to keep vs the Chinese investor…) That’s on track to beat the U.S. opening. “If that happens, it would be the first time that China’s open outgrosses that of a U.S. open,” a source tells me. Endgame’s James Stern is cagey confirming this because there will be nothing official until Tuesday. He tells me: “While we don’t have the final box office tally’s because of the Chinese National Holiday, it looks as if we are #1 in that market and at least on par if not exceeding the U.S. box office, marking the very first time in history that China would be world’s leading market for an international film. A big congratulations to my partner Dan Mintz and his team at DMG are in order.”
The time-traveling hitman film starring Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Bruce Willis, and Emily Blunt became partly financed by the Chinese production company DMG and went through some major changes to please the new investors happy. The script was rewritten to take place in China instead of France 60 years into the future when China has become the largest superpower in the world and innovated time travel. Also Chinese actress Xu Qing was added to the cast as Willis’ wife. All this helped Looper’s chance of premiering day and date in China so it could take advantage of the country’s cinema building boom. The strategy obviously paid off.
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By major changes she means aprox seven minutes of footage that was originally scripted as future France was changed to a VFX’d future China.
China’s film market will obviously be a huge growth opportunity for revenue, and quite possible one of the only ones. This is quite historic and obviously very smart for all involved.
Smart economically, yes. Smart artistically? Hell, no. When you’re most influential movie viewer customer becomes the Communist Chinese censorship board? Yep, that’s going to go well.
Frankly, I don’t want movies subjected to Communist Chinese Censorship and propaganda to be forbidden in the United States, but I do want such films labeled with a large-screen advisory warning:
Warning: this film was produced under the control of the censors of an authoritarian regime: in this film, you will only see positive references to that regime, its leaders, its culture, and its people. On the other hand, you will likely see complex (good, bad, or indifferent) references to other nations, their leaders, their cultures, and their people.
“[...]when China has become the largest superpower in the world and innovated time travel.”
I like Looper. But it p**ses me off that the Chinese investors made this propagandist change.
“hey, we’ll give you money if you set this in China.”
Doesn’t seem like much to me.
So, why do Japanese film companies (Sony) not feel compelled to require that blockbuster films targeting American or world markets be set in Japan, and only portray Japanese people in a positive light?
Why is it that only Communist Chinese companies require this?
In all the interviews I’ve read, they didn’t have the budget to shoot on location in France, and were planning to double New Orleans for France instead. When the opportunity came up for co-financing that allowed them to shoot on location in Shanghai, Johnson went for it, and it’s not hard to see why. Having just seen the film, it makes absolutely no difference to the story using one country or the other for that little detour. Not a word of commentary is said about China or the Chinese people, and any implications that they become a major superpower in the future are barely there.
You beat me to it and said it better: the locale change has no narrative impact, and there is zero nationalist propaganda of any stripe to be seen – just the kind of movie that people should make more of.
I gotta disagree with you. The movie, irrespective of its Communist Chinese propaganda and censorship, was dreadful.
Yes, nothing to worry about here…nothing at all. Whatever could possibly be wrong with an American film controlled by the Communist Chinese censorship board portraying America in the future as a dystopian hell hole, and alluding to China of the future as the center of world civilization? Or, a film that portrays Americans as variously venal and materialistic (prostitute/strippers), brutal and looser-like (the loopers), or competent and charming (the diner waitress), but portrays the single Chinese character living in future Shanghai as loving and devoted?
I see no problem here. I’ll just focus on my popcorn.
lol- no wonder it was #1 – easy money next time – all you have to do is make china the greatest, most bestus, place on the earth, and the majorest super-duper power
Yep, and we’re going to see more and more Communist Chinese show up in the oddest places: the Communist Chinese engineers in “Salmon Fishing in Yemen”; the Communist Chinese technologists in “2012″; and the devoted and loving Communist Chinese wife in “Looper.”
What’s next: “Hamlet” set in Beijing? The “Christmas Carol” set in Shanghai?
It’s going to be like American television before commercials: you remember, when characters in dramas and comedies jarringly and obviously employ or display a commercial product, paid for by their commercial sponsors.
You know the sad thing? American women and American minorities have had a very hard time being represented in major Hollywood movies: now, they have to compete with the mandatory inclusion of actors and actresses from Communist China.
The change from France to China also led to one of the best laughs in the movie. I’m not seeing any downside on this.
No wonder Joe wanted to go to France so badly lol…and ended up in China.
The beginning of China, rather than Hollywood, dictating what we see in blockbusters.
I think you’ll find this has been happening for a while already, as countless movies have scenes or storylines that take place in China. I’m not saying that there isn’t an obvious plot reason for this, but I think those in the know, recognise China as being a HUGE market and probably will in due course take over the US in terms of a movie’s success (as Chinese cinema is growing rapidly); so more movies will have a Chinese setting/character to satisfy China’s masses.
People go to the movies for escapism (Chinese included). So there’s no obvious reason why a movie would have to take place in China for it to be a success in China. Transformers 3 and Harry Potter ATDHP2 grossed more money there during their opening weekends than Looper, yet they have nothing to do with China or Chinese culture.
For example: the new RED DAWN.
I don’t have a problem with American movie companies trying to appeal to the vast Chinese market from time to time; I do have a problem with American movie companies having to appeal to the Communist Chinese Board of censorship and propaganda.
Looper‘s Chinese grosses so far are about US$1 million from Friday and $1.7m from Saturday. Perhaps the source confused 23-25m yuan for 23-25m dollars. (25m yuan = US$4m, which is more realistic though probably an underestimate.) Alternatively, the $23-25m number could a projection for the first week and not just the weekend.
Also, I saw the film in China and time travel was never referred to as a Chinese invention. Maybe that took that out of the Chinese version, though that would be odd to say the least.
Also, Titanic 3D‘s opening in China blew away the U.S. opening, though it did not have an “opening weekend” as such in China (it opened on a Tuesday).
Yes, it seems they have confused the local currency with US$. The latest projection for China’s 3-day opening is about RMB 44M, or US$ 7M, no where near the US result.
Funny how China wants to be in some movies and can’t wait to be deleted from others like Red Dawn and Total Recall.. recalls.
Next stop, Iron Man 3 and the discovery that chairman Mao was close friend and ally to Tony’s good old dad.
Yes, I’m looking for the new Hobbit movie to feature a side trip for Bilbo and Gandalf to China, with the addition of one or two noble and beautiful Communist Chinese elves.
Sometimes if you want to make money you have to make changes. I loved how the diologue between Joe and his boss,
So no worries. It worked well, and there are still so many doors left open for another looper movie. Let them loop to France then.
“I’m going to France.”
“You should go to china.”
“Im going to France.”
“I’m from the future. You should go to China.”
“I’m going to France.” ***Then he ends up IN CHINA*** very funny way they made the change and both me and my daughter laughed.
There’s something slightly sinister about script changes to serve Chinese propaganda. The Nazis did the same thing. The changes on Looper may seem relatively minor, but you can bet this is only the beginning and 10 years down the line we’ll be watching movies that paint China as a bastion for human rights (when nothing could be further from the truth). Like I said, sinister.
MGM changed Red Dawn to appease the Chinese the movie was filmed with China as the bad guys then in post production all of the enemy flags and uniforms and weapons markings were changed to North Korean. That’s how powerful the Chinese market now is they were able to force a change in a movie after it was filmed. MGM realized they were risking a lot of money so they spent extra money to make all the changes the Chinese wanted. The North Koreans will be happy with the changes they will show Red Dawn to their prison populace and tell them it’s a documentary it’s going to be propaganda for them their citizens will believe it really happened.
You’re 100% right!
Or… none of it will ever happen and you’re one of those paranoid people that blow everything out of proportion and see some kind of “menace” around every corner.
Either of the two… I can’t tell which.
Oh relax. When it comes to demanding “propagandist” changes to story and character the American studios are much, much worse. Seven minutes of the film taking place in the country that paid for it is hardly propaganda. Bruce Willis quoting Mao’s red book is propaganda.
If you liked the film you hardly have any reason to be pissed off, without Asian money it wouldn’t exist at all.
HW, my patriotism takes preeminence over my enjoyment of a movie.
Blind, xenophobic patriotism… how could that ever go wrong?
Completely untrue– the movie was financed and ready to go when the Chinese offered to make it a co-production by tossing in a few bucks and shooting for 6 days in China. It was a greenlit picture long before the Chinese stepped in.
It is sad that money talk. I wanted to read the original material that Looper came from and read how the book and the film was change. my eye open. I will go to the movie and watch it. I got a feeling that the DVD will be on sale before I sit in the theater.
Guys, in regards to the two concerns that have been brought up in the comments:
1. China dictating what we see in Hollywood film — reality check, that’s honestly never gonna happen. Sony outright bought its own studio. Did you see Spider-Man set in Tokyo to appease them? A change in script locale to please and acknowledge an investor abroad doesn’t count as propaganda, it counts as good business. Absolutely no problems with this.
2. The MGM Red Dawn changes — Even without China as a newfound ally in film investment and development, the idea of remaking Red Dawn with Chinese as the villains was both awfully stupid and awfully racist. It was stupid because they always have been and always will be an important economic ally long before they got into film investment — why on Earth would you piss them off and make them evil villains in a movie to be seen worldwide? Unless, you know… you’re allergic to doing business and making good money at it.
The thing that bothers me more about this, however, is that if not for all the money that stood to be lost from China the xenophobia inherent within would’ve gone through completely unchecked! As it is, all that’s happened now is that it’s been shifted over to another culture which means the entire concept is still playing on a the completely unfounded white America’s fears of an invasion from a different culture. Rest easy, my American friends and family, I assure you that your country will never be invaded by Russians, Asians on any continent no matter how crazy their leaders might be, Mexicans or my fellow Canadians.
But seriously, there’s a good reason the original Red Dawn film is completely outdated and nobody replays the old ABC “Amerika” mini-series anymore. The world is always changing which makes the very concept itself flawed and outdated from the second you come up with it.
Xenophobia? More like competitiveness – at least for me. I’m open to any culture, and I wish I had enough resources to travel the world.
With that said, I’m an American, and I desire my country to improve and be on top. It’s no different than a salesman wanting to have the most sales in the office, or a family hoping to win the race at a picnic.
Sorry, regarding my point #1 above, just to be clear with my reference to Sony and Spider-Man, I know it’s a Japanese studio and not a Chinese one. I was just using that as an example to point out that any Asian culture — be it China or Japan — that invests in North American film will have no ability to turn North American film into their propaganda tools.
You can’t have a bigger investment than outright buying a studio itself and China isn’t anywhere near that level of investment so no need to fear that they will turn North American studio films into propaganda.
On a sidenote, I’ve always wondered why Sony doesn’t work together with Toei to turn Japanese superhero Ultraman into an international blockbuster. THAT would be a great collaboration between the two business/filmmaking cultures I’d love to see.
Relax, calm down, and go watch the movie. No country is put in a good light here. It’s all about the humans emotions, choices, suspense, and entertainment.
Maybe this was the only way to raise the money necessary to make this movie and also have “permission” to show in a country like China that controls what it “allows” its population to watch.
The dialogue change seems to represent China in a positive way.
Obviously the film makers felt that this was a small price to pay.
We all sell out one way or another … so why not for money?
Good luck collecting the Chinese box office.
when are the “worry-warts” going to learn that the world is no longer “big” and is now “small”. we do not deal with just “us”, here in america, anymore – we deal with the globe – everyone is included. if you don’t know this by now, you are already behind, and your kids are probably ahead of you, because they are already getting a steady stream of cultures on youtube, and not just the “made in the usa” programming of yesterday.
The US cut is not much different from any other country I believe. In China is 25% while other countries are something like 33%. Not much of a difference when people make it sound like Hollywood should be taking at least 50% which is not true.
Oh I also forgot that usually with co-finanacing China might actually get to keep everything made in China unlike a country that didn’t invest so there’s no real right to complain about how much of a cut when China actually invested in the movie.
America! Numero Uno!
Guess u didn’t notice the random Chinese endorsement billboards, Chinese branded computers/laptops, or the Chinese meterbonwe tshirts in transformers 3
First, an admission: I walked out halfway through “Looper” because 1) I realized that my ticket had subsidized Communist Chinese propaganda, and 2) in spite of all the critics going gaga over it, it was really a dreadful film.
Just consider: in the half film that I saw, Americans were variously depicted as venal and materialistic (prostitute/showgirl); brutal and looser-like (the legions of looper henchmen); or competent and charming (the Kansas City waitress). The single Chinese character in the half film I saw (the wife of Bruce Willis’s character) was filmed in soft focus, and portrayed as loving and devoted. In the half film that I saw, America in the future, represented by Kansas City, is portrayed as a dystopian hell hole; Communist China in the future, on the other hand, is alluded to as the center of world civilization and promise.
Is this the future of heavily financed American blockbuster films? That, in order to pass muster with the Communist Chinese censorship boards, every single damn film must include some positive reference or positive image of Communist China and the Communist Chinese? That no complex depictions of Communist Chinese (much less purely dissolute, evil, or bad depictions) will ever be tolerated? While, in the meantime, depictions of Americans and America will continue to be complex or even dystopian, evil, and dissolute (which, by the way, I support American artists’ and film studios’ freedom to do so 100%).
And about the film critics’ love-in with this dreadful movie: if I were a wild-eyed conspiracy theorist, I would suppose that the American-Communist Chinese co-production company that made the movie, had twisted quite a few arms to get such across-the-board glowing reviews. And, on a wild-eyed conspiracy theorist side note: I posted a review of “Loopers” on the New York Times movie commentary site, but the review, which expressed sentiments very similar to the views above, was never posted. Did that have something to do with “The Times” new launch of a Chinese version newspaper covering Communist China?
Frankly, probably not. It was probably just a technical glitch, and my egotistical paranoia is in full swing here. But, I do tell you one thing: if I do inadvertently find myself again watching a film that incorporates Communist Chinese propaganda, and I post reviews on “The New York Times” protesting that propaganda, and that review also does not make it into print, then I’m going to get really pissed.
@ Surprise123
That was the most schizophrenic and beautiful summary I’ve read this month. Thank you. Now we need some time to digest this, ok?
Why isn’t anyone debating about how openly the characters in the film uses hallucinogenic drugs? I mean, I too enjoy such introvert moments, but I feel shocked to find it portrayed in such a way(EVEN THOUGH the morality car brake scene).