UPDATE: Not so fast… This latest revelation will surely re-ignite the long-running
debate over whether Hollywood’s wannabe screenwriters can get ahead on their talent or just their connections. Deadline’s sharp-eyed commenters discovered from Justin Kremer’s Linked-In profile that he had been an intern at The Black List. “That’s not exactly the same thing as an over-the-transom success story,” one commenter rued. We’ve confirmed that Black List founder Franklin Leonard failed to disclose this very pertinent fact in his announcement today. Leonard just gave us this statement:
In a press release this morning announcing Justin Kremer’s recently signing with Creative Artists Agency after submitting his script to the new Black List website, I failed to mention that he had previously volunteered work to the Black List as an “intern.”
To clarify, from time to time, we put out calls for individuals to assist us with various tasks like transcribing interviews and alerting us to information about Black List scripts that comes up via the news. In exchange for such occasional assistance, we allow those individuals to call themselves interns though it is an “internship” in the loosest possible sense of the term.
Justin submitted his script without our knowledge. He paid to have his script hosted. He paid to have it read. It was read with no further information beyond its genre, as is the case with all of our screenplays. It was evaluated and included in our emails based on that evaluation and was downloaded and subsequently rated highly based on the evaluations of individuals who had no knowledge of Justin beyond his screenplay and the fact of its high scores.
I personally only became aware of the screenplay when its evaluation was published to our site.
I cannot emphasize enough that the process his script experienced was in no way different than any other submitted script. I have no tolerance for anything but a pure mathematical experience when it comes to the Black List, and we will continue to function in exactly that way.
If there was an error here, it was in my failure to include the information about our previous, tenuous relationship in the press release that announced his great success.
It is my sincere hope that this failure does not affect the view of Justin’s script. It shouldn’t. The path his script took did not and could not have been affected by his previous work. The failure here is mine in failing to mention it when celebrating his good fortune.
PREVIOUS: Well maybe these things really do work. The Black List announced today the first success story from its month-old new online pay service for unrepresented screenwriters to have their work analyzed by industry professionals. Last week, Justin Kremer, formerly an assistant at Black Bear Pictures, signed with CAA based on his screenplay McCarthy chronicling the rise of Sen. Joe McCarthy’s anti-Communist fervor. Kremer uploaded his script to the site on October 19, four days after launch, and paid for a single read from a Black List reader. When the screenplay got a high score, it was included in the site’s weekly member email spotlighting its highest rated scripts. After dozens of downloads from Black List industry members and more ratings from those who read it, McCarthy became the site’s highest-rated uploaded script.
Kremer, who attended NYU’s Tisch School of the Arts and graduated from the Dramatic Writing Conservatory at the State University of New York/Purchase, said in a statement that “the script had been completed for some time and was collecting dust in a drawer. I submitted McCarthy to the Black List site out of sheer curiosity, and entered the process with absolutely no expectations.” He describes the response as “incredible” and says that “none of this would have been possible without the Black List site”. Explained Black List founder Franklin Leonard, ”He’s a hell of a writer whose great work simply hadn’t been exposed prior to his uploading it to our site. This is, simply put, why we created it.” Since the Black List launched its pay service on October 15th, over 1,100 screenplays have been uploaded.
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Hmmm. He was an assistant at a production company. That kinda screams to me that he had connections before submitting his script. I’m sure his writing is of a high standard, but I want to see someone completely outside the biz get a deal. I still think this is a money making scam.
I don’t want to see anyone from outside the business get in.
You want to be a writer? Either be genius talent that hustles to easily get representation or get an assistant job and learn the craft while you are in the mailroom or answering phones. You aren’t entitled to live outside of LA or NY and get in the business just because. Sorry.
“You aren’t entitled to live outside of LA or NY and get in the business just because. Sorry.”
That’s the most obnoxiously arrogant, entitled, and condescending comment I’ve ever seen. If an unknown from outside NY or LA gets in, it won’t be “just because”… it will be because they’ve done something that most struggling assistants around town haven’t done — written a script that is so good, so compelling, so amazing, that it simply can’t be ignored.
And the movie business will be the better for it.
Someone’s bitter. Talent isn’t defined by geography; give me a great screenwriter living in Boise over some hack shilling Transformer 16 anyday.
no bitterness here. just tired of this notion that outsiders think they should be selling screenplays. If you are a genius epic talent, yes, by all means. If you are not, then get in the business and give yourself a shot to learn.
Dear ok: I think you are probably not ok. break out of your cubicle once in a while and realize your petty rules of the game are all in your head. now where’s my sandwich?
also getting an assistant job isn’t the easiest in the world, especially if you’re from outside the industry. Even if you get the UTA list it seems like you need to know somebody to get your resume read or worse you need assistant experience to get the job. I’m beyond qualified for an assistant job, but I can’t get anyone to hire me for some reason. also you’d never learn the craft being in the mailroom or as an assistant…you’d learn the industry. you learn the craft, by reading scripts (yes an assistant probably does coverage), writing, and watching films/tv not by sorting the mail and bringing coffee to the boss.
I’l pass on any more scripts written by people whose sole life experience is via the hollywood mailroom.
nearly every film produced (good or bad) has a former assistant/mailroom worker onboard to write at one point or another. example: Michael Arndt–the hottest writer in the biz right now. Former assistant to Matthew Broderick.
And stop crying if you can’t get an asst job. It takes time–and I’m glad it does. Weeds out the ppl who don’t want it badly enough.
Read Mailroom. Ron Meyer, current mogul, worked for free for years to get a shot as an asst. What makes some of you feel so entitled that you shouldn’t pay your dues in such a competitive business?
Are you kidding? I was discovered out of nowhere, like most writers I know. Mailrooms are for agents and writers who don’t have the stones to write a spec in Des Moines or Chicago or New York, and know they’re talented enough to get discovered.
This is really funny – there are more communists in Hollywood today than in the 1950s – bring back “THE LIST”.
Simple guide to start-up success: First take the shots, THEN draw the bulls eye!
It’s not a scam — I graduated from the same writing program as Justin last spring. And good luck getting a deal without any connections lol, it just doesn’t happen. Not how it works.
Agreed. They had to come out of the gate screaming; I saw this coming. They, for sure, had to have a sale quicker than later.
Folks, quit your bitching about connections and this and that.
If the script sucked nobody would be interested.
Stop hating on talent — and stop hating on people who had the balls to move to LA and not give up two weeks after film school graduation.
If you’re on here moaning, you suck. End of story. Stop writing and just watch my show instead.
if anyone thinks hollywood only goes for talent and the best written scripts, then they definitely live outside of the Industry…….
AMAZING. what a democratic process without the idiotic nepotistic filters that most of Hollywood still retains!
For this: nepotism is the father of Hollywood and family connections is the mother…there willnever be anything else…this kid got “his” because of his connections and that’s that…he willprobably end up being one of the executive producers so he can make enough money off this to keep him for the rest of his life even if he never writes again…Hollywood is still a small town of very few and will remain that way as long as people believe they cannot get anywhere here…you can but you have to “do it yourself”, something no one wants to do.
I uploaded script for 25 but I’m too broke to buy reader credits, can you guys just search for it and explore the scripts.
This is truly a great story. Even though he was an assistant elsewhere, it doesn’t mean that his “connections” got him a deal. I’m sure an agency would rather a client with a strong script than someone who has some connections. In today’s economy you have to do whatever possible to get your name out there, and this site seems to be a great opportunity for young writers, such as Mr. Kremer.
No you’re wrong as an assistant you have access to hundreds of scripts and can hone your craft. Trust me when people know you they’re less likely to read your script because they don’t want a peer to get ahead. This site is cool and Franklin is smart also seems like a good guy.
Now all we have to do is get the script to the studio head directly and we can kiss these agencies goodbye.
hilarious, you don’t have the slightest clue what writers do to earn a living. hint: they don’t write original screenplays.
Total scam.
Good luck to Justin. May he enjoy his first round of studio and producer meetings where they try to convince him that McCARTHY should be made as a micro-budget found footage film in a single location.
His connections got him the gig…that’s it. Don’t kid yourself that he suddenly “got read” and someone “discovered” him. Doesn’t mean he’s not a good writer but HE GOT IT BECAUSE OF HIS CONNECTIONS!!! If you look father in you’ll probably find he’s the son of someone who is also in the biz… In this world, if you want something, you do it yourself or you don’t get it…
Steven, which one is it: “his connections got him the gig”…”he’s the sone of someone in the biz”, or “you do it yourself or your don’t get it”?
Your post makes no sense, probably like your latest screenplay…
Not to disparage the skill of the Mr. Kremer, but this website is nothing more than an attempt at Monetizing the Brand; with 1100 uploaded scripts five weeks, I’d say it is a rather successful attempt.
100% agreed. As someone else said, you want to succeed in Hollywood? Move there, make connections and work hard. There is no shortcut and no easy fee you can pay to jump to the head of the line.
absolutely correct. one in a million have the pure talent to jump the line. everybody else needs to do as you wrote perfectly, “move there, make connects, work hard.” period.
No one has sold a script guys, someone got a rep. He would have got repped anyway if he’d made an effort. It’s a money taking slot machine that exploits the vulnerable.
it’s great for Justin Kremer . . . props to him. good luck with this project and his career.
but this story almost suggests the opposite of what it’s intended . . so 1 script sold over 1000 submissions? this is not a surprise. everyone knows the lottery odds.
question is – is it easier to submit a script to the blacklist? then submit something through whatever contacts he has at BlackBear?
he could have asked his bosses at Black Bear to read his script . . . then they could have read it and suggested it to a few agents.
if not, he could have submitted to CAA himself with some strategic calls . . .
what would have happened?
nothing, obviously.
all this “story” shows is that this industry is completely broken.
and the only way to set up projects is to DO it yourself and not try to get an agent via some process that is irrevocably broken.
again, happy for this kid and I don’t want my comment to detract from his success . . .
This is exciting! Kudos to Justin and Franklin!
Okay, I was ready to say what a bunch of sour grapes these commenters are, but then…
A view of the writer’s LinkedIn profile reveals he is an Intern at the Black List. Huh? After he got repped? Is he a reader for The Black List? Doesn’t mean the guy isn’t talented or that the script is undeserving, but this relationship should be disclosed and explained in this sort of “lucky discovery” article.
It means he had a previous contact, neither more nor less. The tale of the unknown writer who got repped with his first script is crap. The Black List is now a successful scam that takes advantage of the dreams of thousands of writers. And please, don’t let me talk about that scam artist called Carson Reeves…
I’m happy for Justin, but according to his LinkedIn (http://goo.gl/B7UD4) he’s currently an intern… at The Black List. Not exactly the same thing as an over-the-transom success story.
Good for him. But I read this script and it was eh at best.
RAAAAARRRRGH!!!
I’m an angst-ridden, bitter screenwriter! I must say as many negative things about this as possible because it didn’t happen to ME!!!
Nobody else finds this ironic? A script about McCarthy gets noticed on the Blacklist? You can’t even make it up.
Wait a minute!! Hold everything!! Go back and read the post. This guy did not sell a script, he got an agent (probably a junior agent) at a fading agency. So – out of 1,100 scripts uploaded THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE SALE, NOT ONE OPTION, NOT ONE PITCH SOLD BECAUSE OF, and only one dude even got an agent?? If you take 1100 registered scripts at random there would probably be three or four scripts that got repped. So the site is a big bust.
Struggling wannabe writers are paying Franklin over 25k a month to have a website. It should be a free service, or the industry should pay. But not wannabe writers. Anything that takes money from wannabe writers is a scam.
Thank you!! I felt the exact same way when tracking boards (i.e. tracking-board.com and trackingb.com) became for-pay membership sites. It’s all the same: selling “insider access” to Hollywood information and players.
Agree. Trackingboard, Scriptshadow, The Black List… The same crap. Different names.
The business of getting into the business is a bigger business than the business.
Oh, my, God.
The responses to this are ridiculous. First, the script didn’t sell, so a number of you missed that. Second, you can’t predetermine who will read it once you upload, so any “connections” don’t matter. Third, the site has only been up a month, and one person has already signed. Give it some time before you declare it a bust or a success.
According to LinkedIn, the writer is an intern at The Black List. Amazing discovery. Good luck anyway.
This is obviously a scam, you’d think Franklin would’ve been more clever than to have the first success from the site be so obviously corrupt. So sad innocent people are giving him their money.
The Black List does not do “blind reviews.” The names of writers are on the submitted spec scripts. So Justin the Intern’s name was there for everyone to see. And considering his connections, is it that much of a stretch to assume his name wasn’t recognized and his script was given not just a favorable review, but a look-see to CAA?
I’ve heard a number of spec scripts who are truly OUTSIDE of the system complain about the reviewing going on at The Black List. Some “reviews” are only 3-5 sentences long. They don’t concern the entire script. And some reviews contain info that is totally off-base, making people wonder if the script was even read at all (and that includes the first few pages).
The Black List has made a lot of money by promising a fair read and a fair deal. But it’s shady that CAA signed one of their interns and that The Black List tried to cover up that fact. You can’t unring a bell!
“Some “reviews” are only 3-5 sentences long. They don’t concern the entire script. And some reviews contain info that is totally off-base, making people wonder if the script was even read at all (and that includes the first few pages).”
The Black List was looking for readers awhile ago, paying between I believe $25-35/script. When it takes a good 2 hours to read a script (3 if it’s really bad) and another 2-3 to write a decent coverage, is it any wonder the reviews are coming back like that, seeing they pay their readers next to nothing.
I certainly wouldn’t put a lot of effort into it, getting under minimum wage.
I had a hot script I posted to The Black List. It did not get a high score. Franklin is so busy talking up his transparency, that he doesn’t see that his site is stealing money from people. Your readers don’t know how to read, that’s why they’re failed writers, Franklin. They burn through the script and say a couple nice things about even the worst ones, to encourage you to pay for more and more reads, and get more hosting time. You give writers a 6 or 7 but say flattering things about how it can be a great studio project, and they’ll fork over more money…for another 6.
Which is fine if the script deserves a 6. But a WME or CAA 9 is going to be a Black List 6 more often than 9. Readers pass on great scripts every day.
Not surprised he’s an intern. We’re talking about a website/service that uses this in its copy: “Over 200 scripts that have appeared on the annual Black List of most liked unproduced scripts have been produced and released for the domestic market, making over $16BN in worldwide box office and earning 148 Academy Award-nominations and 25 victories, including two of the last four best pictures (THE KING’S SPEECH and SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE) and five of the last ten screenwriting Oscars. Among The Black List projects part of awards contention this year include ARGO, DJANGO UNCHAINED, THE IMPOSSIBLE, LOOPER, and HOPE SPRINGS.”
Of course, the truth is that their successes had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with their appearances on the black list as in each case, they were already cast up, financed, and moving forward when they “appeared.” The Black List itself was always going to be monetized and currently is just another tool for agents and managers to get unsold scripts noticed, jockeying for position with those who contribute to the list just like the Weinstein Company or Warners during awards season. It is hardly what it attempts to sell itself as, but hey, good on them. A sucker’s born every minute.
Taking credit for the King’s Speech is disingenuous at the least. Be upfront and stop icing the cake.
How in the heck was DJANGO UNCHAINED on the Black List??? It’s Tarantino. Weinstein makes all of his films (co-financing and/or distributing with studios).
Makes no sense.
Nothing in this scam makes sense…