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Nikki Finke reported in real time on Karl Rove questioning Fox News’ own judgment last night after the network called Ohio for Barack Obama. It was fascinating TV: live, awkward and, in the end, humiliating.
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You say humiliating, I say exhilarating.
That is what we consider a tantrum nowadays? At no point did he become irrational. He may have been arguing a moot point but I would hardly say that he threw a tantrum.
Aw, I was hoping for arm waving and slobber! He was just being his disciplined old self: “it’s about public perception” (not the “science”). Which is totally appropriate for a propaganda outlet. It was confusing to him that they were actually reporting facts that night.
I have been hearing such hype about the “meltdown” that I had to watch the video clip, and darn it all, I was hoping for a genuine hissy fit too. But I think you nailed it Tim……it was confusing to the “king maker” that they were reporting facts.
That’s a great observation. You are right on point.
I don’t know if I call that a meltdown…
And I really hate that guy.
He sounded like a kid on the schoolyard who was yelling that they took the ball home too soon.
Yeah, Karl had millions of dollars riding on this campaign and didn’t want to throw in the towel so quickly.
This was completely embarrassing. If you switched between all the broadcast networks and the cable networks, they were reporting Obama’s victory, while FOX news was in total denial, walking back stage to question their staff. Such a train wreck, but just goes to show what a terrible news channel it is.
I didn’t think Rove was that bad. He had bad numbers from a bad strategy that he probably helped develop (hello confirmation bias). He is like, a billion years old. The media/polling realities that existed in 2000 are completely out of date. Back then, Cell phones were non-prevalent, networks/newspapers were the main source of info, and the internet was just really prevalent. Polling was very accurate.
Now? Not so much. Especially among a huge democratic base, the young. Young people don’t answer the phone (cell only) for numbers they don’t recognize. They don’t take part in polls online, certainly not on the network news or newspaper sites THEY DON’T VISIT.
Rove realized how wrong he was, and got flustered. But I didn’t think he was that bad, really. And I hate him.
Agreed. I’m no Rove fan, either, but he didn’t actually embarrass himself last night — he was just hoping against hope that his guy would triumph. (And the point is well taken: Rove’s era of politics is long since over; he’s as inconsequential and dated as a Rubik’s Cube.)
It is a real meltdown, an embarrasment, and so typical of Republican stubbornness and delusion. Rove (and others) had their own erroneous poll numbers so engrained in their minds that they cannot see the truth when it’s right in front of them. So sad. And certainly doesn’t bode well for FOX News.
I just wanted him get up and yell “Turn Those Machines Back On!”
Love it, take a bow.
Brilliant
Hardly “drama”.
Maybe Karl needs to just get a subscription to Nate Silver’s blog to get real numbers. He’s been a big whiffer since 2006 when he blew the control of Congress. It’s Death of a Pundit time for Karl since it’s obvious the game has moved beyond his era of being Bush’s Brain.
“Drama?”
“Awkward?”
“Humiliating?”
What the hell are you smoking. That was a boring, valid disagreement. Yawn.
Rove admonishing Fox News anchors not to prematurely call victory? Now that’s funny. Don’t recall him singing the same tune twelve years ago in Florida.
Not as bad as Chirs Matthews saying he was glad Superstorm Sandy hit and the right time.
He held it together pretty well for someone who expected all those Romney owned voting machines to lean the election toward the Republicans. I kid.
Comedy if nothing else…
Not a Rove fan at all, but I don’t see what the issue is. He wanted to be sure before they called the state for someone. And that’s something to jump on a guy for? Because he wanted to make sure all the facts were in before reporting something?
The humor, and humiliation, is supposed to stem from someone who keeps saying all the facts aren’t in, when everyone else knows all the facts are already in. Like someone in the electric chair, who keeps saying, “But the jury hasn’t returned its verdict yet!” Yes, they have.
LOL. Rove was just following his marching orders from the Koch Brothers.
Imagine the end of Trading Places, and instead of the Duke Brothers you have the Koch Brothers, they’re screaming “NO!! We demand a recount!”
As Tracy Jordan (Tracy Morgan) says in the “30 Rock” pilot:
“All of them. Jack Donaghy, General Electric, George Bush,
Karl Robe.”
How/why it was humiliating? Well, for starters, all other news networks were reporting actual “news” of a projected Obama Ohio victory based on well established and generally reliable scientific methods, while the Fox anchors were forced to challenge their own election analysts based on Karl’s uninformed partisan biases. As for the awkwardness … that’s a direct quote of Ms. Kelly at the start of her minute-of-dead-air time march through the Fox studio labyrinth prior to invading the Fox analysts in their lair. Karl is obviously used to always getting his way and winning every argument, apparently even with reality? To be fair it was the email Chris Wallace purportedly received from the Romney campaign objecting to the Ohio call that set things in motion. Curious that none of the other networks reported being contacted
It is understandable for Rove to be hesitant to call the election so quickly; after all he was responsible for spending millions of dollars in super pac funds. I am sure that those folks who wrote million dollar checks were wondering how Mr. Rove could be in control of so many rescources and yet not even produce a result that was a “Squeaker”. Given the fact of the political tail wind of a poor economy, political polarization, obstructionism, one would think that the defeat of President Obama would be a cake walk. Given those two ideas, I am sure, Mr. Rove could not come to grips with trying to explain how his part in the campaign was so ineffective.
This was almost as good as Chris Matthews counting the libs lucky stars that Sandy hit. Almost.
The best words came from Megyn Kelly as she asked Rove:
“Is this just math that you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?”
“I believe this piece of footage will, unlike us, live forever,” said Jon Stewart of the confrontation. Stewart also suggested that the question Megyn Kelly asked Rove
“Is this just math that you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?”
– would make a better slogan for Fox News than their current one, “Fair and Balanced.”
Not exactly a meltdown but then Rove never shows true emotion, he’s not capable. He’s all about conspiring,calculating & fund raising from his conservative friends with deep pockets. And, these friends are not happy campers at this point. You lost, you will always lose. Give it up or maybe resurrect the Confederate party.
Watching Faux News on election night was like watching that guy on Iraq TV in 2003: “there No American tanks here, NONE!” he said, even as Abrams tanks were coming up the street behind his studio.
Fox News is and always has been a slimey tool for the likes of
Butt Mouth Rove and Tush Mouth Limbough.