“A lot of us have our head up our asses,” Fox’s Kevin Reilly said today about TV executives during the Hollywood Radio & Television Society’s “The State of Broadcast” luncheon. The Fox Entertainment chairman also admitted during the panel discussion featuring Chernin Entertainment TV president Katherine Pope, UTA founding partner Peter Benedek and attorney Ken Ziffren of Ziffren Brittenham that he wished NBC’s The Voice “never happened”. “I don’t particularly like the show”, he said of the rival to his network’s American Idol. “I think Idol will have a long and graceful descent into maturity. It would have had a longer one if that show hadn’t came along. We’re not the only game in town now.”
Reilly, who can be unfiltered and entertaining at such events, dominated the session at the Hyatt Regency Century Plaza. The “head up our asses” comment came during a discussion about the effects of new services and platforms on the industry. “We’re looking too myopically at the business,” he said, adding that networks “are too obsessed with our competition with each other and not the consumer.” He agreed with the other panelists that there are “radical shifts in consumer behavior and how they are watching,” adding that “on any given night we’re speaking to only 30% of the audience.” Reilly hinted that as a result things might be different at this year’s upfronts. “I’ve been talking about year-round development,” he said. “It’s not blowing up the business. It’s trying to institutionalize what we can do better.”
Earlier, Reilly joked that he agreed with controversial comments by Two And A Half Men’s Angus T. Jones that fans of the CBS show shouldn’t watch it. “I think people should stop watching it,” Reilly said to laughs from the crowd.
The Fox chief was also in the zone at last fall’s HRTS network chiefs luncheon, with such zingers as “Can somebody kill NCIS?” in reference to the ratings strength of the decade-old CBS drama series.
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Hope the laughing helps him. FOX is more dire then ABC. X-Factor & Tuesday night down double digits, Monday is dull and Friday is weak.
but isn’t Fox leading in ratings for key demographics though?
No, it’s not.
Not only that it is not leading, it is in the 4th place, down 29% from last season – the steepest decline of all networks. Season to date the network averages are:
1.NBC (3.2)
2.CBS (2.8)
3.ABC (2.6)
4.FOX (2.5)
Britney/Demo combo didn’t work out for X-Factor which is down a whole rating point from last year, Glee just hit a series low of 2.1, New Girl is also down in the low 2s territory, The Mob Doctor is a bigger flop than Lone Star… They still have Idol and the Kevin Bacon drama coming up, but it’s not looking good…
He doesn’t like The Voice because it has infinitely better talent on it since they don’t restrict by age or sexual preference like Idol. People don’t like it when you expose their biases, especially when the unbiased folks become more successful than you.
The production on both shows is enough to make you want to barf after a few minutes of watching though. In that sense, The Voice learned nothing from Idol.
Last spring looking at all the nets pilots – proposed and greenlit – I was struck at how boring FOX’s lineup was. It’s not like they passed on good stuff, there was no good stuff for them to pick up. Just a bunch of tired concepts, and the whole serial killer thing is going to fizzle, except maybe A&E’s Psycho reboot/prequel/whatever that is, which at least has a cool cast.
FOX has got to do more exciting development. Viewers are comparing them to the likes of The Walking Dead and American Horror Story. Nobody cares whether something is on broadcast or cable, so the nets don’t get credit for being more boring due to the FCC breathing down their necks.
Reilly, the man with the vision to bring us Alcatraz, Lone Star, Dinosaurs on Parade or whatever the heck it was called? The one who had the most watched show IN THE WORLD on his network and didn’t negotiate its return, finally replacing it with Mob Doctor? That Reilly?
A lot? I’d say ALL OF THEM!
Or, perhaps, he meant that a lot of them have their heads up their asses, while the others have their heads up someone else’s ass.
It also would be nice to get execs who actually read the scripts. These guys refuse to read and then are shocked at how bad these projects are. Just buying the name, when the audience could careless.
Excellent point, except that you’re wrong. Heads of programming read every pilot script except the crap already rejected by their staffs. (That is what they get paid to do, after all) The fact that they DO read the scripts actually points to a more troubling problem: how is it a script can be read and green-lit to pilot, but when the pilot is finished the network notes often relate to major script/charqcter problems?
I think the point is that pitches, new projects, and writing/staff jobs are handed out based mostly on CREDITS and not what’s on the written page. And that’s why there are so few fresh voices in US television. The Execs are all too busy covering their asses (because they need too). The need to CYA has really hurt US Network TV. Cable and foreign TV take chances on concept and talent, and that’s why it’s fresh.
Moving to year-round development is actually a great idea. And that’s why it won’t happen.
Just like in sports, what’s on paper doesn’t always work when actually put in play. Some football teams look great on paper at the beginning of a season, only to end up with a 4-12 record. Same can happen from paper to production for a TV pilot.
Fox’s fall was almost a complete swing and a miss. Mob Doctor was a disaster anyone could see coming. Ben & Kate and Mindy Project are both failures. New Girl is way down from last fall because of poor scheduling decisions. X Factor has no buzz.
Yet he’s keeping X Factor and Glee on the Air despite them being down double digits. His head must be in the clouds.
Everyone has moved on from the Glee phenom. Time to put that show to rest. As for X-Factor, it just proves that Simon wasn’t the only reason AI succeeded, as he’s wont to believe.
American Idol wasn’t going to have a long, graceful descent into maturity. It’s already heading for obscurity. They think the only way they’ll keep viewers is by changing the judges??? How about the talent? And the way the show tallies its votes? Because the “Cute White Guy With A Guitar” routine got old four years ago. And considering NONE of them (with the exception of this last one) has had much of a career once they won, should tell the execs something.
While I believe the producers are actually picking who stays and goes, if we’re going to try to pretend that “voting counts”, put a limit on how often someone can vote for a contestant. The over-16 crowd have better things to do than sit at their phone and text/call 300 times in a night for our favorites…
Nyuk it up Kevin as your shows are getting trounced by The Voice and such and you seriously believe AI and X-Factor have long term futures ahead? What kind of bong have you been drinking and smoking? You worked wonders at NBC but now you’re crippling FOX with your inane ideas for programming. I also suggest canceling Mob Doctor and yet you went on and renewed The Mindy Project? Genius…NOT!!!
Reilly seems like a perceptive guy stuck in a business built for the 1990s…Montgomery Ward, Tower Records and the Broadcast Networks–just a few of the companies that don’t seem to effectively change with the times…
I can’t even jump down FOX’s throat for this one. Every single one of the big four networks brought in piles of shit for their schedules this season. There seems to be a huge void of writing talent in the television industry or maybe it’s programming heads looking in the wrong places. No one has found a solid new show to add to their schedule as of yet. We’ll see what the midseason brings, but for me, Malibu Country is about the closest thing I’ve seen to being a reliable source of watch worthy new tv programming this fall, and even its on shaky ground at times with its inconsistency(although the birthday car present vs the bicycle episode was hilarious). Still, it shouldn’t be that difficult for an exec to tell whether or not a pilot that they have just watched or a script they have just read moves them in such a way as to overwhelm them with excitement for it as a future series on the network.
This statement right here:
“…Malibu Country is about the closest thing I’ve seen to being a reliable source of watch worthy new tv programming this fall…”
Just nullified any opinion you have on this forum. Please step away from the podium, and head down the aisle to your seat in the back row of the mezzanine where our ushers will promptly duct-tape your mouth closed and brand you with a big red “S.”
My gosh Gail Berman at FBC was talking about year round development. And before that someone else was at another network. It hasn’t happened yet because they haven’t really put the advertising dollars behind it. When they have — it’s worked. When it’s just burn-off or cheaper imported series – the savy viewing public can tell.
And if he doesn’t get his head out of his own ass, he’s going to be looking for another job soon. Fox’s overall ratings are horrendous this year.
Reilly is a lot better at the game than this past season would indicate. Fox has a lot of upside going into the new AI season.
Kevin Reilly is great. His comments are always hilarious and spot on. His observation concerning “radical shifts in consumer behavior and how they are watching,” – YEP. The networks STILL are worrying about each other so much and not their consumers many of who are coming of age and aren’t even aware what a NBC, ABC or Fox is. They know XBox and Netflix! Kill NCIS? How about pelt the next network executive who talks about year-round development. Gail Berman talked about it, previous folks talked about it. It doesn’t work because to truly, truly do it you need two teams who can focus on breaking away from the calendar AND the ad community behind you. Still confused why no one tries harder in the summer especially during a recession when people are doing — less during the summer. Throw some billboards up. Advertise. Summer is not dead anymore. That’s 1980s/90s thinking.